QUOTE(jchong @ Jul 19 2012, 10:32 AM)
In his definition of affordability it includes availability of SC.
Yes HIS definition only. New Toyota Camry 2012, is Really coming now!
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Jul 19 2012, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(jchong @ Jul 19 2012, 10:32 AM) In his definition of affordability it includes availability of SC. Yes HIS definition only. |
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Jul 19 2012, 11:24 AM
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I thought it should be convenience or proximity of service instead of affordability in the case of SC?
If I have to travel an hour just to get my car serviced, I would also think twice about buying a VW. Too much hassle |
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Jul 19 2012, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 19 2012, 11:24 AM) I thought it should be convenience or proximity of service instead of affordability in the case of SC? in my case, i have to travel half an hour to get my car serviced If I have to travel an hour just to get my car serviced, I would also think twice about buying a VW. Too much hassle |
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Jul 19 2012, 12:51 PM
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I only have to drive 10 minutes to get my Latio and Toyota serviced.
On the contrary: 1 hour for K5. 2++ hours for VW. This post has been edited by kepalapening: Jul 19 2012, 01:02 PM |
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Jul 19 2012, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(stix @ Jul 19 2012, 12:06 PM) in my case, i have to travel half an hour to get my car serviced Half an hour I can live with.1 hour... maybe but that's stretching it. Beyond that, forget it man! LOL Btw, does your Q5 gearbox jerk a little or judder a little while on the go? I've driven my relative's Q5 and it did that like once or twice, felt like the car going to breakdown or something... then it adjusted itself back with no problems. Problem disappeared after servicing. Nice car to drive, damn comfortable and definitely feel like a bully driving so high, wahahahaha! |
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Jul 19 2012, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(kepalapening @ Jul 19 2012, 12:51 PM) I only have to drive 10 minutes to get my Latio and Toyota serviced. Have you tested your full tank actual mileage? Not the readings but an actual mileage range in 100% city.On the contrary: 1 hour for K5. 2++ hours for VW. |
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Jul 19 2012, 01:17 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 02:05 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 19 2012, 12:58 PM) Half an hour I can live with. no problems with the gearbox so far *touch wood. the ride's pretty high for me since i transited from a low car but i was already used to it after a couple of drives around town. only problem i have now is not having a malaysian map due to it being a gray import from uk 1 hour... maybe but that's stretching it. Beyond that, forget it man! LOL Btw, does your Q5 gearbox jerk a little or judder a little while on the go? I've driven my relative's Q5 and it did that like once or twice, felt like the car going to breakdown or something... then it adjusted itself back with no problems. Problem disappeared after servicing. Nice car to drive, damn comfortable and definitely feel like a bully driving so high, wahahahaha! Added on July 19, 2012, 2:20 pm QUOTE(kepalapening @ Jul 19 2012, 12:51 PM) I only have to drive 10 minutes to get my Latio and Toyota serviced. penang's a small place and it would probably have service centres for most of the marques in the market. the problem is, how efficient are the service centres? i need to bring down my sisters vw all the way down to KL just to fix a stupid airbag issue because they couldn't do it locally.On the contrary: 1 hour for K5. 2++ hours for VW. as for Toyota and Honda, i guess it wouldn't be an issue here since they have a few SC's in town and most of em are pretty big. This post has been edited by stix: Jul 19 2012, 02:21 PM |
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Jul 19 2012, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(stix @ Jul 19 2012, 02:18 PM) penang's a small place and it would probably have service centres for most of the marques in the market. the problem is, how efficient are the service centres? i need to bring down my sisters vw all the way down to KL just to fix a stupid airbag issue because they couldn't do it locally. as for Toyota and Honda, i guess it wouldn't be an issue here since they have a few SC's in town and most of em are pretty big. |
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Jul 19 2012, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(stix @ Jul 19 2012, 02:18 PM) no problems with the gearbox so far *touch wood. the ride's pretty high for me since i transited from a low car but i was already used to it after a couple of drives around town. only problem i have now is not having a malaysian map due to it being a gray import from uk just imagine how much air flowing below ur car with u driving @ 180km/h in such a high car.. Added on July 19, 2012, 2:20 pm penang's a small place and it would probably have service centres for most of the marques in the market. the problem is, how efficient are the service centres? i need to bring down my sisters vw all the way down to KL just to fix a stupid airbag issue because they couldn't do it locally. as for Toyota and Honda, i guess it wouldn't be an issue here since they have a few SC's in town and most of em are pretty big. |
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Jul 19 2012, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 19 2012, 06:24 AM) I thought it should be convenience or proximity of service instead of affordability in the case of SC? VW = 600m from my houseIf I have to travel an hour just to get my car serviced, I would also think twice about buying a VW. Too much hassle QUOTE(stix @ Jul 19 2012, 07:06 AM) in my case, i have to travel half an hour to get my car serviced Audi = dun have in ipohQUOTE(kepalapening @ Jul 19 2012, 07:51 AM) I only have to drive 10 minutes to get my Latio and Toyota serviced. UWM = 100mOn the contrary: 1 hour for K5. 2++ hours for VW. QUOTE(vey99 @ Jul 19 2012, 09:05 AM) BMW = 300m, same like honda coz besideMeciles also beside vw = 600m KIA = 5km, Hyundai = 3km |
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Jul 19 2012, 06:23 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Jul 19 2012, 06:15 PM) VW = 600m from my house Oh man..... luckily there is no Ferrari or Lambo service center near my house...... Audi = dun have in ipoh UWM = 100m BMW = 300m, same like honda coz beside Meciles also beside vw = 600m KIA = 5km, Hyundai = 3km |
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Jul 19 2012, 08:32 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 08:46 PM
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Jul 19 2012, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(stix @ Jul 19 2012, 08:32 PM) hahahaha. a few AP dealers selling these in Penang but only one centre i know of that service these cars. i guess supercars belong in KL Hahaha, in future when I wish to sell any property, I must remember to put in one plus point: near to xxx car service center..... |
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Jul 19 2012, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 19 2012, 01:23 PM) well, if you consider servicing is 1 of main matter = yes.QUOTE(landlily98 @ Jul 19 2012, 02:00 PM) I ask them to open QUOTE(jchong @ Jul 19 2012, 03:46 PM) yes. correct |
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whatever people said in this forum about the new camry, its still a great car. altough its not interesting to look at n lost the wow factor like the xv40 has when it first launched way back in 2007 but it offer more classy n expensive look. its still offer the best in class in terms of NVH, cabin space based on its overall size, yet the most fuel efficient powertrain(2.5V) to date n offer surprisingly good response in performance(2.5V), easy maintainance n reliability. BUT all of these are about to change when the new mazda 6 n new accord enter our market next year.
the new 6 with its SKYAKTIV minded will undercut all of its rival in performance, efficiency, driving dynamic, safety. with its cool concept looking, it sure gonna be a great threat. as the current accord, i think its not as good as the camry in overall only because it lacks the info display, not as appealling looking as the camry, average NVH, quite slow engine response at low rpm, n not many features. i believe the new generation will improve drasticly in those areas. im sure that HM gonna take full advantage of this new camry to get its customers back. 2.5V is still the best buy in terms of overall but only before the new accord n new 6 launch next year with more tech n features. so if u smart enough, u will wait for them next year especially the accord because honda is equally reliable n have similar resale value as toyota. as for the korean, just forget them.the only department that they undercut others are features n design. they still have a lot of work to do to compete in terms of refinement, driving dynamics, n performance. |
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QUOTE(sl65amg @ Jul 20 2012, 12:16 AM) whatever people said in this forum about the new camry, its still a great car. altough its not interesting to look at n lost the wow factor like the xv40 has when it first launched way back in 2007 but it offer more classy n expensive look. its still offer the best in class in terms of NVH, cabin space based on its overall size, yet the most fuel efficient powertrain(2.5V) to date n offer surprisingly good response in performance(2.5V), easy maintainance n reliability. BUT all of these are about to change when the new mazda 6 n new accord enter our market next year. Back in 2008, when the Mazda 6 first launched. I remember talking about how good it was compared to its competition but was skeptical of its resale value. I had also hoped it would gain popularity.the new 6 with its SKYAKTIV minded will undercut all of its rival in performance, efficiency, driving dynamic, safety. with its cool concept looking, it sure gonna be a great threat. as the current accord, i think its not as good as the camry in overall only because it lacks the info display, not as appealling looking as the camry, average NVH, quite slow engine response at low rpm, n not many features. i believe the new generation will improve drasticly in those areas. im sure that HM gonna take full advantage of this new camry to get its customers back. 2.5V is still the best buy in terms of overall but only before the new accord n new 6 launch next year with more tech n features. so if u smart enough, u will wait for them next year especially the accord because honda is equally reliable n have similar resale value as toyota. as for the korean, just forget them.the only department that they undercut others are features n design. they still have a lot of work to do to compete in terms of refinement, driving dynamics, n performance. Fast forward today and checking the top 50 models list for the past 3 years, it consistently has not ranked in the top 50 model list. Even on the road, I actually have seen more KIA Optima K5 combined in the last 2 months than I've seen Mazda 6 over the last 3 years! And that's pathetic! It was a great car, but it lost its chance to make an impact. If Bermaz markets the New Mazda 6 Takeri concept like the way it did with the current gen Mazda 6 then don't hold your breath and expect to see a lot of these cars on the road. Doesn't matter how great it is, you'd still need to make the effort to entice customers since it's not a particularly popular brand. I think Honda has the biggest potential right now to dent the sales of the Toyota Camry. I daresay even KIA, Hyundai and other Euro brands are benefiting at the Camry's expense thanks to its outrageous pricing. |
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