Hi people out there, I've been worried about this situation long time ago, and I always think of what else I can do to gain weight/ to grow stronger. Anyway today I decided to create a thread here as I know many of you are experienced in fitness topic, and I believe I can start doing something that will help myself after getting advices from you all today.

I'm 18 this year, my height is about 174cm and with 50kg of weight. My weight has never changed after my form 3 year. No idea but no matter how much I eat, I still looked the same.

The worst part is when I take off my cloth, I can see the "bone" both above my chest. It's not only I can see, I can even touch it because it's like just wrapped with a thin skin.

And for my waist, it's only 26"

Ok guys, I think that's what I could think of to describe my situation now. I really keen to learn and know more to change my body shape, but I was always clueless.

So people! Hopefully I can get some guidance and advice here, million thanks!!!

im the same height as u r but i weight 70kg++ ..your bmi is in under weight category bro....

Wow, you are seriously under weight. Eat more supper la!

there key to loss weight is eat less than u burn, so the key for ur case is definitely will be the other way - eat more than u burn to gain weight. but not necessarily EAT MORE la. u can also exercise more. eg, strength training to build muscles. in terms of eating more, u cant just simply eat anything u want. u wan to be healthy then must eat healthy. eat more protein n more weight training?

somone 175cm with only 38 kg . No worry yet

I'll pray for you.

TS, refer to this link. Check & read slowly to any related topic. http://forum.lowyat.net/Bodybuilding&StrengthTraining
Hope this can help you.

not me of course. Search the thread here

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im the same height as u r but i weight 70kg++ ..your bmi is in under weight category bro....

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My BMI is only 16.515..

[quote=rocket_jet,Apr 23 2011, 09:27 AM]
Wow, you are seriously under weight. Eat more supper la!

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But I really don't feel like eating late in the night lolx.. I'm so fulled.. ><

[quote=akinasoul,Apr 23 2011, 09:42 AM]
there key to loss weight is eat less than u burn, so the key for ur case is definitely will be the other way - eat more than u burn to gain weight. but not necessarily EAT MORE la. u can also exercise more. eg, strength training to build muscles. in terms of eating more, u cant just simply eat anything u want. u wan to be healthy then must eat healthy. eat more protein n more weight training?

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Actually how many eggs we have to consume averagely per day?
And hmm.. I guess I've to start going for gymnasium instead of thinking it only.
As for doing gym, anything I need to take note of? Such as what equipment should I go for first.. blabla..?

[quote=wh0cares,Apr 23 2011, 10:00 AM]
somone 175cm with only 38 kg . No worry yet

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I'm worse enough..

TS, refer to this link. Check & read slowly to any related topic. http://forum.lowyat.net/Bodybuilding&StrengthTraining
Hope this can help you.

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Ya been checking the sub-forum these days.. Thanks
I heard one of my friend said that regular and healthy rest hour plays a role too, is it true?
I sleep at around 2-3am and wake up at 12-1pm when I'm not going to school/ work.
Does this affect my growing?

This post has been edited by BATMAN99: Apr 23 2011, 11:13 PM

i feel you TS

coz i still can wear my pant that i buy 4years ago

u fab too much?
how many times u fab when ur schooling time...

i'm 170 and i used to be 48-50kg also...and i tot no matter how also i wont gain weight...
then i started playing badminton around 1 year back...recently i chk i have become 62kg

because everytime after game sure eat supper...so now i have better stamina,more muscle and also more weight

u should go try and play sumthing...see wat suit u

eat more potatoes..

u're under weight,eat more,maybe can take weight gain supplement

u nid to smoke

it make you thinner

take mass gainer! If you eat alot but still thin, means you have alot of hidden fats.

i'm 180cm but only 56-57kg+, aged 27 years old... even though i consumed plenty of food and junks, my weight remain the same figure and never get lighter or heavier until now... maybe my body built for such weight only...

That's good and that is because your body metabolism is slightly higher than average people

no sweat bro, just eat healthy, enough exercise, sleep well, can shit everyday
why worry about weight? just be happy
my weight also same since form 3, 170cm, 47kg

Well i will say dont worry much...i was in your shoes when I was 18...but once i pass 21 - 22, my weight went up...i was very active with basketball, football and etc...and also i was actively eating also. Dont take ur current weight for granted....sometimes it will take time before ur weight shoots up...and when it does, control your food intake.

Constant workout and healthy diet will be a good start.

I like that.

Dude, how is that even possible? Sigh, want some fats? I'll donate some of mine to you.

I wish I could.

How is that even logical? Or is it sarcasm that I am sensing?

don't get ur hopes too high since im 32 now and still haven't go up

I'm very inactive in exercising.. Don't have "gang" for doing it together..
Hope I could get to know friends that can do it together in college later

Yeah I think of that too, but what kind of supplement should I consume? I'm totally new and need advice.

I'll never smoke in my life.


Which kind of mass gainer should I consume? Mind to advice?
Thanks.

eat more breast ckn meat

im sure u ll grow fine!

im also around 173-175cm but i weight 65kg
i eat a lot,during dinner time,i always eat at restaurant
chicken rice cant satisfy me then i order western food

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So gud to have so height 180 cm haiz..but u too skinny
Same with me la eat wat also same cannot grow weight..alway look slim

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Added on April 25, 2011, 10:59 pmTake Gnc Ampified body mass really got help me increase some body weight
I gain several gram..but u nid to go gym after u take

This post has been edited by derrick-c: Apr 25 2011, 10:59 PM

several GRAM?
actually how long is the time we are supposed to spend each time we enter the gymnasium room? 1 hour? or 2?

1 to 2 hours depends on your workout and resting time.

u mean few kg is it? if few gram only not worth to buy the product already

should I consume weight gainer or protein thingy arh?

Do you look skinny? May be you have a low bone mass?

We instinctively think that eating more means more weight. But this assumption may not always hold true.

All of us have a different metabolism that is determined by your DNA which programs how much food is to be taken into the body.

Therefore, no matter how much a person eats if the body is not taking in the nutrients that it's not going to make the body cells grow.

Exercise may help to increase your body's biological metabolism which helps you gain weight (e.g., cells needing growth to maintain homeostasis)

Try different methods to lift your weight

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Added on April 26, 2011, 9:39 pmIf your body doesn't obsorb them, it doesn't help.

You don't need to worry about gaining weight - lower weight saves you from many common diseases.

Don't worry as long as it doesn't affect your lifestyle. And play more sports okay?

This post has been edited by Angela Lee: Apr 26 2011, 09:39 PM

ts take protein and workout!

kinda dangerous to take alot of protein since it will lower calcium in your body and increase risk of osteoporosis.

Beware ya

I have lower the intake of meat, egg and milk product

Absolutely. Taking a lot of protein is not an equivalent of gaining more weight.

There are some genetic predeposition that affects how muscle and bone mass.

I do not recommend taking a lot of protein to gain weight, which may increase the risk of cancer.

How does it increase the risk of cancer?

There are many medical theories relating to this discussion. I won't get into details.

It would be better for you to explore these discussions and make an evaluation yourself.

Google: "Protein AND cancer". But be aware that there are different views about this depending what theories are applied.

Having said that, only "Taking a lot" would worry you.

Good luck

not the full story though....




beware ya of what you are following.....

im 168cm, used to be 50kg and thought will never increase weight again..but im now 65kg and aiming for 75kg..

just eat alot, listen ALOT, and eat every 3 hours even if u're not hungry, drink more milk and eat more meat..definitely will increase weight =D

The weight is nothing.
Maintain your health and gain better body shape are more important.

If you're 180cm and have 80KG, you're healthy? It can be YES and can be NO. Take an example,
A male with a big tummy(like pregnant) and "taufu" muscles(aka Fat) around the body. He's 180cm and 80KG. Does this count healthy?

all too true bro. thats why health is more important than u look skinny

I know that body image is socially important and can affect how people look at you.
However, if people get close to you and befriend you because you are good looking, it is really a true friendship? or true relationship?
I find my true myself through realising about who I really am, not for how I look.
What is more important is to look ahead because life is so short

enjoy every second of it!

Angela Lee:

I don't see how in any way protein contributes to cancer. Not at all. If you're talking red meat being associated with colon cancer then yes. But up to today, I haven't read in any medical book that lists high protein diet as a risk factor for cancer.

So no, the onus is not on me to search for proof because I think what you're spewing is crap.

I'd happily eat my words (and my hat) if you can point me to a reputable peer review journal that supports this finding you claim to be true.

IMHO, you need more self esteem than weight.
Well anyways, I'm in the same boat as you under weight.
Trust me when I tell you aren't eating much, if you eat 2000 calories every 4 hours (assumption) it won't be as effective as eating 500 calories every hour.
Try eating every 1-2 hours, hit the gym do some overall muscle workouts such as Squats, Deadlifts, Bench press, Pull-up, Chin-up, Leg Press. While your at that, invest some money into mass gainer or weight gainer. I'd suggest mass gainer.
With strict discipline and proper rest, you'll grow in no time.

If you don't believe what I say then why bother asking me? You should have been a bit nicer.
It is your life after all so you can choose do whatever you want.
Find the journals yourself.

You situation is better than me already.....
I am about 1.8m but with only about 44kg......
very under-weight...
I do eat some chocolate sometime(don't worry,I not spam eat the chocolate).But my weight still unchange...

However,I was wondering about something.
My mother told me that she was so thin as now I am when she is adult...

Have you seen a doctor about your condition? Because this is quite an underweight.

There is a very rare medical condition in which no matter how much food has been consumed the person's weight remains unchanged.

Don't be sarcastic.
Your statement & info might lead misunderstanding to other forum members. Give a supporting details then people will learn from it.

Take protein = Take exercise/workout.

Nop yet,but soon.
Anyway,everyday morning,just drink a cup of Milo,do this contribute to underweight?

Sure.

There are many classifications of proteins in medicine. The things being said about red meat leading to cancer is a misconception. Most people tend to relate red meat=bad (another misconception).

Because you would need to examine what the cow/pig eat in their diet (the origin of the meat source). If the cow eat grass all their life, then the risk of cancer associated with protein is significantly less (or close to none) because the protein has a different chemical composition. Different kinds of proteins serve different functions in the body.

However, It is not good to take too much protein by thinking doing a lot of exercise/workout will help you build muscles (another misconception) and then neglect the other associating risk of chronic illnesses. That's why the key word is "too much".

The body is not designed to take up "too much" of anything - basically too much protein makes digestion more difficult. Then your body would spend a lot of energy digesting the protein you consume and the chemicals that are used for digesting the proteins would be "low" which is also important for digesting the fatty layer of the cancer cells - making immune cells unable to penetrate those cells to destroy them. Some proteins also act as a perfect environment for cancer cell growth and division.

One have to be careful. The key is the maintaining the homeostasis of the body - too much of something disrupts it. As with any chronic illnesses, disruption of homeostasis in a long term leads to certain pathologies (e.g., cancer, disease of the bones).

Just think of the body as a whole not as an individual organ.

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Added on May 2, 2011, 11:49 amYou should see the doctor about your condition poor guy. Milo won't make you underweight.
Was it like that since you were born, or has it happened just recently?

This post has been edited by Angela Lee: May 2 2011, 11:49 AM

Actually,it did not happened suddenly,maybe I should sad:The rate of weight increase per year is low

If you are still growing, your weight should go up steadily.
Otherwise your weight won't change that much.
Most people have trouble losing weight; I guess you are a lucky one having difficulty gaining weight
You just need to make sure that your body has enough energy to keep you going, then you should do fine

Perhaps,as you say,I am the lucky one who having difficulty gaining weight...
But anyway,do you have any idea on gaining weight?

hmmm, if weight aren't increasing, check if you have apetite. If your apetite is big and yet no weight gain and you gobble down a lot of food, then you might have tape worm or your metabolism could be very high.

go see doctor laa...u got problem looo...

There are no easy methods to gain or lose weight you know.
The body doesn't change simply as we wish!
An only successful method which I have witnessed is to do regular exercise and eat well.
But this can take up to 6 months to change. The body tends to "want" to get bigger and stronger when you exercise.
Your food intake will be naturally higher as well. Have you tried doing regular exercise?

Could you please don't type the worm?Everytime I saw this word,I will vomit......

perhaps

exercise?Well,before SPM,everyday I cycle to school(about 1km far) and back to home,then cycle to tuition(about 2km far)
Now,after SPM,just do some warm out about 10min everyday,sometime just joging....

2Km cycling is a good start so why don't you keep up with your cycling habits?

anyway,do exercise can contribute?

This post has been edited by leaderfrontier: May 2 2011, 02:09 PM

Certainly!! It helps a lot. Because your muscle cells need to acquire the energy to function for a greater demand through your physical activity.

Physical activity is the only direct way to help you gain muscle and body mass, but of course, this has to accompany proper diet and nutrition (e.g., good protein) :-) it makes you good looking!

Oic,I get the point,thanks.
Anyway,just now I forgot to ask something


Affected?Do it mean more energy is consumed?
What is the symptoms(sorry as I don't know which word is more suitable)

You can think of metabolism as the rate of conversion of your food into energy.
This means that if your metabolism is higher, you foods can be converted into energy faster.

Physical activity does affect and in fact increases your rate of metabolism.
As a result you are more likely to increase your uptake of food.
This significant increase in uptake of food leads to ability to cope with even greater demands (e.g., more intense activities).
As a result, your body mass will increase naturally in order to cope with eternal demands.
Therefore, your weight will increase gradually.
This is the healthiest way to gain weight You will look beautiful ! Remember to eat vegetables okay?!

Oic,Exercise?Well
20 to 30 min each time,2 to 3 time a week right?

Sounds good to me
Rather than limiting yourself to quantity of exercise, try to do aerobic exercise:
One that makes both your respiratory and cardiovascular systems work.
So that your heart muscles and every muscle of your body can all work together!

However, the higher quality exercise belongs to the Anaerobic exercises (so-called intense training),
which helps you build endurance of your body organs and condition your body to very good shape.

My recommendation is doing basketball team sport, soccer, or things like that if you go down that road.
Trying to have some fun. Sweating indicates that your body has really done some good work!

Having said that, start slowly and don't rush! Then you will look healthy and plump
Hope to you getting started

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Added on May 2, 2011, 8:09 pmTo add, you really want heart to be beating to at about 130 - 150 beats per minute.
You can really feel the energy when you are up there

This post has been edited by Angela Lee: May 2 2011, 08:09 PM

perhaps~~
will get start soon
Thanks~~

You can do it!

Thanks~

Oh wow. Whey protein has near 100% BV and is the most easily digested protein. In fact, a trial of whey-protein based formula can be used to manage cow's milk protein intolerance in infants. So no, 'too much protein' does not make 'digestion more difficult'.

Fatty layer of cancer cells? Immune cells unable to penetrate and destroy them? I don't think you have a basic understanding of the pathogenesis of cancer and cancer immunology. I'll educate you with a simplistic take. Most cells becoming 'malignant' destroy themselves. When these fail safe mechanisms fail, it proceeds to proliferate unchecked, picking up errors and transforming into 'cancer'. These 'cancer' cells lack the MHC I molecule which is detected by NK Cells. Your immune system takes most of these cancer cells down.

Also, just a final nail in the coffin perhaps, protein is much less implicated in the 'oxidative damage theory' when compared to carbohydrates. It was postulated that carbohydrate restriction resulted in longer lifespan in mice (read: subjects in biogerontology), possibly due to less oxidative damage. In fact, high protein low carb diets were shown to result in a longer lifespan in these experimental models.

I guess such knowledge is not expected of you because after all this is the internet. People are free to say whatever they want and believe it to be the truth. Just because it sounds logical doesn't mean it is true.

It seems like you have done some research. That's a good start. But I cannot quite follow your refuting argument of why "too much protein makes digestion more difficult". You also appear to equate all proteins as equivalent to whey-protein and you are overprotective of your lovely whey-protein. Your inclusion of purely whey-protein research biases the understanding of cancer etiology.

Your facts presented here are ignorant of other oncology theories posing a very narrow view of medical oncology. You have completed failed to link these facts together but by throwing in a few medical jargons just to make it rhyme?

As you yourself have declared, your understanding is in fact very simplistic

Plainly because I do not see how protein consumption increases the risk of cancer. And I don't need to research, this is knowledge that I already have and understand well enough.

I've never heard 'reduce your protein intake' as part of an oncology recommendation. In fact, if anything you should up it to prevent malnutrition because of the increased metabolic rate.

So I put it to you then, please educate me as to how protein consumption increases the risk of cancer? Mind you, your previous understanding of how the immune system works against cancer cells is wrong on all counts.

I'm happy to learn if you have something new to teach. Really. And please, back it up with a source. I can easily source mine if you need it.

Hey why don't you open up a separate discussion on protein?
And then we go from there
This is about gaining weight after all

1.) Check with your doctor. If your doctor recommends working out and exercise,

2.) go to a nearest gym. Enquire about improving your body to a trainer inside. He/she will give you advice on nutrition and workout procedures.

Fair recommendation How about seeing a dietitian as well?

I categorize Chocolate as junk food in my nutrition.
Please take healthy food and read more articles regarding healthy nutrition.

No need to see a dietician first if there is no eating disorders.

Just head to a normal clinic and get a doctor's advice. If he/she says ok on weight training, then ask around in a gym. Find a trainer there for further advice.

So you believe that dietitian is only for eating disorders?

Guys I went to the gymnasium 2 days ago, and for the very first time.. I spent 1 hour and 15 minutes there.. Seriously I can't continue any further that day because I was totally EXHAUSTED!

I need advice from you guys about eating habit before and after gymnasium session.. Should I consume before/ after gym? And the amount/ type of food to be consumed.

I'll go there again either on tmr or the next day after tmr, trying to make a good practice of going there at least twice per week.

Now my weight is 48kg when I measured in the gymnasium, hope it'll get better after 1 to 2 months

I see some of you suggesting to eat every 2/ 3 hours, but.. for my case, I eat only when I am hungry, that means I don't even eat regularly. For example, sometimes my dinner can delay even til 9pm+ and I seldom eat breakfast. Is this one of the main factor that cause me being so light and thin?

If you ask me to eat every 2/ 3 hours, I think I'll be quite difficult to do it. And, what to eat??

As for the mass/ weight gainer thingy, I think I'll not invest in it so soon first.. Maybe after sometime when I'm really consistent in going to the gym and are determined in mass gaining.. What do you guys think?

This post has been edited by BATMAN99: May 5 2011, 09:45 PM

Well done for doing that. Keep your good work!
You should eat little before you exercise; otherwise you will feel very sick and you won't be able to focus your energy properly.
The best is to learn about Olympic athlete's diet. They train hard but don't eat much before any training.
Eat the most during breakfast, less at lunch, and the least at night.
Three months later, your body will be in good shape

No, I belief is a metabolism problem

eat...sleep...wake up ...eat and sleep..

eat alot of rice during dinner maybe will gain alot weight..

bad suggestion. No explanation needed.

Went to the gymnasium for the second time today..

Things worked fine but now, whenever I straighten my left forearm, I can feel it's quite painful..

Is that because of I'm still new to exercises and "muscle stretching"? And when I press the muscle, it's a bit hard compared to the right forearm.

And guys, I still need advices from you guys about eating habit hours before and after entering the gymnasium..

I heard one of my friend saying that eating banana before entering would help, any comment?

Thanks

That's excellent. When you feel pain in the arm, I think it means that your arms have been exhausted.
In order for your cells to cope with this demand, your cells will be programmed to increase its size to cope with higher level of physical demands (i.e., your physical activity). Keep going with the exercise.

Eating banana before entering gym sounds good.

Hey buddy! It's good to hear that you started gym. It's one step to gaining mass although it's kinda hypocrite of me to say that since I stopped going to gym for some time. Anyways, I think I have sorta the same problem as you cause since I was around form 4 or so.. I have retained my weight at around 60-65 kg. Now it is around 63-64 kg and I'm around 177cm.

In growing, it varies for each person as the energy spent daily is different. It depends on your lifestyle. For me, I have a very sporty lifestyle so I spent more energy. It also depends on your metabolism rate. How fast your body turns food into energy.

Basically, based on my experince, to gain weight, get exercising and eat a lot! I'm not sure about your metabolism rate but for me, since I have a high metabolism rate, I seldom worry about the fats (you won't wanna have a big belly). If you have a slower metabolism rate, get some exercise to burn the fats or watch your fat intake.

Another thing, (although I'm not very sure with this, I heard it somewhere..) eat slow-acting carbs at night before bed. The person said that this will provide the food for your stomach to digest cause during sleep there are still juices flowing in your stomach and if you don't let it digest something, it will burn some of your mass. Not really sure about this but it was what I was told.

As for gym and the "when I press the muscle, it's a bit hard compared to the right forearm" thingy, that's just you feeling the pump. When you're doing gym and you hit hard on your muscle, blood flow will increase in that area (there are more scientific way of explaining it but I guess you can just google it ) making it harder. It's a good feeling by the way and it means you're working that muscle well. The reason why you feel more pump on your left is maybe because your right arm is stronger so I'm probably guessing that you're a righty?

By the way, I hope this helps and if anything I said was incorrect, do tell me. You can't be correct all the time Cheers buddy and I wish you all the best. Going to hit the gym hard soon to myself.

Hi guys, I'm going to the gym for the 4th time this Saturday.

Hmm, a question to ask.. Can I work on other equipment while I haven't complete the current's set?

Let's say I'm planning to do standing arm curl for 15 reps each set, for 4 sets.

After I finished the second set, can I go for another equipment then come back after? Or I must finish 4 sets of 15 reps on standing arm curl only go for the others?

It depends. Usually people tend to complete an exercise first before moving on,, but you can superset it. Meaning two exercise, no rest in between. Example, Bicep curl 15 reps, and then straight to tricep extension 15 reps. Then 30-60 seconds rest before doing it again.

But I was like doing A then B, then C and D, after that gets back to A again and the cycle goes on.
Can we do that? o_o

no, finish ur sets before moving on. else your routine would just be a big messy pile with u moving around with no directions. if you're doing supersets, then do the supersets and move on. dont 'plan' a superset on the fly.

What does it meant by superset? Sorry I'm a newbie..
I can't really finish my sets in one go without jumping over others.. Because I've no energy to lift already.. My muscle will be like shaking..

well thats the point aint it? either reduce your sets or reduce your weights. but stick to the routine.

Heylow all sifu here,


I'm an ordinary college student, Weight 53kg, 175cm height, 19 years old.

I was born as fat baby, but getting thinner and thinner as age grows. Recently I moving to a new condo and it has awesome GYM facilities. Plus this whole semester is pretty "senang" as only few subjects to cover.

Now I have time, nice GYM, mamak stall, McD nearby. I want to gain muscle and weight ?

But how to start ?

head over to the BB section, and read the stickies. good luck.

Sry TS borrow your thread.
Im almost the same condition with TS.
Tall and thin.

Im 179cm on 52kg.
Anyone can give me some idea or guide on how to put on weight.
From what I heard from my gym friend, he said I need to eat alot and don't start gym 1st until I reached my desired weight.

Is that true ?

This post has been edited by Vengeance_Mad: May 19 2011, 07:39 PM