Anyone has more info of this upcoming launch?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1525827/+2700
here. but its offtopic.

This post has been edited by koopa: Jul 22 2011, 12:39 AM

Today I went there but queue number is far behind. Agent there said hard to get as I am late. noticed 80% name was non bumi reserved. But only 45 units available. anyway will go trial out luck tomorrow.

Tot the launch is tomorrow? Wow so many people already queue? Got no chance liow

I talked to few peopel there. 1st few were staff reserved. The earliest guy queue was Tuesday night #6. Now ~60. Less hope.

Still giving out number??? Wahlau eh .... if they opened second phase maybe got hope la ....

2nd phase will launch in next few months, but confirm tomorrow only 45 units. Agent said price will increase for 2nd phase same design. Only 60 chairs available. Security there will give the number and you writ eyour name attach to the chair. Reserve seat will be taken away if no one there after 6pm tonight.

The big buillt-up is really enticing. Ang Ang, bumi or chinese predominant at the queue?

80% is Chinese name. But agent informed 50% need reserve for bumi unless not enough bumi tomorrow. Then will open for non bumi. Anyway 1/3 minimum must be bumi. I am late at last few queue. If u interested pls bring cheque book tomorrow try your luck

Nowadays still got bumi reserves? I bet you they will release it tomorrom. Still got chance !

I not sure too. Hope so. Actually some of those queue up may buy more than 1.

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Added on July 23, 2011, 3:39 pmAll sold out by now. I was last few non bumi buyer.

This post has been edited by Ang Ang: Jul 23 2011, 03:39 PM

only 40+ units , great design, superlink specs (>22, >75) , somemore on elevated freehold land, no wonder finish so fast....

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Added on July 24, 2011, 9:37 amany word on the next phase? the future designs for the 25 X 85 are also fantastic!!! should open more lor

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Added on July 24, 2011, 9:38 amHow was TTDIs latest launch?

This post has been edited by lifestyle concept: Jul 24 2011, 09:38 AM

The queve system in I&P really sucks, easily subjected to abuse for those who know the insider ppl. Die-die still queve, dun give a damn to those who have sit with their name.

Anyhow, the staff told within half hour all inter unit sapu liao, so still manage to take 1 end-lot :-)

Not within half an hour. Last intermediate was taken after #36 who queue around 1pm. I also have an end unit.

Still got corners?

Alam Impian New Chapter has begun...




BBB!

cool man, thx for sharing! I&P's projects are still BBB always!!!

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Added on July 25, 2011, 12:51 amI&P to launch PENTAS at Alam Impian
posted Jul 23, 2011 6:55 AM by Ah Meng Ang

By Michelle Chan of theedgeproperty.com

Friday, 22 July 2011

KUALA LUMPUR: I&P Group Sdn Bhd will launch its double-storey terraced homes PENTAS at its Alam Impian township in Shah Alam in conjunction with the launch of its Mad About Homes 2011 campaign in Shah Alam this weekend, July 23 and 24.

The first phase of PENTAS comprises 45 units of 2,125 sq ft lot sizes with buils-ups from 3,152 sq ft up to 3,925 sq ft. Land area sizes range from 2,125 sq ft to 4,903 sq ft. These units are valued between RM699,888 and RM1,190,888, with a 7% bumi discount offered.

The modern tropical concept will be translated into double volume foyers and open space designs. Sky roofs will be fitted into each unit.

PENTAS is the first development for Alam Impian's Precinct 2, and the gross development value (GDV) for Phase 1 is around RM34.74 million. Completion is expected to be in July 2013.

Available units in the developers' other projects located in Puchong, Cheras, Klang, Seri Petaling and Bangi will also be promoted during the event.

Phase : A2-03(a) (Pentas)
Property Typ : Double Storey Terrace
Lot Size :25x85
Build Up :3151 to 3925 sq ft

At 2pm All unit SOLD except balance 2 End Units & 2 Corner Units

http://sites.google.com/site/thepeakbukitp...tasatalamimpian

This post has been edited by kh8668: Jul 25 2011, 12:51 AM

great product..
Superb land size
Semi-D built-up with SD design (living attached powder room)
Extreme low density (large linear park and 50ft wide road)
solid cut land
Higher sea level (25 m) than TTDI Alam Impian
High Ceiling (12ft grd and 10.5st 1st floor)
Clay roof tiles
nice facade

It's a value buy...

Wah... Folding gate also given ah? What r d other freebies?

Kudos to I&P Alam Impian but IMHO below are some of I&P's disadvantages.....

The main drawback: Not gated and guarded. TTDI Alam Impian has an arguably hi-tech gated and guarded system with cctvs around its perimeter, card-based access system, constant patrol guards and own police-like patrol car rounding and stationed in the TTDI Alam Impian itself (a lot of ppl thought it is a an actual police car).

Other drawbacks:
1. Not so enticing main entrace and landscape design
2. No private park

Anyway, I&P still a good buy compared to a lot of other developments.

This post has been edited by y2kfirewalker: Jul 25 2011, 07:48 AM

I&P's neighbourhood design is constantly with single entry enabling easy conversion to guarded & gated community. The house designs are almost similar (typical I&P) but nice and longer lasting. Ttdi needs extra niche to compensate their location which is further & nearer to the HTC. Hence the G&G and modern/contemporary design. However both are good buys and compliment each other.

It is not easy to convert a development into gated and guarded due to both internal and external factors. This I know for a fact. In addition, an invidual title development is much more difficult to convert to G&G compared to strate title ones. Thus we should not trust this point given by the developers (and I'm saying this in general). If it is so easy they would have done it from the start. It will be much more difficult once the development is done. Best if it is done from the start.

Note that strata doesn't means is has to be condo. Symphony hills in cyberjaya for example is a landed strata project. Srata makes it a lot easier to convert to G&G. However, Symphony hills is already G&G and very high-tech to begin with.

This post has been edited by y2kfirewalker: Jul 25 2011, 08:48 AM

I&p never bother to satisfy market wants, cos pple q although the product altho it's obvious that the product can be enhance further by providing perimeter fencing and guard house

Alot of developers can fence or gate the landed development them but just not I&P

S. Duty 50%, developer bear 2nd yr under con interest, free spa legal

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Added on July 25, 2011, 9:36 amWell said!

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Added on July 25, 2011, 9:38 amWhere is the HTC? izit alongside with the river?

This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Jul 25 2011, 09:38 AM

Free legal fees on SPA

50% on MOT

Free interest during the second year of the construction

Free guard in the first year


Got a sky roof some more

Ya good design...
The double volume ceiling height void area next to the stairs is great. The small green island divider is cool. However the porch pillars distance of bout 15 ft is too narrow, no gd

U d the staff there btw, haha...Anyway, we queve till 4pm, left only one last end lot available....so, just buy 1st n think later

Anu pictures on the layout?

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Added on July 25, 2011, 11:37 amDo they provide security guard services and build the guard house too? I doubt they will do the perimeter fence though.

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I guess there must a security guard house (as most of the older developments have them), but yeah no perimeter fencing..

I was told by my friend that the developer lawyer asked him to sign consent to make the area as G&G when purchasing the unit ...... if it become G&G ... it is a nice area ....

[quote=y2kfirewalker,Jul 25 2011, 07:40 AM]
Kudos to I&P Alam Impian but IMHO below are some of I&P's disadvantages.....

The main drawback: Not gated and guarded. TTDI Alam Impian has an arguably hi-tech gated and guarded system with cctvs around its perimeter, card-based access system, constant patrol guards and own police-like patrol car rounding and stationed in the TTDI Alam Impian itself (a lot of ppl thought it is a an actual police car).

Biased opinion from Ttdi buyer I am not a buyer....yet!

Other drawbacks:

1. Not so enticing main entrace and landscape design
Are you kidding? It is nice!

2. No private parknot
They have ler... Every phase has. That is I&P's trademark! With a central park & lakes. Ttdi just leveraging

G&G appealing to most people nowadays. But my opinion is Guarded is enough. Monthly maintenance is chreaper. Depends on the community; like my current area we managed to put up the perimeter fence. I live in one of I&P's township. Altheir phases are single entry.

Very nice overall layout and house design! Congrats to those successful buyers. How much is the endlot?

Next phase will be September, after raya (according to sales people), look at the nice designs with the same land (25 X 85), new target ppl


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next one i think


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Btw, just to check are these houses equipped with 3 phase wiring?

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[quote=y2kfirewalker,Jul 25 2011, 07:40 AM]
Other drawbacks:

1. Not so enticing main entrace and landscape design
Are you kidding? It is nice!


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I meant the main entrace after the toll with the word "Alam Impian", which is like school mural. Also the "art" expression in the middle of the roundabouts. I might be wrong in this as "art" is subjective. After all most great artists are not appreciated in their time

Yes I have vested interest in TTDI, so I might be biased.

How do you know I don't own a house in I&P AI? You sure?

AI is so nice that I think it is best to invest in BOTH townships

This post has been edited by y2kfirewalker: Jul 26 2011, 09:35 AM

I heard Aquina lauching twice not able to sold out all ... Is it truth? That's mean G+G cannot beat I&P concept ...

I&P number of houses launched is only 1/3 of the number of houses launched in TTDI. TTDI usually launch around 136 units one go. Only around 40+ of I&P Pentas opened to public right? Also TTDI houses max price is 1.5M whereas I&P only 1.1M. I'm not sure its true or not both developments sold out or not, expecially corner units. Correct me if I'm wrong.

But both developments good la. You can not go wrong buying either. I'm just discussing the advantages and disadvantages of both townships. Congrats to both township buyers!!! IMHO, Alam Impian is THE township to buy buy buy currently.

Next BBB township is C**** C***.

This post has been edited by y2kfirewalker: Jul 26 2011, 09:49 AM

kudos to the both developer. anyway just let alam impian grow fast

You are correct this time I&P 47 went to public. I&P may not able to seel 130 in 1 weekend. Corner facing east is 1.2M. Both places belong to Alam Impian. And agree both are great places.

Future launches

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Added on July 26, 2011, 11:09 amface the truth, the RM/sf build up is clearly much cheaper..
if I&P launches 200 units at one go this time, I am sure 95% will be snapped up by now, I&P still hv 53 waiting list in their hand (some to come but they dun accept anymore), these group of 53 buyers have queued for days but couldn't get any, they "might be" given priority to book for the next Pentas launching
I was at I&P sales office yesterday, saw many home buyers like wake up dream knowing this project, keep making inquiries at the sales counter, I attended to some of the customers (they thought I am one of the SA), just for yr information, there are 4 Chinese guys who is preparing to queue earlier next time, be prepare to queue longer for the next launch

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Added on July 26, 2011, 11:10 am3 phase

This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Jul 26 2011, 11:15 AM


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soon this will hit RM1.0mil mark..kekeke

I know one of I&P main contractor, he told me that for Kinrara, Alam Sari, Alam Impian new projects, they hv to quote RM150/sf for the tender, becoz the material used is better i.e clay roof tiles, heat repellent foil, skim coating, higher ceiling (at least 11'), ABS piping, better porch flooring, imprint skirting and landscaping..
The total nett build up is 3125sf would amount to RM468K, I&P can price their product cheap is bcoz the land cost is cheap. If we take the most current freehold land to count (bout RM60/sf gross = RM100/sf nett), any developer (accept I&P) who now buy an empty land in Alam Impian vicinity and build the similar house would cost them 680K, in order to make at least gross profit of 20%, the selling price would be RM860K
Just ask ourselves, who else except I&P in KV willing to build 85ft length link house in the next 100 yrs??
It's a bargain!

hehe..150psf merely building costs (footing/piling/bricks/cement/tiles/internal infra/wiring only) or including those fittings:
like windows/
doors/
glasses/
water heater/ (if any)
alarm (if any)
/aircond points/
water heater points
/rainwater harvesting system (if any)
/b/ins wardrobe (if any)
/kitchen cabinets (if any)

also do not forget about internal facilities needed to provide. all this costs a lot.

Alam impian land cheap (i am not sure), but if the land is not mortaged to bank, then it should be alright, coz loan interest is a big portion which will eat into developer profits.

This post has been edited by kh8668: Jul 26 2011, 12:10 PM

You are from I&P group? We can be good friends . I am always looking for friends in the construction industry.

This post has been edited by y2kfirewalker: Jul 26 2011, 12:19 PM

Since you have lot of info, do you have any info what will be the price for next launch?

I'm one of them.. mine is more to interior & architecture. Can I be your friend?

MR.UFO-ET, what is the price for the recent end lot? 900k?

Sure can! We can learn from one another ...

Don't forget the land they developed for lakes, parks & miniparks. Wide roads, landscapes etc. My experience with my 3 houses with them was good. They r very respondible developers.....am very impressed

I'm very happy to hear this. Shall look forward to the year end launching.

Am targeting the units facing the lake.....but this may touch a million....huhuhu darn!

I saw the price list. Type B is 900K to 955K. Type C is 1.03M with larger living room and master/bedroom, larger land. Price varies depend on which side the unit facing. Facing South more exp than North. land facing west cheaper than East. Facing padang top up more.
Also some guy told me that 2nd row 5ft higher than 1st row. Upcoming 3rd row another few ft higher. For those who just bought 2nd row back to back will be higher than 1st row.

Gua tikus aje..

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Added on July 26, 2011, 4:06 pmImagine 1235 acres only built 10,000 houses (Includes condos), the landed are considered very limited in supply, I like the low density feel. if for SPS and IOI, they will build easily 15,000-18,000 of residential units

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Added on July 26, 2011, 4:12 pmA lot of buyers overlook the end lot + land, remember the extra land is not ordinary 10th, but fr 15ft-17ft, after details calculation, the end lot price is fr RM89-RM97 / sf, I see this is better buy than intermediate, the extra land has gained RM75/Sf now

This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Jul 26 2011, 04:12 PM

UFO-ET, wah...you must be the "orang dalam" who got the reserved staff unit. Tikus can become tiger wei!

it's norm la 8 units per acre.

kekekeke

some township boosted only 4-6 units per acre. depend on what kind of proeprties you have in the township.

but now hor, developer has to build more units coz land is MAHAL to breakeven.

what?? 150 psf.. can be done arr? i think this cost excluding roadwork,drainage, sewerage, playground

I guess so -- only wet work..kekeke

are u sure 3125 sf is the total nett built up? do you hv the layout plan c/w measurement?

3125sf should be GFA inclusive of carporch area.

The build up is 18255mm x 7620mm = ~60 x 25ft.

sorry... already saw the layout c/w measurement.. the built up abt 60ft x 25 ft for grd and 1st floor excluding car porch area. nett built up should be acceptable.... good buy...

This post has been edited by 12FX: Jul 26 2011, 05:27 PM

wow...mean that car porch area from gated to door/window only got 20ft plus 5ft for backyard?

from the layout you are right....

Big built-up for a 2-storey. 20x65 x 2 is 3000sf. So about right

Ya one of the top 3 key selling points is the 60ft building length (shocking to me), I can only think of USJ Height, Putra The Glades, Mansion Desa Parkcity.
If add in the car porch like TTDI project, then the build up can hit 3400sf
P/s : I still waiting for I&P confirmation whether it is nett, in my opinion it shd be gross build up, b'coz there is bout 7'x10 void area next to the stairs in which must be desired fr the total floor area count..

This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Jul 26 2011, 06:55 PM

at $250psf, this FH landed dev is a much better buy than most of the new condo launches........

It should be nett b/u include car park cover. Anyway the build up match typical 40x80 semi d.

Again 2 different segments is quite hard to compare, I do believe sometimes...
The result in investing the Right condo could be better than investing in right landed
But invest in wrong condo (not abandon) could end up many times worse than buying a wrong landed property (not abandon)
To find a good condo is harder than selecting a good landed project. Too many variables cause great uncertainty
Landed property has greater resistant to recession, 2014-2015 is very shaky

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Added on July 26, 2011, 10:42 pmNett means excluding porch area, infinity pool & patio

This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Jul 26 2011, 10:45 PM

correct....landed prop is a safer bet in 2011. highrise had the bull runs in 2008-2010 but risk is much higher in 2011.

why 2014-2015 is shaky and not earlier? RPGT mebbe reviewed upwards in Oct budget and general election oso around the corner.

Ya of coz landed is safer provided u have the holding power (more cash is needed to invest) becoz this type of property normally rental is lower where else if u choose condo ur rental is a bit higher to cover ur installment but coming back to basic choosing a good property at the right location with a reasonable price is what is all about in this game becoz whether it is condo or landed & oso the right timing factor but as long ur property price appreciate that is what you have been looking for.

lol, homefinder.
my new project (happy garden) waitting u buy ya.

my topic sudah hilang

i will post the new topic and finalist of my new project

y suddenly gone missing maybe too laku liao & u shud be calling yourself blackhorse if ur property unit will appreciate in value to help investor to earn money.

I forsee over supply of condo/service apt will come in by 2013, however the effect on the pricing won't be so immediate, buyers to hold 1 yr shouldn't be a big issue, to hold longer should be a BIG question mark. Pentas price is a "recession" price already..

Actually I felt the same.. because I&P deploy a tactic of selling in small numbers to make their sales look good. Its a marketing tactic to make sure their launching is sold out and well received by buyers. Anyway I do hope to see more of these 25*85* launching.

i just would say value for money instead of saying "recession" price (don't know what is that)..kekeke

This post has been edited by kh8668: Jul 27 2011, 03:03 PM

Like chinese always say 'yat ka pinyi, leong ka jiok'.. good for both parties..

Bro, do you know what is the possibility for this area to become G&G? The developer has any plan?

Individual title has been issued, not possible at all to amalgamate all the titles again. So forget bout the G+G. The lawyer has drafted a letter pertaining to the application for forming a guarded community to be signed by all the house purchaser, this letter will be an appealing ground to get the consent fr the authority to fence up the Taman, not hard brickwall but Anti-climb galvanized steel fence or half brick half steel fence, good enough.

This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Jul 28 2011, 05:57 PM

Was told next few months will be another biggie at 3200++sqf followed by 3400++sqf all 25 x 85...drooling!

Next 110 units 25'x85'

Do u know the price yet?

Based on pass experience dealing with I&P in Bdr Kinrara, the indicative price shd be RM750K

Hope I&P will be continuously launching above 100 units from now on. Want to see Alam Impian grow rapidly and just launching 50 units at a time will take 10 or so more years to reach a liveable township....

If 750k and 100 sf more.that means just increase 10 psf from previous launching ... Still a good buy for next launch.

The 100 unit is which model?

Sure boh, don't make me syiok syiok. Anyway I see a few biggie design also at UFO-ET post.

Design same?

Shd be this one, 3229sf additional 104 sf, cost per sf additional 23K. if I&P charge 50K more, it's still worth buying



so far, I&P has launched 8 phases of link houses which total up to 612 units, remaining 1150 units (estimated) is future launch. So total is around 1700 units of link houses only available in a 1235 acres of freehold land, that's is unbelievable!!
The rest of the land are allocated for medium cost apt, SD, Bungalows, commercial buildings, public amenities like polis station, schools , institute (I heard got 1 international school), recreational park, lake etc

I couldn't recall any Taman which has the lesser link houses (per acre ratio) than I&P Alam Impian, the value sits on the superb low density, my rough estimation 50% of the land is allocated for link houses (+-1700 units), SD & bungalow (+1000 units), which is around 4.5 units / acre of land (gross).

Aquina at ttdi is 24x80 700k vs inp 25x85
Which one is more worth it?
Let's compare workmanship, facade, lOcation

TTDI Aquina - Gated & Guarded


Price : 723,000 / Facing field : 750,000
After discount : 707,000 / facing field : 734,000
Land size : 24' x 80'
Building size : 55'x24'
Gross build up : 2890sf (RM244/sf)
Nett build up : +- 2639 sf (RM268/sf)



I&P Pentas - Guarded


Price : 699,888 / Facing field : 719,888
Land size : 25' x 85'
Building size : 60' x 25'
Gross build up : 3152sf (RM222/sf)
Nett build up : +- 2928sf (RM239/sf)

Workmanship I&P (no experience with Naza TTDI)
Facade draw- both has own appeal
Location I&P
Secured community Naza TTDI
Built-up RMpsf I&P

Is this next phase located close to the lake or near July launched Pentas?

I think next to the lake

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Added on July 29, 2011, 10:21 amPentas
- Clay roof tile
- 1st floor solid timber merbal
- Skim coating
- Plaster ceiling
- 11ft/12ft ceiling height (ground floor)
- 50ft wide road

Aquina
- Concrete roof tile
- 1st floor laminated flooring
- Skim coating
- Plaster ceiling
- 10ft/10.5ft ceiling height (ground floor)
- 40ft wide road

This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Jul 29 2011, 10:21 AM