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ar188
post Feb 18 2012, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 18 2012, 08:08 PM)


yea, prius C is bad. lets buy fiesta and keep rm20k to put petrol biggrin.gif win-win.
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post Feb 18 2012, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 18 2012, 08:17 PM)


aiyo, fixed already!!  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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post Feb 21 2012, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(rainie1284 @ Feb 21 2012, 10:04 AM)
really bad interior.. even the engine compartment look sub standard
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what u mean engine compartment substandard, probably half the car cost went into this engine bay.. biggrin.gif


Added on February 21, 2012, 12:27 pm
QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 20 2012, 09:58 PM)
sales of Insight will drop..thats for sure! biggrin.gif
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thats why they will counter with cheaper jazz with nicer interior albeit lower tech hybrid components..

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post Feb 21 2012, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 01:24 PM)
The Dashboard is so so so boring... bet myvi dash is nicer


Added on February 21, 2012, 1:36 pm

Agree... but there is a downside to this technology... you see By doing this the car is 100% depending on the nimh battery pack and the car cannot move without it as when the time the priusC nimh cell die the compressor and water pump cannot run... your car engine will over heat...

Insight is called parallel hybrid and it rely on independent power source... meaning the Insight nimh battery only assist nothing more.. (hence called IMA)
when the nimh pack die/expired the car can drive like normal and uses normal starter to start the car... the car will run like normal 1.3l car... until you get the pack replace... this is much fool proof... and in hard time where no $$$ change nimh pack can rely on petrol at the mean time...

dont tell me prius NIMH can last lifetime... no battery can last a lifetime it is a matter of time... and still wondering why UMW-T still give only 3 years battery warranty???
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acterly the accurate term for insight or IMA equipped hybrid is Mild Hybrid. which is the lowest tech hybrid. it cannot run on EV mode alone.

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Mild hybrids are essentially conventional vehicles with some degree of hybrid hardware, but with limited hybrid feature utilization. Typically they are a parallel system with start-stop only or possibly in combination with modest levels of engine assist or regenerative braking features. Unlike full hybrids, Mild hybrids generally cannot provide ICE-OFF all-electric (EV) propulsion.

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post Feb 21 2012, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 03:53 PM)
You are right the engine run all the time but there is a technology in Insight honda uses in the Accord V6 3.5 that is VCM... but insted like V6 that auto shut off 3 out of 6 cylinder Insight uses VCM to turn all all 4 cylinder in EV mode meaning the engine move but no fuel go in and no combustion... but power loss still there as the Electric motor still turn the engine which is not really required...

In Hybrid world there is no Mild/full hybrid there is parallel and Part hybrid...

let me explain

Parallel Hybrid is what Insight uses

it basically sandwitch the IMA motor in between Engine and Gearbox hence it is called parallel or Full time hybrid (you cannot dis engage either of them the both hybrid need to work fulltime to work)

HSD or Part Hybrid is what Toyota uses

it basically insted of a paralles setup it put in another planatery gearbox which disengage the ICE or Electric motor or uses both it is at the moment the most efficient hybrid as you dont get power loss like parallel hybrid

Some confusion like 4WD... it is the same shit and confuse used in 4WD world... in 4WD world part 4WD is better than fulltime 4WD

and in hybrid HSD or part hybrid is the best setup as the car can decide which to run or both and not forced to run both fulltime...

so let put it this way FULL HYBRID is SALESMAN BULLSHIT!!! (Mainly toyota salesman lah)

Toyota HSD uses part hybrid and Honda uses Full hybrid but since uncle think full hybrid is better toyota salesman quickly twist the fact...!!! ouch...
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if you not engineer no need to explain and conjure up new concepts..

you cannot start and drive the car in the parking lot purely on electric motor. that's why it's a mild hybrid.

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post Feb 21 2012, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 21 2012, 06:41 PM)
fanboy always the most clevr 1.... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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Toyota HSD uses part hybrid and Honda uses Full hybrid but since uncle think full hybrid is better toyota salesman quickly twist the fact...!!! ouch...


amazing explanation, suddenly toyota become part hybrid and honda IMA is acterly full hybrid. laugh.gif but due to toyota salesman, the term is switched around..
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post Feb 21 2012, 07:14 PM

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suddenly i malu to know although i got 2011 honda city E spec and 2.4 akod, but represented by fanboys like this.. sweat.gif
but luckily i also toyopet JDM mpv and yaris la.. so not hardcore fanbois on either of the brand.. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 21 2012, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 21 2012, 09:11 PM)


That why Japs dont care about the battery, as at the time the battery died the car already scrap and in someone chop shop already...
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u mean end up in our port.. brows.gif
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post Feb 21 2012, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Feb 21 2012, 10:01 PM)
honda malaysia's 5k service is hurting them.

acterly i'm quite dissatisfied with this 5k thing also.. sad.gif the akod and city they say must 5k interval even if fully syn.

my yaris 10k service SC say no problem if pay for better oil.
my JDM toyopet send to TOMS, use RM99 toyota japan lub also 10k interval.


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post Feb 21 2012, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 21 2012, 10:21 PM)
Use mineral oil for 10k Toyota sc mah die die accept ur car.....
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japanese car belt also dem terror can tahan so long, my rx8 external belt no change yet.. 140k liao.. my toyopet 120k also no change yet.. biggrin.gif (of cos these cars no timing belt lor)
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post Feb 21 2012, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 21 2012, 10:24 PM)
Fully syn also 5K?
Better use mineral oil.

5K is very quick to achieve, for people that travel regularly, almost every 2 month changing oil then.

Last time, I changed oil for every 12k-14K, using semi-syn, drive for 6-7 years, mileage >160K KM, no problem at all. Engine still in tip top condition.
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of cos i didn't try their full syn since they say still need to bring back after 5k..
but yeah, 5k very fast for me, cos i use 3k per month, so dun tell me every 2mths service once meh? last time my 407 also reach 140k in like 3+ years crazy.... but their service interval is 20k using total full syn oil.

now each car less cos rotate every few days..
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post Feb 21 2012, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 21 2012, 11:08 PM)
hm....is he 32 years old? he needs a way to vent his anger.....jerking off doesnt help i guess.
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what la,, people sarng the insight fanbois mah. brows.gif
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post Feb 22 2012, 11:59 PM

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already see today.. i feel abit rear small compared to my yaris.. the rear seat and headrest like same only.. ??
the sloping rear gives it feel like those really small car like suzuki alto.. which is quite small.
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post Feb 23 2012, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 23 2012, 09:41 PM)
electrical modification ......dont play play. car might caughtfire
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maybe he means parallel import of the original item. (not fake water type)
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post Feb 23 2012, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 23 2012, 10:12 PM)
biggrin.gif still scary....engine oil also got fake one .
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fake lancer scary or not? laugh.gif
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post Feb 24 2012, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 23 2012, 10:33 PM)
There is only 1 person in the entire thread cannot come to conclusion of it...  And still creating term like part hybrid, full link hybrid etc to syiok sendiri...  =.=". Which I think wasting gas to explain to...    Just wanna stop those long article to confuses more forumers...
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no the best is toyota salesman twist the term around.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Feb 24 2012, 02:08 AM)
just went to showroom saw the prius C....the interior is really ugly with the advance meter doh.gif

but the facelift prius really impress me, the front part is sooo nice :thumb: but the rim...aiyo...with alloy rim, why still but a ulgy rim cover!!! doh.gif
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change to the Japan prius original 17in rim lor.. brows.gif i believe one forumer here bought that from japan.
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post Feb 26 2012, 05:20 PM

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how come these insight fellas like got serious allergy toward toyota hybrid wan ar? laugh.gif
both brands also i like since i got 2 cars each from both brands.
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post Feb 26 2012, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 26 2012, 05:24 PM)
It hurt..  cry.gif  cry.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif
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u wait for hyundai to bring in its hybrid lor... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 26 2012, 05:46 PM)
I tot usually this kind of comedy happen only in proton thread...  Now a day even Toyota thread Also have fun....
FnF getting more n more interesting...
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