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cherroy
post Feb 21 2012, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 01:24 PM)
Agree... but there is a downside to this technology... you see By doing this the car is 100% depending on the nimh battery pack and the car cannot move without it as when the time the priusC nimh cell die the compressor and water pump cannot run... your car engine will over heat...

Insight is called parallel hybrid and it rely on independent power source... meaning the Insight nimh battery only assist nothing more.. (hence called IMA)
when the nimh pack die/expired the car can drive like normal and uses normal starter to start the car... the car will run like normal 1.3l car... until you get the pack replace... this is much fool proof... and in hard time where no $$$ change nimh pack can rely on petrol at the mean time...


dont tell me prius NIMH can last lifetime... no battery can last a lifetime it is a matter of time... and still wondering why UMW-T still give only 3 years battery warranty???
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There are many many hybrid on the road worldwide already, it is not the like majority spoilt after 5 years, 8 years later.
Stop worry about this.

Getting a hybrid car is about getting and own the new tech and use to it.
It is same like want to use handphone, and worry about the radiation. Pointless worry.

The moment of one wish to own a hybrid, you don't worry the battery will die, car cannot start if battery died etc. already.
Battery died time? Tow away and get it fix.
Same with ordinary car, timing belt broken, tow away and get it fix.
No money to get a new set of NimH if battery died after 10 years? then one should buy cheaper ordinary car.
I find unacceptable that one can afford to buy a 100k hybrid car, and yet claim cannot afford potential around 10K cost battery replacement after 10 years later on.

I sum up, disregard it is part or parallel hybrid.

The moment one worry about battery spoil, battery cost, it means hybrid is not suitable for one. End of story. smile.gif
No $ to change NiMH after 5 years, 8 years or 10 years, means one is not afford to own the car. End of story. smile.gif

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post Feb 21 2012, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 05:37 PM)
Read nicely yes can start provided the NIMH pack still can charge (lifespan) but if exhausted all electrical system will eventually fail... like Water pump that rely on 200v battery...
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So what the fuss about if the NiMH pack fail totally time?
The car cannot start, cannot move, then just tow away, and change a new pack.

Even ordinary car, time belt can be broken after 80-100k KM, and car cannot even start also.
Radiator leaking, water pump leaking, car also cannot start.
Just tow away and get it fix.

Every ordinary car after 8-10 years, parts also got spoil here, spoil there.
Choose a car just because can start even if NiMH pack fail time that may only happen once after 8 years or even longer period?
NiMH fails, just change one.
What is the worry?
I don't find this is a good reason to say this is a good car or not.

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post Feb 21 2012, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(0300078 @ Feb 21 2012, 07:28 PM)
sometimes when ppl are blinded by their own favourite thing and they dun see things clearly....

is just like when u first fall in love, u will always think that ur other half is the best in the world.

Cannot argue cannot blame.... is just human nature.
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T or H doesn't pay us to be fanboyism, instead we paid our hard-earned money to own one.
Paid 100k then still provide free self service to promote and posting fanboyism comment? doh.gif

Unless they do pay us or give special discount for fanboyism, then different story. tongue.gif

Every car has its own drawback and advantage.
If A car has advantage over B car, even we own B car, we just said A is better built car.

One likes the car, because you like the car, not because the car is the best or better than others.
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post Feb 21 2012, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 21 2012, 10:20 PM)
acterly i'm quite dissatisfied with this 5k thing also..  sad.gif  the akod and city they say must 5k interval even if fully syn.

my yaris 10k service SC say no problem if pay for better oil.
my JDM toyopet send to TOMS, use RM99 toyota japan lub also 10k interval.
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Fully syn also 5K?
Better use mineral oil.

5K is very quick to achieve, for people that travel regularly, almost every 2 month changing oil then.

Last time, I changed oil for every 12k-14K, using semi-syn, drive for 6-7 years, mileage >160K KM, no problem at all. Engine still in tip top condition.
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post Mar 15 2012, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Mar 15 2012, 11:03 AM)
Technology will obsolete very fast, now even proton have engine start button, auto wiper, auto light & etc.

The main reason we buy import cars is due to comfort & reliable. Which Prius C had fail terrible in the comfort (sucks interior).
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Just because one doesn't like the interior design, it doesn't mean it is terrible in comfort.
Unrelated.
Some may view the design is ok, different people different taste.
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post Apr 4 2012, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(timeonce @ Apr 4 2012, 09:30 PM)
haha ^^ . Then you buy prius for ??? haha

I think i go for prius c cause it save fuel and save cost in long run.

As i calculate d. If i buy a Myvi RM940 per month, Prius C i pay RM999 per month.

But then, i save more fuel and 7 airbag and more steel and safer.

And i be driving around 1600km per month. So be saving half the fuel aroud RM150 per month. Hence its cost saving d.

Add in maintenance lesser in long run as there is no belt or rubber in prius c make maintenance cheaper than maintaining Myvi.

And most important is it is a TOYOTA and we dont need to pay excise duty for it. Can't bear to see how much tax paid for bonus and salary each month so must gain back from somewhere and this is the perfect chance.
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No belt at all for Prius C?
So how those aircond, alternator work?

Belt and rubber is cheap only, max hundred buck+, and those shouldn't spoil at least 3-4 years down the road.
I only changed once car belt after 6 years, 120,000km

Myvi if anything spoil or breakdown, I am sure outside got a lot of workshop can fix it.
Hybrid car, no workshop dare to touch at the moment as far as I know.

How to compare Prius C with Myvi, price different already 40~50k, can Prius C save you RM 40K petrol?

Save Rm150 per month, 5 years, only save you Rm8000
10 years Rm16,000.
You need 25 years to save the petrol cost as compared to the Myvi price difference.

Buying hybrid, you cannot count how much petrol save to justify your cost.
If solely to justify the cost, Viva, Saga, Myvi always win miles ahead.


 

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