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 Alam impian Pentas Superlink, I&P new super link July 2011

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jet2020
post Jul 26 2011, 07:46 PM

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at $250psf, this FH landed dev is a much better buy than most of the new condo launches........
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post Jul 27 2011, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jul 26 2011, 10:39 PM)
Again 2 different segments is quite hard to compare, I do believe sometimes...
The result in investing the Right condo could be better than investing in right landed
But invest in wrong condo (not abandon) could end up many times worse than buying a wrong landed property (not abandon)
To find a good condo is harder than selecting a good landed project. Too many variables cause great uncertainty
Landed property has greater resistant to recession, 2014-2015 is very shaky
correct....landed prop is a safer bet in 2011. highrise had the bull runs in 2008-2010 but risk is much higher in 2011.

why 2014-2015 is shaky and not earlier? RPGT mebbe reviewed upwards in Oct budget and general election oso around the corner.
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post Aug 25 2011, 12:54 AM

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25'x85' size is a hidden gem...price less than $250psf is a great buy esp for ownstayers

if got DIBS, i will consider to get one... hmm.gif
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post Sep 16 2011, 08:08 PM

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understand this is 3rd launch for Pentas...any diff with 1st and 2nd other than the pricing? Got DIBS?
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post Sep 18 2011, 09:26 AM

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Went to the site yesterday and my conclusion is IA really ada potensi. Good place for ownstay or investment.....

Pentas 25'x85' will be BBB......if buying, one need to queue on first come first buy basis or get invitation letter and qualify for balloting? views appreciated.
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post Sep 18 2011, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ Sep 18 2011, 09:32 AM)
What I heard last pentas launched before raya was need to register your name on the queue chair on wed morning. This mean next wed morning pls go there register if u interested. Queue on launch date too late.
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tx. register on wed and waiting in queue till launch date or come later during launch date? if the former, then it will b impossible for me to camp there in the queue? don;t understand why I&P not using balloting without burdening the prospects...

got ada way other than camping overnight?
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post Sep 18 2011, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Sep 18 2011, 10:07 AM)
perhaps getting (hiring) someone to queue on your behalf? heard from a buyer that for the first few days should be day time queueing only ..
but would be better to assume that queueing might start before wed just to be safe..
bro, tx for the info.

can pm the hiring contacts for someone that will queue for a fee?

another question - 1 queue number only qualifies for 1 unit..if want to buy 2units, can?
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post Sep 18 2011, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ Sep 18 2011, 12:40 PM)
Hi Jet, there was my observation and understanding of I&P queue based on Pentas previous launch. The staff there will request you to queue after you manage to get a seat number. However, the truth was there was many people did not actually queue, they managed to get back their seat on Sat morning. The fact is your name also will be registered on log book. I&P may want you to come and queue to show that their properties is hot selling. In short, the most important thing for you is to register your name on Wed morning. And came on Sat morning prior 830am. In between the time, you only require to go and chk once a day to make sure nothing chg on your seat.
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tx for the tips....


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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Sep 18 2011, 12:45 PM)
In fact 99% of the new project launch are 1st come 1st basis, I&P never ask us to queue, I disagree with some people blaming the developers too "cruel" asking potential buyers queue like beggar, wat do we expect fr developer? balloting?
It happened in Bdr Kinrara
BK5 4C7 20x70 - 180K (2000) - balloting, some buyers accused developer to defraud or play dirty tricks to call their preferred buyer.
Permai - 380K (2006) - balloting - buyers make noise again
Desiran - 492K (2009) - 1st come 1st basis - Queued 7 days
Sentosa - 462K (2009) - 1st come 1st basis - Queued 11 days (a few late buyers threatening the developer to bring the issue to the Ministry of housing)
Sapphire - 530K (2009) - balloting - buyers make noise again accusing developer scam (tipu)

Note : I know many lucky draw competitions are indeed very dirty.  brows.gif
   
assuming ;
if Pentas intermediate selling price..
1. 1.0 mil - Queue? - of course no
2. 900K - Queue? - of course no
3. 800K - Queue? - may be for special unit like corner / end lot / facing filed
4. 700K - queue 4 days perviously
5. 600K - queue 10 days perhaps

Look at TTDI Alam Impian previous launching, some buyers already queued 4-5 days ahead, my friends wanted to queue also, I say no need as the price isn't attractive, end up after launching day still plenty of units available.

I would say Pentas is like a New Proton Perdana 2.4 litre selling 75K.
I dun like Proton at all but I will buy still  wink.gif
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still the same for me...balloting is better and less hassle for buyers

queuing is good for developer as they will have enuff time to adjust prices depending on the length of the queue...this may not happen to I&P but i know some developers took advantage of it

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post Sep 18 2011, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Sep 18 2011, 01:51 PM)
Many of time developer also dunno there will be a queue, it is very subjective, every house buyer / investor appraise value a property differently, there are also some developers try to goreng theirs' own project by placing false sold stickers, it is not very effective now.
In recent years, buyers are smart enough to judge a property price by many ways...

Balloting is good but not very famous tactics used by developer, if balloting is not successful, then it will tarnish the sale of a certain property. look at I&P BK8 Qaseh launched 2010 Oct in B. Kinrara, there are bout 2000 registrants for the new superlink offer 117 units only, however only less than 40 people turn up for the balloting day, it is very embarrassing during the launch day. The project was stuck since then until lately offer discount to boost up another 10 units, still not encouraging.

The problem is to do with rising in land cost and building material, developer finds harder & harder to build cheap house anymore (I mean landed), developer can only apply balloting system when they are selling 10%-15% lower than mkt value, are they willing to do so??  cool2.gif
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dev used balloting for projects below mkt value...not true lah. DPC and Setia Alam had switched to balloting sometime ago. So far no complaints heard as long as the process is done fairly and in transparency.
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post Sep 21 2011, 12:51 PM

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the SA confirmed there is no launch for Pentas (phase 2) this weekend.
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post Sep 21 2011, 06:14 PM

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there are 5 toilets in each house and powder room will add to the pains and misery to clean up more toilets....

value of courtyard will outweigh powder room

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post Sep 26 2011, 08:18 PM

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i doubt the response will b like the last 2 launches......higher RPGT is looming in the corner to curb rising prop prices


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post Sep 26 2011, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Sep 26 2011, 11:25 PM)
13-15 units of end lot / corner remain unsold
boss, clearly you have done the CSI to arrive at this estimated unsold units..... notworthy.gif




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post Sep 28 2011, 08:58 PM

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i am looking forward to the launch tomorrow. Hope to see all the Pentas taikors there and learn some kungfu..... notworthy.gif
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post Sep 28 2011, 10:25 PM

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when i left IA office at 5.30pm today...only saw few specially hired immigrants queued up

no worries...many units (all sort of directions) to choose tomorrow...i doubt it will b BBB like earlier launch
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post Sep 29 2011, 12:00 PM

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Pentas 2 launch opened at 9am and i arrived at 10am.

bank SAs are more than buyers.....when i left at 10.30am just now, about 20units booked (incl priority booking yesterday). From the booking chart, units closer to lake & park and cheaper type A2 (with courtyard)are the favourites.
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post Sep 29 2011, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Jenn77 @ Sep 29 2011, 12:05 PM)
I think got something to do with the layout design.. internal courtyard very weird + the introduction of the powder room!  sad.gif How much are the smallest endlot selling... I mean the grass land at least 13ft at the side?
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courtyard design weird meh? hmm.gif ...it's individual taste

powder room also included in Pentas 1 and the latter was sapu'ed kering kering

IMO, nothing got to do with the layout....perhaps too early to pre-judge and let's observe in the coming days...undeniably the recent economic uncertainty had an influence on buyers' sentiments


cheapest end lot is 943,888 and taken up liao....
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post Sep 29 2011, 01:06 PM

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pictures are better than thousand words....seeing is believing.

i agreed AI is under valued.....the marketing dept shld step up the communication program like the sister co, SP Setia. I&P is known for generousity to provide more recreational space in its township. This differentiate itself from most devs who wanted to squeeze $$ by maximising building ratio.

If there is a 25x85 sample hse to showcase the 'spaciousness' and quality finishings, Pentas 2 will be gone within 1-2 days.

Heard from lil bird that Tesco is nego with I&P to build hypermart within AI.
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post Sep 29 2011, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(keane04 @ Sep 29 2011, 02:08 PM)
can i know the cheapest unit there for non bumi buyer as of now?
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761,888 for 3088sf (with courtyard)


Added on September 29, 2011, 2:24 pm
QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Sep 29 2011, 12:23 PM)
I'm still thinking whether to take the LO or not....
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you booked the unit facing the lake? if yes and you want to withdraw, pls pm me as my fren is interested.

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post Sep 29 2011, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Sep 29 2011, 04:41 PM)
I have taken my LO just now, my unit is facing the lake.

The taken up rate as 4pm is 27/101 (26.7%)
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congrats....lake facing view will outweigh the heat of afternoon sun...overall a gem.

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