Well competition is healthy... lets see what Jazz Hybrid gotta offer

The Dashboard is so so so boring... bet myvi dash is nicer

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Added on February 21, 2012, 1:36 pmAgree... but there is a downside to this technology... you see By doing this the car is 100% depending on the nimh battery pack and the car cannot move without it as when the time the priusC nimh cell die the compressor and water pump cannot run... your car engine will over heat...

Insight is called parallel hybrid and it rely on independent power source... meaning the Insight nimh battery only assist nothing more.. (hence called IMA)
when the nimh pack die/expired the car can drive like normal and uses normal starter to start the car... the car will run like normal 1.3l car... until you get the pack replace... this is much fool proof... and in hard time where no $$$ change nimh pack can rely on petrol at the mean time...

dont tell me prius NIMH can last lifetime... no battery can last a lifetime it is a matter of time... and still wondering why UMW-T still give only 3 years battery warranty???

This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Feb 21 2012, 01:36 PM

You are right the engine run all the time but there is a technology in Insight honda uses in the Accord V6 3.5 that is VCM... but insted like V6 that auto shut off 3 out of 6 cylinder Insight uses VCM to turn all all 4 cylinder in EV mode meaning the engine move but no fuel go in and no combustion... but power loss still there as the Electric motor still turn the engine which is not really required...

In Hybrid world there is no Mild/full hybrid there is parallel and Part hybrid...

let me explain

Parallel Hybrid is what Insight uses

it basically sandwitch the IMA motor in between Engine and Gearbox hence it is called parallel or Full time hybrid (you cannot dis engage either of them the both hybrid need to work fulltime to work)

HSD or Part Hybrid is what Toyota uses

it basically insted of a paralles setup it put in another planatery gearbox which disengage the ICE or Electric motor or uses both it is at the moment the most efficient hybrid as you dont get power loss like parallel hybrid

Some confusion like 4WD... it is the same shit and confuse used in 4WD world... in 4WD world part 4WD is better than fulltime 4WD

and in hybrid HSD or part hybrid is the best setup as the car can decide which to run or both and not forced to run both fulltime...

so let put it this way FULL HYBRID is SALESMAN BULLSHIT!!! (Mainly toyota salesman lah)

Toyota HSD uses part hybrid and Honda uses Full hybrid but since uncle think full hybrid is better toyota salesman quickly twist the fact...!!! ouch...

correct term is HSD since toyota patent it L)

Insight can run on pure EV more laaa just not aggressive as Prius but that does not matter since the battery will eventually went out of juice and need petrol to charge it back... power is not free and Hybrid main source of power is still petrol...

Driving insight after 5 years switch to Clarity by Honda Hydrogen case close!!!

PriusC uses CVT also (thats on the brochure)

PSD connect to CVT then to wheel...

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Added on February 21, 2012, 4:51 pmOOps correction Prius uses ECVT.... ok....

This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Feb 21 2012, 04:51 PM

yeah corrected it is called ECVT or PSD hehehehe....

Read nicely yes can start provided the NIMH pack still can charge (lifespan) but if exhausted all electrical system will eventually fail... like Water pump that rely on 200v battery...

Look like Myvi SE... er no offence... ditch the yellow... unless got TRD kits then re-consider yellow....

hmm I drive a kancil 660 1996 clock 250,000km no problem also maaa.... (psst auto summore muahahaha)

whats your point again??

oh... I was born in the 80's muahahaha!!!

hmm... Prius Facelift uses black interior... looks better now

PriusC Interior still grey... got Toyota SEG feel...

This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Feb 22 2012, 01:13 AM

Sigh... I did not say Honda IMA approach is the best... I always stress Toyota HSD is the best... duh... read nicely this is the reason stupid people never bother to read all... hence stupid...

IMA is always a IMA laaa Motor Assist thats all... hence Parallel Hybrid why Parallel cause the setup is link in parallel Engine--IMA Motor--Gearbox
it cannot be separated and both must spin together (Hence a Full link hybrid) not like HSD where the ECU can decide to stop and un-link the Motor/Engine form one another or operate both together (Hence Synergy the name) Also Part hybrid.... alot of people think Full hybrid the best but technology proven this type of full time hybrid has alot of energy loss... why move a engine when you are not using it... but by doing this it is very much like a normal car engine.. except you add a IMA motor between it.. hence when you look at Honda Japan Website you have tons of Hybrid option

like Hybrid Freed / Hybrid Jazz / Hybrid Spike / Hybrid... well basically all the L series engine can be fitted a IMA... so in Honda japan not really a bad idea after all only Malaysia we do not get the full range of Honda offering and limit us to only few hybrid model

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto/

Toyota HSD is AWESOME tech but it is specialize to certain car model (correct me)

explain then

then correct me see stupid (did not even read the braket) I ress my case

I'll take Nissan Leave anytime if my apartment have a power outlet at the carpark... or my office have a power outlet for me to steal electric...

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Added on February 24, 2012, 10:11 amThink Toyota Hybrid NIMH is 3 years... it is by panasonic company that develop for them... it is custom size and shape...

Honda give 5 years for NIMH battery and made by SANYO it is normal D-cell Battery soldered together (much like notebook battery soldering) in serial... I think they have around 88 D cell NIMH in Insight (Maybee more / maybee less) haha

There is 12v Acid Battery at all car (Hybrid/or not hybrid) at the moment Honda give 24month warranty for 12v lead acid battery and toyota give 12 month... outside replacement usually give 6 month

This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Feb 24 2012, 10:11 AM

FULL HYBRID kuasa to wife I take FULL ELECTRIC can zap flies....

SAD cause TNB uses fossil fuel also..... but I can get free electricity @ office company pay muahaha (EVIL LAUGH!!!)

cannot charge at home (not yet) stay at apartment maaa car park park way below hahaha no power outlet... wonder if the management allowed me to do hacking and wiring hahaha

Think you can see PriusC in bugger UMW direct showroom like in Subang Jaya there

Interior quite boring....