errrr, sg police pays fresh grads better because they can carry forward their seniority from NS?

Hi guys I will be starting my work in Singapore next Tuesday as an Assistant Project Engineer.

I kinda just found out that I will have the 'Assistant' tag in front (the job was advertised as Project Engineer) and they're paying me a pretty measly probation pay of $2200 although I have a Masters degree. But I am a fresh grad with no prior working experience and I thought that it still beats the offers I get from Malaysia, so yeah.

Would you guys take the job, under these circumstances?

Police jobs are open to Singaporeans and PRs. Other non-sensitive govt depts will employ foreigners. So, no... it is fair to compare as civil servant starting salaries are a good indication of the median in the market.
If you agree to be employed by a Chinaman company, you really shouldn't complain about low salaries, not caring about your degree(s) or working long hours. You should already know that it's a given.

If you agree to be employed by a Chinaman company, you really shouldn't complain about low salaries, not caring about your degree(s) or working long hours. You should already know that it's a given.

Good attitude. From the little that you've written here, you actually write and express yourself quite well. Why are you not applying to all the many, many MNCs, blue chip SGX listed companies in Singapore rather than some unknown Chinaman company?

that is why in university there is final year project (fyp), individual & group assignments. can't agree one just generalized project management is not learned in uni. there is also a subject operations management. basic management. a hiring manager will ask about the fresh grad candidate on this fyp to gauge him/her in one of the hiring criteria. confidence of speaking, extra-curricular taking in uni, etc... does not limit to china, myanmar, etc...

depends on company business nature & project nature. a project engineer may involve from preliminary design stage to completion stage, handover.
input design ideas and coordinate with other disciplines, produce design drawings (CAD! one may have drafter to assist), prepare BQ (may refer historical project reference, ask from vendors, contractors, etc), tender documents, interview bidders, attend progress meeting, site-coordination, gantt chart, site preparation, risk assessment, method statements, liasing with authorities, manage sub-con, daily/weekly/monthly report, any tasks assigned by project manager/superior, go hardware shop buy with cash, stock-take, manage feedback and maintain good relationship with clients, manage labours, on-site trouble-shoot, (factory acceptance test) FAT, SAT (site acceptance test), etc...

some may also need to understand the operation process for a plant/factory or from oil & gas exploration to production stages, upstream to downstream and vice versa, all depends on the type of project.  without understanding of the operation process one may not have available resources to manage a project well and upkeep within cost budget. for this type of project, the engineersss need to start to discuss with the client/owner/developer's requirements the operation process to design...

there are many things to learn and one's willingness to learn on-job and read.

wow... they do pay their officers very high... fresh grads holding the rank of captain... nice, not to mention a private career that awaits them after that...

I think this is not a good offer, try to apply more companies, big , medium, small company, apply as more as u can and go for interview. Compare all the offers and choose the best suit u. My starting paid is $2500 with only a bachelor degree. The "Assistant" also not for a degree holder, it is for diploma level.

I can't argue with you as I know next to nothing about this issue, but none of my Malaysian friends in Singapore earns close to $3k as a fresh grad, not even a NUS grad who is now working at a government lab who is just earning $2.5k.
I don't. Now I do. 
Trust me, I've sent my fair share of resumes to the Singaporean MNCs with few replies.
Btw, my girlfriend is a fresh grad as well who just finished her ACCA exams.
ch_teo and seantang, you guys are obviously familiar with the working environment in Singapore, care to tell what do you do?

I am aware of that. The thing is, I have been reviewing the approval letter for my employment pass at it clearly states "Project Engineer" as the occupation.

I know I'm probably just being hopeful, but perhaps I am only stuck with the 'Assistant' tag during my probation? The contract did say that there will be a salary review upon completion of the probation period.

I'm really appreciating the great feedback from you guys, thanks a million! 

I am aware of that. The thing is, I have been reviewing the approval letter for my employment pass at it clearly states "Project Engineer" as the occupation.

I know I'm probably just being hopeful, but perhaps I am only stuck with the 'Assistant' tag during my probation? The contract did say that there will be a salary review upon completion of the probation period.

I'm really appreciating the great feedback from you guys, thanks a million! 

am still learning... from mechanical engineer to project engineer to QHSE engineer/internal auditor. no choice to transfer from kl office to sg office due to business unit divestment. still prefer to work in kl...

maybe u will start to know BCA, EMA, SCDF, JTC, PUB, LTA, NEA, MOM, etc...wahaha!

guys, quick question here..

Normally, IF we wanted to work in singapore, we need to apply the permit first or interview first? or in proper question, we need to apply ourself or the company will apply for us?

And, any document needed for the process(if we apply ourself)? Finally, IF after we apply the permit, but we decide not to accept the job at last minute or decide to cabut after few days or week. Will it be any penalty for us?

intarbbew farst.... apply urself but com recommend

yes, a lot... no penalty but bery meassy

Need recommendation to apply ar..? cannot suka suka go apply?

very messy means? blacklist?

recommendation as in the hiring company will help you apply for the work permit/EP.....not until blacklisted lar...but its show that you're not serious.

The work permit/EP/SPass is TIED to the hiring company, if u change job...u have to re-apply the PASS!! so u think u wanna suka suka go apply then change change here n there?

hmm, anyone here always come back Malaysia every weekends?
lol..just curious if there's more msian like myself in s'pore lo..

guess this gonna impact the PR application huh?