W00t!! Mechanical Keyboard Club v2!
Special Thanks and Credits To Moogle Stilzkin for Creating The Mechanical Keyboard Club.

First Thread V1:


Anyone that wished to learn about Mechanical Keyboard can head over to The Ultimate Mechanical Keyboard Guide

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Note : All Credits(Everything Including Picture) In This Part Belongs To List Of Users On Below
Credit:
Original Guide Created by Manyak on OCN
Frequent Update on Original Guide by Tator Tot on OCN
Alps Section thanks to ch_123 on OCN
Pictures of Switches in action are thanks to Lethal Squirrel on Geekhack
Pictures of Keycaps thanks to Ripster on OCN & Geekhack
Source : http://www.overclock.net/keyboards/491752-mechanical-keyboard-guide.html

Some of you guys might interested to know what's the difference between a membrane keyboard and a mechanical keyboard, well, the most important part that is easily noticeable would be the key switch. I'll provide some Image for better explanation, since they are better and easier to understand.

Membrane Keyboard Switches(Information taken from Wikipedia Membrane Keyboard)
Mostly Consist of 2 Types, One Rubber Dome And the other Scissor Switch.
Dome-switch

_{Dome switch keyboards are a hybrid of flat-panel membrane and mechanical keyboards. They bring two circuit board traces together under a rubber or silicone keypad using either metal "dome" switches or polyester formed domes. The metal dome switches are formed pieces of stainless steel that, when compressed, give the user a crisp, positive tactile feedback. These metal types of dome switches are very common, are usually reliable to over 5 million cycles, and can be plated in either nickel, silver or gold. The rubber dome switches, most commonly referred to as polydomes, are formed polyester domes where the inside bubble is coated in graphite. While polydomes are typically cheaper than metal domes, they lack the crisp snap of the metal domes, and usually have a lower life specification. Polydomes are considered very quiet, but purists tend to find them "mushy" because the collapsing dome does not provide as much positive response as metal domes. For either metal or polydomes, when a key is pressed, it collapses the dome, which connects the two circuit traces and completes the connection to enter the character. The pattern on the PC board is often gold-plated.}

Dome-switch in Action

_{Both are common switch technologies used in mass market keyboards today. This type of switch technology happens to be most commonly used in handheld controllers, mobile phones, automotive, consumer electronics and medical devices. Dome switch keyboards are also called direct-switch keyboards.}

Scissor-switch

_{A special case of the computer keyboard dome-switch is the scissor-switch. The keys are attached to the keyboard via two plastic pieces that interlock in a "scissor"-like fashion, and snap to the keyboard and the key. It still uses rubber domes, but a special plastic 'scissors' mechanism links the keycap to a plunger that depresses the rubber dome with a much shorter travel than the typical rubber dome keyboard. Typically scissor-switch keyboards also employ 3-layer membranes as the electrical component of the switch. These stabilizing scissor-like devices extend the lifespan of the membrane to as much as 10 million keystrokes. They also usually have a shorter total key travel distance (2 mm instead of 3.5 – 4 mm for standard dome-switch keyswitches). This type of keyswitch is often found on the built-in keyboards on laptops and keyboards marketed as 'low-profile'. These keyboards are generally quiet and the keys require little force to press.}

Scissor-switch in Action

_{Scissor-switch keyboards are typically slightly more expensive. They are harder to clean (due to the limited movement of the keys and their multiple attachment points) but also less likely to get debris in them as the gaps between the keys are often less (as there is no need for extra room to allow for the 'wiggle' in the key as you would find on a membrane keyboard).}

Mechanical Keyboard Switches
Introduction - A Switch is Not "Just a Switch"

<sub>Many people ask for recommendations about switches without knowing exactly what they are looking for, but instead only with an idea of what their needs are. Fortunately, this is not always a problem because most mechanical switches will always feel nicer than rubber domes. However, the final choice is very important because a switch is not just a switch; it is the heart of what makes your keyboard have its feel and your personal tastes can make or break a keyboard for your uses. If you don't like the switch when you type on it, most likely, you won't ever like the keyboard.

Switches are generally rated by force using the weight measurement of Grams (g). Although force is more accurately described using Centinewtons (cN) However, 1g of weight applies about 1cN of downward force, so we can use "55g" when describing a 55cN-rated switch because that is sometimes easier to understand. For this fact; we'll use Grams as a measurement of force; though either term is correct.</sub>

Cherry MX Black Switches

Type: Linear Switch
Link: Datasheet
Tactile: No
Clicky: No
Actuation Force: 60g (40g-80g overall) (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 2mm to actuation, 4mm to bottom

_{Cherry MX-Black switches are linear (non-tactile) switches, these are considered one of the best switch types for gaming. When gaming, having a tactile bump does absolutely nothing because you're going to be bottoming out anyway. So these give you a very smooth feel. The actuation and release points are at the exact same position as well. So games that require a lot of double tapping become easier than on any other keyswitch. However, most people don't enjoy typing on them that much do in part, to their linear nature.
If you're a person who tends to hit a wrong key every so often while gaming, these will be beneficial in that the high actuation force will help prevent many of those accidental presses.}

Cherry MX Brown Switches

Type: Tactile Switch
Link: DataSheet
Tactile: Yes
Clicky: No
Actuation Force: 45g (55g Peak Force) (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 2mm to actuation, 4mm to bottom

<sub>Cherry MX Brown switches are considered a middle ground between typing and "gaming" switches. They have a light, tactile feel half way through the key press that lets you know the switch has activated. This gives you an indication of what you can release the switch. The switch is considered a middle ground because the reset point & actuation point are close enough together than you can "float" at that point, enabling you to double tap faster.

As a note: this switch actually has a peak force of 55G, it is 45G at the point of actuation. This is due to the design of the Cherry switch itself.</sub>

Cherry MX Blue Switches

Type: Tactile & Clicky Switch
Link: DataSheet
Tactile: Yes, precise
Clicky: Yes
Actuation Force: 50g (60g Peak Force) (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 2mm to actuation, 4mm to bottom

<sub>Cherry MX Blue switches are the best cherry switch for typing. The tactile bump can easily be felt, and the resistance is similar to your average keyboard.

Although many people find them just fine for gaming, some don't like the fact that the release point is above the actuation point. This can cause some trouble with double-tapping. This is usually the case with someone who has experienced other mechanical switches before hand.

As a note: this switch actually has a peak force of 60g, it is 50g at the point of actuation. This is due to the design of the Cherry switch itself.</sub>

Cherry MX Clear Switches

Type: Tactile Switch
Link: DataSheet
Tactile: Yes
Clicky: No
Actuation Force: 55g (65G peak force) (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 2mm to actuation, 4mm to bottom

<sub>Cherry MX Clear switches have often been called "stiffer browns" though some users note that they have more of a tactile feel than browns do. This really can be a subjective topic, though this is another switch that could be considered "ballanced." The force required is comparable to most rubber dome keyboards, with a nice tactile feedback to tell you the key has actuated. These switches are harder to find on keyboards.

As a note: this switch actually has a peak force of 65g, it is 55g at the point of actuation. This is due to the design of the Cherry switch itself.</sub>

Cherry MX Red Switches

Type: Linear Switch
Link: DataSheet
Tactile: No
Clicky: No
Actuation Force: 45g (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 2mm to actuation, 4mm to bottom

_{Cherry MX-Red's are another switch that can be considered a "gaming" switch. It's essentially a lighter version of the MX Black, requiring less force to actuate. Most people do not find this switch that good for typing or gaming because it is so light. This switch is hard to find; and was reported as obsolete. Though some board makers still use it for Special Edition keyboards.}

Buckling Spring Keyswitches

Type: Tactile & Clicky Mechanical Switch
Link: Patent
Tactile: Yes, very precise
Clicky: Yes, loud
Actuation Force: 65g-70g (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 2.3mm to actuation, 3.7mm to bottom

_{Buckling springs are pretty straightforward once you see them in action. After pushing the key down a certain distance the spring buckles under pressure, causing the hammer at the bottom to hit a membrane sheet and create an electrical contact. The buckling of the spring also provides tactile feedback and a satisfying click as it hits the shaft wall. And you might also notice through the force diagrams that this is the only mechanical switch where the tactile and audible feedback correspond to the exact moment the switch actuates.}

Black Alps

Type: Tactile Mechanical Switch
Tactile: Yes
Clicky: No
Actuation Force: Simplified 60g, Complicated 70g (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 3.5mm

<sub>Black Alps are one of the two most common Alps switch types. Many people do not like these switches due to the fact that they are stiff, bottom out hard, and tend to develop friction in the travel as they wear. Nonetheless, they are an improvement over most rubber dome keyboards.

There are two different types of Black Alps switch - an older type known as the "Complicated" due to the large number of parts in the switch, and a newer type known as the "Simplified", which was manufactured by Alps and some other companies. Complicated switches are common in many older keyboards, particularly the Dell AT101W, which is a very common mechanical keyboard from the 1990s.

The most well known Simplified Black switch is made by a company called Fukka, and was used in the ABS M1. The Fukka switch has less resistance, but many claim that it provides less solid tactility than the complicated switch.</sub>

White Alps

Type: Clicky & Tactile Mechanical Switch
Tactile: Yes
Clicky: Yes
Actuation Force: 60g-70g (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 3.5mm

<sub>White Alps are one of the most most common Alps switch types. These are far more popular than the Black switches due to more pronounced tactility, and the lower force requirements of some versions. Like the Black Alps, White Alps are much easier to bottom out on compared with other mechanical keyswitch designs.

As with the Black switch. there are Complicated and Simplified White switches. The two most popular Simplified White switches are the Fukka and the XM. The XM is almost universally considered to be a terrible switch, it was used on some older Filco Zero models, and some vintage keyboards. The Fukka switch is quite popular, and some people prefer them over the Complicated switch. It is used on some current production Alps keyboards such as current production Filco Zeros, Matias keyboards and some others. Complicated White switches were used on some well made keyboards from the 90s such as the Northgate and Focus keyboards.

There are also a variety of White Alps-like switches of varying quality. Some, like the SMK Monterey, are considered very pleasant to type on..</sub>

Topre Key Switches

Type: Tactile Capacitive Switch
Link: Patent
Tactile: Yes
Clicky: No
Actuation Force: 30g, 35g, 45g, 55g depending on model (Force Diagram)
Key Travel: 4mm

<sub>Topre switches are somewhat of a hybrid switch, and are capacitive by nature. The Topre mechanism uses a spring underneath a rubber dome, and the depression of the spring causes a change in capacitance between the underlying capacitor pads. With this change in capacitance; the switch activates.

Topre Switches are considered some of the finest switches available, as they offer a very enjoyable typing experience with a quieter experience compared to a Cherry MX, Alps, or Buckling Spring switch. The reason is Topre switches have the smoothest force gradient even compared to Linear switches like MX-Reds and MX-Blacks.</sub>

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List Lowyat mechanical keyboard users:(listed by name followed by what keyboard brand/model they have) Credits To Moogle Stiltzkin For Creating the List.

ABS

1. OCN_fssbzz - ABS M1 (black ALPS)

ACER

1. Cyclonechuah - ACER 6311-HU (ALPS switch)

Cherry

1. THEswordmaster - Cherry G80-3494 Lycus-2 Black (Cherry mx red)
2. OCN_fssbzz - Cherry G80-3494 Lycus-2 (Cherry mx red)
3. Squarebox - Cherry G80-3494 Lycus-2 (Cherry mx red with White Rice's geekhack custom made doubleshot abs 108 key cap set installed )
4. Moogle Stiltzkin - Cherry G80-1295 HAU NKRO (Cherry mx black, very rare vintage keyboard)

Das

1. alvin8866 - Das Ultimate
2. OCN_fssbzz - DAS Silent Model S
3. SSJBen - Das Model S Professional
4. ganstream1 - Das Model S Professional

Deck Legend

Ducky

1. Moogle Stiltzkin - Ducky DK-9008 laser etched PBT keycaps (Cherry Mx brown)
2. Moogle Stiltzkin - Ducky DK-9008 Tiger Limited Edition (Cherry mx Brown, with a Cherry mx Clear spacebar)
3. Cyclonechuah - Ducky DK-9008 Black On Black silkscreen abs keycaps (Cherry MX Black)
4. OCN_fssbzz - Ducky DK-1087 (Cherry Mx brown)
5. OCN_fssbzz - Ducky DK-9008 Special Edition Mix (black,blue,brown Cherry mx switches)
6. cusx - Ducky DK-9008 (Cherry Mx brown)
7. micdy - Ducky DK-9008 PBT laser etched key caps (Mixed black, blue and brown Cherry Mx switches)
8. Squarebox - Ducky DK-9008 abs black on black (Cherry Mx blue)
9. Sky.Live - Ducky DK-9008 ( Cherry Mx brown )
10. Kepala Botak - Ducky DK-9008 ( Cherry Mx brown With PBT Keycaps )
11. Xcen - Ducky DK-9008 (Cherry MX Blue with ABS blank caps.)
12. VampHexia - Ducky DK-9008 ( Cherry Mx brown )
13. ravewar - Ducky DK-1008L ( Cherry Mx brown )
14. rockccf - Ducky DK-9008 ( Cherry Mx blue )
15. angelofro - Ducky DK-9008 Tiger Limited Edition (Cherry mx Black)
16. skincladalien - Ducky DK-1008 ( Cherry Mx Brown )
17. kaiserreich - Ducky DK-9008 ( Cherry Mx Brown with ABS Blanks )
18. larnelle - Ducky DK-9000 ( Cherry Mx Brown )

Filco

1. alvin8866 - Filco Majestouch (Cherry Mx blue, with blank keys)
2. Squarebox - Filco Majestouch "Otaku" (Cherry Mx Brown)
3. willaw - Filco Zero (Fukkas switches).
4. Evo Fantasy - Filco Majestouch non-nkro (Cherry MX Brown)
5. lew999999 - Filco Majestouch NKRO (Cherry MX Blue)
6. zandara - Filco Majestouch NKRO (Cherry MX Brown)
7. BlueBerry~ - Majestouch Linear R Limited Edition (Cherry MX Red)
8. Slythape - Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Blue)
9. kEazYc - Majestouch AI FKBN104M-AI Blue (Cherry MX Brown)

Gigabyte

1. Ic3pRInc3sSsIcA - GK-K8000 (Cherry Mx black)

HHKB

1. alvin8866 - Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2 (HHKB)
2. PeaceCraft1989 - Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2 (HHKB)
3. [Top-Gun] - HHKB

IBM

1. willaw - IBM Model M (1988) (Buckling springs)
2. Kaiserreich - IBM Model M 59G7980 'Lexmark' (1993) (Buckling spring)

IONE

1. snipaboy - IONE Scorpius M10

Leopold

1. Cyclonechuah - Leopold FC200R Tenkeyless
2. Cyclonechuah - Leopold FC500R (Cherry MX Red)

Noppoo

1. lucidlts - Noppoo Choc Mini

PLU

1. lucidlts - PLU ML-G2000
2. lucidlts - PLU ML-G3000 NKRO Edition
3. mikaelr - PLU ML-G2000 (Cherry MX Brown)
4. low yat 82 - PLU ML-87

Razer

1. sai86 - Black Widow Expert (Cherry Mx blue)
2. blacktrix - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
3. phantomash - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
4. raynmay - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
5. boiboi95 - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
6. BlueBerry~ - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
7. zandara - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
8. davidlian - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
9. axn992 - Black Widow Expert (Cherry Mx blue)
10. Mr.Botz - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
11. j.sun - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)

Rosewill

1. OCN_fssbzz - Rosewill RK9000

Steel Series

1. BlueBerry~ - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
2. AlexLai - SteelSeries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
3. N1ck - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
4. shawnlut - SteelSeries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
5. victor2212 - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
6. warlove3 - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
7. aegis` - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
8. Calvin Seak - SteelSeries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
9. jay - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
10. Cyclonechuah - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
11. StratOS - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
12. OCN_fssbzz - Steelseries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
13. lucidlts - Steelseries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
14. lucidlts - Steelseries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
15. Squarebox - Steelseries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
16. angelofro - Steelseries 6Gv2 Modded (Cherry Mx black + Brown + Clear + Red)
17. rockccf - Steelseries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)

Topre

Unicomp

1. willaw - Unicomp SpaceSaver

ZOWIE

1. BlueBerry~ - ZOWIE CELERITAS (Cherry MX Brown)

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: May 25 2011, 09:03 PM

Great, new v2 thread

Anyways, i wanted to ask as towards the end of the V1, how do you guys with multiple keyboards manage the use? Do you sayang one keyboard more than another one?

For me, when I get my mechanical keyboard.. I just fell in love with it and never use my old keyboard anymore (Microsoft/Razer Reclusa).

BTW... Woot! Congratz on V2!!

This post has been edited by VampHexia: Mar 20 2011, 07:11 PM

@Cyclonechuah
oh ye, just about to create a new thread for V2 and i saw you already on the move. Pls add a 7G & noppoo choc mini 84 to my list also

@kaiserreich

for me, my steelseries boards are for FPS & normal typing.
the PLU board is for O2jam,DJMAX & other music games.

Errr, i mainly each keyboard roughly about 3 month above to understand the quality of the keyboard. But i some how dump my 7G in corner and using Leopold and Ducky, one on bed, another one full keyboard on table LOL.


okay, please wait, i'm still currently adding more information in the 1st thread so new users can learn and understand them in a fast pace.

Nice. More and more people are actually interested in Mechanical Keyboards in Malaysia.

We need all Malaysian get know about Mechanical keyboard.

Great it is v2 already! Can't wait my Filco Majestouch NKRO brown switch arrive this Tuesday!
And my name is in the list!

This post has been edited by zandara: Mar 20 2011, 08:16 PM

phew... i just finished editing all the things and added to the 1st post, enjoy guys.

@lucidlts
i added you to the list. it's updated. tell me if the list got anything wrong. i'll update asap =D

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Added on March 20, 2011, 8:21 pmAdded : i think i'll ask them about otaku version, since i'm thinking about getting one without font, looks more clean and good way to prevent people from using my keyboard.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Mar 20 2011, 08:21 PM

Awesome. If you sell those i'll probably get two keyboards from you

If you get the otaku, then I'll have to sell off my 2 days old Ducky 1008 to afford that.
This mech keyboard business is poisonous.

yeah, indeed.
Behold! Rise of the Mechanical keyboards. lol

Nice V2. Woot. Shouldnt organizing users with the keyboards they use be easier? Since most have one or more keyboards.

well, having brand as the table name is better because the brand name is what ppl recognize

Good job TS, those .gif images cleared all my doubts about different colour of switches.

Razer Blackwidow Ultimate user here just got it 2 days ago

This post has been edited by Mr.Botz: Mar 21 2011, 03:03 AM

added. =D Welcome to the Mechanical Keyboard Forum.

Woohoo, go go Mech Club. Also Cyclone would you mind adding my name into the namelist? Ducky-9008 Brown Switches with PBT keycaps.

@cyclone, the banner at the 1st post will be good until you start selling them leopolds.
After that the mods will probably construe it as you trying to promote your sales in non sales thread.

Just a heads-up

Do add me to list for duckies


Just realized since I got this keyboard that I am more prone to type things out that just do the ctrl+c ctrl+v combo, for some of my work

This post has been edited by kaiserreich: Mar 21 2011, 01:27 AM

hmm, still waiting for mx red to arrive from edifier then i will sell off my 7G =X

Congrats to V2 thread

hoping to join the list once edifier announces the price for filcos...then gonna decide either the 6gv2 or the filco...

anyway, there's someone in Bulk section selling PLUM mech keyboards using cherry blacks...

anyone used kbs frm this brand before?

PLUM? u can give it a try if u're not interested in NKRO

@ravewar, There's Leopold choice as well! spreading poison =D

Hmm, i wanted to collect some information here, Since the first batch Leopold Cherry MX 104 Key FC300R/500R will be mainly Focus Cherry MX Red Switch.

So... now i wanted to know how many of you prefer otaku version over normal version(otaku version means, all key will be blank without any lettering AKA Blank Key Cap)
You can even ask for the JP version.(but i doubt people are gonna get JP version thou =/)

So everyone will be happy to have a choice. Please tell me anything you want from this website and i'll try to bring in.(Must be Leopold Product Thou LOL)
http://www.leopold.co.kr/

But some people might be quite confuse why Leopold Keyboard has multiple versions like FC300R, FC500R, so i'll make some explaination here.
The model number has something to do with the layout.
FC300R = Korea Layout(Possible to only have English Lettering as well as Blank)
FC500R = US Layout(Possible to have Blank)

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Mar 21 2011, 04:48 AM

@ Cyclone
Is there any keycap, puller or wrist rest selling separately?

I prefer the Tenkeyless Otaku Brown switch. Since the size is smaller and lighter I can bring to work for typing. I dun look at keyboard to type so no need for printed caps. You bring this in I will certainly buy unless Filco offer better price and is faster to come.

no credit to moogle :{ ??

I got constant buying stuff from Armygroup. Anybody intersted to tumpang and buy together?

@cyclone,

my budget's limited...max i would spend on keyboards, would prolly be rm400...

if it's lower, why not

@cyclone , i prefer this. got?



黑同刻 (black word on black keycaps)

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Added on March 21, 2011, 10:05 amthis also very nice



This post has been edited by nncl: Mar 21 2011, 10:05 AM

Well...I prefer normal version and FC500R.

@storm88
how you pay the armygroup? how much is the filco red switch 87 white?

My Filco reds are being shipped now. Woot.

Great, how much u order from Aus(convert in MY:D) ?

220 aud. Times 3 for myr.

shipping cost how much?

i ask my principle pay behalf on me.
and i pay back to them personally

LOL less than 2k twd, pretty worthed
it's 6KRO btw.

yeah cheap there, but limit unit. few week ago i try order , i type in 100 unit , cant be order. they need to check with supplier first , after confirm got stock then email to you.

@nncl
100 unit?! u own a shop or just trying out for fun?

i interest on the red switch also... got sell black switch?
seem like armygroup dint got filco red 87 white color...

wanna tumpang this from armygroup, how much shipping?

http://www.armygroup.com.tw/shop/goods.php?id=5663

@zandara
Once i got a unit, i'll post a unboxing picture regarding of what will be included inside, since now i am not sure.

@xenodon
Noted, thanks. But currently for now, Tenkeyless version will be possibly unavailable, since Leopold are not happy with the quality that Taiwan Manufacturer provided(Datacomp), So now they are temporally stopping production of Tenkeyless model.

@Moogle Stiltzkin
Well, i Credited you for creating the awesome Keyboard User List!

[quote=ravewar,Mar 21 2011, 10:02 AM]
@cyclone,

@ravewar
Don't worry, it's under RM400, possibly, with freebies too.

@nncl
Those keycaps are Ducky Black on black Keycaps and White on white keycaps. So Leopold doesn't have them.
Currently my plan is getting a otaku version, and then purchase black on black PBT Keycaps 37 alphabet+Direction key from KBC Forum.(Should be under RM50)

@rockccf
Noted, thanks alot.


@BlueBerry~
Actually, my hand are very itcy on Filco Red and would wanted to try one as well. But the price are getting higher and higher.
RM660 For Filco Red..... gosh...

@lucidlts
i think he's ordering 100 unit of Cherry Switches, not Keyboard.

not to brag or anything, but should also credit me for creating the first mech club :{ before this not many people knew about it in the malaysian scene.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Mar 21 2011, 01:50 PM

Okay, adding the credits.

the thing is, the only mechkb Razer have is BWE & BWU.
"official" mechanical keyboard manufacturers like Filco have more than 2 model.

@Cyclonechuah
when you will bulk the aluminium keycaps?
got any chance to bulk the filco red 87?

I think I shall get the Filco Reds on Wednesday. Friday at the latest.

Also the BlackWidow aint that bad. Not saying that I got a good unit. But the cons about it can either be fixed by yourself or wont be noticeable by the average user.

This post has been edited by BlueBerry~: Mar 21 2011, 03:16 PM

bet linear switch users will notice it tho .
anyway, my housemate bought a zowie celeritas from taobao. ( finally got the chance to try it out )

Hence I say average user. How many people will actually notice that the click on the A and the Z is different?

hardly
btw, does anyone knows what's the difference between green switch & blue switch?

green switch? u mean 青轴?

There's green switches?!

IMHO I think Moogle should be given more credit for his contributions to LYN's Mechanical Keyboard Club, after all, he DID create first thread, he DID introduce Mechanical Keyboards to majority of the LYN community and he DID provide majority of the overall information we have now (and he still does). So yeah, Moogle really deserves credit.

no, what i mean is 绿轴

Yeah, those.

For the sake of all, i'm not taking any credit myself, and also, not to cause any other misunderstanding. If i'm missing something, you guys can always remind me.

I'm creating this V2 Thread is because mods suddenly close the thread without reaching 2500 Post(althou it's already above 2400, should be close). There for, i'm just recreating a Thread so we all can join in the chat. And We doesn't even have time to ask who's gonna create the Thread back.

Sorry, but no offense here. Anything regarding to Credit, send me a pm, and i'll add you, anything missing? send me a PM, and i'll add again. We're not here to talk about who and who deserved more credit.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Mar 21 2011, 05:55 PM

chill bro... it does not matter as long as everyone can gather online in a thread like this...

BTW: I prefer full keyboard and WoB keycaps...

Better if can provide service to order from Pimp my keyboard also...

really love that red oh sh.t esc key

i realise that my Razer BW, some of the buttons. They have different click sounds. Some higher clicks tone, some lower. Why?

My wallet just cried after it read this.

this is well known issue for BW

performance wise still ok.

@cyclonechuah --- do u MO of ordering KBC keycaps here ?

Just got my FILCO Majestouch Brown Switch Mechanical Keyboard N-Key Roll. Gonna test it out now.

This post has been edited by zandara: Mar 21 2011, 09:39 PM

Yo! Im kinda new to mech keyboards. Whats the cheapest 1's with blue switches cus i just love the clicky sound LOL! so far i only encountered the razer BW. and it seems there's problem with it 0.0

Like I said, most of the problems are either fixable or not noticeable by the average joe. That being said, the BWE seems to be better than the BWU.

Im not a fan of leds anyway . For me the simpler the better? LOL! BWE less problems eh~ hmms. Gona save for that then .

Obviously, if you like pretty lights you should go for BWU. Having said that, there's not much difference between the BWU and BWE besides the LEDs and the audio input/output jack.

Personally dont care abt the LEDs, but I want the jacks. Good thing is, mine was free. lulz.

If you want alternatives to BW, then try to go PCHOME and check out the duckies. The 1008 series has a pricing that competes with the BW including the shipping
http://global.pchome.com.tw/?mod=store&fun..._NO=DCAH22&tm=u

The one with the big enter key is RM260 including shipping
Ducky 1008 Big enter a.k.a 1008L Cherry MX blue
http://global.pchome.com.tw/?mod=item&func...22&ROWNO=5&tm=u

Or you could get the 9008, though this is prolly around the price of the BWU, but it comes with the standard keycaps and free Black on Black keycaps as well

If you don't read Chinese, Ripster at GeekHack has made a good guide on navigating around the PcHome website

This post has been edited by kaiserreich: Mar 21 2011, 09:42 PM

Wow...i believe this is what I'm looking for....clicky sound and all...minus the chinese characters....

anyone here can order 1 for me?

This post has been edited by ravewar: Mar 21 2011, 09:56 PM

u can wait for bulk order ( if there's any ) tho. just wondering, how do u guys pay via paypal? never tried using paypal actually even though i have 60+ USD in it :S

that's an issue...waiting for bulk order...

it can be cheaper for bulk as the 10 USD shipping is up to 10kg. (5 order would be great.)

principle = my supplier's sales contact
btw, i not going to reorder from them so fast. next order propably by May.

Filco:
http://store.pchome.com.tw/byja/M05835769.htm

Ducky:
http://ecshweb.pchome.com.tw/?m=search&f=d...999999999&c=G03

which one to buy?

:$

Get a Maybankard Debit Card or something and link it to your paypal. Works seamlessly.
If you want to play it safe, then get the type of Debit Card where you need to load money into it before you can use it, such as the CIMB Debit Card which does not charge anything for reloads and what not.

Otherwise, RHB savings account can be linked to your Paypal account, but I am not sure how that works actually.

I don't like the layout for the Big Enter Keys. Did not realize I order the Big Enter Key layout until the keyboard arrived at KLIA.
Too bad you weren't looking for MX Brown switches. If you were, I would have gladly offer to sell you my few days old 1008 for a special price.

Both are excellent keyboards from what I can gather, though if I recall correctly, Moogle mentioned that the 9008 is better than the FILCO due to the stabilizers used for the keys in Geekhack. Can Moogle verify this?

Buying locally(as in Taiwan Local)?
If want to ship it here, need to go to the global site.

This post has been edited by kaiserreich: Mar 21 2011, 11:15 PM

just to share out.

Lelong @ RM330 is that you?

This post has been edited by kaiserreich: Mar 21 2011, 11:17 PM

Yup. Don't tell me you are the seller? LOL

If you're buying from Global Pchome, it will redirect you to paypal login page. Once you login just follow the instructions and proceed.

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Added on March 21, 2011, 11:30 pmHow much is your special price?

This post has been edited by rockccf: Mar 21 2011, 11:30 PM

Hmm, need to ask for ur opinion again =\. which type of switch is good for games like o2jam or sdo?

@Fooo000kk
i prefer black switch... but if you thing is hard to press then go for red switch..

btw i playing sdo too...

Nice~. Black, like the steelseries 6gv2? My friend has 1. Havent actually tried to use a mech keyboard to play. Btw, after reading. I chged my mind and am now looking for browns. LOL! maybe after 1 or 2 months only i will buy. Butterfly fly out from my wallet already.

@Iphone4Lover
lol... you correct...

@Fooo000kk
you better try the 6gv2 first... see it suit you or not...

Just tracked the shipment of my Filco Red. ETA for Wednesday! WOOT!

What's the 雷射雕刻鍵帽?

http://global.pchome.com.tw/?mod=item&func...0X&ROWNO=4&tm=u

What is the difference between these two (in terms of keycaps)?

http://global.pchome.com.tw/?mod=item&func...0X&ROWNO=3&tm=u

Which one is double shot?

雷射雕刻鍵帽 means laser etched. No double shots for Ducky's
They are pad printed.

The only difference I can see is the layout. One is ANSI, one is Chinese ISO (big Enter key)

This post has been edited by kaiserreich: Mar 22 2011, 12:32 AM

All i can see is the large enter button. LOL