No, but VSC needs EBD to work.

think the diff between the 2 is.. EBD only distribute force differently between front wheels and rear wheels..

but VSC can do different force in any of the wheels... VSC help u steer the car when emergency...

EBD purely helping on reducing the stopping distance...

Not necessarily just front and back, EBD can work on individual wheels as well.

VSC/ESC/ESP incorporates software and sensors and utilizes EBD to achieve stability during emergencies.

I don't think he means it that way. If you really can't afford a car with VSC then so be it la. But it is a feature that should be made standard in this day and age regardless of the type of car a buyer is getting.

So I would rather have the feature than not, that's all.

When the latest generation Camry removed both traction control and vehicle stability control, I found it shocking as they are essentially asking consumers to pay MORE money for less features with the asking price. Even worse when you compare the Camry to all its competitors, the car comes across as a blatant ripoff and utter disrespect to its potential buyers. Long story short, their loss is their competitors gain, I ended up buying a competitor product instead.

If they keep this rubbish up, people will eventually realize the fact that they're been taken for a ride and boycott their products. It might not happen now but 10 to 15 years down the road, a lot can happen.

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Added on July 18, 2012, 1:00 pmwhat u so sure about what u said ? any facts? or just your 2 cents?

This post has been edited by kenlye: Jul 18 2012, 01:00 PM

No doubt VSC is important. Thanks to you guys.

The new Camry 2.5V did came with newer engine, dual VVTi + ACIS, EBD, TRC, etc.

Yes, traction control is not removed. Please check their website. Only VSC is absent.

How does the lacked of one feature makes the new Camry a crap as compared to Kia K5, as some of you guys here said?

Don't forget that the aero-corner design that reduces drag. Remember, KL to Perlis for only RM 60 (I don't care about L/km or km/L). Even some of the people here have doubt on the figure. But, this is the truth.

This post has been edited by kepalapening: Jul 18 2012, 01:07 PM

I got my 2 cents from Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_br...ce_distribution

choice quote from the article....


This post has been edited by dares: Jul 18 2012, 01:06 PM

You should cite a more reputable articles (books/journals/research papers).
Anybody can write anything in Wikipedia.

Will howstuffworks.com work then?

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-driving-...stribution2.htm



WTF am I trying to prove? are people so skeptical as to believe EBD and ESC/VSC is the same thing?

are u sure about the toyota remove TRC also in the latest generation of camry? I thought VSC is absence only...and Do u think the consumers pay more money for less features? Why dont u think they using new 2.5 Dual VVti engine with ACIS and more airbags than before....So i think they raises a few thousand for upgrading from 2.4 to 2.5v from vvti to dual vvti and fom 5 speed to 6 speed n and from 2 airbags to 4 airbags sound reasonable. ....

Dont tell me that dual vvti is a not a new tech or whatsoever...at least it still a improved feature for which the previous generation model not using it....

This post has been edited by michspc: Jul 18 2012, 01:35 PM

No, no Traction control. It's not listed on their spec list. You go check yourself under column safety.

The aero-corner design reduces drag coefficient, which improves mileage. It doesn't do anything to improve safety btw, same story with the engine - 100% all the technology given is to improve your mileage so in this respect, the 2.5V engine is definitely better than 2.4V.

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Jul 18 2012, 01:30 PM

Quote from howstuff works < EBD can then correct the steering by activating one of the rear brakes. For instance, if the car begins to understeer, the inner rear brake is activated to increase the car's rotation. If the car begins to oversteer, the outer rear brake is activated to decrease the car's rotation. The yaw sensor can also be used in conjunction with electronic stability control (ESC) to prevent rollover accidents. >

The website did mentioned traction control.

yes i saw that too


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conclusion..you are trying to prove that k5 is well better then camry..since k5 has all the features?

The website listed TRC under safety features, but their spec list DID NOT put it in.

So it's contradiction actually. But you can always check your owners manual, if it is listed in then you have it loh, otherwise, I'm going to take it as without since the specification did not list it in at all.

i agree with what you said.. they are trying to prove kia k5 is more worth of their money.

I don't drive a K5 btw, LOL. so don't drag me in it.

i did not mention you..jus other people who post in this forum before..
who do not wan VSC if it come with it..but if the new camry doesnt come with it, i can say that camry is still one of the safest the car on the road

Value is very subjective and measured differently by each different individual

In this respect, if you stack the Camry against all its competitors, it will look very very bad because it's as bare as bare can be. It's kind of like brand A phone vs all other brands.

If you consider the Camry based on its size, comfort, NVH, after sales and resale value etc, then it will look much more promising.

At the end of the day, I think it just boils down to how much you like the car to buy it, LOL!