kukulong n jchong?

Jchong owns the previous gen Camry 2.4L if im not mistaken. And i doubt kukulong is a Camry owner.

Mine is the 2007 Camry not the new one.

Yeah, instant FC might have too many variables. Although if you average a few readings (like what you did) those variables are ironed out a bit.

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Added on August 16, 2012, 9:57 am
Plausible enough for a 2l car with 6-speed gearbox.

This post has been edited by jchong: Aug 16 2012, 09:57 AM

Ok, back on topic.

It's tough to recommend anyone buying the new Camry based on the asking prices and the features given.

Buy it if you are after:

Better resale value
Ease of selling the car when its time is up
Good after sales service
If it's the only car brand that has a service center closest to where you are staying
Comfortable and Spacious ride

Don't buy it if you are after:

Good handling and performance
Premium Safety features
Convenience & styling features
5 year or more warranty
Value for money
Latest technological innovation in automotive engineering

http://paultan.org/2012/08/16/pkr-launches...ereta-campaign/

Yes..not an owner of Camry but test drive it before

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Added on August 16, 2012, 7:29 pmIf like tat..we shall see lesser Asian car but more conti car

This post has been edited by kukulong10: Aug 16 2012, 07:29 PM

Nice campaign, but I wonder if P1 and P2 can survive when this happens?

Also how would they handle the AFTA issue, they say lower the tax, but would it be lower the tax until Malaysia abide the AFTA?

Also Not just reduce the tax, I wish there is other thing that need to do as well:

1) Enforce car manufacturer to add all the necessary active/passive safety technology into the car, ESP is a MUST.

2) After reduce the tax, please stop MITI "advice" the car manufacturer for the car selling price, Malaysia is FREE MARKET. So encourage competition among the car manufacturer to give us a well spec car.

Well the opposition couldnt care less about P1 or P2's survival. P1's existance is merely to keep certain ppl's pocket inflated. Abolishing tax is kinda like a win-win situation where rakyat get to enjoy quality cars at more affordable price and at the same time, deflating some ppl's pockets.

But there's always a drawback to everything. Imagine how much more cars will be flooding the streets? I remember 3 years back when I was working near KLCC. Every morning Jalan Ampang will be jammed pack, and I'll take an alternative route ie Jalan Ampang Hilir. Smooth traffic there till I reach AmpWalk.

Last week, I attended a training in KL so I gotta drive through Jalan Ampang. As per 3 years ago, Jalan Ampang is packed with cars. So I thought of taking the alternative route again. Just when I make a turn into that route, I was surprised! Even the alternative route is not spared from being drenched in seas of cars

Imagine in 3 years alone, how many cars have been added onto the malaysian roads. Problem here is, there's no mechanism to control the amount of cars on the road. In other countries, there are policies to scrap cars of certain age to keep things in control. But here? If you implement such thing, I'm sure there will be a public outcry by poor folks crying discrimination against the poor etc etc and some politicians will take opportunity to act hero, jumping out and "championing" the poor's rights, ending up in status quo.

Before I got great hope on this.... after like 7 years already still like this. my hope gone and I continue my life with my lousy car.

yours sincerely
Unker Iluvproton

Yes the Gov gets RM8 billion in car taxes alone per annum. Where has this money gone to?

IMO, lower the price at more affordable price, allow people to more affordable to change new car, allowing more choices, so that most of the people no need to play safe and stick to certain brand and get rip-off.

The thing is our public transport system is bad, forcing us to use car as more convenient transportation method. But our car is overpriced and most people in Malaysia can't afford to buy the car, bank give long period of loan to make people feel they able to buy car financially. But this long term loan also had two consequences, first one since the payment so long, people that always change car will always look for car with good resale value so that can recoup the losses when changing new car, second one is only stick to certain car brand that they thought will give them peace of mind.

This in long term will really affect the automobile industry as discouraging a healthy competition among car manufacturer, and sometimes our vehicle safety as most of the time when car manufacturer slashing the price to stay competitive, they remove certain safety feature as well.

For the old car disposing, i think most of the people will rant also because due to the overpriced car in Malaysia. For other country, people affordable to change new car, so they had no qualms on the old vehicle disposing.

Don't forget, the ministry of treasury also got earn through the AP as well.

Where the money gone too? I also don't know, perhaps each year's Parliament Audit Report can give us hint?

Errr......if this thing become a reality, can we existing car owner who bought car before and still paying loan, do we get refund? If not, may be we should start another campaign asking for refunds.

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Added on August 17, 2012, 6:28 amThat RM8 billion went to subsidy cheap fuel. That is stupid managment. Snart management means cheap car but expensive petrol.

BN is stupid for keeping car price high. PR is stupid for wanting to keep fuel price low. Both are stupid and which goes to show you all politican are idiot.


This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Aug 17 2012, 06:37 AM

If fuel prices were really at market rate, how many people here you think can afford to keep their cars? If cars maintained their ridiculous prices here.

Imagine if 1L of fuel cost like RM3.30 @ Ron95?

Vios full tank = RM138.60 (42 liters)
Civic full tank = RM165.0 (50 liters)
Altis full tank = RM181.5 (55 liters)
Camry full tank = RM231 (70 liters)

That's a week worth of fuel. In one month, it's quite a significant chunk of salary there. So yeah, cars would definitely need to be bloody cheap if they want to do this.

i think nothing will change. if they want to change, it has been implemented. In the end, we as users, still loose. Because the rich will always buy their favourite car.

the poor will always stick to the resale value.

the even poorer could not care less.

in the end, the mid income still suffer. regardless of what ever campaign.

you see, the moment they remove sales or impose duty. they will create a new duty to burden you again, directly or indirectly.

some how they will take your money. in other different ways.
just watch.

The same people wont change. Thats why you need different people to push for change. But at the same time dont expect overnight changes. It takes time to undo 57 years of wrong-doing and poor management.

So tell us, what kind of change would you like to see?

You also have to be realistic that the changes won't 100% be sided to the rakyat. Yes, car prices might come down but something else might go up. Like what is mentioned above, say if car prices come down but petrol goes up (to follow market rate) - is that acceptable to you?

face it, car prices down, less corruption goes up - is that acceptable to you?

What u mean less corruption goes up? Its is less or more?

I think PR if really become our next government, the fist thing not to reduce the car price, but improve our public transport and encourage rakyat to use more public transport, then just start slowly reducing the car price year by year.

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Added on August 17, 2012, 9:43 amWhat are you trying to say??? Car prices up, corruption also skyrocket high during BN time, what say you??

This post has been edited by NissanTeana: Aug 17 2012, 09:43 AM