not sure about SAP but Helpdesk and Level 2 support are the one who get affected in term of outsourcing/automation. Is happening in my workplace and I'm in the risk too.

*Looking for other job now while I'm still in safe place*

Based on your posts (which reflects your personality), it'll be very tough to find a job in AU

Dear All,

Being applying pr now and just pending my wife and son's medical check. shall be doing it this week.
I'm quantity surveyor with 9 years experience and primary application.
Hopefully will get the visa granted before chinese new year so i could pack things up for moving forward. Will be heading perth for job hunting.
Any suggestion besides perth?

Anybody knows how is the job market for a electronics engineer in Australia and which state would have better work opportunities?

anybody work in australia bank?

Seriously, have to pay respect to you guys who done so. It requires so much courage but also putting the entire family in risk.

I have so many friends doing so for the past few years. Some got PR in Msia found a job before coming here. Some came here and got a job offer in just short period of time while the unlucky one had been jobless for a year. Can see their life are so sour during the whole process, until they got a job!

Please note that in Perth, rent is high and without a proper job, is becoming more and more difficult to find a place to rent! Unless you are going the stay with your relatives.

hop over without securing a job b4hand, and with whole family.....

good luck to you

Secure job first before moving. And for high earners in M'sia, your lifestyle will change even you secure 150k per annum job. Don't expect maid, grass cutter, plumber etc and learn how to do household activities yourself since no more cheap foreigners to depend upon. And when negotiating contract, make sure you check whether superannuation contribution is included or excluded in your package. At the end, you want to know how much disposable income you have after superannuation and income tax deduction.

What is a superannuation? Mind to explain?

super = epf
its good to read more if you guys are serious in working in AU..
no point asking all the questions here, as everyone comment will be different..
and it doenst means one cant job easily and that will apply to you..
as i've mentioned thousand time, its whether you are willing to take the risk or not..

Easier said than done. Unless you are sponsored by an employer.

low chance to secure job. HR will dispose the job application into bin when they see your address is not in australia.

find a job before move? look for non-australian company/boss to gain chance but still not easy

btw, job opportunity in IT sector in Australia is dropping now. helpdesk position being outsourced to asian country, not much desktop/technical support needed because of the automation in Windows 7/MOE and most of the computers are covered by warranty(from dell,hp,etc). lot of budget cutting this year and i can see there will be more worst on next year

Wow QS with exp to boot.
You should have no problems getting a job in Aus. As long as you are not too picky about salary and benefits.
It's quite a ncihe area plus you have the necessary experience.
But why Perth? Why not Sydney and/or Melbourne.
All the action is in Sydney and/or Melbourne. More job opportunities too

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Added on November 29, 2012, 9:00 pmYou got a job offer from Australian Bank or you're asking coa you're interested to look for one?

If you already got one then I would say its ok depending on what side your on (Commercial, retail or investment) and what function (Backroom, middle office or front office)

If you're asking becuase yr interested to find one then forget about it.
Banking in Australia is cut throat in employment with many functions outsourced to outside Australia due to cost issues. The remaining jobs are either localised (meaning they cannot outsource such as Relationship Management - in which case you will NOT be considered since you're NOT australian i presume) and/or specialised and its priority will always be given to Australians. In short your chances is equivalent of striking a lottery.

This post has been edited by mercury8400: Nov 29 2012, 09:00 PM

Dear guys,

Thanks for your valuable advise. My planning is i'll be going there alone 1st for job hunting. Financially shall be ok in KL as my wife income can recoup all expenses in KL. As for me, I might starting with casual job 1st.
Yeah, agree with all the advise that there shall be huge change in lifestyle. However, when you a have a family, you won't have time clubbing around or shop everywhere as you'll spend most all of your time with the children which this might not happen in malaysia. Why? coz you'll work like hell which you spend most of your time with your boss and colleague more than family.
I've foreseen these 10 years ago and i let pass PR application twice even before the system change.
I stayed in sydney 10 years ago so coming back in malaysia is bad idea but however i managed to meet my wife.
For the sake of education, i don't mind to get my hands dirty for my children.
Most my friends are managers earning 10K/mth. They can't accept my decision either as they're having so many commitments in malaysia with houses and cars.
Well, this is something personal so no offend.
Some people even saying they're always happy hanging in mamak stall but i can tell ya when you're married, you don't really always hanging there. I'm speaking the truth.

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Added on December 5, 2012, 10:43 amMelbourne is considerable but not sydney. Housing price is unbearable.
Well, I'm sticking with my purposes of going australia is to raise my children with quality time with them.
Sydney is a huge city which yeah lots of job opportunities. However, not the type of life i want. If heading there is with KL no difference.

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Added on December 5, 2012, 10:50 amI agreed. You won't learn how to swim if you don't jump into the river.
If really can't find a secured job in period of time, then come back lar. Nothing to lose. PR is just an option and you wont lose everything.
People tend to afraid almost everything without even try. Yes, courage comes 1st, but you'll never know what's ahead of you.
Life is a journey, LIVE IT!


This post has been edited by Nemesis1980: Dec 5 2012, 10:50 AM

Hey guys. I will be quiting my SG IT job and hop to Australia next month!

Yes! I have not secure a job!
Yes! I have Australia PR! (VE176)!
Yes! No response from Seek/Careerone/Monster/LinkedIn (Maybe my address is SG address).
Yes! It is risky and I might earn more in SG!
Yes! I am single and lesser commitment!
Yes! I am going to the most livable city in the world!

anyone here is an electrical engineer with experience in laundry and food processing?

If your reason for choosing Perth is mining then it shouldn't be too hard for you to land a high pay job provided that you are willing to do FIFO. And don't ask me what is that, google it.

But you won't be spending a lot of time with your family though, and that will probably defeat the purpose of you moving to OZ in the first place. But then again, QS might not need to spend too much time on site, but I don't know cause that is not my field.

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Added on December 6, 2012, 7:57 amIT ? Operations? Front end? Either one of it, good luck. New round of redundancy packages handed out each year. I'm in the process of encouraging my wife to volunteer for redundancy next year and do some small business instead.


This post has been edited by divine061: Dec 6 2012, 07:57 AM

I kind of agreed with u too. FIFO may beat the purpose of being there especially heading to kalgoorie or somewhere of nowhere while your family couldn't bring along. Mining shall come to an end in WA coz now more concentrating on Queensland which shall be largest mining the Oz history.
My profession mainly on construction but it'll be big hit too when recession came along and of course it won't lose out too.
Heard that some my friend working in mining kena goreng also who's engineer. Previously they have high pay but not zero income. But still he gained very good experience which i think he won't lose out too as there's plenty of vacancy for him maybe for him to move to Queensland.

Yea, FIFO for new migrate for a couple of years and it will be a lot easier to get some other job. I think a lot of people are doing that while earning a lot of money. For construction, I think you'll need to know the market as a QS right? Like housing for example, weatherboard house, using wood as the main partitions of the buildings and lots of gyprock rather then brick is very common here. But the story is probably different in Malaysia.

Or maybe some opportunities would be in preparing tax depreciation schedules, but then again, you'll need a lot more local market knowledge and experience to know the material and price + historical prices. Is that right?

Apartments in Melbourne are saturated, so if you wants to go into project building / developer, I think Sydney is a better choice. As far as I read, Sydney is probably the only city that is under supplied right now (in terms of dwellings for residential), so you might want to consider that.

I'm surfing a lot in somersoft and homeone forum recently. There should be some thread on project home or developers that might be useful to you.

Hey, thanks. Your help come in handy.
I managed to contact my friends who's being working as my profession for years. As what he told me tax depreciation is something new to malaysia as this only apply to australia due to their tax is sky high. Suppose this shall be done by accountant or tax officer but they dont hv such knowledge. So this falls to be our baby. Well, i did learn this before during uni but that was 10 yrs ago which doesn't imply in malaysia so don't bother at 1st. Now, i may thinking of taking a course to gain this for me to have better knowledge. Research a few jobs and tax depreciation report can charge around AUD2k to 3k per report. Think about if you assessing 10 report would be 20k - 30k which is good $$.
Saw their sample report which is very easy to do, only need to identify the property value and renovation work attached and submit to tax dept. This shall regain 20-30% tax deduct. Of course some paper works need to be done but i think even SPM leaver can learn also.
Besides that, all the work nature are the same only the software they used and the pricing shall be different which this has to gain from Oz.
Australian experience?yeah i know most employers going to reject some1 with this reason but without a start, where's the australia experience?