Dear All,

Being applying pr now and just pending my wife and son's medical check. shall be doing it this week.
I'm quantity surveyor with 9 years experience and primary application.
Hopefully will get the visa granted before chinese new year so i could pack things up for moving forward. Will be heading perth for job hunting.
Any suggestion besides perth?

Dear guys,

Thanks for your valuable advise. My planning is i'll be going there alone 1st for job hunting. Financially shall be ok in KL as my wife income can recoup all expenses in KL. As for me, I might starting with casual job 1st.
Yeah, agree with all the advise that there shall be huge change in lifestyle. However, when you a have a family, you won't have time clubbing around or shop everywhere as you'll spend most all of your time with the children which this might not happen in malaysia. Why? coz you'll work like hell which you spend most of your time with your boss and colleague more than family.
I've foreseen these 10 years ago and i let pass PR application twice even before the system change.
I stayed in sydney 10 years ago so coming back in malaysia is bad idea but however i managed to meet my wife.
For the sake of education, i don't mind to get my hands dirty for my children.
Most my friends are managers earning 10K/mth. They can't accept my decision either as they're having so many commitments in malaysia with houses and cars.
Well, this is something personal so no offend.
Some people even saying they're always happy hanging in mamak stall but i can tell ya when you're married, you don't really always hanging there. I'm speaking the truth.

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Added on December 5, 2012, 10:43 amMelbourne is considerable but not sydney. Housing price is unbearable.
Well, I'm sticking with my purposes of going australia is to raise my children with quality time with them.
Sydney is a huge city which yeah lots of job opportunities. However, not the type of life i want. If heading there is with KL no difference.

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Added on December 5, 2012, 10:50 amI agreed. You won't learn how to swim if you don't jump into the river.
If really can't find a secured job in period of time, then come back lar. Nothing to lose. PR is just an option and you wont lose everything.
People tend to afraid almost everything without even try. Yes, courage comes 1st, but you'll never know what's ahead of you.
Life is a journey, LIVE IT!


This post has been edited by Nemesis1980: Dec 5 2012, 10:50 AM

I kind of agreed with u too. FIFO may beat the purpose of being there especially heading to kalgoorie or somewhere of nowhere while your family couldn't bring along. Mining shall come to an end in WA coz now more concentrating on Queensland which shall be largest mining the Oz history.
My profession mainly on construction but it'll be big hit too when recession came along and of course it won't lose out too.
Heard that some my friend working in mining kena goreng also who's engineer. Previously they have high pay but not zero income. But still he gained very good experience which i think he won't lose out too as there's plenty of vacancy for him maybe for him to move to Queensland.

Hey, thanks. Your help come in handy.
I managed to contact my friends who's being working as my profession for years. As what he told me tax depreciation is something new to malaysia as this only apply to australia due to their tax is sky high. Suppose this shall be done by accountant or tax officer but they dont hv such knowledge. So this falls to be our baby. Well, i did learn this before during uni but that was 10 yrs ago which doesn't imply in malaysia so don't bother at 1st. Now, i may thinking of taking a course to gain this for me to have better knowledge. Research a few jobs and tax depreciation report can charge around AUD2k to 3k per report. Think about if you assessing 10 report would be 20k - 30k which is good $$.
Saw their sample report which is very easy to do, only need to identify the property value and renovation work attached and submit to tax dept. This shall regain 20-30% tax deduct. Of course some paper works need to be done but i think even SPM leaver can learn also.
Besides that, all the work nature are the same only the software they used and the pricing shall be different which this has to gain from Oz.
Australian experience?yeah i know most employers going to reject some1 with this reason but without a start, where's the australia experience?

Yeah why not? Untill i get AIQS members, shall looking forward for this opportunity.
Not afraid telling you that half of my secondary schoolmates & uni mates migrated australia & new zealand within this 10 years.
Well, i came back alone to malaysia thinking of expanding my contractor business but end up whole company being took over. sigh*
Life ain't easy though and life is short. Foreseen malaysia politics turmoil which unstable. Economy doesnt look good and not progressing. Now the worst is scandals emerge and no one prosecute to date. SG dollar is almost same as NZdollar. RM is getting smaller with huge money laundering within.
I don't mind to pay high tax but i need to see something being done. Yes, i paid thousands tax but i didn't get anything from government but with scandal news flying around.
Malaysia has too many SME business which doesn't contribute too much to our economy.

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Added on December 6, 2012, 1:49 pmwhy thank you for your comment and feedback. i tend to write as simple as i can.
1) Yes i know Perth is experiencing inflation in past few years. Mining has done alot on that.
2) I think job opportunity 1st then only choose which city to settle. Adelaide is good but activity bit slow. Brissy sounds good
3) Oh yah. my broken engrish making me unusual and unique lar i guess. IELTS still manage band 7 lor... (no offend...hehe)


This post has been edited by Nemesis1980: Dec 6 2012, 01:49 PM

I fully agreed. My dad work in sudan O&G. Pay is high but health deteriate. Everyday goat soup and beans. Vegetable very expensive. No fruits.
Going out need mercenaries escort. TV program all Negros. Can't understand language. You got money but dunno where to spend. 2 years cannot tahan then come back

You've read my mind! I like that.
Well, my friend we're not from native english speaking country but we have skills which contribute something to that country.
I mean speaking in different language shall give you bonus. Language can be learn and whatever accent you want to add in, like 1-2 years? But skills is something which might take longer. If you have language but without skills, then you'll have job hunting difficulties. Same goes to language.
Guess what, my housemate was from Chinese school and his english is almost medium low level. Today, he proves something that he's a director in an Oz company in sydney. We shall give a clap to this Johorian guy.

Fully agreed on this, I was in sydney for 2 years and the rental is extremely high. 2 bedroom apartment (non luxurious) at downtown will cost you 550 - 600/week. The rest i think is ok, food & clothing and some IT gadgets it think still reasonable. In the sense of dollar to dollar, I guess if you want to own a house, i think you still can buy a property within 30 km radius to city with 600k to 800k budget.
Compare to malaysia, this is totally different stories. A house could easily shoot up to 2mil to 3mil.

Well, if you're earning Oz dollar, your expenditure power will be high.
As what Annielee said, sometimes the grass isn't greener out there. However, for me, for the sake of children's future and education, i would prefer sacrifice myself on some personal hobbies.
I dunno how many of you here are singles or married. If you're family man, your mind will be different.
If you compare the earnings there, buying a house is not an issue there coz major services and facilities has been 'subsidies' under your paid tax. At least you could see something from your tax but not in malaysia. I paid tax and get nothing here...budget 2013 is totally dissappointing

Well, if you're single, yes, you'll feel lonely everyday. Same situation like me 10 years ago.
But, after i'm working in KL for 10 years, my life was miserable as Malaysia economy performance very bad, inflation and the worst houses and cars need to be loan more than 5 years.
I've been working stressfully for 10 years.
If you intend to come back here, you MUST start your own business / family business. Malaysia is a SME country. Our worker union is weak.
If not, you better stay back.

Are you sure freshies getting 100k?? As far i know the highest freshies can get is averagely 65K - 80K
What industry is that?

Nice!

I was in sydney before. Which suburb are you allocate to? At least i could recommend you some of the places.
I think you should stay near to your workplace, which around 10km radius.
Since you're saying the workplace is a suburb, i think you can get yourself a car which is very cheap there.
Sydney is like KL, sometimes there's traffic everywhere (of course not as serious as KL).

Well my friend, i never go buy groceries in coles. Coles is like 'cold storage' supermarket in KL. Super expensive. You can either shop for grocers in chinatown or BILO which will be far cheaper. Woolworth also not too bad.
Rental of course depends on the suburb. If you're renting in north sydney is like Bangsar & Mont Kiara. Of course the rental is expensive. This is very subjective. That's why i'm asking him where is the workplace. If he bought a car there, then he can seek further place for cheaper rental.
What you're saying is right, sydney is an expensive city to live but that apply to CBD. Some suburb is cheaper than you expect.
I lived in inner west sydney before, which there's lots of asian groceries you can buy. Even you can get bak kut teh (A1), maggi mee, indomie...etc.
No worries bro. , have time you can shop nike warehouse for really cheap original shoes/clothing. I bought 5 pairs nike shoes total less than AUD150 with nice design.
Purchasing property is really expensive in sydney. I think if you're working there hard enough or request promotion or after 2 years getting PR,you can jump ship to other firm for higher pay, i think should be no problem getting a property there.
Don't be surprise by high tax, competitiveness or other discouragement. Believe me, you'll enjoy there.

Well, I think this a good start for yourself. As mentioned by others, your medical coverage is far way important.
80k won't make you rich but think about the future. You'd have extensive working experience prospect in your résumé in future. As long your salary could cover most of your expenses, i think your progression to higher level is expected.

Newington is near Homebush, which is quite near to Olympic park. Plenty of public transport. I think you can easily settle down. Plenty of malls and groceries store around.

This post has been edited by Nemesis1980: Dec 31 2012, 11:01 AM

I missed out my eldest daughter childhood. I worked and stay office till 2nd day for few times just to put food on the table. I always encourage people if you got chance, just give it a shot.
Not to say you're traitor or not love your country. This is very personal decision. Some people do well in their job overseas but some not. It's very depend on your working attitude and character.
I paid tax, nothing benefit here for family of 4 but only miserable life. To find extra cash, either you got strong rich family background with money backup or either you got out selling insurance or MLM. This is the scenario of Malaysia

Well, i heard more crapped stories from malaysia too. Wanna listen?

There's additional which KL don't have. They'll rob you like nobody business. When we're in sydney near Redfern, we actually fight with aborigines for the reason they wanna rob us. 4 of us can't even fight them coz 1 of them is damn huge (2 person size). The other 2 is same size as asian. Well, we managed to escape and report to police. The police told us we've been lucky to stay alive. WTF?!?
Well, wat i can say is sydney you have to stay away from 'The Block' near city centre.
Druggies and drunken people everywhere. Somewhere like chow kit.
We went to Pitt Street during midnite for a drink, wat it used to be beautiful scene during the day, turn to be beggars/homeless scavenging around.
I think others shouldn't be an issue, enjoy the beach and weather.
People wise...hmm...i've yet to overcome any racism there but however, 'mind of your own business' type. If you like KL, this would be the place

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Added on January 3, 2013, 2:02 pmCheck in DIAC website, c wat's ur visa options

This post has been edited by Nemesis1980: Jan 3 2013, 02:02 PM

Avoid Redfern (aborigines, highly dangerous,even you're walking a group of people), Cabramatta (Vietnamese, gangsterism)
I would recommend some areas like Hurstville (Chinese area), Rockdale, Leichardt (Italian) , Stanmore, Petersham etc...
Mostly the accommodation near to train station is always shitty area coz those areas where the druggies/drunken people hanging around as they easily commute to your place by train.
Above are the areas which i found suitable to live in. Nice old classic building at inner west which you'll find many interesting things there.
Hurstville is a nice place where you can get malaysian ingredients even with bak kut teh. Rental is not cheap too...

I have friends who husband & wife are architect in melbourne. However, they decide to move back to Singapore to work. Reason?not sure, as they have a descent job there. I guess they're opening firm in singapore.
My advise is just try to apply for employer sponsorship if there is chance.
Search for recruitment agencies, who knows you might be the lucky one