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watonk
post Jan 10 2012, 05:08 PM

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Insight bigger legroom
Prius C bigger battery
Insight 2 airbags
Prius C 7 airbags
Insight boot 408liter
Prius C boot 260liter

As long as its greener, its good...

watonk
post Jan 10 2012, 05:29 PM

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Anyhow i think its not suitable for small family with 1-2 kids. No place to bring the stroller around.

Good for single or as a 2nd car.


Added on January 10, 2012, 5:49 pm
QUOTE(BuFung @ Jan 10 2012, 05:23 PM)
Insight use wat type battery?  Think Prius C still use NiMH....

Fuel Economy..  The Insight are no way near to the Original Prius with 1.8 Engine...
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Insight average @ 19km/l, Prius 1.8 average @ 21km/l, real world driving.

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watonk
post Feb 18 2012, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(IpohLad @ Feb 17 2012, 10:08 PM)
Why do you ask question about hybrid car pulling power? Dont even think about hybrid if you want pulling power. Eco mean saving fuel, its mean less power, its mean less CO2. If you want pulling power you might as well buy a 2.4ltr car.

I've been driving hybrid since 2006 way before Malaysia start selling them. And yes I have driven all the above models and IMO the H. Insight is the shitest of all. I like the CT200h but I dont see the point of it thats why I bought the Gen 3 Prius.

I do hope that this Prius C is as good as it bigger sibling.
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Aiyah shitest of all aaa? tongue.gif

Lunchtime just wanna rephrase that sometimes, we need that pickup to get into fast & busy highway. And yes Prius may have pulling power. But shitting other make and model is just lame... doh.gif

Afterall we all driving hybrid...



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post Feb 18 2012, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 12:33 AM)
You're a real stupid idiot and one of the many deluded Honda Insight drivers who's too poor to own a Toyota Prius...there are many sour grapes like u around who would argue to the highest heavens that Honda Insight is a superior car despite:
1) having a less powerful engine
2) unrealiable engine just like most Honda cars
3) Insight being a lame entry level car
4) Prius being a above C segment car
5) Insight having one of the most lousy interiors
6) Insight having one of the worst fuel consumption for a hybrid (FYI, Civic Hybrid has better fuel consumption than Insight)
7) Prius being acknowledged worldwide that it is the most fuel efficient car
8) Prius and Lexus CTH being powered by Toyota's Hybrid Synergy technology which is far superior than Honda's outdated/diet Hybrid technology
9) Insight having a most unreliable battery which konks out always...and before u scream at me crying "liar liar, pants on fire" here is the link to it:
http://blog.e-kereta.com/2011/07/honda-civ...-in-ima-system/

Obviously, you have never sat in a Prius or a Lexus before or you would have known about a little something button called POWER MODE which will give Prius a 2.4 litre car performance...and ECO mode has low power??? dont be stupid, ECO mode's only function is to tweak your fuel throttle to being less sensitive and thereby preventing fuel wastage...you will still be able to fly, you just need to press the throttle down a little bit more...
if you still insist on this obvious lie, let's u and me take our respective cars to a highway and i'll put my Prius on ECO mode and you crank up your lame Honda Insight (if that is even possible) and let's see which car bites the dust ok?
dumbass Honda kid...
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Deluded and poor huh? tongue.gif

After gone through the real product (Prius & Insight), extensive test drive, scrutinize the fit & finish, observe real world FC for Insight (http://www.fuelly.com/car/honda/insight/2011) and Prius (http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/prius/2011), and compare their price, nothing can justify the purchase of a Prius over Insight in Malaysia.

Unless buying the badge. Not that brand loyal no good. Only its kinda..... deluded tongue.gif

Yeah Prius is a better hybrid. But RM40K just cant justify that (with plastic rim covers some more doh.gif). And this is only an opinion. Some really want to use up their extra 40K on car (and those nice plastic rim covers brows.gif ). Go ahead. Calling others poor and stupid is just immature. No need to talk big like u'll drive that car till u die. Its just a temporary car.

Come on guys. U guys should be better than those in Inspira vs Forte, Vios vs City, Saga vs Myvi thread. doh.gif

Go green together and respect others isnt too hard is it?
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post Feb 18 2012, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 01:37 AM)
i've seen dumbers like u too many times, keep insisting anyone with a Toyota is only buying because they're a chinaman/loving the badge/displaying blind loyalty...
in truth, the difference between Insight and Prius is worth much more than 40k...
LOL, it's like comparing a Myvi and a Camry...of course there is huge price difference...the ride comfort and the rest doesnt matter eh?
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Nice answer from an owner of a 140k car with plastic rim covers... thumbup.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Feb 18 2012, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 01:50 AM)
enjoy the jam with the airconditioning off... biggrin.gif
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Sorry can't challenge the Prius 'hotness'...
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post Feb 18 2012, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 02:35 AM)
Didums...this is what Honda Insight drivers do, when the air cond offs in the middle of the jam, they remember this picture and think "although it is hot with no bloody air cond, at least my car is still better than a Prius which will burn in Kerinchi"...
all the heat will be instantly forgotten... smile.gif
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Let put more fuel to it... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


Toyota recalls 110,000-plus hybrid cars
Posted on 30 June 2011 - 05:37am
TOKYO (June 29, 2011): Toyota said Wednesday it will recall more than 110,000 hybrid vehicles in the United States, Japan and Europe because of faulty transistors in electrical power control boards.

The US market is the most affected, with the Japanese auto giant recalling 45,500 units of its Highlander Hybrid and 36,700 Lexus RX 400h vehicles due to "inadequate soldering".

Toyota said certain transistors could be damaged from heat caused by a large current flow during high-load driving due to the defect.

In most cases the vehicle will enter a fail-safe driving mode, resulting in reduced power in which the vehicle can still be driven for short distances.

In the worst case, the vehicle could stop, Toyota said.

Roughly 3,000 of the same vehicles are also being recalled in Canada, 11,164 in Japan and 15,000 in Europe, a Toyota spokeswoman said.

Toyota said it is "working on" obtaining replacement parts and will notify owners when they are available.

The latest global recall is a another blow for the company struggling to restore its reputation as a quality automaker, having recalled millions of vehicles since 2009 over safety defects. — AFP

Come on. Just admit it could burnt. Oohh my plastic rim covers burnt cry.gif cry.gif
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post Feb 18 2012, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(khtan2000 @ Feb 18 2012, 03:31 AM)
lol is this a prius c discussion thread or a thread for fanboys to whine about how great their ride is?

speaking of which, these hybrids are not even considered luxury ones to start whining about
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This is what happen when owner of certain car felt their car much superior than others and start calling others dumb, stupid and poor.

I say lets go green together but still... the reply is disappointing. The facts is both car is just average Joe's and only transition to better technology.

Calling others stupid, but buying a cheapo hybrid with 15 inch plastic wheel covers @ 140K in Malaysia isnt that bright either. Infact, it has flaw that kills.
In other market, trim-per-trim, price different is only RM9 - 10k.

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 18 2012, 02:43 AM)
There is not a lot of choices but not that ugly.

However, I do dislike one thing about Honda. Sometimes the ride is just too hard. We had one City FL and it is really hard. It was stolen and the next one we bought was the same but with a slight FL again which has softer seat but retain the suspension hardness. I went for Insight test drive the other day and was really surprised by the harsh ride. You can feel even the slightest imperfection of the road.

Lets see how the facelifted Insight will fare against Prius C. I think the drive is quite good. Its silent and did not really feel the lack of power. The acceleration up to 100KMH was okay, not as sluggish as I first feared. Hope they get rid of the PE foam box (CHEAPO ICE BOX foam) in the boot for tyre storage. Not suitable if want to carry something heavy.
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Thats a trade off for a Japanese car. Either softly sprung and wallowy, or firmer setup for better handling.
U see, japs tune their suspension differently from conti cars. Germans for example, can tune merc Avantgarde suspension to be a good handler and at the same time comfortable enough for normal citizen. Japanese make usually use the cheaper setup, hence, some compromise have to be taken.

Toyota is very good at stripping their suspension to be damn comfortable. Their suspension often flimsy and wallowy, with boatlike handling and excessive body roll in corners. This is the example of so called superior, luxury Toyota hybrid but equipped with fail suspension.
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The Prius suddenly lost control, hit 2 cars in front and slams into the barrier.

Even worst, the so called luxury hybrid even failed to deploys their 7 airbags eventhough the driver was wearing seatbelt. Sadly, the driver die in that accident.

So if u're an aggressive driver, choose other than Toyota coz similar kinda 'lost control' accident prone to happen. Vios, Avanza, used to have this risk.

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post Feb 18 2012, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 02:35 AM)
Didums...this is what Honda Insight drivers do, when the air cond offs in the middle of the jam, they remember this picture and think "although it is hot with no bloody air cond, at least my car is still better than a Prius which will burn in Kerinchi"...
all the heat will be instantly forgotten... smile.gif
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I have a present for you. Shot from the best angle, featuring the ever-glimmering plastic covers... thumbup.gif
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post Feb 18 2012, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 18 2012, 06:39 PM)
There u go LYN have a lot of f1 driver require very sporty suspension that usually toyota cannot meet their requirement...  Usually this type of driver need lotus tune products... thumbup.gif
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Yea. People with passion for cars usually dont buy by the badge. Most Honda owners have nothing against Proton or Lotus. Only some, owning Toyota felt so superior they look down to others.

QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 07:43 PM)
hahahahaha....u really wanna talk about being able to afford cars?
the guy who could only buy an Insight...tsk tsk...


Added on February 18, 2012, 7:47 pm
yup...no Honda Insight has ever crashed before... whistling.gif
only Prius will kill u when you have a heart attack in the middle of Federal Highway...
i would suggest you please drive damn fast on federal highway and then try to crash and see if Honda Insight's safety features will save you on such an impact...
then if you're still alive after that, I'll kowtow to u and say Insight is the best car ever!
waiting for the crash results...
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Sure got Insight crashed before but not as nasty. And Insight is not the best car ever. whistling.gif
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post Feb 18 2012, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 18 2012, 08:08 PM)

yea, prius C is not the best hybrid. lets buy fiesta and keep rm20k to put petrol biggrin.gif win-win.
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should've put it 'yea, prius is the best hybrid. but lets buy fiesta and keep rm60k to put petrol biggrin.gif win-win.' tongue.gif
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post Feb 21 2012, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(WannaGetBuffed @ Feb 21 2012, 12:53 PM)
competition of hybrid is good for the consumers. those buy proton lagi tekan balls. add a bit more can buy CBU Japan edi biggrin.gif

i think insight fanboys will bang balls the most.
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Yes. I regret buying Insight and is banging my balls now tongue.gif
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post Feb 21 2012, 01:11 PM

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post Feb 21 2012, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 01:24 PM)
The Dashboard is so so so boring... bet myvi dash is nicer


Added on February 21, 2012, 1:36 pm

Agree... but there is a downside to this technology... you see By doing this the car is 100% depending on the nimh battery pack and the car cannot move without it as when the time the priusC nimh cell die the compressor and water pump cannot run... your car engine will over heat...

Insight is called parallel hybrid and it rely on independent power source... meaning the Insight nimh battery only assist nothing more.. (hence called IMA)
when the nimh pack die/expired the car can drive like normal and uses normal starter to start the car... the car will run like normal 1.3l car... until you get the pack replace... this is much fool proof... and in hard time where no $$$ change nimh pack can rely on petrol at the mean time...

dont tell me prius NIMH can last lifetime... no battery can last a lifetime it is a matter of time... and still wondering why UMW-T still give only 3 years battery warranty???
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How can u say like that. Toyota parts all last lifetime one tongue.gif
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post Feb 21 2012, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 21 2012, 02:20 PM)
acterly the accurate term for insight or IMA equipped hybrid is Mild Hybrid. which is the lowest tech hybrid. it cannot run on EV mode alone.
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It runs on full EV mode below 50km/h. However engine still register rpm reading since the motor runs the crankshaft.
Prius C run its electric motor and disengage ICE under full EV.
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post Feb 21 2012, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Feb 21 2012, 03:25 PM)
That's not what I understand. IMA = full time combustion engine + part time electric motor. As long as your car is moving, your combustion engine will be running, and that's why you see your engine RPM rising.
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For Insight, when the car goes full EV mode at speed under 50km/h, the vtec mechanism will shut of all valves (0 cam lobe). Each cylinder will produce their own pressure every time piston goes up. However these pressure will equalize one another as all pistons take turn to moves up and down. Injector will be shut of, plugs (2 per cylinder) will also cease fire.
Only electric motor moves the car (coasting). Since the motor bolted onto the crankshaft and act as the flywheel, engine will still register rpm reading.

Prius C, on full EV, the drivetrain will disengage combustion engine.

However, both full EV mode is restricted to the amount of charge left in the batteries.

QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 21 2012, 04:01 PM)
ppl explain something, to be polite we should just  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

i think now the new game in this hybrid is....

whoever save less fuel = real hybrid.
prius= bigger car, use less fuel = fake hybrid/part hybrid

xxxxxxx = smaller car, use more fuel, no aircon at jam = real hybrid/full hybrid.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 21 2012, 04:11 PM)
There are many many hybrid on the road worldwide already, it is not the like majority spoilt after 5 years, 8 years later.
Stop worry about this.

Getting a hybrid car is about getting and own the new tech and use to it.
It is same like want to use handphone, and worry about the radiation. Pointless worry.

The moment of one wish to own a hybrid, you don't worry the battery will die, car cannot start if battery died etc. already.
Battery died time? Tow away and get it fix.
Same with ordinary car, timing belt broken, tow away and get it fix.
No money to get a new set of NimH if battery died after 10 years? then one should buy cheaper ordinary car.
I find unacceptable that one can afford to buy a 100k hybrid car, and yet claim cannot afford potential around 10K cost battery replacement after 10 years later on.

I sum up, disregard it is part or parallel hybrid.

The moment one worry about battery spoil, battery cost, it means hybrid is not suitable for one. End of story.   smile.gif
No $ to change NiMH after 5 years, 8 years or 10 years, means one is not afford to own the car. End of story.   smile.gif
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post Feb 23 2012, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 23 2012, 03:47 PM)
inferior technology means inferior technology la...what some more u want to TC?
Honda Insight's biggest selling point as a hybrid is the price alone...if a person has money and has slightly more brains than yourself, Prius is the clear choice...

congratulations, you are the most stupid person in this LYN forum i think...
you have reached the level of Jessie Ooi, the Selayang BN coordinator...
if this thread was a televised event, you would find yourself insinuated with messages calling you all kinds of unsavory names, deservedly so too...
not even Honda salesman dares to twist and try sell such bullshit to its customers...while you have shamelessly sneaked in the term full hybrid into Honda's IMA equation...wonder-f***ing-fool indeed...
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 23 2012, 04:56 PM)
then correct me smile.gif see stupid (did not even read the braket) I ress my case
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How dare you talked about superior luxury hybrid car like that. tongue.gif
Should've warn u earlier.

QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 23 2012, 06:32 PM)
dedicate photo for some pro...

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Chicken picture, bangla avatar, patriot summore. Prius C sales is in safe hands thumbup.gif

QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 23 2012, 09:41 PM)
electrical modification ......dont play play. car might caughtfire
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Couldn't be as hot as compressor off in traffic jams tongue.gif


Added on February 23, 2012, 10:50 pmLeaf is coming. So we're all nonsense tongue.gif

Full Hybrid vs Full Electric anyone?

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post Feb 24 2012, 09:19 AM

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'Toyota attracts an older crowd'... laugh.gif

Oldman choose Camry. Younger generation likes hybrid and of course they will drive slow (till end up at the barrier). rclxms.gif


Added on February 24, 2012, 9:22 am
QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Feb 24 2012, 02:08 AM)
just went to showroom saw the prius C....the interior is really ugly with the advance meter doh.gif

but the facelift prius really impress me, the front part is sooo nice :thumb: but the rim...aiyo...with alloy rim, why still but a ulgy rim cover!!! doh.gif
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Yeah. Even if they wanna cost down, at least they could reuse Vios or Altis or Yaris dashboard.
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post Mar 5 2012, 12:14 AM

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Sorry for the interior...
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A huge sum of what u paying will be invested on the technology thumbup.gif
*take note technology expires in no time...
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post Mar 7 2012, 08:49 PM

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Prius C thread is really unveiling... rclxms.gif

Kinda turning point for toyota maybe? for good or bad... u'll be the judge. The way i look at it, liking Prius C entire package is good based on spec. But seeing the real car... subjective maybe but.. u should agree that the quality is $hit. Can't believe its a CBU.

Keep up the good discussion guys...

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