QUOTE(kadajawi @ Mar 21 2012, 10:47 PM)
Malaysians go after resale value, reliability and image. Those things are great (or perceived to be great) with Toyotas.
The car itself can't compete with the continental competition, even though it is better spec'ed (and generally better) car in Europe (as the Avensis) it does just ok. In America it does great, but I guess mostly because there the Camry comes with all the bells and whistles and safety features (+ very good crash test results) you'd expect AND it is competitively priced. Unfortunately the Malaysian Camry is anything but all of that.
I checked what is possible on the regular Passat, however those features may not be available here, so I admit it is a bit unfair. In other countries the Camry is a better car, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SATcfmH1fY&feature=related (You may want to skip ahead to get all the camera angles)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzKhBHtAV3w&feature=related (How it looks like sitting inside the car)
Thanks bro for all the effort of explaining to me about the controversy. Really appreciate it. Indeed what you had mentioned is unbiased and more rational.
I do understand that BMW 5 and Merc E are not in the same league with Camry..... the reason I compared them was because someone was hoping Mark X to be sold same price as Camry.... LOL..... I do hope that Panamera can be sold as Camry's price, and it will make all other D segments in the market looked like garbage, rite? So using lung tissue to speak rather than using brain tissue is at times very entertaining....
I was just amused by some of the 'talented' replies by others who described Camry as a 'piece of outdated garbage'.... hahahaha! Thus I am very confused, why so many people buying garbage car, not only in Malaysia, but other countries as well?? wheres those brilliant exciting cars (like Mondeo) are so rare on the road.... something is not right here.... either the majority who buy garbage car are mentally not rite, or the minority who knows about cars are errr.....nevermind..... I dunno......
Besides, what's the biggest joke of those know-very-much-about-car people, they keep persuading others to buy car brands which are so rare on the roads, and only god knows whether they will actually buy one themselves with their hard earned money. You may also see certain people keep persuading others to join them pursuing car brands that are still having not so impressive track record, perhaps hoping that in future if anything unwanted event happen to their cars, it will be easier to find victims for group therapy session.....
People, what's wrong of buying a car who provide you comfort ride, reliability, resale value, after sales service, peace of mind etc.... with someone's own money??? not everyone is chasing the best handling car, multilink suspension, double wish bone, turbo, top speed, high speed turning capability..... if these things are so important, please, by all means, go and get a Lambo, Ferrari, or Porsche.... you shouldn't buy a 'family' sedan.
Everyone has his/her priority, no need to condemn others just because they prefer uncle's car/garbage car, rather than joining the clever folks buying Mondeo, K5.....etc
Added on March 22, 2012, 1:47 amQUOTE(jaymansion @ Mar 21 2012, 06:50 PM)
talking about spec....just admit that you are going for the look...and actually the new one kinda look like lexus bro...they admitted that they recycled some unused lexus design to fit in to this model...just wait for the actual launch in malaysia la...the chassis retuned and the gearbox is diff la....'the gearbox features flexible logic for torque converter lock-up that can allow the converter to provide some slip to no slip at all, depending on the situation.'....search online...even the suspension is done up to fit our world best quality road..
..and those of other countries of course....handling aren't the best la but consider one of the better one in class if you search more for the review....definitely better than k5 and sonata lo...korean cars still not that level yet man...just like japanese...still catching up with the german after so long...and if you really know how to test it of course....
i found that many know how to talk but know nuts about car performance...camry is not a car for wow....toyota pass the job to toyota markX....if you check their japanese website....the 2012 version target is to make ppl feeling as bringing their living room to the car...that was their intention...and what most of the camry buyers wanted....
however have to admit that malaysia version is damn low spec....that's why i never look at one...lol....what to do....we are poor country....why are we getting poorer?
QUOTE(jaymansion @ Mar 21 2012, 07:54 PM)
err...dual link suspension = multilink suspension bro....
guess you're talking about torsion beam suspension?
symbol of toyota ma....durability....what's the main advantages of torsion beam suspension?
1.higher durability
2.easier for manufacturer to tune
3.require less room space->contributing more interior space
disadvantages = handling
how to improve?use better quality bars....lol....
multilink suspension advantage = better handling
disadvantages = hard to tune by manufacturer and eating up room space...
if it's so easy to tune Lotus won't be famous for their handling....
however most non performance cars using multilink suspension the are on solid axle...not the independent multilink system...marketing gimmicks....Bro, very well said.... very well said........!!!
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