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Prius C, coming to Malaysia
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ckk125
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Feb 17 2012, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Feb 17 2012, 11:12 PM) i did give you the option of driving one for at least 5000km. Have you driven one to understand how the ECO mode affect the car? Talk is cheap, everyone know ECO mode is to save petrol but I doubt seriously everyone can live driving ECO mode all the time on the Prius and CT200h, keep in mind both uses the 1.8 engine, imagine P C running a 1.5 engine, that's severely underpower. Don't believe me, go test before booking. haha..ive been driving prius 1.8, eco mode. no problem
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ckk125
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Feb 18 2012, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Feb 18 2012, 12:59 AM) haha....Insight is the best...haha ask both Insight and Prius turn ON the engine and sit inside and park under hot sun....see which car driver will be COOKED!! this result is : insight =  prius =  watchout ok, honda insight can match altis 2.0 dual vvti. anyway, i dont have anything against hybrids, as my family has one, but after reading some ridiculous comments, must say something lo. both are very good cars, catered for different segments, but to say prius on eco mode no power? obviously havent drive beyond 10 km lah floor the pedal when u need it and the power will still b there.
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ckk125
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Feb 18 2012, 07:37 AM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 02:10 AM) Sorry can't challenge the Prius 'hotness'... *Kerinchi link [attachmentid=2690364] the plastic rim cover covers an alloy rim. http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-iii-2010-p...eel-covers.html it is there for aerodynamic purpose.. just like your low rear roof. that prius on fire cuz it was due to some wiring fault done at some accessory shop. bro infinitium's insight headlamps was also on fire, if any of you forgotten. again, i have nothing against insight. almost bought one like u, but the rear as well as the ridiculous service schedule + price is not suitable for me. This post has been edited by ckk125: Feb 18 2012, 07:41 AM
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ckk125
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Feb 18 2012, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 08:17 PM) Like a child's answer, as if you got data on ALL Insight crashes ever... and also, shameless for trying to use a heart attack incident to bash Prius...the driver is part of our Prius club member... so please, show some respect to the dead... one who is matured enough should never bring up accidents to bash other cars, especially those that involves the loss of life bash also respect la, a life was lost. by commenting on those who has passed on, what can one gain? another leaf in the dashboard? This post has been edited by ckk125: Feb 18 2012, 09:03 PM
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ckk125
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Feb 21 2012, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 01:24 PM) The Dashboard is so so so boring... bet myvi dash is nicer Added on February 21, 2012, 1:36 pmAgree... but there is a downside to this technology... you see By doing this the car is 100% depending on the nimh battery pack and the car cannot move without it as when the time the priusC nimh cell die the compressor and water pump cannot run... your car engine will over heat... Insight is called parallel hybrid and it rely on independent power source... meaning the Insight nimh battery only assist nothing more.. (hence called IMA) when the nimh pack die/expired the car can drive like normal and uses normal starter to start the car... the car will run like normal 1.3l car... until you get the pack replace... this is much fool proof... and in hard time where no $$$ change nimh pack can rely on petrol at the mean time... dont tell me prius NIMH can last lifetime... no battery can last a lifetime it is a matter of time... and still wondering why UMW-T still give only 3 years battery warranty??? u joking or wat? the engine will charge the battery once it is flat and it has its own 12V battery to start the engine. This post has been edited by ckk125: Feb 21 2012, 05:29 PM
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ckk125
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Feb 21 2012, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 05:37 PM) Read nicely yes can start provided the NIMH pack still can charge (lifespan) but if exhausted all electrical system will eventually fail... like Water pump that rely on 200v battery... there are 2 batteries, the nimh and the regular 12v. the 12v can start the engine in the event of nimh kaput. engine powers the electric motor, which in turn will charge the battery. there are 2 electric motors on the prius. the hybrid system will never allow the battery to reach 0, most of the time will have 2 bars left before engine will kick in to charge it up again. QUOTE MG1 and MG2
MG1 (motor generator 1): generates electrical power. MG1 recharges the EV battery and supplies electrical power to drive MG2. In addition, by regulating the amount of electrical power generated (thus varying MG1's internal resistance and rpm), MG1 effectively controls the transaxle's continuously variable transmission. MG1 also serves as the engine starter.[7] MG2 (motor generator 2): drives the vehicle. MG2 and the engine work together to drive the wheels. The addition of MG2's strong torque characteristics help achieve excellent dynamic performance, including smooth start-off and acceleration. During regenerative braking, MG2 converts kinetic energy into electrical energy, which is then stored in the EV battery.[7] toyota aint stupid This post has been edited by ckk125: Feb 21 2012, 05:53 PM
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ckk125
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Feb 21 2012, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 21 2012, 06:46 PM) amazing explanation, suddenly toyota become part hybrid and honda IMA is acterly full hybrid.  but due to toyota salesman, the term is switched around.. he is legendary man...
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ckk125
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Feb 21 2012, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 21 2012, 09:11 PM) Bro, i think he forget that his hybrid still got the Toyota atkinson engine attach on to the hybrid (Same as Honda or any hybrid).. So would be double up whammy if really happens... By the way.. How much the battery cost ah?  Beside the Toyota atkinson engine maintenance? Hybrid is good at Japan coz they usually have tax rebate for eco friendly, 5 years cycle of scrap & upgrade their cars (If not where u get the half-cut so many?), but here how long normally people will change their cars? That why Japs dont care about the battery, as at the time the battery died the car already scrap and in someone chop shop already... honda malaysia's 5k service is hurting them. the engine has 8 spark plugs, vs prius' 4. insight's maintenance is almost twice of prius. u gotta love honda malaysia. elsewhere, it would have been on par.
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ckk125
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Feb 24 2012, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Feb 24 2012, 02:08 AM) just went to showroom saw the prius C....the interior is really ugly with the advance meter  but the facelift prius really impress me, the front part is sooo nice :thumb: but the rim...aiyo...with alloy rim, why still but a ulgy rim cover!!!  aerodynamic purpose ma..
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ckk125
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Feb 24 2012, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 24 2012, 09:19 AM) 'Toyota attracts an older crowd'... Oldman choose Camry. Younger generation likes hybrid and of course they will drive slow (till end up at the barrier).  Added on February 24, 2012, 9:22 amYeah. Even if they wanna cost down, at least they could reuse Vios or Altis or Yaris dashboard.  if anything, insight's interior aint too good to start with. the door for one is worse than honda city, not to mention the driver armrest, which is a joke.
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ckk125
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Feb 24 2012, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 24 2012, 10:18 AM) FULL HYBRID kuasa to wife I take FULL ELECTRIC can zap flies.... haha..before u go any further, tnb tariff will be up soon. only in malaysia, EV is not the way to go. petrol is cheaper over here than electricity.
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ckk125
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Feb 24 2012, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 24 2012, 10:45 AM) SAD cause TNB uses fossil fuel also..... but I can get free electricity @ office  company pay muahaha (EVIL LAUGH!!!) haha..wait till they watch u charge your car for 8 hours. dont forget, EV cars have 2 methods of charging. the house charging takes a loooooooongg time.
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ckk125
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Mar 4 2012, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(wailup @ Mar 4 2012, 05:31 PM) Dun need 4 months. The seconds I'm sitting inside with that price tag, it's a no no already. Toyota should have consider the design. Viva with hard plastic everywhere is ok becoz of the price tag. 100k for that. Macam not worth already. Sorry for Prius C fan. Just my 2 cents. Dun bombard me ya. Kekeke vios, city, and insight doesnt have soft plastics if IIRC. even the prius uses hard plastic.
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ckk125
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Mar 4 2012, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Mar 4 2012, 07:59 PM) I sit in one yesterday. The fabric and dashboard is worst than Vios. The colour scheme is totally off the chart. how is it worse? the vios also uses plastic dash isnt it? fabric i und la...cuz vios leather seats ma..but dashboard and door panel, the vios and insight aint too good. the insight's armrest is also a joke for a 100k car. like persona arm rest
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ckk125
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Mar 4 2012, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Mar 4 2012, 08:34 PM) Its interior feels cheap, and is cheap actually. Low quality plastics and worst of all the lines on the dashboard. Do remember that without tax exemption this is a 120+k car yet this is what you get. Vios uses hard plastic too but when you sit in it, it doesnt give you that "cheap car" feel that u grt from prius c.Engine aside, insights interior looks or feels way more solid then prius c, probably because of the design. for me, 'quality' is really subjective.to some, even plastic wood look alike is 'premium' anyway, one have to understand, these cars are actually very costly to make, imagine a 10k battery plus 2 motor generators in addition to a regular engine. not to forget the ECVT and complicated ECU and regenerative brakes. want the premium one, get the ct-200h.
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ckk125
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Mar 7 2012, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Mar 7 2012, 08:49 PM) Prius C thread is really unveiling... Kinda turning point for toyota maybe? for good or bad... u'll be the judge. The way i look at it, liking Prius C entire package is good based on spec. But seeing the real car... subjective maybe but.. u should agree that the quality is $hit. Can't believe its a CBU. Keep up the good discussion guys...  Turning point? come on, honda cant even get half of their sales.
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ckk125
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Mar 9 2012, 07:28 AM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Mar 8 2012, 09:54 PM) Those booking Prius C, make sure you carefully listen to the whining sound when the car slowing down or coasting to stop. Its the recharging stage and quite obvious. Some could accept it, some might not. Make sure u test drive the car. The 'vios' growl when u really push the car were also there but i guess most malaysian already used to that. Road noise about par with Insight (and prius  ). it is present on the ct200h and on the prius as well.haha...good try. People worldwide still buys them over the cheaper insight
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ckk125
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Mar 9 2012, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Mar 9 2012, 09:47 AM) Yeap. Should've bought Inspira last time. Original Can get 16.6km/l summore...  Added on March 9, 2012, 9:48 amJust as Lynas should go die although the thorium wasnt that much of radiation... erm, ur point is? why suddenly inspira? some guys very hebat lah, cannot accept some discussion points. once proven wrong, then resort to inspira. Really mature. zero insighttalking bout prius C, prius and insight then suddenly inspira enter. This post has been edited by ckk125: Mar 9 2012, 10:40 AM
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ckk125
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Mar 21 2012, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Mar 21 2012, 07:15 PM) Just went to show room, after comparing the cars with other model, few this is one of the most worthy car to buy. As it offer push start engine, smart entry, cruiser, 7 air bags, VSC, TRC, colour dashboard display & etc, which Altis, Vios, Fiesta & others don't have it. It will be so much if you add up the cost to install. If you are going for compact car, probably is a good choice. Only if you don't mind the bad design of interior which most of us complain about. i saw both the jazz and prius C. for me, both are very good, but the jazz is a much better looking car with better interior. for once, hybrid cars dont have to sacrifice the car's headroom and legroom. however, i still prefer the prius' HSD over the jazz.
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ckk125
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Mar 21 2012, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Mar 21 2012, 09:55 PM) I am very excited about the Prius C because of all the features you mention above and even have telescopic steering wheel which my Honda Odyssey don't even have. Cars like Camry in Malaysia also don't have telescopic Steering wheel if I am not wrong. But for most people including myself, I find it difficult to pay RM100k for a compact car unless it is truely exceptional. Again I could get a Myvi for half the price which is even more spacious yet it serve the same purpose. myvi doesnt have that many safety features.
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