Whats ur problem with toyota bro?i noticed ur constant post being excessively critical of them.theres so many choices out there if they sell it at the wrong price. Why bother keep screaming out "i was right all along!" ??

It gets really annoying when u find it really hard to find decent conversation on cars in FnF when it seems like all this tamak pricing and korea vs japan mentality dominates almost EVERY thread. Excessive pricing is nothing new in this country. Why keep screaming about it here?

The logic of business is simple. MAXIMIZING profits. U know anyone who does business for minumum profit?im sure these MNC companies are not stupid.sell it too high,consumers run to ur competitors.sell it to low, u might get smaller return.its all about finding that balance.


About the prius c, It should be fine if its within 5-7k of the insight coming with a 1.5 engine and a more established hybrid system.anything more than that would be suicide.

This post has been edited by aztechx: Jan 8 2012, 10:47 AM

i do see your point. But think about it this way, for me the hybrid line ups like the prius, prius c and any upcoming hybrids are considered as a 'premium product'. The technology and probably the wow factor might be the reason why the Prius was initially priced at almost 200k before the tax exemption?isnt that too much for an altis-civic class of vehicle?googling how the prices are in the US toyota website, i noticed that the prius is priced between USD24-28k while the highest spec corolla 1.8 is only USD17k. So i think we are seeing about the same differences here.

about the profit part,i couldnt care less.im just explaining to you based on logic why a company wont just reduce prices.to put it simply, imagine that you have to sell 100 curry puffs in a day. Sell it at RM1 or RM2 per piece, u still end up selling 100 curry puffs. This is why i mentioned from the companies point of view why they maximize profits in such way, and yes, we as consumers might suffer. But, you cant ask people to stop buying the curry puffs when everywhere else, the curry puffs are selling at the same price!ill refer to the insight here, priced at about 100k compared to the Prius C which might sell at probably 105-110k no?Does that mean everyone else is cutting throat here?

A more viable option if we were to complain about the car prices being excessive,is to stop buying cars all together unless we are opting for a national car which i honestly feel is the few cars available selling at a 'reasonable' price. The nature of our countries automotive industry is already sick enough which im sure alot of us would agree. The tax structure is something im most curious to understand as up till now, i do not get why the prius is selling at 127k in langkawi but about 140k here. and how naza could enjoy the tax structure of a national car. My point is that I feel the 'rapist' here are the government and not the automotive industry players. but we'll leave that for another discussion.

About the Prius c, it will probably be a vios-city like vehicle, the way the current prius is an altis-civic-like vehicle. Theres no way we will see UMW price the Prius c too close to the vios, and they cant price it too close to the current Prius as well. which is why would find the price range of 100-110k max acceptable. BUT, should they price it below 100k, im sure i wont be complaining.
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plastic cover also want to make noise aa.pisses me off reading this kinds of arguments especially when the 'good guy' starts sputtering things he was criticizing from the start.

IMHO,the Prius is damn worth the extra 40k but saying so, that doesnt make insight buyer stupid or anything. at the point of buying maybe they want a hybrid and insight offered the cheapest price so why not?

Back to the topic which is the prius c, if news on the reduced price is true than it will definitely be a game changer. its a well known fact that the HSD system is superior to the IMA in terms of fuel efficiency. and i just dont see why anyone would go for the insight after this unless if they are a honda fan (which i feel theres nothing wrong with it) or love the design of the insight. i keep seeing people commenting on blind loyalty to the brand.and i ask why not?different people different taste different opinion laa..u cant scold an old man who loved his wira so much he decided to get a persona even when he could afford a vios/city/fiesta/whatever?

p/s:dont get me started on the ECO mode feeling lack of power. no amounts of face palm can help with that one.

when you buy either hybrids, insight or prius, of course fuel economy is the highlight,but you cant really use the fuel savings as a gauge on how much u save on the cost of the car. I have friends who question if buying a hybrid is worth it since they did similar calculations to yours and that the return you get from fuel saving can never justify the price of the car.

My opinion is that these hybrids are considered 'premium' products for now and that explains the 'premium' price u have to pay. which is why i dont quite agree when you compare the 40k difference solely on the fuel savings..

Buy a hybrid if you want to enjoy the quietness and the fact that ure doing the world a favour 'eco' wise, enjoying yourself knowing how much fuel you are saving over a conventional car. plastic rims, glass rims, it doesnt matter does it?and cmon, im sure you're matured enough to leave the name-calling out of your post at least?

Today i somehow learnt that loooooongggg posts with various technical jargons doesnt necessariy translates to a good post..

HSD = Part hybrid...im confused..

Heard that the c will be coming in 7 colors?

Cheras, subang and section 19 pj has units so far..not sure about others though

Some reviews on the prius c

Review prius c

'c' ing is believing

Kinda like the title of the second one.review so far seems good.

My verdict is to test drive the car..ull be surprised by how the screens and displays are stunning enuff to take ur mind of the fugly aircond buttons panel for a bit..saving fuel cud never have been more fun to be honest..

Either way, i guess there will be pros and cons for both the prius and the insight..Toyota as usual goes for the more conservative design in the prius c, which however is still slightly better than their other models in their line ups i feel..

Is the DVD-avn option available For the prius?i thought the prius comes with a default screen with no gps option?

I actually find that 'whirring' sound kinda cool..sort of
Gives the car a more 'electric' feel..

So far ive been reading good reviews online..none being over critical on the interior at all.makes me wonder are we malaysians a class above everyone else or what?