Btw, pleased to report the team has been hard at work and we are completely changing the parameters and optimizing international bandwidth tonight. We have analyzed the profiles of the complaints and have confirmed that the majority are heavy users. Of course our real concern is the pact to non heavy users and business customers. Hence we will still maintain some form of traffic management.

BUT it's important for them to know that there is an order of priority for business users and high end packages specifically.

We will report back officially tonight but hope you an relay the message that there should be substantial improvement past midnight.

The capping will not be rollbacked or removed, only "relaxed".

They will continue to watch the performance of the network in the coming week and make further tweaks.

Apparently, they tell me that got people who wrote to that address (impact@tm.com.my) to say that things are OK.

/facepalm

They say that this proof that the service is better now.

gg lah like that.

We will find a way out immediately, today we are looking at some parameters that will allow the equilibrium of usage. If it’s still a challenge in the next 1-2 days, I’m going to pull that out first and then we will relook, get feedback from our users and see how we can do this better.

Fair Usage means that all our paying customers means they should be treated fairly. Heavy users tend to hog the network at the expense of the non-heavy users. The challenge is how we can implement this best we can and so that it is truly fair for the customer.

We will find a way out immediately, today we are looking at some parameters that will allow the equilibrium of usage. If it’s still a challenge in the next 1-2 days, I’m going to pull that out first and then we will relook, get feedback from our users and see how we can do this better.

Telekom Malaysia Bhd ™ wishes to clarify on our Fair Usage Policy (FUP) and address several comments in the blogosphere on allegations of a  ‘hard cap’ for international bandwidth being enforced by TM.

Firstly, we apologise for the inconvenience that our customers are currently facing on our internet services.

We would like to assure all our customers that it is not, in any way TM’s intention to enforce any ‘hard caps’ on our customers.

As a matter of principle, however, TM needs to abide by a FUP to ensure that the network caters to all customers in a fair manner, and this has been in place for a few years for Streamyx which is a contended, best effort service. This means the Streamyx network is catered to be shared by everybody at any point in time to ensure everybody gets a “fair share” of the bandwidth. Currently UniFi is not affected, as it is a new premium service.

The Streamyx “Fair Usage Policy” is available on our website (http://www.streamyx.com/customer_care/customer_care.php?id=customer_care_fair_usage_policy) and it basically describes the list of specific heavy usage activities (like P2P and gaming) that will be managed during peak periods.

As you all know, this kind of bandwidth management or FUP is a global and common telco and celco industry practice. It is already in place in Malaysia amongst the mobile broadband players and aimed at making sure our broadband service is fast and reliable whenever in use.  It is designed to benefit all users, especially normal or non-heavy users during peak periods, so that all can enjoy higher and fair browsing and surfing speed.

In general, TM’s FUP and implementation is aimed at providing an optimum internet experience to all Streamyx customers by rationalising the internet speed during peak periods (3pm – 1am).

Of late, our traffic profiles are changing quite rapidly, and we are noticing that network congestion can hit different parts of the country at different times of the day or week. When congestion hits, depending on the usage patterns, customers subscribing to the same package but generating different traffic patterns may experience different levels of service performance.

In an effort to ensure a fair distribution of resources amongst all customers at all times, whenever congestion occurs, TM’s network is able to calculate how many users are active at any given time and allocate dynamically the resources across all customers with active sessions.

In rare cases of heavy congestion, we ensure that no customers may get below a minimum threshold of international bandwidth, but there is no ‘ceiling’ to the bandwidth each customer can get.

The problems some customer are experiencing now may have stemmed post a successful pilot of a new traffic management model we ran a few months before, following which we went nationwide about 3 weeks ago. Clearly there is room for improvement and we are working hard to resolve this.

As dynamic allocation of bandwidth requires some specific settings that need to be fine tuned area by area, we elicit and welcome feedback on the experience in different parts of the country at different times of the day. We have set up a special email account where you can send your readings for our review: impact@tm.com.my effective 1 December 2010.

From our analysis, the current traffic patterns are, for most part, in line with our expectations on traffic management, and the speeds being delivered should suffice for a smooth internet experience.

Where the internet experience falls short, we will further investigate both individual cases and the service in its entirety to address specific concerns that they may be facing, and will respond to these customers directly.

Rest assured, TM takes note of all customer feedback to continuously ensure improved customer experience end-to-end.

From a market communications perspective, the FUP awareness campaign is already ongoing and we will further clarify as to the rules we are implementing – and why.

In fact, a bloggers briefing has already been scheduled for 17 December post our engagement with LYN and Kambingz earlier. About 40-50 selected bloggers will be invited to represent the wider blogger community to keep them abreast with our efforts to improve service delivery and customer experience overall, and to seek constructive feedback on these efforts. We hope to address, or at least start to address many concerns at this forum.

We thank you for your continuous feedback and ask for your kind understanding and patience as we work to deliver on our commitment to service quality and overall customer experience.

TELEKOM MALAYSIA BHD

The problems some customer are experiencing now may have stemmed post a successful pilot of a new traffic management model we ran a few months before, following which we went nationwide about 3 weeks ago. Clearly there is room for improvement and we are working hard to resolve this.

As dynamic allocation of bandwidth requires some specific settings that need to be fine tuned area by area, we elicit and welcome feedback on the experience in different parts of the country at different times of the day. We have set up a special email account where you can send your readings for our review: impact@tm.com.my effective 1 December 2010.

I have a question, I recently upgraded from 512kbps to 4mbps line, but at the router page, the DSL still show 2mbps cap, means the techie haven't do anything yet.

But, that is not the point. What I have observed so far "maybe" they have upgraded my account from 512kbps to 4mbps, because my download speed can go up to 200kb/sec with 2mbps cap line (before was 50kb/sec)

But this only happen on certain time. Let say during the day my speed is only around 50kb/sec but after midnight I can get as high as 200 kb/sec.

What gives? So my line is already been cap even they haven't yet upgrade my DSL line speed?

i solvve my capping problem with the only way that can be used. TM as we know as screamyx is under MCMC.

i was paying for 1mbps and i got 0.4mbps. i reported to TM a few times and they only tried to reset the port with their standard line "ada maintainnence kat building dekat cause disruption"

i didnt know their maintainence will go on for 1 year hmmm..
due to my work i need a stable connection, was stable a few years back and now it has frequent dc. after that they changed the port for me and solve the dc issues.

now lately about capping speed. i straight away cant work. wtf. called tm cs and they say no such thing no capping as they claim. zzz

i had no other choice but to report to http://www.skmm.gov.my/
i wrote a detailed report about capping and i have proff that they are allocation speed for unifi. as alot of my friends also has tested streamyx speed with unify at the same building. to our shock. unifi at the same building can reach 10x faster than streamyx. and streamyx cant even hit 1mbps. nvm, i reported anyway, and they called me 2 days later.

they send me an email regarding my issue, then 2 days later tm senior techs came to my place to resolve my issue. now i regain speed and torrents/direct download can hit 100kbps and above, aparently they open a new 2 or 4 mbps port to balance my speed out.

my opinion, tm scared of skmm, u complain to them, they will be in deep shit. they have to comply with the higher authority, hence they are forced to fix consumer that complain to skmm.

this is my personal experience. my home is still running on that speed, stable, fast, and totaly wad i paid for.

IS THERE ANY INFECTED ON VPN USER?? JUST ASKING

yes your vpn will be infected with a big virus until your speed slow like snail.

My 4mbps at office has been capped from tuesday..

cannot do a work..such as remote all site server..

adoyaii..

only streamyx home package and combo kena capping?

list it which package are affacted by capping
Streamyx Home / Combo with dynamic ip (Home Line)
Streamyx SOHO / SME with dynamic ip (Business Line) technical person told me this line same port connect on home package, the different only the price. so u cap all together??
Streamyx Fixed IP Line
Streamyx Unifi

Streamyx Home / Combo with dynamic ip (Home Line) CAPPED
Streamyx SOHO / SME with dynamic ip (Business Line) technical person told me this line same port connect on home package, the different only the price. so u cap all together??CAPPED
Streamyx Fixed IP LineCAPPED
Streamyx UnifiCAPPED

SEMUA PACKAGE CAPPED! Hope that answers your question.

I have a question, I recently upgraded from 512kbps to 4mbps line, but at the router page, the DSL still show 2mbps cap, means the techie haven't do anything yet.

But, that is not the point. What I have observed so far "maybe" they have upgraded my account from 512kbps to 4mbps, because my download speed can go up to 200kb/sec with 2mbps cap line (before was 50kb/sec)

But this only happen on certain time. Let say during the day my speed is only around 50kb/sec but after midnight I can get as high as 200 kb/sec.

What gives? So my line is already been cap even they haven't yet upgrade my DSL line speed?

By saying UNIFI... How about the BIZ package...? Do they still capped this package too? TMGILA stated no limit, no FUP, no hold bar... Anyone kind soul can confirmed on this?

@MX510,

You asked for constructive comments on V2 of this thread, similar questions to this have been raised but unanswered.
This is in reference to a quote from the Fair Usage Policy on their Streamyx web site:

"The Fair Usage Policy automatically identifies the extremely heavy users and manages their bandwidth in order to protect the service of all our other customers."

How can the FUP be deemed fair when there is no quantifiable criteria from which users can determine whether they are identified as an extremely heavy user?

The current implementation appears arbitrary and used as a panacea in response to certain users' complaints.

oo..forgot unifi biz add package. that top tm guy remind me how bodowi popular act *cakap tak serupa bikin*

personal slogan make for u *Syarikat Diutamakan, Wang Ringgit Didahulukan*

@MX510,

You asked for constructive comments on V2 of this thread, similar questions to this have been raised but unanswered.
This is in reference to a quote from the Fair Usage Policy on their Streamyx web site:

"The Fair Usage Policy automatically identifies the extremely heavy users and manages their bandwidth in order to protect the service of all our other customers."

How can the FUP be deemed fair when there is no quantifiable criteria from which users can determine whether they are identified as an extremely heavy user?

The current implementation appears arbitrary and used as a panacea in response to certain users' complaints.

Wow that's new. I read it many times and that wasn't there before.

Streamyx technician at my area asking whether they can close the report or not, but although my speed get to normal already, I am still worrying, as someone in v2 version of this thread reported that his/her speed capped again after they close the report.

"The Fair Usage Policy automatically identifies the extremely heavy users and manages their bandwidth in order to protect the service of all our other customers."

- This statement has got me scratching my head. I have been following this capping thread since v1 and am actually quite puzzled as to what I have been reading. I used to think this capping was indiscriminate, across the board and I have been wondering all along how come I don't really feel this slowdown effected by the capping exercise. Come to think of it this capping may NOT be indiscriminate and across the board. Come to think of it this capping may be highly selective and TM is actually doing as they say and ie to "automatically identify the extremely heavy users and manage their bandwidth in order to protect the service of all our other customers."

I have never felt really capped since day 1 but then again I use the internet for mostly email, news and forums. No downloads of movies, music, applications, games and no online gaming. Damn! TM could have been telling the truth all along. If such be case then they already have the number on the heavy users and their usage habits and have been selectively targeting this particular grouping with their newly implemented traffic management strategy.

They doesn't put any information for bandwidth limitation for monthly basis in streamyx packages. This thing will make us wondering around  . I think they should introduce a new package for "Email, news and forums". According to them, it 70%-80% of streamyx user after all. They should make the price lower (RM10-RM15) with 128-384Kbps, so we (heavy downloader), according to them 20%-30% of streamyx users doesn't sure the lite users. Well, TMnet making a lot of money for this, even 1MBps with unlimited for RM88 is overprice in here... Come on, other country doesn't charge that much for their 25MBps. Yayaya... Malaysia is malaysia, but TM is one of the biggest company in here and have government support, why the hell they still so greedy. they should charge it for RM20-RM30 for that.

They doesn't put any information for bandwidth limitation for monthly basis in streamyx packages. This thing will make us wondering around  . I think they should introduce a new package for "Email, news and forums". According to them, it 70%-80% of streamyx user after all. They should make the price lower (RM10-RM15) with 128-384Kbps, so we (heavy downloader), according to them 20%-30% of streamyx users doesn't sure the lite users. Well, TMnet making a lot of money for this, even 1MBps with unlimited for RM88 is overprice in here... Come on, other country doesn't charge that much for their 25MBps. Yayaya... Malaysia is malaysia, but TM is one of the biggest company in here and have government support, why the hell they still so greedy. they should charge it for RM20-RM30 for that.

A new study suggests that the United States could do better when it comes to home ISP prices. The Technology Policy Institute's latest survey of the global high speed Internet market finds that US residential broadband subscription rates have "remained fairly stable" over the last three years, rising by just two percent.

That's good, of course, since they didn't go way up. But residential broadband prices have fallen in most other countries, the paper notes—in some instances by as much as 40 percent.

The survey also found that prices in the United States for "triple play" plans are some of the most expensive among Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) member nations.....

I am just trying to make sense of what is actually happening. I am neither for nor against TM. I have no idea what TM's definition is for 'heavy' or 'light' usage.

yes yes I fully agree that TM is too expensive. They should charge like this:

1mbps = RM20
2mbps = RM40
4mbps = RM80

yes yes I fully agree that TM is too expensive. They should charge like this:

1mbps = RM20
2mbps = RM40
4mbps = RM80

Actually it is applied to most ISP in Malaysia. And for almost 10 years of broadband in Malaysia, we only see terms and conditions revision, not prices revision.

yes yes I fully agree that TM is too expensive. They should charge like this:

1mbps = RM20
2mbps = RM40
4mbps = RM80

Wow that's new. I read it many times and that wasn't there before.

- This statement has got me scratching my head. I have been following this capping thread since v1 and am actually quite puzzled as to what I have been reading. I used to think this capping was indiscriminate, across the board and I have been wondering all along how come I don't really feel this slowdown effected by the capping exercise. Come to think of it this capping may NOT be indiscriminate and across the board. Come to think of it this capping may be highly selective and TM is actually doing as they say and ie to "automatically identify the extremely heavy users and manage their bandwidth in order to protect the service of all our other customers."
Just my 2cts!

maybe TM can try this idea, and be more open? http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/spee...itisation.shtml

Thanks for sharing.

Standalone broadband is truly what we're looking for. I personally don't care about and don't need the IPTV or DECT phone when it comes to Unifi packages. Not saying I'm using Unifi though. I use 1Mbps streamyx.

*Sigh*

And no contract.

man i get ping of 400 now...and my speed is like 100kbps...I am on a 4mbps no less

Thanks for sharing.

Standalone broadband is truly what we're looking for. I personally don't care about and don't need the IPTV or DECT phone when it comes to Unifi packages. Not saying I'm using Unifi though. I use 1Mbps streamyx.

*Sigh*

By the time Unifi reaches our locations, it will probably be capped/throttled/quota implemented and our speed will be much the same as our current package. The only difference is we will be paying twice the amount.

Meanwhile the current Unifi (preferred customers) will have moved on to the next great offering from TM and the cycle will repeat ad nauseam.

maybe TM can try this idea, and be more open? http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/spee...itisation.shtml

My area has UniFi already. Should I upgrade?

yes yes I fully agree that TM is too expensive. They should charge like this:

1mbps = RM20
2mbps = RM40
4mbps = RM80

Come on man. You do know ringgit depreciates by 2-3% annually due to inflation right? 

You can get a char-kuey-tiau and Teh Tarik for RM6, and you expect ISP to charge you 3 char-kuey tiau price for 1 month ?

Just saying though.

Bandwidth is getting cheaper by time. And where you get that food for that price? Damn expensive. At 5 star hotel?

Bandwidth is getting cheaper by time. And where you get that food for that price? Damn expensive. At 5 star hotel?

In economy, it's unlikely the price of goods will come down beyond a point. What the manufacturer does is normally giving out more for the same price. So it's unlikely for ISP in malaysia to slash their pricing to ridiculously low price of 3 char-kueh-tiau for a month! It's more likely that they will give more bandwidth and speed for the same price.  Take Iphone for example. The pricing of these phones will NEVER come down beyond RM1500, but Apple will just give you MORE for RM2000 in their future products.

I was just trying to show you that , you cannot expect ISP to charge only RM20 / month for 1mbps connection. RM20 is not very big in malaysia you know. Watch 2 movies, eat 3 meals gone already. Prices of goods and commodity keeps going up. Raw materials also go up. Wagers also need to go up to catch up. ISP needs to pay more for more qualified people to manage their networks, and they are not doing you a charity.

5 star hotel charkuey tiau costs RM12 per plate.  RM4 - RM5 at KL already hawker stalls depending on the number of prawns they put in. You seldom eat outside is it? Eat more in KL and you will know how low the purchasing power of Ringgit is.

Bottom line is, ringgit's purchasing power has eroded so much since the 1970s as compared to Singapore/Brunei dollar. For RM20 is like only S$ 8. You think S$8 can get you 1mbps in singapore?

In economy, it's unlikely the price of goods will come down beyond a point. What the manufacturer does is normally giving out more for the same price. So it's unlikely for ISP in malaysia to slash their pricing to ridiculously low price of 3 char-kueh-tiau for a month! It's more likely that they will give more bandwidth and speed for the same price.  Take Iphone for example. The pricing of these phones will NEVER come down beyond RM1500, but Apple will just give you MORE for RM2000 in their future products.

I was just trying to show you that , you cannot expect ISP to charge only RM20 / month for 1mbps connection. RM20 is not very big in malaysia you know. Watch 2 movies, eat 3 meals gone already. Prices of goods and commodity keeps going up. Raw materials also go up. Wagers also need to go up to catch up. ISP needs to pay more for more qualified people to manage their networks, and they are not doing you a charity.

5 star hotel charkuey tiau costs RM12 per plate.  RM4 - RM5 at KL already hawker stalls depending on the number of prawns they put in. You seldom eat outside is it? Eat more in KL and you will know how low the purchasing power of Ringgit is.

Bottom line is, ringgit's purchasing power has eroded so much since the 1970s as compared to Singapore/Brunei dollar. For RM20 is like only S$ 8. You think S$8 can get you 1mbps in singapore?

In economy, it's unlikely the price of goods will come down beyond a point. What the manufacturer does is normally giving out more for the same price. So it's unlikely for ISP in malaysia to slash their pricing to ridiculously low price of 3 char-kueh-tiau for a month! It's more likely that they will give more bandwidth and speed for the same price.  Take Iphone for example. The pricing of these phones will NEVER come down beyond RM1500, but Apple will just give you MORE for RM2000 in their future products.

I was just trying to show you that , you cannot expect ISP to charge only RM20 / month for 1mbps connection. RM20 is not very big in malaysia you know. Watch 2 movies, eat 3 meals gone already. Prices of goods and commodity keeps going up. Raw materials also go up. Wagers also need to go up to catch up. ISP needs to pay more for more qualified people to manage their networks, and they are not doing you a charity.

5 star hotel charkuey tiau costs RM12 per plate.  RM4 - RM5 at KL already hawker stalls depending on the number of prawns they put in. You seldom eat outside is it? Eat more in KL and you will know how low the purchasing power of Ringgit is.

Bottom line is, ringgit's purchasing power has eroded so much since the 1970s as compared to Singapore/Brunei dollar. For RM20 is like only S$ 8. You think S$8 can get you 1mbps in singapore?

Come on man. You do know ringgit depreciates by 2-3% annually due to inflation right? 

You can get a char-kuey-tiau and Teh Tarik for RM6, and you expect ISP to charge you 3 char-kuey tiau price for 1 month ?

Just saying though.

soul2soul is right. That pricing structure I proposed earlier is too optimistic.

Perhaps the following may be a more equitable pricing for both ISP & user:

1mbps = $40
2mbps = $80
4mbps = $120

In economy, it's unlikely the price of goods will come down beyond a point. What the manufacturer does is normally giving out more for the same price. So it's unlikely for ISP in malaysia to slash their pricing to ridiculously low price of 3 char-kueh-tiau for a month! It's more likely that they will give more bandwidth and speed for the same price.  Take Iphone for example. The pricing of these phones will NEVER come down beyond RM1500, but Apple will just give you MORE for RM2000 in their future products.

I was just trying to show you that , you cannot expect ISP to charge only RM20 / month for 1mbps connection. RM20 is not very big in malaysia you know. Watch 2 movies, eat 3 meals gone already. Prices of goods and commodity keeps going up. Raw materials also go up. Wagers also need to go up to catch up. ISP needs to pay more for more qualified people to manage their networks, and they are not doing you a charity.

5 star hotel charkuey tiau costs RM12 per plate.  RM4 - RM5 at KL already hawker stalls depending on the number of prawns they put in. You seldom eat outside is it? Eat more in KL and you will know how low the purchasing power of Ringgit is.

Bottom line is, ringgit's purchasing power has eroded so much since the 1970s as compared to Singapore/Brunei dollar. For RM20 is like only S$ 8. You think S$8 can get you 1mbps in singapore?

Hi, so bad that TMNUT has been capping the internet user,

i'm now in japan, and if offers 20mbps speed for only 3,000 yen, mnothly (apporx RM120.00) with 350gbps cap)

i'm will be in malaysia next week and will be suffering from snail broadband by TMNUT, so pity

i wish i can be japanese

No you are not too optimistic, however what I am suggesting is we deserved more speed than it is not. For RM88 we paid for 512kbps then 1mbps for a long time that is when RM is still fixed. Now RM value is already increasing, we can buy more USD than before, so we deserved to get more.

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Added on December 17, 2010, 12:41 pm

I don't want to reason with you, because first, I think Apple is damn expensive. So since you have that mentality of getting something at any cost, then so be it. I can use RM50 for 3 to 4 days living as a student KL, depend on my desire. I don't watch movies. In fact my second home would be my class/library. So don't apply your concept of living to me. Just because you think RM20 is not enough, why don't you think about getting the most of that RM20? But I do believe we are underpaid.

exactly after 8pm after my ping jump by 50ms for all side except local and download speed flux like hell

the speed graph is even worse than a dying person dying of heart attack   
if doctor were to see it.. they will long say it good bye case

Come on man. You do know ringgit depreciates by 2-3% annually due to inflation right? 

You can get a char-kuey-tiau and Teh Tarik for RM6, and you expect ISP to charge you 3 char-kuey tiau price for 1 month ?

Just saying though.

+1 for Apple is damn expensive
buy another hardware that more cheaper and have more function than apple won't you?

my graph even worse, like dead people want become zombile liao, it stays low for long time and gets high for 2~3 seconds and goes dead again

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Added on December 17, 2010, 1:33 pm
+ 9001, why buy macbook pro when alienware m17x is same price higher specs?

No you are not too optimistic, however what I am suggesting is we deserved more speed than it is not. For RM88 we paid for 512kbps then 1mbps for a long time that is when RM is still fixed. Now RM value is already increasing, we can buy more USD than before, so we deserved to get more.

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Added on December 17, 2010, 12:41 pm

First, I think Apple is damn expensive. So since you have that mentality of getting something at any cost, then so be it. I can use RM50 for 3 to 4 days living as a student KL, depend on my desire. I don't watch movies. In fact my second home would be my class/library. So don't apply your concept of living to me. Just because you think RM20 is not enough, why don't you think about getting the most of that RM20? But I do believe we are underpaid.

The problem in here is, Streamyx is not char kueh tiau... char kueh tiau is a food, movie is also not streamyx, you pay perview. Char kueh tiau is... like you know is a food, the price also depend with the gerai or restaurant and their ingredient. Streamyx is technology (and services also), TMnet don't use any new and fresh ingredient to make a Streamyx bandwidth (well, maybe electric perhap, and lazy ass employer too). They just need to upgrade their infrastructure to support our demand and not complain that we user abuse their bandwidth (come on! don't you feel our situation is reverse? we customer are the one that should complaint, not them), and that why our government give them money to do so every year. So the older the technology, the newer hardware their use and the bigger their bandwidth, the lower the price will go. Do you expect to sell computer from year 1999, if you buy it for RM4000 and sell it to RM4000 also? But in streamyx, we stuck at 1Mbps for many years (maybe 10 years) . Do you still expect they can bankrupt with 1Mbp/s with RM20 + shitty service? Come on!, even in japanese can get 20Mbps for RM120. Why can't major/monopoly/richest company like TM can't do so?

bonus: if char kueh tiau is bali, do you want to paid it also? and we are not in singapore my friend, we are in Malaysia, when you can buy the food for the cheapest price (and shitty streamyx)

If you can come out with a business model in current malaysian climate to offer RM20/month do let me know ok?

So don't apply your concept of living to me. Just because you think RM20 is not enough, why don't you think about getting the most of that RM20?

So you basically got the gist of my post which is
1. inflation kills off the value of ringgit every year.
2. it's not that broadband pricings are expensive in Malaysia, it's that our income has not catch up with inflation, hence the perceived "expensive pricing of RM88 for 1mbps internet".

If you are earning RM8000 a month (equivalent to S$3300), RM88 does not look expensive. But if you are earning RM2000 a month, RM88 is expensive.

3. my mentality is also if you cannot afford something, DON'T use it. if you cannot afford RM88 internet for 1mbps - then you DON't subscribe to internet. It's that simple.

I think the pricing of internet is just about right at the moment, yes and I agree with you, we are all underpaid. The solution here is not so much to decrease the price of internet, but to increase our own income to beat inflation, so that RM88 will become like chicken feed to us. Correct or not?

1. ya3, we know about that already, every others country in the worldalso have that problem (which raise the question, why the hell other country can provide faster internet speed and we can't) but so do the internet... the more advanced and better the hardware they use, the more cheaper they distribute the bandwidth. But, let face it, we stuck at 512KBps at RM66 for how many year? 1MBp/s at RM88 how many years? Unless they don't upgrade their infrastructure, maybe I don't ask for more if they can provide at least 70% of the packages speed, I gladly happy paid RM88 for 1MBp/s every month... but 1MBp/s with crappy service + cap + etc + fup is a bit of overprice for. Why it is so hard for them provide a 1MBp/s, 2MBp/s or 4MBp/s. Come on! many develop country like us have a fast connection with good value compare to our. Year 2020 is 9 years, 14 days to come and we still stuck at 1MB/ps @ RM88? Come on! you want to stuck with 1MBp/s at RM88 forever?

2. That why you can't find a cheap 1Mbp/s for $8 at Singapore, cause people in the is so rich... Don't have a pity for us that have salary below than RM2000?

3. So basically, if I can't buy a house for RM100000 with my RM1800 salary, don't buy it? Or if I want to buy a motorcyles for RM3000 with my RM1800, don't buy it also? Or if my family is poor, I can't study in college and have a better life? (ha3, don't know this out of topic or not)

1. You have the option of terminating streamyx you know.  I terminated Astro because I think they overcharge me for a crappy RM90+ /month for repetitive programs and advertisements.

2. If you cannot afford something, you don't use it. If you want to use it, but can't afford it, then EARN more money la. Take up part-time job, go upgrade your skills, etc. That's the right way. Our grandparents / parents did that in the 1970s and 60s - HARDWORKING. Youngsters nowadays - haih - too pampered and expect government to fix everything for them.

3. Haiyo, this is like you see some people drive BMW and Mercedes, but your income can only afford a motorcycle. What to do? drive motorcycle lor - rehda la. If you want to drive mercedes, then you have to work hard lo. You expect the Mercedes to reduce the price of their cars for you so that you can drive it meh?

ayo yo.

1. ya3, we know about that already, every others country in the worldalso have that problem (which raise the question, why the hell other country can provide faster internet speed and we can't) but so do the internet... the more advanced and better the hardware they use, the more cheaper they distribute the bandwidth. But, let face it, we stuck at 512KBps at RM66 for how many year? 1MBp/s at RM88 how many years? Unless they don't upgrade their infrastructure, maybe I don't ask for more if they can provide at least 70% of the packages speed, I gladly happy paid RM88 for 1MBp/s every month... but 1MBp/s with crappy service + cap + etc + fup is a bit of overprice for. Why it is so hard for them provide a 1MBp/s, 2MBp/s or 4MBp/s. Come on! many develop country like us have a fast connection with good value compare to our. Year 2020 is 9 years, 14 days to come and we still stuck at 1MB/ps @ RM88? Come on! you want to stuck with 1MBp/s at RM88 forever?

2. That why you can't find a cheap 1Mbp/s for $8 at Singapore, cause people in the is so rich... Don't have a pity for us that have salary below than RM2000?

3. So basically, if I can't buy a house for RM100000 with my RM1800 salary, don't buy it? Or if I want to buy a motorcyles for RM3000 with my RM1800, don't buy it also? Or if my family is poor, I can't study in college and have a better life? (ha3, don't know this out of topic or not)

I'm can't terminate the internet, cause it the only thing that help me do my work. In my area only have streamyx and dial-up. Ya, that why our pak cik, mak cik use computer for typing, surfing and etc, because they don't want to exploit the technology like we do. Yeah, all of us expected the government to fix this... cause they got the power to do so, and we don't. Unless we all stick together

1. You have the option of terminating streamyx you know.  I terminated Astro because I think they overcharge me for a crappy RM90+ /month for repetitive programs and advertisements.

2. If you cannot afford something, you don't use it. If you want to use it, but can't afford it, then EARN more money la. Take up part-time job, go upgrade your skills, etc. That's the right way. Our grandparents / parents did that in the 1970s and 60s - HARDWORKING. Youngsters nowadays - haih - too pampered and expect government to fix everything for them.

3. Haiyo, this is like you see some people drive BMW and Mercedes, but your income can only afford a motorcycle. What to do? drive motorcycle lor - rehda la. If you want to drive mercedes, then you have to work hard lo. You expect the Mercedes to reduce the price of their cars for you so that you can drive it meh?

ayo yo.