so which car will you invest in mr cybermaster? do you think this camry be worth every cents ? or will the korean make be better off?
New Toyota Camry 2012, is Really coming now!
New Toyota Camry 2012, is Really coming now!
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Sep 1 2011, 04:04 PM
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so which car will you invest in mr cybermaster? do you think this camry be worth every cents ? or will the korean make be better off?
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Sep 1 2011, 09:56 PM
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i doubt the passat would be any cheaper. VW, price is really premium in malaysia. Unless it is all strip down version. Or else, kind of difficult to meet that expectation. Too many Tan Sri and YAB to feed. Probably VW wont be very much cheaper. I recon the Passat after assembled here would be in the range of 190K or so. not that much cheaper.
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Oct 12 2011, 04:06 PM
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haha, my guess is, Passat 180K, 508 168K, Camry 2.4 170K, thats what i guess
But i guarantee you camry 2012 will not loose sales to 508, 508 will be very niche market. and it takes time for them to built, the car is totally new. Plus 508 is a 1.6 T engine, uncles and aunties dont really know much about 1.6 FI engines, they prefer NA engines. But we are young next generation buyers, FI is important for fuel efficiency, Uncle auntie dont care about fuel prices. They got money. 2.4 and 3.0 is the way to go. Maybe when RON 95 is at 5.90 a litre, in a few years time then the 2.4 and 3.0 engines will not be famous anymore. V6 also. But as you know, there are a lot of rich people in malaysia, So many of them, what is RM 5.90 a liter for petrol. Camry on the other hand has its supporters, mainly from old camry users, especially those still using the older models, They are the ones that will change to this new 2012 camry, Camry 2012, will be in malaysian Shores May 2012, The other car you guys should take a look is Ford Mondeo, i got to say, the next best Passat CC performance competitor, Only it bares the ford badge. The power and torque, nothing like what you get in the japanese market. This post has been edited by sonyman: Oct 12 2011, 04:11 PM |
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Oct 12 2011, 09:35 PM
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yup, no mater what kind of price you sell, many many malaysians will still buy the all new camry, even if it is selling at 185K and above, because thats the best selling car in malaysia, Dont need to think so much when buying a camry. Just buy,
While other cars, you have to think of resale value, maintenance, and also where to find a mechanic when it breaks down in Olak Rempit or Dengkil, 508, will satisfy some market, Mondeo will steal a small group of yuppies, and passat, well, passat is very very german, so it will serve those who dont want to buy a BMW or MERC or Audi. |
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no wonder you going for Optima, better value and better specs.
So Naza service how? got results? |
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Mar 20 2012, 06:06 PM
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wah, all the hype in new camry, we all getting the same old 2.0 here. even the altis has better spec than the camry 2.0 G now. only camry is bigger and probably more comfortable and of course you pay more.
then again , looking at the thailand website. it seems that the focus is on the Camry hybrid rather than the 2.5 and 2.0G versions. they have 3 choices of hybrid. but what ever is it. it is still camry. the best selling car in the world. but maybe now no more. hehe. well hope they increase the price for every model, looking forward to it. Added on March 20, 2012, 6:12 pmhey, just realize something, i thought the current 2.4 has keyless smart entry liau, but this new 2.5G has no smart key entry. NO VAC, or VSC, 2.0G has no reverse sensor? betul kah? i think cannot follow thai spec liau, dont think it is accurate. Unless if it is true, i be damm!,,, toyota memang boleh! This post has been edited by sonyman: Mar 20 2012, 06:12 PM |
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i personally feel the new camry need to increase its price, especially the 2.5V to about 185K, to 190k then hopefully they retain as much as possible, normal 6 speed, dual Vvti, that will be best to uphold the resale value.
very important for camry buyers and current owners. |
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Jun 6 2012, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(kyoshooo @ Jun 6 2012, 08:04 AM) bro, it is uncle enough this car. This car is not meant for you. Why because you are not uncle enough, when you are very uncle next time, u will appreciate this camry very very much, think of this, teana, accord and, camry, all trying their very best to be as uncle as possible, the winner of course is camry. So, are you uncle enough to drive this car? |
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jun 7 2012, 07:49 PM) Sure fanboy hard hard lorh, buy Camry also need to excited kah? The old junk still using 4 speed box and old engine, and lmao, first time hear got ppl say camry is better than 508 and passat. bro i believe most who buy the camry will op for the 2.5 DVVTI, instead of 2.0, UMW already know what the customer will probably buy. Vios > Camry anytime. if a current existing camry owner 2.0G, will not buy back the same 2.0G, cause no difference. The sales expert will tell and persuade u to get the 2.5 instead, plus the 2.0G are for those who had not own a camry before |
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I know why no isofix cause uncle dont carry grandson in their camry, anyway i think mazda is the only jap car that recognise isofix, btw to those who wanna get camry i think it is a nice car especially u are an uncle and auntie, but for younger generation i m sure they will go and try other makes. So here is the deal , stop talking rubbish we discuss like adult here, dont like the car dont buy, if u wanna comment leave nice comments. No one is stupid and no one should be told to shut up,
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Ooops forgot the prius, teana ada kah that us is good conti for sure include them. But u guys use isofix b4? I got. NO children so indont know, u see out of the 2 best selling cars honda and toyota they dont really care about ur safety and always offer less for more money, thats why i dont like about this companies, obviously they r robbing u,
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QUOTE(michspc @ Jun 10 2012, 07:32 AM) anyone doing test drive already? how is the comments for the ride? quietness ? level of comfort ? ride and handling ? high speed floaty or stable ? lane change ? cornering ? braking ? acceleration since new 2.5 comes with ACIS system ? i wanna ask, for my knowledge, anyone know or care to explain what is this ACIS? what does it do? a new kind fuel injection technology? |
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 10 2012, 10:38 AM) ACIS refers to Acoustic Control Induction Engine which uses a single intake air control valve to optimise power and torque to improve fuel efficiency. Not really a new technology. it has this word Acoustic, does it mean using sound wave to control ? induction engine, very new thing to me. i understand force induction, which is turbo or supercharger. does this just simple means using another method to increase power and efficiency of fuel efficiency? ok then, how about Dual VVti, isnt this already control the intake valve? you said not a new tech., who else do you know of has this as well? very interesting old tech here. oh just found out, tech from Lexus, taken from lexus website "Rather like an athlete, an engine performs better when it breathes more deeply. One way to increase the amount of air entering the engine is to optimise the length of the intake manifold. At a certain engine speed, the airflow through the intake manifold increases naturally as a result of physical forces at work in the induction process. The effect is a little like that of a supercharger. Normally, this extra rush of air happens at only one particular engine speed. However, ACIS varies the length of the intake manifold in three stages, so you gain this natural, deep-breathing performance advantage across a broad range of engine revs." looks like a simple system to force more air into the chamber. maybe it has no maintenance required. and cheaply manufactured and better for toyota image. No maintenance car. This post has been edited by sonyman: Jun 10 2012, 12:29 PM |
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all you need is the gomen, make it mandatory, then toyota and the rest got to follow.
gomen not doing anything, so toyota take their opportunity to rip you off lah. |
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biasa lah, ini lah toyota, otherwise i be wondering why they wanna give better specs. Anyhow i didnt end up with any toyota nor honda.
at least i give myself some space for other makes, which are better infact. |
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QUOTE(feelfree @ Jun 12 2012, 06:23 PM) Yes, you are right, that day when I was in the showroom, that 2 persons waiting to get their new Camry, to my surprise, both aren't old, they are quite young, one is a female, maybe around 35years old, the other one is a male also around that age, so I would say people buying Camry not only uncle, but those young fellow also getting it, this is due to the brand image, I believe that most of the Toyota Camry owner, very big chances that they never tested any other brands, just Toyota well everyone is bound to be and auntie and uncle one day. So these ppl choose to be in that status sooner than most of us, you cant argue with them. |
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jun 12 2012, 09:06 PM) Fair enough stix, I think the problem are those customers who just buy without thinking. If you decide to buy a Camry, after having driven all the options, and thus having decided that you like the way a Camry rides most, and that your life isn't worth much, then fine. But just buying it without considering the other cars is... well, not smart. actually bro, u must understand some of these camry buyers, In any case, if sales of the Camry would stop, and UMWs marketing research team finds out it is because of a lack of safety, we would have a Camry 2.0 with VSC and 10 airbags within a few months. Instead however people aren't buying the Prius C, although that one has 7 airbags and VSC. In a B segment car! (Which is how it should be.) I think the only car that allows video while driving is the Land Rover... or something like that. And that's only because the screen can show video to the passenger and satnav to the driver. The driver won't get to see a video. And that's good! It wouldn't have surprised me if Toyota would let drivers watch videos in the Camry, after all Toyota doesn't care about safety in Malaysia. It depends on what is luxury, I think. In terms of a soft ride the Camry should do well, probably also noise isolation will be decent. If luxury for you means an electric panorama sun roof, everything automatic, car parks itself, warns you if you depart the lane, listens to commands (like Siri), is very refined, high end audio system (think Bang & Olufsen in Audis), has an umbrella in the rear door (Skoda Superb and Rolls Royce have that feature), then no, the Camry isn't particularly good. And well, in terms of ride quality of course big Citroens are better too, and they are better at cornering as well. Ps: If I can spend 150k on a car, I should be able to spend a bit more on fuel, no? Especially with the fuel prices in Malaysia (I mean... 1,90? Really? I couldn't care less if my car needs 7 liter or 12 liter, only thing that bothers me is that I need to fill up more often. I'm used to paying so much more...) Otherwise may I suggest the BMW F30 320d. Probably uses less fuel than a Kancil u see, ppl who buy camry are not really blind, firstly they wont know much about cars, so they wont know if a 6 speed is better than 4 speed, All these camry buyers dont want trouble, breaking down on the road, or being laughed or nagged by relatives who thinks that they are right." i told u so, never listen" these ppl also are afraid to put money on other makes because they afraid about uncertainty even tough other makes are literary better these ppl also love to follow other ppl opinion, if 1 say good, 2nd say good, 3 rd say good, then it must be good loh, although other makes are also many times good. these ppl also will say, wah so many ppl buy camry, it must be good lah, if not why so many camry on the road. so only a small active group of us argue about camry this lah, camry that lah, in reality everyone is still buying camry. face it, this will also be another top seller soon, but it may not top the chart, but still a great seller, as time goes by. there will be more other makes, and it will take some time before the other makes will be in same numbers of a camry and the japenese fleet of kiam siap cars. but u do ur part to educate the current and younger generation to choose and use money wisely. think of your life and enjoy ur hard earn money in a more value effective way. like buying a kia. hehe. no heart feelings to new camry owners, u may be one of those like i mentioned above, but you may also be not, as u may have found something u like in your choice. This post has been edited by sonyman: Jun 12 2012, 09:45 PM |
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it is technology, and as cars are traveling faster and faster on today's roads, active safety is very important, some drivers are alert, some are not, but car company cannot compromise a manufacturing process because of a small group of ppl
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Buy volvo
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...e&v=KlEZSa9NOmQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...e&v=KlEZSa9NOmQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...e&v=KlEZSa9NOmQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...e&v=KlEZSa9NOmQ watch this. This post has been edited by sonyman: Jun 15 2012, 02:50 PM |
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