http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/08/16/who-pays-...oor-and-stupid/

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=1414&seriesid=513

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=1572&seriesid=291

Both Camry and Optima got good crash test results from IIHS (not the current overlap test). But the Camry is the US version with a few more safety features than the Malaysian version.

If car price were reduced, you can save say....RM25,000 on a Vios.

If fuel is at non-subsidized RM3.30, that will allow you to buy 7575 liters of expensive fuel or 90,000-km of driving. Where got problem?

Now we often see only the driver in car with no passenger. For these driver, there will be incentive for him to get a Viva instead and mean 113,000-km of driving. Less pollution also. If someone want to drive BMW 7 Series, that is his problem and his money to buy expensive fuel.

And since fuel is at global price, nobody want to smuggle out of Malaysia any more.

So I am all for cheap car and expensive petrol. That is why i say BN and PR are all stupid.

whoah no more unker looking wor!

Well said

For me i hope the PKR win and reduce the car price...... it will be much more fair for all ppl. No more AP where those lazy no contribution ******* get to be paid for every single car import into Malaysia.

politicians will say wat they need to win them votes. Right now, exp cars and fuel are the trending issues. Can even promise m'sia can get olympic gold at rio.

That's why I say it has to be cheap enough if petrol is to follow market prices, imagine if you're paying 2k for car installment and another 1k or so just for petrol, unless you're making like 9k a month, it's going to burn in a huge hole in anyone who is making anything less than 7k.

I don't see how they can remove the excise duty anytime soon, if they do it, it will have to be implemented in stages, probably over a period of 10 years to soften the impact on new car buyers. On top of that, they have to make sure public transportation is good enough to support the general population, something which the government has been dragging its feet for years.

I too think it is not easy. If taxes are being removed overnight, all existing car owner would want tax refund for car already purchased. You think the government have money for that? That is why I think these are just political talk and we all know political talk often don't materialize.

i would like to see more fuel efficient cars, thats the first thing. you can raise the fuel prices, but bring in more fuel efficient cars.

then lower down prices are based on stages. 1.6cc and below, maybe making the B segment eating into proton market. Forcing proton to be better. Perodua, no problem there.

Next move is to tax for emmision standard. , something like england and ireland.

forcing more and more car makers to make it into the tax band.

Next is to impose safety regulation. the standard things like ESC, airbags 6 min, no need to explain the rest.

Great discounts 1.6cc cars for safety, like ford focus anti collision. and volvo s60 ACC and so on.


yada yada, all i can think, something like that.

of course then again, it is a stage by stage thing. not over night stuff, otherwise i be driving my 3 series here and there.

anyway my ideal would be a nice premium cars for the weekend. and a low emmision high millage range transport for daily work.

like i have a insight for daily drive, but weekend and evenings i can take my 3 series out for a spin. but owning something like this, is a burden to me now at this point.

if cars are cheap i buy a few, but it wont mean there are more cars on the road. cause i can only drive 1 cars at 1 time. But of course the condo's will suffer car park space.

I can easily walk to my Renault SC

It doesn't really matter if the opposition will actually change lots of things or not (though it'd be probably good if they did), what is important is that BN realizes they have to actually work for the people.

The tax difference between P1/P2 and the rest is AFAIK not very high, under certain occasions there is none. That means in terms of price P1/P2 are very competitive. They can easily undercut T&H by a lot (or rather T&H make lots of profits).

I think what is important is
1. That car manufacturers can decide on the price themselves. Let them compete with each other. Even with the high taxes proper competition could come up.
2. Tax reductions for clean cars, for cheap cars, for safe cars. i.e. 4 airbags are considered as minimum, every airbag more means a few % lower taxes on the car. Same with ESP, auto braking, lane assist... the more safety features, the lower the taxes. Less than 4 airbags means there is a big penalty. (Same with ESP perhaps.) There is no reason why even a small cheap car shouldn't have all the safety features.
3. To raise fuel prices while lowering the tax rates on cars.
4. Improving the quality of diesel.
5. Every car is subjected to ASEAN NCAP, the tested car HAS to be the lowest spec being sold, should a cheaper version be introduced with fewer safety features the car has to be tested again. The result of the test has to be widely published, every ad has to prominently include this information. Also results and videos have to be shown on TV during the news.
6. Finally slowly reduce taxes.

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Added on August 19, 2012, 12:33 amWhile I wouldn't profit from that (my car was cheap (second hand) but has relatively high FC... my driving style may be promoting high FC though, or the drivetrain isn't suited to my driving style, but hey, the Kangoo feels quite planted, solid and comfortable at 140-150 (with 5 adults on board), only the engine stops it from going faster) I would be for that, yes.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Aug 19 2012, 12:33 AM

This is the reason why we need safer cars on the road in Malaysia today in addition to a total revamp of JPJ:

http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/08/17/who-are-t...-in-the-region/

Lexus 2012 GS250 uses 4GR-FSE which is manufactured since 2003. Problem?

No, because at that price point, you're not just paying for the engine, you're paying for the overall package and the overall package is pretty damn impressive. But this is Asia, and it's hard to overcome the mindset of paying so much money for a Japanese luxury brand over its continental rivals.

You probably didn't get my point.

Haha ok, i get it now.

XV50 uses 2AR-FE which was build in 2008.

Perhaps the engine is updated? Using older engines can be fine, if they are really good, there are no alternatives. I do know though that Toyota does have more modern engines (which they use in the Avensis). Why not replace the 2.0 with the 1.8 that is used in the Avensis? That one has 147 hp too, but saves on tax and perhaps on FC (it is rated at 6.6l/100km for the CVT variant, manual saves 0.1)... at least it is more modern. And replace the gearbox at least with Toyotas CVT that is used in the Avensis. The top model (besides the 2.5) could be the 2.2D with 177 hp. Low FC (5.8l/100km with a 6 speed manual, in the smaller variant the torque converter eats up 0.6l), high performance. Btw., the manual 2.0D... 4.5l/100 km. You can beat Kancils with that

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Aug 20 2012, 02:52 PM

Perhaps?????

So, this is the best engine that Lexus has.

Haha, you know, facelift...

What was updated though was my last post Got fuel figures now for the European engines.