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kangwoo
post Aug 1 2012, 12:43 AM

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currently 3 bedrooms total size 375sft use the 5kayux5kayu

can remove the kayu2 by myself

so now, need some1 to pasang the tiles and not yet survey the tiles price but can get tiles less than rm8?

how much the labour,material if any cost
ginming
post Aug 16 2012, 12:25 PM

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Be careful when buy tiles. I have just ordered and made full payment during ordering my tiles last week. After 2 days, i received they delivered of my tiles and guest what happened. The tiles quality is not as same as what i have show at the showroom. I have chosen rough(a bit rough lah) surface for car porch, but the tiles when delivered to me are very very very rough. Is like kids when play at the car porch, may easy to fall down and cause bleeding. I called and argue with the shop, you know what they tell me:

1. The tiles produced for each batch may have different quality. (Where they never tell me this when i buy)
2. The tiles produced will not be 100% same as the one displayed at the showroom (Then what for display at showroom, cheating).
3. The shop will not be responsibilities on the tiles delivered, that is tiles manufacturer problems, not leader problems. (Who am i buying tiles from? The leader or the manufacturer?)
4. The QC of the manufacturer will only certified on the tiles colour, not the surface. (QC simply can passed. That also i received same tiles with different different colours)
5. We cant do anything, if you want, we can arrange the tiles manufacturer sales man to talk with me, but this will just waste my time, as they wont do anything as well.
6. I requested them to take back the tiles, the sales girl said base on the total need to take back they will charge RM260 for handling cost. (Which is not my problem but i need to pay for it)

Now am thinking pay a bit more for tiles is much better to get better quality of tiles, coz this is one time charge forever you stay at the house. Cheaper price always will cause bad quality and bad service. When i called again, the sales girl will always engage, at toilet, not arround, ask to call back also never call back till i need to go to the shop my self and argue with them.
I told them to bring back those tiles, and change others tiles which is more expensive, they will still charge me the RM260.
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post Aug 16 2012, 03:48 PM

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Hi Gimming,

I am also learning from all sifus here, and try to avoid problem like what you encountered.

Mind sharing with us the name of the tiles supplier, manufacturer and what type of tiles did you bought so that we can learn from your bad experiences?

Can we just put a deposit first, and pay the balance upon delivery and examine the tiles before final payment? Is there such a practice? (Sorry for this stupid question as I have no experience whatsoever in this).


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post Aug 23 2012, 10:10 PM

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This Feruni brand, is it any good? Read about this brand a few times in the forum but not sure this brand consider what category?
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post Aug 24 2012, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Aug 23 2012, 10:10 PM)
This Feruni brand, is it any good? Read about this brand a few times in the forum but not sure this brand consider what category?
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Feruni is a company sourcing their product from China.
The quality is quite good. (Personal view when I was out tiles hunting)
They mainly bring in big sized tiles.
(Nowadays all big sized tiles are from China)
Generally their price are not cheap.

earthkid
post Aug 27 2012, 12:18 AM

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Hi guys, I am sourcing for a good contractor to do tiling for floor & walls for a 1,200 sqf condo, will be sourcing the tiles myself and just need the contractor do do the cement, adhesive, water proofing, hacking of existing floor wall tiles wall, labour. You guys have anyone good to recommend?

Would you guys know roughly how much will it be to have these done at the current market rate?Thanks for the help as i am still a newbie in this, hope u sifus-sifus out there can light up my bulb a lil.Thanks!

p/s: on another note, I am actually thinking about other alternative such as using a cement screed floor like the image below, anyone has any experience and contractor to share for such floor?Would very much appreciate it!
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This post has been edited by earthkid: Aug 28 2012, 04:57 PM
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post Aug 27 2012, 03:35 PM

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Tiling need good sourcing and colour scenes. I choosed Niro tiles for my master bedroom. When view the tiles in Niro showroom look damn good, when installed in my house, look so so only. I suggest no need to go for high end tiles, look for medium price tiles will do. Also, see the tiles under the sunlight and always ask the tiles supplier combine a few tiles to let you see the bigget picture, sometimes, just see 1 tile will be misleading.... Just my opinion.

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post Sep 3 2012, 06:05 PM

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Hi, would like to get some feedback for kitchen countertop. Is polished tiles better than matte tiles? So far, what I understand is that polished is easier to clean (essential since it's kitchen use), but at the same time, I worry if it gets scratched, it won't look nice anymore. For matte, it's more scratch resistant, but more susceptible to stains?
Hope to get some views. Thanks.
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post Sep 3 2012, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(earthkid @ Aug 27 2012, 12:18 AM)
Hi guys, I am sourcing for a good contractor to do tiling for floor & walls for a 1,200 sqf condo, will be sourcing the tiles myself and just need the contractor do do the cement, adhesive, water proofing, hacking of existing floor wall tiles wall, labour. You guys have anyone good to recommend?

Would you guys know roughly how much will it be to have these done at the current market rate?Thanks for the help as i am still a newbie in this, hope u sifus-sifus out there can light up my bulb a lil.Thanks!

p/s: on another note, I am actually thinking about other alternative such as using a cement screed floor like the image below, anyone has any experience and contractor to share for such floor?Would very much appreciate it!
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Nice....i like to know who can do this type of cement flooring. LIKE It so much
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post Sep 5 2012, 01:20 AM

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I'm getting some quotes for tiling for my new kitchen extension and most tilers doesn't quote or do the base cement on top of the bricks. They only quote based on labour to stick the tile.

I was wondering if anyone here have this same problem? That the tiler will only stick the tiles rather than cement the brick wall and stick the tiles after?
orientaliew
post Sep 7 2012, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(bat11 @ Aug 27 2012, 03:35 PM)
Tiling need good sourcing and colour scenes. I choosed Niro tiles for my master bedroom. When view the tiles in Niro showroom look damn good, when installed in my house, look so so only. I suggest no need to go for high end tiles, look for medium price tiles will do. Also, see the tiles under the sunlight and always ask the tiles supplier combine a few tiles to let you see the bigget picture, sometimes, just see 1 tile will be misleading.... Just my opinion.
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i think the lighting and design at the showroom "mislead" you, hehe
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post Sep 7 2012, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(orientaliew @ Sep 7 2012, 12:17 PM)
i think the lighting and design at the showroom "mislead" you, hehe
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+1. The lighting play a big part of it.
That is why many ppl think they will like the same while buy the cloth wear by modals..

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post Sep 15 2012, 11:38 PM

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Guys need your advise

Car Porch currently is locked bricks. 26x30 = 780sqft.
Labour only to lay 1x1 tile RM 2.50 per sqft.
Labour only to remove lock brick + dispose + install steel grid and cementing work = RM 800

Is this reasonable?

I need to buy the following. Can you advise me ? Rough estimate will do so I can do some budgeting.

How many bag of cement required for 780sq ft?
How much sand required for 780sq ft?
How many liter of Susu required for 780sq ft?
How many liter of adhesive required for 780 sq ft?

I appreciate your advise. biggrin.gif

Thanks


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This post has been edited by Pandoora: Sep 18 2012, 11:41 AM
lawchinkit
post Oct 4 2012, 08:42 PM

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Hello, guys!!! Anyone who wanna buy tiles can come to Buimaco USJ showroom, it's a 3 storey showroom & we are selling a lot of brands such as Feruni, Niro Granite, Guocera, MML & etc..if you need further information, please don't hesitate to contact me.. smile.gif

Company Name: Buimaco Sdn.Bhd
Contact No: James 016-286 9107
Showroom Address: No.2, Jalan USJ 21/6, UEP, 47630 Subang Jaya, Selangor.

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post Oct 4 2012, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Aug 24 2012, 09:05 AM)
Feruni is a company sourcing their product from China.
The quality is quite good. (Personal view when I was out tiles hunting)
They mainly bring in big sized tiles.
(Nowadays all big sized tiles are from China)
Generally their price are not cheap.
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This is my experience with FERUNI. There are pros and cons using them. First, after spending some time looking at their beautiful showroom, I felt inspired and had great ideas for my own bathroom tiles. After a lot of discussion about tiles, their quality,my preferred color scheme ect. ect. they said they would do a proposal based on our discussion. They got my bathroom measurements from my PIC (person in charge) of the renovation. Then they gave me a quote......I was surprised at the sum .........but we cannot judge until we see the designs. Unfortunately, when i saw the designs, i was not impressed - to me they were not special or spectacular for the $$$$ they were charging. AND the prices were MYR not Chinese yuan or HKG dollars. I asked for a discount, they said not much can be offered. Guess what, i took my business elsewhere. But i felt confident to do so because I knew what I wanted exactly. To sum up, i'd say Feruni is for those who have no idea about what they want in color, combination, or tiles/or highlights and need help choosing and visualizing. Basically they do a 3d design for you, like Kitchen specialists, so u can visualize. That is why their price is higher by 50% if not more, from regular tile places. I have observed people in tile shops going it alone or with their contractors and chosen some awful looking tiles, i personally think these people need help from a place loke Feruni. However, if u are confident u know what u want and need, u can put together a great design with minimum help.

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QUOTE(bteoh @ Sep 3 2012, 10:58 PM)
Nice....i like to know who can do this type of cement flooring. LIKE It so much
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It may look nice to some people(though some prefer tiled floor) but the feel of stepping onto concrete flooring is different from tiled flooring. I haven't seen any units that incorporate this sort of flooring in residential homes but this finish is quite common in big machinery factories or power stations.

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tomjason
post Oct 5 2012, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(ginming @ Aug 16 2012, 12:25 PM)
Be careful when buy tiles. I have just ordered and made full payment during ordering my tiles last week. After 2 days, i received they delivered of my tiles and guest what happened. The tiles quality is not as same as what i have show at the showroom. I have chosen rough(a bit rough lah) surface for car porch, but the tiles when delivered to me are very very very rough. Is like kids when play at the car porch, may easy to fall down and cause bleeding. I called and argue with the shop, you know what they tell me:

1. The tiles produced for each batch may have different quality. (Where they never tell me this when i buy)
2. The tiles produced will not be 100% same as the one displayed at the showroom (Then what for display at showroom, cheating).
3. The shop will not be responsibilities on the tiles delivered, that is tiles manufacturer problems, not leader problems. (Who am i buying tiles from? The leader or the manufacturer?)
4. The QC of the manufacturer will only certified on the tiles colour, not the surface. (QC simply can passed. That also i received same tiles with different different colours)
5. We cant do anything, if you want, we can arrange the tiles manufacturer sales man to talk with me, but this will just waste my time, as they wont do anything as well.
6. I requested them to take back the tiles, the sales girl said base on the total need to take back they will charge RM260 for handling cost. (Which is not my problem but i need to pay for it)

Now am thinking pay a bit more for tiles is much better to get better quality of tiles, coz this is one time charge forever you stay at the house. Cheaper price always will cause bad quality and bad service. When i called again, the sales girl will always engage, at toilet, not arround, ask to call back also never call back till i need to go to the shop my self and argue with them.
I told them to bring back those tiles, and change others tiles which is more expensive, they will still charge me the RM260.
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hi bro and others,

just read your thread..feel sorry for you..below is my comment about your question, actually is not seller fault its is manufacturer.


1. The tiles produced for each batch may have different quality. (Where they never tell me this when i buy)
Ans : Yes, its very true for all tile manufactures,even one day manufacture date can have different coloring. That why, when order tile, make sure you order a bit extra. i also wonder why this happened to the manufacturer.


2. The tiles produced will not be 100% same as the one displayed at the showroom (Then what for display at showroom, cheating).
Ans: Yes, its very true. That reality for tile manufactures. Sure different from what you received from showroom. sometime is showroom is batch for many years. i also wonder why this happened to the manufacturer.

3. The shop will not be responsibilities on the tiles delivered, that is tiles manufacturer problems, not leader problems. (Who am i buying tiles from? The leader or the manufacturer?)
Ans:same as item i and 2.

4. The QC of the manufacturer will only certified on the tiles colour, not the surface. (QC simply can passed. That also i received same tiles with different different colours)
Ans: The tile manufacturers have QC for color and surface but will not be the same in color in showroom.


5. We cant do anything, if you want, we can arrange the tiles manufacturer sales man to talk with me, but this will just waste my time, as they wont do anything as well.
Ans: Yes it true, but if you buy local branded tile they will entertain you. I do know if buy china brand. For your case, if you buy from local branded tile sure you can return as the surface too rough that maybe manufacturer defect...but if you buy china brand, sorry bro.


6. I requested them to take back the tiles, the sales girl said base on the total need to take back they will charge RM260 for handling cost. (Which is not my problem but i need to pay for it).
Ans: if you buy china brand, susah bro nak return.


TIP:

that why, i kept few boxes of tiles in my store..we do not know maybe in future when your tile got one or 2 pecah or etc..so when replace the tile will be the same.

TQ

This post has been edited by tomjason: Oct 5 2012, 10:11 AM
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post Oct 5 2012, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Pandoora @ Sep 15 2012, 11:38 PM)
Guys need your advise

Car Porch currently is locked bricks. 26x30 = 780sqft.
Labour only to lay 1x1 tile  RM 2.50 per sqft.
Labour only to remove lock brick + dispose + install steel grid and cementing work =  RM 800

Is this reasonable?

I need to buy the following. Can you advise me ? Rough estimate will do so I can do some budgeting.

How many bag of cement required for 780sq ft?
How much sand required for 780sq ft?
How many liter of Susu required for 780sq ft?
How many liter of adhesive required for 780 sq ft?

I appreciate your advise. biggrin.gif

Thanks


Added on September 18, 2012, 11:41 amanybody............ cry.gif
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suggest u to go to hardware shop and ask them to estimate the figure, they should be able to asist you better.
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post Oct 5 2012, 06:54 PM

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I went to Feruni last week and saw a very nice pearl white matte tiles for living room but the price is a bit expensive, RM25 for 2x2ft. I'm looking for cheaper pearl white matte tiles 2x2ft around RM15. Anyone can recommend me a good place? FYI, I went to Oldtiles and Whitehorse but dont have a decent tiles which suit my requirement.
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post Oct 12 2012, 01:40 PM

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Hi,

Anyone knows of the shop where I can get my tiles cut ? its a 20 " x 20 " tiles.

Hope for any your advice and recommendation.

Thank you in advance.

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