partially agree what you said..just that some people insists that is a must to have VSC to ensure that he had the perfect car

yup..individual preferences...you like it you buy it...simple...

Thats in your head. Im trying to tell you the importance of VSC in answer to your earlier statement that VSC is NOT important. This has nothing to do with Camry or Kia. We're talking about how important VSC is in saving lives. Again read carefully before commenting.

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Added on July 18, 2012, 4:10 pmAgain thats what YOU assumed. All our replies the past few hours were in response to your earlier statement about the non importance of VSC. Thats all. Dont drag the issue about Optima vs Camry here. U didnt even know that i bought an Optima in the first place. Many other cars have VSC as well which includes the Altis, Civic and even the Preve.

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Added on July 18, 2012, 4:12 pmKindly quote the exact statement which indicates this. If not, kindly refrain from telling kiddie stories.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jul 18 2012, 04:17 PM

think of it this way. a 'china' iphone might have more features than the original iphone but is it actually better or has better quality than the real one?

So which aprt of his post do you agree or disagree with? Lets hear it.

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Added on July 18, 2012, 4:20 pmThis was your original question. Nothing to do with Kia or any other brand.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jul 18 2012, 04:20 PM

okay..my fault..the end..

This post has been edited by kukulong10: Jul 18 2012, 04:35 PM

Muahahahaha.... Pity... Is camry safety is worst than K5?

K5 maybe can catch my eyes but never catch my heart

You are right

dude... that is most likely a typo...


btw have u heard of 1 step forward, 2 step backward?
this is what the "new" camry is representing to the general car nuts....

Since you asked, yes, Camry got lower safety ratings compared to the Optima in both frontal and rollover impact assessments by the NHTSA. But do keep in mind, the model tested was the US version with VSC and 10 airbags. Again, this is in response to your query only.

Well, I selected my car based on several criteria and one of them was feature set. But it was not the main point, the most important determining factor was what I was comfortable paying per month over a set period of time followed by driving dynamics, family needs (size, comfort) and finally feature set.

The Koreans were out mainly because... it's Korean. I was not able to overcome my personal bias against Hyundai or KIA.

My first choice was actually the new F30 320d but that changed when I learnt my initial down payment had to be at least in the 120k range if I wanted to keep the amount I was willing to pay each month within my comfort zone and within the 5 year period. I could go with 7 years but I absolutely hated the idea of taking a 7 year loan.

So with the Luxury marques out of the way, it came down to either the new Peugeot 508, The Passat and the new Camry.

The Peugeot 508 was eliminated immediately because of reliability and after sales issue. It might not happen but why put myself in that position of having to worry in the first place?

So it became a toss up between the Camry and the Passat and it was a tough struggle, both are good cars in its own right and both had it set of problems... ultimately, I couldn't stand the feeling of buying a car that made me feel like I was being ripped off and went ahead with the Passat.

Not sure if it answers your question though, LOL!

This part is sufficient to answer most Camry supporters out there. Since your choice came down to between the Camry and VW Passat, i truly believe you've made the right choice. The Passat trumps the Camry in terms of design, specs, handling & performance. Yes it may lose out in terms of resale value after 5-7 years but only wannabe's will talk about resale value in the D segment category since everybody knows D segment cars can never enjoy good resale values similar to some B or C segment makes.

But in US, you can see damn a lot of Camry, Altima, Accord, but you hardly can see a Passat!

well, gimme a volks and toyota, i'd pick volks anytime, anyday lol. enjoy your turbo pal. nothing beats the raw excitement of torque-gasm. there was once i exchanged my car with sister's GTi for a week and i felt reluctant to change back hah.

This post has been edited by stix: Jul 18 2012, 06:36 PM

Me too if I can afford it.

Affordable = price, maintenance and availability of service center.

This post has been edited by kepalapening: Jul 18 2012, 08:14 PM

Then why did you go for the 2.5V Camry since the VW Passat is in the same price range?

I think he is referring to K5.

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Added on July 18, 2012, 8:20 pmSimple. Because there is no service center here.

This post has been edited by kepalapening: Jul 18 2012, 08:20 PM

Aiya! Then nothing to do with affordability la. Just say "I would have gone for a VW myself but since there was no SC here, i had no choice but to go for a Camry'. Easier right instead of talking about affordability?

In his definition of affordability it includes availability of SC.