whatever people said in this forum about the new camry, its still a great car. altough its not interesting to look at n lost the wow factor like the xv40 has when it first launched way back in 2007 but it offer more classy n expensive look. its still offer the best in class in terms of NVH, cabin space based on its overall size, yet the most fuel efficient powertrain(2.5V) to date n offer surprisingly good response in performance(2.5V), easy maintainance n reliability. BUT all of these are about to change when the new mazda 6 n new accord enter our market next year.
the new 6 with its SKYAKTIV minded will undercut all of its rival in performance, efficiency, driving dynamic, safety. with its cool concept looking, it sure gonna be a great threat. as the current accord, i think its not as good as the camry in overall only because it lacks the info display, not as appealling looking as the camry, average NVH, quite slow engine response at low rpm, n not many features. i believe the new generation will improve drasticly in those areas. im sure that HM gonna take full advantage of this new camry to get its customers back. 2.5V is still the best buy in terms of overall but only before the new accord n new 6 launch next year with more tech n features. so if u smart enough, u will wait for them next year especially the accord because honda is equally reliable n have similar resale value as toyota. as for the korean, just forget them.the only department that they undercut others are features n design. they still have a lot of work to do to compete in terms of refinement, driving dynamics, n performance.

By ur thoughts about the 2.0,the pick up and handling will be as good as u said before u drive other car in this segment. The vx 40 n 50 power n handling for the 2.0 are just ok and acceptable.nothing better

the 1st conclusion is quite normal but if the rpm reach the readline for every gear.the 2nd conclusion is basically how kia programmed the gearbox shifting pattern when the the +- is use with the stick. the gearbox should only upshift when u reach the redline in any case. if so,then kia is not good at programming their gearbox. the 3rd conclusion,just concidence imo bcause it basically the same manual mode that only differ with the use of paddles or shift.

As for the hp and torque analyse, it quite unlogic on how the power differ when using the gear shifts or paddles. n do take note that korean hp and torque figure is not always true because i've driven the forte, k5, new elantra, n sonata yf n it did'n feel as much performance as the figure said. since then, i did'n believe what figure did the korean put except for the fuel consumption.

why u r not dependent on k5 forums?or got no forums about the malaysia k5? . other carmakers in malaysia like japans' or germans' , i never heard or encounter anything like ur issue. i already read the figure about max hp n torque at what rpm but sadly, it doesn't feel the rush .u think i don't know about mechanical management or about the max figure at what rpm thingy

if perform dyno also, is pointless. of course the figure will be lower that claimed because the figure was actualy measured on the crankshafts not on wheels. that is why when u check out youtube for 'dyno test inside line', most of the cars tested will show lower figure than it claimed. there are rare manufacture that measure the figure from the wheels. the mazda new 'skyactiv' are measured from the wheels. thats why many of the reviewer said the engine offer great performance for a non force-inducted engine n the powertrain also are nominated for the international engine award.although the hp and torque figure are just adequate, the performance is beyond expectation based on the new cx5 that i tested.

of course because its an SUV which is heavy. but if u compare it to its rivals which a non turbo, the performance will show the edge.

how can u say its more powerful than the latest dual vvt-i?the figure shows the maximum hp n torque it can produce at what rpm which cannot get the feel if the low end power not enough oomph.this is important because most toyota engines not offer high revving energy anyway. its unlogic that same cc with more advance tech like acis n dual intake n exhaust side can be less powerful than simple vvti. fyi, i've already went to toyota assembly plant here and i observed the dyno graph on both 2.0 camry n altis dual vvti. the dual vvti hp n torque is higher at any rev range but slighly lower torque compared to single vvti when reaching 3700rpm as well the hp which is higher but slighly lower when reaching 5900rpm. .base on my friend's 2.0 altis, itts quiter n sounds nicer at high rpm. UMW has been stupid of not using this engine on new camry.besides for sure it is more fuel efficient n if the use this powertrain which paired to 7 speed cvt, i think the 2.0 will be equally good as the 2.5.also many people will not say that the new 2.0 camry outdated

bla bla bla.u n ur figures.its not that i totally didnt believe about the maximum figures.its because sometimes,they r useless.take for an example.how come the previous accord 2.4 feel more powerful than the current one which need to word hard on the throttle to get the feel. also the k5 which impressive on figures but feel more sluggish n slow that camry before reaching the maximum point for hp n torque. only the non japanese n non koreans have no doubt about the real power.just straight away compare by looking at the figures.. .the reason that i point out on power below the maximum point is because most of the times, we drive below the point.unlike the force inducted engine which maximum point is much2 lower and very accessible.

my friend's 2011 camry has the knocking engine noise.is it normal n because of the ron 95 fuel?if so,why only japanese cars has that noise?my 01 odyysey and 06 city also has that noise.

2013 accord look promising.so much grown up and mature in overall.much much competitive than before.let the accord and the 6 represent the japanese in our d-segment shootout next year.with the addition of the new ford mondeo with its aston martin face n ecoboost powerplant, aiiyyoo.tkut camry itu byk kalah ooo

anyone know whats the best tyre to replace er33 bridgestone on camry xv40 2.0?don't want to use it again bcause it lose it silence n comfort quite fast n the handling is just average.i still want a comfort n silent biased but can offer good handling.been interested in michelin primacy lc ngr80 bridgestone.need help

the price per piece?

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Added on September 14, 2012, 8:37 pmnow that the ultimately bargain ford focus titanium + sedan has been a reference in this new camry forum also the new upcoming mazda 6 and upcoming accord, i thing it is safe to say that UMW is really bullshitting us. i highlighted 3 of them because fairly they offer exceptional powertrain n handling, while still be trusted brand. sorry to say but i think nowadays, refinement, reliability n durability is not enough in any market worldwide. ford is just slamming our market with tons of features n 1st class powertrain combo with great drivability n ideal efficiency. i bet the new mazda 6 n new mondeo with its aston martin's face will have a price tag close to 200k but i think many would not complain because its a good package. also the new accord. i think the new accord's design is much more acceptable with the great looking interior. which i believe HM gonna improve a lot in term of packaging to take full advantage of our market leader,camry. just giving my opinion

This post has been edited by sl65amg: Sep 14 2012, 08:37 PM

does anyone have compared the built quality of this new ckd camry compared to the cbu of the last gen?because honda's ckd are quite poor in term of built quality compared to cbu.

i guess i know why the xv50 have cheap ass specs.i think its because the toyota assemblers n the team lack experties to assemble the parts.so they decided to not have the features.similar case with recently launched honda jazz hybrid ckd.very poor specs.itu tada ini tada

after 4 month on my new 2.0G camry, there's a 'tik tik tik' sound coming from the engine if operates more than half an hour. some said that its the knocking sound. anyone have xperience that? any ideas on how to prevent the noise?very frustrated with the sound.

nope.xv50 la.as i said.new 4 month old 2.0g

just changed ma