tail a new camry yesterday...the natural brake light is in LED, then the extended brake light at the trunk boot lid is in normal bulb...looks disjointed to me..

1st fact already wrong by miles...S3 on quad core dude, how wud u even wanna pit 4S(duo core) with it?

of course not...if i get to choose, i will drive M6 anytime, but if to own either old M6 or new K5, prolly K5. Conti car definitely nice to drive, but overall package, price, value, korean cars are coming up, no denying that.

i tot bridgestone ?

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Added on July 7, 2012, 10:25 amin contrast, this kinda debate is like chua soi lek vs penang cm lim...hahahaa..

we can hear/read stuffs coz it attracts, first the experts to voice their previously stingy info, then 2nd the interested or potential buyers, or maybe just ppl who wants to survey for frens/relatives...i mean, can see two side of things in here..but of course, not recommended to make judgement base on single forum or thread, but it helps

unless u guys keep calling ppl names and make childish remark, then it is not helping...but providing links to safety test results or other useful links, i think it is useful

i own a K5, but dont bash me as korean fanboy..this is my first korean, previously had like 5~6 jap..and still has 3 jap...

This post has been edited by K5WHITE: Jul 7 2012, 10:27 AM

well, camry is a unker car, uncle57...so by natural instinct, u shud like it..no offense, but wat im trying to say here abt to summarize all the arguments here.. i guess, u read quite a lot since u said u can feel the anger and frust and condemnations...

but i guess, it all boils down to u, firstly, it is ur money...2ndly, wat do u want most from a car?

resale value : non in d segment got good rv, but jap will give u the best, korean yet to prove themselve
handling : conti. Assuming from ur 2.5camry preference, u can afford passat, or 508
reliability, after sales, service : get camry, go ahead. But if u read K5 thread, u can noticed a few owners there has had good experience with the naza kia warranty claims and servicing. Im not sure abt other makers thou..
design and gadgets : upcoming mazda 6 is a beau, but going to be late 2013 launching in msia, and sepc price not firmed. K5 is a head turner, 508 n K5 gadgets are plenty
comfort : teana shud win ur heart here.
fuel consumption : hybrid perhaps?

So, really. It is ur hard earn money. Buy what u want the most. Izzit reliability? then go ahead get the toyota u mentioned. Or izzit handling? So far, conti can give u best feel of handling in this price range, no one else. Or something else. From there, then u choose the COLOUR and SA with best discount/service. Get the test drive, it will give u the best description than all the posts here can add.

For me, i chose K5 simply coz of the design and the real value in the car. Full of gadgets and safety features. At times, i am contemplating. Coz at times, i wish i got a more powerful car, a turbo charged perhaps like passat. But again, after self judgement, i find power is my 2nd criteria. It is down to individuals, no car can perfectly fit a person, but it can be the closest.

regardless of price?

if power is ur main issue, then mondeo is one of top notch in the price bracket. wat? 240hp 340Nm ard 190k sedan D segment? and many features too.

only real let down is the design and servicing

actually, i was about to edit my comment. Yeah, design is subjective. The mondeo could be all rite, so-so. In general not a head turner, but can live with it la.

i sensed sarcasm here

fixed

This post has been edited by K5WHITE: Jul 27 2012, 05:58 PM

that 2.0l is turbocharged dude !! and plenty of features too

u shortlist a few models within ur criteria, ie d-segment size, price and specs before u go for test drives..inspira and optima not in the same segment, how can u ask him to test drive all cars. No point. Having said that, i think he did test drive a few models, passat n 508 if im not mistaken.

haha

and T charge extra for figuring out that VSC causes steering jammed, hence taking it out

This post has been edited by K5WHITE: Aug 2 2012, 10:23 AM

from their investigation, toyota concluded that all their airbag sensors and safety and control systems were fine, and problem comes from tyre pressure.(i just browse through quickly). And owner seems to be not happy or accept the conclusion.

7 years down the road, and still maintain close to 65% of new price. Obscene, considering hilux are meant for rough driving(jungles, construction bumpy roads), and buying 2nd car will incur higher interest than new car.

M'sian ppl just love TOYOTA

say the difference between new car and old car loan interest is 1.1% (3.5-2.4%, roughly). Loan make 9 years, so it will be 9.9%, making the total price difference closer than ever. Plus, new car warranty(since u say repair is headache), why would ppl wanna buy 2nd, instead of getting new?

im not comparing toyota with others, im just comparing a 7years old hilux with a new hilux, which has total price difference ard just ~30%.

7 years !!
u TRUST previous owner of HILUX only drive the car gently ??? have u seen the hilux advertisement, what/where the car suppose to be driven?

cheers

i never buy 2nd car, mind u...not to brag, but i owned a few jap cars, all new...even from my uni time, i bought new kancil rather than 2nd car
im no korean fanboy, but i bought optima for it satisfy most of my requirements, and having said that, resell value is not one of it (main), not everyone looking at rv, same goes for design, features, etc...

just cant make myself buy a 7(or >5) years car.

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Added on August 3, 2012, 10:41 ammaybe because i accident kao kao befre, and sell it like it never happenned..

thats why no trust 2nd car

This post has been edited by K5WHITE: Aug 3 2012, 10:41 AM

K5 got 5 star ncap safety test ratings, meaning it was tested before.

the actual complete car rolled out from factory, is randomly picked by 3rd party lab to test the safety ratings. Same goes to other cars manufacturer.

however, i assume ur point is, unless some actual K5 owner head to head collide with camry, then only u will see whose car is safer...

and then next, K5 collide with accord...then next, accord with camry...and go on before kukulong can come out with a table of "kukulong safest car" of ur own

This post has been edited by K5WHITE: Aug 3 2012, 11:57 AM

haha...no la..i rely on information provided by established test lab/governing body with expertise