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post Oct 18 2010, 06:29 PM, updated 11y ago

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Anyone bought Paloma (24 x 75) or up Fuego (26 x 75)? How you think this area?

Paloma Phase I & II progress. smile.gif

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post Oct 18 2010, 06:42 PM

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paloma i tot at telok pulai there, where is Fuego? Pricing how?
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post Oct 18 2010, 06:54 PM

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post Oct 18 2010, 07:43 PM

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It's a nice development, reasonable price for 26x75 some-more by SD . The only thing I'm concern is, it's near to industry area. Fuego will be launching this coming Saturday, expect long queue on Friday.

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rate up to 4.0%.......good
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post Oct 19 2010, 09:54 AM

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Paloma - Under Construction

Anyone also bought Paloma?


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post Oct 19 2010, 12:14 PM

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[quote=Liuism,Oct 18 2010, 06:42 PM]
paloma i tot at telok pulai there, where is Fuego? Pricing how?

teluk pulai is D'Anjung project.....
this fuego is the last phase of bandar bukit raja? coz i remember few years back the SA told me 26x75 is the largest unit if no mistaken....
546k.....but how big is the built up ya?




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post Oct 19 2010, 01:03 PM

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Fuego gross built-Up is from approx. 2,444 sq ft .. the dining area is actually occupied 2 floors. According to SA, they will also launching semi-d or 2.5 super link beside the lake (dunno when?). More projects coming up for bandar bukit raja.

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post Oct 19 2010, 05:29 PM

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[quote=stay_cool,Oct 19 2010, 12:14 PM]
[quote=Liuism,Oct 18 2010, 06:42 PM]
paloma i tot at telok pulai there, where is Fuego? Pricing how?

teluk pulai is D'Anjung project.....
this fuego is the last phase of bandar bukit raja? coz i remember few years back the SA told me 26x75 is the largest unit if no mistaken....
546k.....but how big is the built up ya?
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paloma pricing?
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post Oct 19 2010, 05:40 PM

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hi liuism, Paloma price from RM488k phase1; RM515k for phase2.. all been sold out

r you interested fuego? they lauching this saturday..
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post Oct 19 2010, 08:12 PM

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I'm one of the N'Lot owner for Paloma Phase II

I failed to get any unit for Phase I and even for Phase II I failed my bid to get corner unit due to bad timing (I thought I'm earliest to queue)

Anyway, I'm aiming for another 2 1/2 Fuego alike design next year.

The only good thing about BBR is the greenery.. nothing else.


*shoosh away speculators and investors* haha

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post Oct 20 2010, 09:29 AM

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ed1torz, are you investor? the 2 1/2 Fuego is beside lake?

What do you think the current Fuego superlink?


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post Oct 20 2010, 10:02 AM

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I'm not investor and yes, the next 2 1/2 is next to lake!

But the price should be btw 800k to 1mil
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post Oct 20 2010, 10:16 AM

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i see, but you can buy few houses in 1 area.. so envy you tongue.gif


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post Oct 20 2010, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(messi88 @ Oct 19 2010, 05:40 PM)
hi liuism, Paloma price from RM488k phase1; RM515k for phase2.. all been sold out

r you interested fuego? they lauching this saturday..
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interested oso no point la, no $$$
im not to fond in the BBR area, worry about the meru road traffic
hectic road leh rclxub.gif
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post Oct 20 2010, 11:59 AM

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Is this fuego oso next to the lake??
sorry, i don't know the master plan for this BBR.....just heard from a fren that the lake is very beautiful......
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post Oct 21 2010, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Liuism @ Oct 20 2010, 11:10 AM)
interested oso no point la, no $$$
im not to fond in the BBR area, worry about the meru road traffic
hectic road leh  rclxub.gif
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yes, the road from meru very congested.. hope the developer can do sth to widen the road!


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Is this fuego oso next to the lake??
sorry, i don't know the master plan for this BBR.....just heard from a fren that the lake is very beautiful......
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There is a lake within fuego residential area.. and yes, the lake is very clean and beautiful now. Maybe i try to get a lake picture for you.. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(messi88 @ Oct 19 2010, 01:03 PM)
Fuego gross built-Up is from approx. 2,444 sq ft .. the dining area is actually occupied 2 floors. According to SA, they will also launching semi-d or 2.5 super link beside the lake (dunno when?). More projects coming up for bandar bukit raja.

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Judging from Fuego Floor Plan, the kitchen is huge! I feel weird why it doesnt split to dry n wet kitchen.
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modern facade...

i hope the BBB mode get lower...

it will panic the whole town!
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post Oct 21 2010, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(messi88 @ Oct 21 2010, 11:09 AM)


Added on October 21, 2010, 11:11 am

There is a lake within fuego residential area.. and yes, the lake is very clean and beautiful now. Maybe i try to get a lake picture for you..  whistling.gif
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thanks...messi88, looking forward on the lake pic.....hehe.... rclxms.gif
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post Oct 21 2010, 01:48 PM

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hi staycool, here you are.. smile.gif

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Messi88..... notworthy.gif

is nice ya!!!!! no wonder my fren keep telling me is nice......
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post Oct 21 2010, 02:33 PM

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i think this is not the best spot of the lake scenery..

wait im back to my workcountry ill upload my BB version of the lake...

it's BIU TAI FU!

I like the lake design idea! it's just in accordance to my dream house!
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post Oct 21 2010, 02:41 PM

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sui sui sui..... rclxms.gif
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post Oct 21 2010, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Oct 21 2010, 02:33 PM)
i think this is not the best spot of the lake scenery..

wait im back to my workcountry ill upload my BB version of the lake...

it's BIU TAI FU!

I like the lake design idea! it's just in accordance to my dream house!
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hey, waiting for your lake design rclxm9.gif hopefully your dream house too icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 23 2010, 02:20 AM

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where is this lake located?

hey.. anyone taking queue for Feugo Superlink now? Can share us latest queue?.. I plan to do visit tomorrow afternoon for kek poh only ... tongue.gif
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post Oct 23 2010, 02:28 PM

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so how's the launching for Fuego?
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any new single story house around rm200k at klang now day??planing to get a house for coming month...now in seaching....any idea??
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post Oct 25 2010, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Liuism @ Oct 23 2010, 02:28 PM)
so how's the launching for Fuego?
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i reached there about 3pm last saturday, mostly sold out except 7 or 8 units facing sapadu highway.. anyone can update sunday sales? when feugo2 will be launching?
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the road there still a big problem.
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the buyers are mostly home-stayer or investor.........
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post Oct 25 2010, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(messi88 @ Oct 25 2010, 10:41 AM)
i reached there about 3pm last saturday, mostly sold out except 7 or 8 units facing sapadu highway.. anyone can update sunday sales? when feugo2 will be launching?
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500k house got so good response hor

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post Oct 26 2010, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Liuism @ Oct 25 2010, 07:17 PM)
500k house got so good response hor
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just read from a forum that saying one of the project launched at equine park on last sat cost million million punya......but ppl oledi BBB from wed liao..... doh.gif

so this 500k DST, consider a norm nowadays liao....... brows.gif
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QUOTE(nicky1112001 @ Oct 23 2010, 05:44 PM)
any new single story house around rm200k at klang now day??planing to get a house for coming month...now in seaching....any idea??
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which part of klang??? if in meru or kapar ... i think got la ...

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QUOTE(stay_cool @ Oct 26 2010, 09:24 AM)
just read from a forum that saying one of the project launched at equine park on last sat cost million million punya......but ppl oledi BBB from wed liao..... doh.gif

so this 500k DST, consider a norm nowadays liao....... brows.gif
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sien lor, i was thinking how in future i am going to own a house
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QUOTE(Liuism @ Oct 26 2010, 11:44 AM)
sien lor, i was thinking how in future i am going to own a house
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i think we still afford to buy......but our kids, jialat lo..... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(stay_cool @ Oct 26 2010, 11:54 AM)
i think we still afford to buy......but our kids, jialat lo..... rclxub.gif
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how wor? any advise?
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i think 20 years later our kids still can own property, but 500k++ for studio house in Klang city..
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thats why govt introduce 2 generation loan! hahah
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QUOTE(Liuism @ Oct 26 2010, 06:22 PM)
how wor? any advise?
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you can write your will that your property goes to ur kids. and when you are no more here, they can either stay in the house they inherited or sell it off and buy a better house. so they don't have to start from scratch. smile.gif
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QUOTE(WWJD @ Oct 27 2010, 10:30 AM)
you can write your will that your property goes to ur kids. and when you are no more here, they can either stay in the house they inherited or sell it off and buy a better house. so they don't have to start from scratch.  smile.gif
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lol, i mean getting a house for myself
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QUOTE(Liuism @ Oct 27 2010, 05:44 PM)
lol, i mean getting a house for myself
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hi....Liuism, follow this thread....

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1615808

sounds not bad hor, 90% + 7%....
but again, buy affordable property
later this 7% so called personal loan also drag u die, man........ rclxub.gif

correct me if im wrong......
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May I know Fuego sold out liao?

Planning to visit last week but got thing to do...I think no more already....so many people are rich...
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QUOTE(stay_cool @ Oct 28 2010, 10:55 AM)
hi....Liuism, follow this thread....

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1615808

sounds not bad hor, 90% + 7%....
but again, buy affordable property
later this 7% so called personal loan also drag u die, man........ rclxub.gif

correct me if im wrong......
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not much help thou, at the end of the day...if got $ can buy, no $ cannot buy
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Fuego still has two units....kind of facing intersection units.......unfavourable...
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Anyone has information about Fuego phase 2 goin to be launched next week? So sad i will be in oversea that time... there could be another long queue again..
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design about the same. price should be at least 3-5% up. queue may not prevalent with LTV70%. located north of the field. number of units more or less same as phase 1.
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F 2 superlink

26x 75
RM575 000 A3 design
RM579 000 A4 design

Facing field, RM599 000 A4 / RM595 000 A3

Open to public on 27th/11/2010


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heard that this time gonna be their first balloting with 10k cheque.. Should be quite numbers of ppl.
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nowaday the market is very keen on landed property
from Klang to Kajang acquisition all over
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Buy house must ballot wan meh!! sweat.gif
1st time i heard of this thing rclxub.gif

QUOTE(messi88 @ Nov 24 2010, 02:03 PM)
heard that this time gonna be their first balloting with 10k cheque.. Should be quite numbers of ppl.
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ballot some more
it is like take it or leave it
balloted, but not choice unit, let go, let others take it
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balloting for hot cake properties in Klang Valley very common already. This to avoid for long queue and figthing somemore in some places. Soft launch properties can easily sell out in few hours if the location is good. But i doubt why got so many rich ppl out there but not me ... kesian...


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QUOTE(messi88 @ Nov 25 2010, 12:24 PM)
balloting for hot cake properties in Klang Valley very common already. This to avoid for long queue and figthing somemore in some places. Soft launch properties can easily sell out in few hours if the location is good. But i doubt why got so many rich ppl out there but not me ... kesian...
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i wonder is it real demand or speculative in nature
how many of us
1. no place to stay now?
2. so eager to upgrade?
3 or just intend to earn a quick buck
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QUOTE(yoki @ Nov 25 2010, 01:52 PM)
i wonder is it real demand or speculative in nature
how many of us
1. no place to stay now?
2. so eager to upgrade?
3 or just intend to earn a quick buck
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10% real, 90% speculation. Do you not read how some are trying to go round the rules to borrow >90% for multiple props? tongue.gif

It started with popular and good demand areas like Mutiara and Kinrara. When the gorenging pushed prices in these places too high, the gorengers went to secondary places like Cyberjaya, Shah Alam and Klang. Some even went to Penang, JB and even Ipoh. Next, we will see the same thing in remote parts of Kajang, Rawang and Port Klang - if it doesn't crash that soon, that is. Dead fish now comes back to life, suddenly lousy areas all look very good hor... biggrin.gif

If one had invested in 2009, quite safe. Now is a risky time. Then again, it may take a long time for any bubble to burst, e.g. Ireland had a 16 year prop boom until it collapsed last year.

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the nite b4 the actual Phase 1 launching...
already got a small queue @ the main entrance aft ofis close

for own stay, still ok...
but for investment... susah ord...
props now toooo damn high...
imagine, Setia Alam 20x70 @ 588k... how 2 invest...
so prolly that's y ppl r running to nearby location...
BBR still a better bet compare to Aman Perdana...

As for Fuego 2, it will be better loc abit...
Away frm Shahpadu highway...
But take note, there will be a sound barrier located @ Phase 1...
And also, extended towards Lake-view 2.5 Super link coz starting price abt 8xxk onwards...
Else, wait next yr...22x75, estimated price abt 488 - 500k depending on market demand...
Tis shld b opposite Paloma... The piece of land fronting Meru will be on sales by this yr...
it's a business ctr... acording to SA, banks not avail in Setia Alam will prolly get incentive to open here...

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QUOTE(edlim @ Nov 25 2010, 10:21 PM)
the nite b4 the actual Phase 1 launching...
already got a small queue @ the main entrance aft ofis close

acording to SA, banks not avail in Setia Alam will prolly get incentive to open here...
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this one correct or not?
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Hope they can plan for express road access from Meru and Setia Alam. The traffic is terrible. Then only can attract more ppl to start businesses there.

Any G&G and club house in plan too for BBR township?

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QUOTE(yoki @ Nov 26 2010, 12:17 AM)
this one correct or not?
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the Queue?
the Bank?

if queue - confirmed... i was there.... and i saw them...
there was a slight drizzle that day too... few chinese and few bangla/indo...
less than 10 ppl ard 8pm+/-
2day i might kepo2 pass by again... c got anybody Q not...

as for banks - this is wat the SA mention, hope he's not pulling my leg!!!

G&G dunno yet... they might plan - but for highend units kua...
Maybe Semi-D and Bungalow...
They still have a few more land avail...
I was told, they might oso use a piece of land towards Giant or nearer to Setia Alam for BBR Mall...
This i dunno how true... hearsay and implementation is 2 diff. story...
But i guess, the land nearer to Setia Alam, which can be accessed in between the 2 schools @ Precint 8...
which belongs to BBR, tis i thk can fetch premium value - higher chance for G&G but if their lake-side 2.5s selling @ 800+k,
this 1 is kinda far fetched... perhaps same as per Setia Alam Semi-D (900+k or 1mil mark rclxub.gif )

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QUOTE(edlim @ Nov 26 2010, 08:51 AM)
the Queue?
the Bank?

if queue - confirmed... i was there.... and i saw them...
there was a slight drizzle that day too... few chinese and few bangla/indo...
less than 10 ppl ard 8pm+/-
2day i might kepo2 pass by again... c got anybody Q not...

as for banks - this is wat the SA mention, hope he's not pulling my leg!!!

G&G dunno yet... they might plan - but for highend units kua...
Maybe Semi-D and Bungalow...
They still have a few more land avail...
I was told, they might oso use a piece of land towards Giant or nearer to Setia Alam for BBR Mall...
This i dunno how true... hearsay and implementation is 2 diff. story...
But i guess, the land nearer to Setia Alam, which can be accessed in between the 2 schools @ Precint 8...
which belongs to BBR, tis i thk can fetch premium value - higher chance for G&G but if their lake-side 2.5s selling @ 800+k,
this 1 is kinda far fetched... perhaps same as per Setia Alam Semi-D (900+k or 1mil mark  rclxub.gif )
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haha, oopss i mean the bank
seems like it is 'real' demand in this part of KV
pple willing to spend to landed
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actually... lebih 1 tis area...
last time nobody even knows...
and kena beg ppl buy hse in both tis area...
gv goodies, 5/95, etc etc...
NOW... good marketing and thks to investor...
it blooms!!!!
Also thks to both tis developer "fighting" each oth...
simply GORENG price kau2...
Setia Alam more bold coz of its infra...
but heck, investor are also flooding BBR coz of it's size and close proximity wif Setia...
Value is on the address, ONE is KLANG, another SHAH ALAM.

Btw, not oni tis area, many oth areas oso bloom maciam mushroom...
price oso si beh power! >400k lately both landed & appt/condo.
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i think everyone is still panic buying, and LTV70%
will not hurt developer launch
but mostly will hurt subsales
but to own use, nothing to say
buy to sell now, can be difficult
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true... buy now for ownstay still ok (or consider no choice)...
unless targeting deep pocket subsale buyers...
or those wif holding power (enuf $juice$ to hold until time to sell)...
then can afford to wait till market resume or etc (if gone sour)...
bcoz of all tis thg... genuine buyer suffer frm such already steep hse prices... even oth places of Klang oso not spared!
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I think the prices in Klang houses is rediculous.for 20x70 some fetch easily nearly RM 400K,if gomen don impose any restriction soon there won't be any hse below 400K in the near future!! sweat.gif
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QUOTE(pooh88 @ Nov 27 2010, 03:00 AM)
I think the prices in Klang houses is rediculous.for 20x70 some fetch easily nearly RM 400K,if gomen don impose any restriction soon there won't be any hse below 400K in the near future!! sweat.gif
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Dun worry so much...

A house in lower demand areas may be priced at 400K due to speculative forces, but good chance you can rent it for RM400 a month in the end. tongue.gif
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400K for only RM400 rented shakehead.gif
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Dun worry so much...

A house in lower demand areas may be priced at 400K due to speculative forces, but good chance you can rent it for RM400 a month in the end. tongue.gif
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I was there in the area before but what I can see is that the road access leading to the township is rather congested especially when you can see a lot of lorries passing by. Btw, I heard it is close to industrial area but I don't see any factory nearby. Am I missing something here?
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Bukit Raja the earlier phase yes...
Those we located along Jln Haji Sirat...
Juz opposite is small/med shoplots...
as for factory... i didn't recall any...
paintshop, workshop, chopshop got lar...

but for latest launch.... it's juz opposite Setia Alam...
That pc of land got better infra compare to those earlier launches...
at least, BBR did make some effort to beautify tis area...
lake, schools, i thk will have hospital (Sime Darby Medical Ctr?), SD Hostel, SD Nursing College as per their SA info,
and the access road into BBR will be slightly better and easier to access
- all tis frm their master plan map...
but if compare hse price and fitments with Setia Alam...
most will agree, SD give better fitments and workmanship...
but loc... no doubt - Setia much easier access and better...

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Any LYN own or purchase any properties in BBR ? hmm.gif
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aman perdana is close to industrial area and today i passed by, there were a lot of lorries... it's about 3km away from BBR and also SA.

For infra, i very like SA as they have drive thru burger king, starbucks.. so far.. and their pasar malam! this is very convenient for me.. but for home stay, i prefer beautiful lake in BBR in cheaper and larger sfs.
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SA is quite overpriced already at close to RM600k
i think subsales at DU, Subang, PJ area not so exp also
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The difference between SA and DU will be the the former pricing has yet t saturate. There is still room for improvement regardless fundamental or speculation or actual potential. The later is close to stagnant pricing despite better and closer location.

BBR is a remora fish to SA.
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hahaha... bro teng2 oso here smile.gif
suckerfish... yeah... frankly... BBR is riding on Setia's Infra...
Taking advantage of a neighbouring infra's and popularity to attract buyers, kind common wif developers lately...
very much similar like KU, Bkt Rimau, etc taking adv of KK as well as Subang/USJ/Shah Alam township...
unfortunately, AP oso tried to ride on SA's highway as well as pricing...
but when ppl goto their site... too late hehehe...
BBR still kinda better if compare to AP (really near factory)...

btw, Mahsing manage to sell all its semi-D @ Property Fair...
Buy Semi-D for Terrace Link Hse (in Setia Alam)... smile.gif
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bloop... bloop...
but hopefully... it floats...
otherwise... makan sendiri (chiak kah ki)... :">
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Hi Sponge Bob tongue.gif
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I here blow water.
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Paloma construction photo update at Page 1. The development is superb fast.. When Fuego started the construction.. hehe
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si beh slow 1...
but once up and kicking... then it will be pretty fast....
btw, Sun itself all non-bumi unit habis for Phase 2...
so overall, habis liao phase 1 and 2 (left several bumi lots nia)...
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QUOTE(edlim @ Nov 30 2010, 01:34 PM)
si beh slow 1...
but once up and kicking... then it will be pretty fast....
btw, Sun itself all non-bumi unit habis for Phase 2...
so overall, habis liao phase 1 and 2 (left several bumi lots nia)...
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Shapadu highway is far from busy and noisy as compare to Jalan Meru.
As i've checked before the phase 1 unit facing field/playground will not preferred by non Bumi as there's a Surau there.


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it was a hard push...
finally, it was sold off...
coz mgmt agree to put up sound barrier aft VP (approval purpose)
and requested by resident (juz like USJ)...
tis will also cater for their 2.5s Lakeview Super Link (premium price)...
surprisingly, those unit near surau and facing padang...
oso kena pay 22k premium for field view... powerful!
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QUOTE(edlim @ Dec 9 2010, 03:32 PM)
it was a hard push...
finally, it was sold off...
coz mgmt agree to put up sound barrier aft VP (approval purpose)
and requested by resident (juz like USJ)...
tis will also cater for their 2.5s Lakeview Super Link (premium price)...
surprisingly, those unit near surau and facing padang...
oso kena pay 22k premium for field view... powerful!
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yeah, the SA did informed everyone that sound barrier will be built with approval from residents.
yes, kena premium also for the face padang view, mostly takers are non-bumi some more.

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It's not g&g right?
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yeap, it's not g&g, else will be more expensive. i'm truly impressed by the Fuego design, it's like a bungalow type design in DSL house.


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anyone got update on Paloma readiness?

I'm paloma II resident and dont know the progress. Only can view Paloma I along the street and road to Paloma II blocked.

What's the expectation month&year of key delivery for Paloma I?
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Dec 12 2010, 12:06 PM)
anyone got update on Paloma readiness?

I'm paloma II resident and dont know the progress. Only can view Paloma I along the street and road to Paloma II blocked.

What's the expectation month&year of key delivery for Paloma I?
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Heard that next project will be launching soon. 22 x 75.

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yup... heard they gonna launch in mid of Jan.
most likely the middle piece of land...
summary location:

Sales Office | | Maybe Semi-D ||(Lake)|| LakeSide Terrace | | Fuego | | 22x75 (NoName) | | New-Taipan | | Meru.

Indicative price -> 470k +/- estimated built-up 21xx s.f.

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How many of guy & gal plan to buy the new project!!! whistling.gif
Pls reserve 1 unit for me ok sweat.gif
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I'm planning to buy 2 1/2 fuego like to be launch next year...the one facing lake..anyone know when will be the launch?
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The Fuego cost more than 500K shocking.gif
Rich man rclxms.gif

QUOTE(ed1torz @ Dec 13 2010, 11:33 AM)
I'm planning to buy 2 1/2 fuego like to be launch next year...the one facing lake..anyone know when will be the launch?
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I'm planning to sell of my n'lot paloma II (south-east) <- good fengshui

b/u - 2905sqft having the same spec as corner lot

Then put my leg for this 2 1/2 fuego like type


any interest party tongue.gif although it's under construction.
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Dec 13 2010, 06:24 PM)
I'm planning to sell of my n'lot paloma II (south-east) <- good fengshui

b/u - 2905sqft having the same spec as corner lot

Then put my leg for this 2 1/2 fuego like type
any interest party tongue.gif although it's under construction.
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Paloma got face south-east one? I thought only north and south.
What is the unit number?
How much the selling price?

21/2 project that surrounding the lake I think balloting also. Can't guarantee can get it one...wink.gif

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QUOTE(SohoSuccess @ Dec 14 2010, 11:08 PM)
Paloma got face south-east one? I thought only north and south.
What is the unit number?
How much the selling price?

21/2 project that surrounding the lake I think balloting also. Can't guarantee can get it one...wink.gif
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Windows - East and your Gate - South ma...

Paloma Phase 2.
http://www.simedarbyproperty.com/images/ar...plan_paloma.gif
No. Some End Lot, Jln Sumazau 1B/KU5 (Type C)

Bought it at 683k. I think I'll let go only after completion + some margin profit.

Yeah it's balloting. Just hope I got it. Chances is 50% 50%. Get it or not tongue.gif
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QUOTE(pooh88 @ Dec 13 2010, 02:44 PM)
The Fuego cost more than 500K  shocking.gif
Rich man  rclxms.gif
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not 500k, LAGI EXP... its 2 1/2 storey facing lake (a.k.a. Lake-side Super Link) estimate 3xxxs.f. b/up
tis 1 is abt 750k - 800k region... even the last fuego phase 2 oso 575k region...
heard Q1 of nx yr... coz they wud prefer it 2 be completed (or at least almost) so that it wun interrupt Fuego res. moving in...
kinda HIGH premium... hope tis area they will keep it porsh and lifely since it's all superlink...
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Hopefully once i get 1 unit i can get to know all those yuppie ppl around whistling.gif

QUOTE(edlim @ Dec 15 2010, 12:52 PM)
not 500k, LAGI EXP... its 2 1/2 storey facing lake (a.k.a. Lake-side Super Link) estimate 3xxxs.f. b/up
tis 1 is abt 750k - 800k region... even the last fuego phase 2 oso 575k region...
heard Q1 of nx yr... coz they wud prefer it 2 be completed (or at least almost) so that it wun interrupt Fuego res. moving in...
kinda HIGH premium... hope tis area they will keep it porsh and lifely since it's all superlink...
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If it's g&g then will be perfect...
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Went there yesterday, there are some units of Paloma available with 15% increase in price, around 560k++.
All facing south on Jln Sumazau 1E/KU5.
Type A1 : House #8, 12, 16, 32
Type A2 : House #6, 10, 22 26, 30
I think these are previously bumi-lots, they can sell to non-bumi after certain time frame. It's a way to raise the value as well.

Looking at Paloma currently at 560k++ and Fuego for 580k, Fuego is a great buy.
Registered for it as the sales person said there might be some units available due to rejected loans.

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wow... that's an increase smile.gif
but i dun thk it's Bumi lot, coz bumi lots often has "4"
tis is called reserved lots or perhaps droplots which did not release for sales due to nice no. and location (South).

for Fuego, they will also do the same...
that's why, Fuego Phase 1, droplots took very long time for approval (even aft Phase 2 on sales, droplots for Phase 1 did not release and mgmt indicated it might increase to 560k)...
finally release and the reason given (fight for) for that few lots was family/relative takeover aft loan failed... for Phase 2, they might keep certain unit until mgmt decided to increase between 10-15%
Btw, Paloma Phase 2, also got droplot/reserved lot going at 592k and will be annouce later... Frankly, prefer Phase 1 area smile.gif
Free MOT and S&P will oni be till end of tis yr (based on booking date).
Nx year, no more free MOT (>10k savings), oni free S&P.
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yea..

there are ppl ask for my unit even though it's just started construction

i'm paloma phase 2 and 15% increase is daylight robbery. they shouldn't do that.

i prefer paloma design over fuego!
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@ 488k and 515k, its sure a good buy comparing Setia's project and pricing.
so YES, they have done it...
i believe it will be sold coz for tat price, u can't get any superlink ard tis area.
they are catching up with Setia's pricing.

As for design preference... - intermediate units oni;
Paloma A1/A2 vs Fuego A1/A2...
Personally i prefer Fuego space and layout (Dry Kitchen is hidden)
But for ur case, of coz ur endlot looks spacious smile.gif

Price-wise (intermediate)
Paloma 488k/515k best buy
Fuego 546k/575k 2nd phase steep
Re-open Paloma... geez! 560k will definitely makes Fuego good buy now.

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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Dec 28 2010, 03:46 PM)
yea..

there are ppl ask for my unit even though it's just started construction

i'm paloma phase 2 and 15% increase is daylight robbery. they shouldn't do that.

i prefer paloma design over fuego!
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QUOTE(edlim @ Dec 12 2010, 10:28 PM)
yup... heard they gonna launch in mid of Jan.
most likely the middle piece of land...
summary location:

Sales Office |  | Maybe Semi-D ||(Lake)|| LakeSide Terrace |  | Fuego |  | 22x75 (NoName) |  | New-Taipan |  | Meru.

Indicative price -> 470k +/- estimated built-up 21xx s.f.
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Really? 470k seems like a nice price to me...when will it launch? is it confirm?

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Just came back from BBR show unit of their new 22x75 project, abt 2173 sqt. Going to be launched mid of tis month,expected 470k.


Pickup frm another forum...
Yeah, seems like indication is on track... mid of tis mth.
there's already a showhse avail...
u may wanna go look @ it...
and if interested - place ur booking... biggrin.gif
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har..where is this location? 22x75? any more infor?
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it's in the master plan...
the empty land between New Taipan facing meru road and Fuego...
IIRC, it shld b opposite Petunia...
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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 3 2011, 03:17 PM)
it's in the master plan...
the empty land between New Taipan facing meru road and Fuego...
IIRC, it shld b opposite Petunia...
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New Taipan?

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i dunno isit new or not...
but currently there's already a Taipan in BBR...
right opposite sales ofis...
while tis new one - according to their new plan....
will b the 1 facing Meru (right opp. Ellis)...
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Bukit Raja Sime Darby not bad.....Can consider...
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22x75 coming...
if interested... do register smile.gif
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QUOTE(MsApprentice @ Jan 4 2011, 06:02 PM)
Bukit Raja Sime Darby not bad.....Can consider...
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2nd that.....Sime Darby have got full master plan to develop this area...furthermore it's just stones away from Setia Alam...why pay more for smaller built up?
will sure register for the 22x75, but really interesting to know will they really at 470k? or it's a bumi price?
BTW, visited the Fuego show unit, awesome.....the most i like is the 2nd floor living room able to view downstairs.......make it looks spacious...

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The new BBR new lauching the house design like cacat!!! doh.gif
If u go to see the sample house u will curse like hell!!
Not worth to buy!!
Fuego design is the best so far,but all fully taken!! shocking.gif

QUOTE(john@ @ Jan 4 2011, 09:37 PM)
2nd that.....Sime Darby have got full master plan to develop this area...furthermore it's just stones away from Setia Alam...why pay more for smaller built up?
will sure register for the 22x75, but really interesting to know will they really at 470k? or it's a bumi price?
BTW, visited the Fuego show unit, awesome.....the most i like is the 2nd floor living room able to view downstairs.......make it looks spacious...
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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 4 2011, 09:07 PM)
22x75 coming...
if interested... do register smile.gif
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Are you the agent of BBR?
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QUOTE(MsApprentice @ Jan 4 2011, 10:32 PM)
Are you the agent of BBR?
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i wish i am sad.gif
biz so good... commission oso good sigh!
i'm juz an owner of the previous launch biggrin.gif


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The new BBR new lauching the house design like cacat!!! doh.gif
If u go to see the sample house u will curse like hell!!
Not worth to buy!!
Fuego design is the best so far,but all fully taken!!  shocking.gif
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Hi pooh88 smile.gif
u r here too hehehe...
serious ar? i haven't seen yet, the last i went thr...
they cover it up...
btw, isit empty showhse or wif ID?
lucky i followed ur advices on the oth forum and stick to the curr launch biggrin.gif

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As of last Friday morning, there was only a Fuego endlot available, my sis passed coz kinda facing intersection.
BTW what's the frontage of the 2.5 sty?

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Paloma units coming thru after some ppl couldn't get loan. but it's true! it's true that they increase the price by 50k!!!!! I argued they shouldn't do that but he said it's because of demand! 517k becomes 565k.

anyway, i like fuego, really nice design. looks reaaally spacious. available at 575k.
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paloma phase 1 or 2?

coz if phase 1 they will increase it coz when i buy it at paloma 2, the price also increased!
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 5 2011, 10:43 PM)
paloma phase 1 or 2?

coz if phase 1 they will increase it coz when i buy it at paloma 2, the price also increased!
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im not sure really. but like someone said earlier, price increased with nice numbers. no more MOT this year.

people who got RM pls buy. it's really nice looking and spacious. fuego and paloma.


Added on January 5, 2011, 10:56 pmbtw the new one awani as it will be called, launching in two weeks time. i masuk the show unit just now.

price wise 480k.

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The Palomas are Phase I
Fuego intermediate available? Has been surfacing then disappearing, seems like using Fuego as the pull factor, fishing/luring you there to sell the Paloma and the new launch. They might have kept some for later with a higher price tag as they did Paloma.

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But the traffic there quite congested...especially Klang bus station is there...road is small......
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stop buying BBR then...

let them suffer and to warn them not to simply increase the price
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don't think it will be the issue for buyer..nowadays property buyer wont think so much, got new property just buy,buy buy and buy......
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 5 2011, 10:19 PM)
Paloma units coming thru after some ppl couldn't get loan. but it's true! it's true that they increase the price by 50k!!!!! I argued they shouldn't do that but he said it's because of demand! 517k becomes 565k.

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The Palomas are Phase I

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stop buying BBR then...
let them suffer and to warn them not to simply increase the price
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afaik, paloma phase1 early bird price was 488k. phase2 starting 517k.
if a re-released unit is from ph1, then increase to 565k is 77k or 16%. <9m, same house.
one can either see this as creating paper gain for early buyers or pure dev greed.
has anything changed, seen good things coming to the area in the last 9 months? hmm.gif

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Fuego intermediate available?  Has been surfacing then disappearing, seems like using Fuego as the pull factor, fishing/luring you there to sell the Paloma and the new launch.  They might have kept some for later with a higher price tag as they did Paloma.
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Actually, i thk Paloma was intro 1st...
Paloma came wif better fittings and quite attractive price of 488k
Phase 2 received good response...
then they push 1 step further... Fuego... carry fwd frm Paloma's fittings...
And coz Paloma & Fuego got such good response...
Paloma reserved units is open wif higher price...
I believe Fuego will have too - coz when purchase tat time - remember ord got "reserved" units which cnot be selected...
all of them nice no and facing south!
Hence, all open reserved units will prolly see a 15% hike on intro price...
i was also told, irregardless of model - price will be same...

i agree wif paper gain...
all bumi lots not sold will be open @ 15% increase too (or higher if they thk got demand)...

but one thg for sure... the new 22x75
actually, kinda new trend...
i find it unique, stairs @ back smile.gif
but too bad... grd flr aint 2x2 tiles...
the room @ hall can be converted to a big dining area wif sliding glass door...
which indirectly create bigger living hall if it's fully open (sliding door)...
overall ok lar... not really bad... but really depends on personal preference biggrin.gif

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As far as developement is concerned, SD will carry with their job, just that it's slower than most of dev out there.

Definetely, I admit the quality of work carried out is good.

But increasingly the price like nobody business isn't a good thing to start.

Pity!
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edlim, you're right, Paloma was launched earlier.

I meant the 560k Palomas : After turning down the endlot, one of the sales person called up my sis and said Fuego intermediate available, went there, said another person had sold it, no point to wait for droplots, as chances are low and waiting list is long, then kept on promoting the other models. My sales person was professional and efficient but this one smells fishy to me.

To get it now with the extra MOT for own stay is still a good buy but at 15% increase to around 660k, I would shop around longer or go for a corner else where.

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oic... btw, prev. launched already VPed is on iProp.
Levena - 22x75 int. asking 500k onwards - bigger built 22xxs.f.
Corner... err.. 750k region... maybe u can get frm oth place for tis price rite...

mistake... there itself u shld dropby and pass ur chq or straight make 10k cc payment... coz sales agent there quite cunning too...
tis was wat my prev. SA told me...
he showed their oth sales kolik and bos his personal chq claimed its mine and used that as "guarantor" smile.gif
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if I were to buy one of the palomas, I will bring some pegawai hak asasi pembeli dan pengguna or something and ask why should I pay differently from other people who got the same unit size and dimension etc at launch.

even if I didnt get the lot, atleast I cause some ruckus. HAHA.
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 6 2011, 09:35 PM)
if I were to buy one of the palomas, I will bring some pegawai hak asasi pembeli dan pengguna or something and ask why should I pay differently from other people who got the same unit size and dimension etc at launch.

even if I didnt get the lot, atleast I cause some ruckus. HAHA.
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yaya, i agree...let us know the response if you really do that.
developer all are zombie......
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QUOTE(MsApprentice @ Jan 6 2011, 11:07 PM)
yaya, i agree...let us know the response if you really do that.
developer all are zombie......
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Malaysians must be brave enough to fight for their rigths and justice.

further more, the unit was not sold because it's a bumi lot and it's number 4.

So, why should I pay more for a unit which has got a lower resale value? unless i can change number 4 to 3a. tongue.gif


Added on January 7, 2011, 10:39 ambtw, sorry for not trusting some of you earlier in my posts. i was shocked myself to have learned the truth.

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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 7 2011, 10:30 AM)
Malaysians must be brave enough to fight for their rigths and justice.

further more, the unit was not sold because it's a bumi lot and it's number 4.

So, why should I pay more for a unit which has got a lower resale value? unless i can change number 4 to 3a. tongue.gif


Added on January 7, 2011, 10:39 ambtw, sorry for not trusting some of you earlier in my posts. i was shocked myself to have learned the truth.
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ya..number 4 can apply to change it to 3a.
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i had the same problem too...
it was regarding the droplots units...
mine wasn't release even aft Phase 2 was Sold Out!!!
Reason was that, mgmt was thking to increase another 4-10k DAMN!!!
i told its not fair mah... its not even reserved units... juz droplots mah!
luckily they allowed, coz not many droplots and reason was transfer to family member wif ready loan approval...

btw, 4 cnot chg to 3A, even no. oni - e.g. 2A (same as my current hehehe) smile.gif
however, those "reserved" units weren't bumilots,
those bumilots are still avail... those release we quite nice including "8"
they cnot release bumilots until almost CF and get approval frm local council...
even when release, price will be up (following market price too which i thk 15% or more)
moreover, as long they sell the units < ads permit price, e.g. 488k - 900k region, they are still save kua (by law)...
as those unsold unit they can claim requires more resources to sell e.g.
hire parttime staff, promote @ Props Fair etc,
tis kinda large corp sure got kang-tao 1...
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sometimes I kept wondering was it a good buy on Fuego, priced at RM579k for the A4 type????
really so good price meh?

4yrs back, i got my unit in Setia Alam at RM251k for size 20X70, that one also i separuh mati.....now ppl are rushing to buy by balloting 10k for those same 20X70 at rm588k and soon rm618k???

To compare with Setia Alam, obviously Fuego is a good buy at size of 26x75. But yet again, development in BBR is darn slow....nothing at all till now. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 7 2011, 05:45 PM)
sometimes I kept wondering was it a good buy on Fuego, priced at RM579k for the A4 type????
really so good price meh?

4yrs back, i got my unit in Setia Alam at RM251k for size 20X70, that one also i separuh mati.....now ppl are rushing to buy by balloting 10k for those same 20X70 at rm588k and soon rm618k???

To compare with Setia Alam, obviously Fuego is a good buy at size of 26x75. But yet again, development in BBR is darn slow....nothing at all till now.  rclxub.gif
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Slow is better, unlike setia alam want to complete it faster in order to get your money faster so they have neglected the quality of the construction...a lot of setia alam residence are complaining of the cracking problem....it's not a mirror crack...if you are staying in setia alam you should know...try to ask the residence who staying in 1st phase semi-d in setia alam...can be deny setia alam having a good concept....


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actually needless to compare from one town to the another.

go in, like the house design, no issue with the slow development offered by SD, pay your down payment and be happy man.

otherwise, look around again.

when you decided to get it, why bother? if you are investor, you shouldn't be here asking for opinion as you already has the answer for yourself
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Beside Setia Alam & BBR. rolleyes.gif
Is there any other new project housing in Klang? hmm.gif
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i thk got....
but not big time developer... juz worried abandon project nia...
in Klang Utama oso got... quite long... 22x80 or 100 fgt...
abt 300+k, but all sold out sad.gif
Sungai Kapar, Pekan Meru/Kapar oso i saw ads...
pricewise, mid of 2010 was <250k size ard 20x70 or more...

as in SA, fewer older models suffered...
e.g. Imp 2 and 4, certain rows are OK,
some row, even their main-gate start to tilt....
but no worries - BSA will repair for ya although warranty over (goodwill)...
but if u done ur porch tiles, soli ya... either u buy and give the worker tiles up or they will oni cement render it sigh...
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QUOTE(pooh88 @ Jan 7 2011, 09:48 PM)
Beside Setia Alam & BBR. rolleyes.gif
Is there any other new project housing in Klang? hmm.gif
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Upcoming ones : Gamuda Botanic 2.5 storey, WCT Parklands quartet, I&P Bayuemas link houses, and there are some completed semi-d near Tmn Sentosa police station ... from my house hunting around Christmas time.
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Upcoming ones : Gamuda Botanic 2.5 storey, WCT Parklands quartet, I&P Bayuemas link houses, and there are some completed semi-d near Tmn Sentosa police station ... from my house hunting around Christmas time.
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how about klang utama?that place got new project?
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some completed semi-d near Tmn Sentosa police station ...


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January 08, 2011SHAH ALAM, Jan 8 — A four month-old baby girl was found in a box in a vacant premise in Taman Sentosa, Klang today.

Klang Selatan police chief ACP Muhamad Md Yusof said acting on a tip-off at 5.30pm, police rushed to the premise and found the baby girl.

“The fully clothed baby had no personal documents, no signs of BCG jab and no injuries.”

Muhamad said the baby was then sent to Tengku  Ampuan Rahimah Hospital for a medical check-up.

The case is being investigated under Section 317 of Penal Code. — Bernama


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Near SA and BBR there is one...Aman Perdana from mahsing, all semi-d and bunglow...
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 7 2011, 07:25 PM)
actually needless to compare from one town to the another.

go in, like the house design, no issue with the slow development offered by SD, pay your down payment and be happy man.

otherwise, look around again.

when you decided to get it, why bother? if you are investor, you shouldn't be here asking for opinion as you already has the answer for yourself
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Me not investor, just considering whether the bubble gonna come. U see, a house of close to 600k is not a small amount, obviously as a buyer would wish that every penny spent worth the $$. I personally think the price is too much now, as BBR also hike up a lot - thanks to setia alam

Just hope won't need to 'work' for bank forever.... cry.gif







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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 8 2011, 05:05 PM)
Me not investor, just considering whether the bubble gonna come. U see, a house of close to 600k is not a small amount, obviously as a buyer would wish that every penny spent worth the $$. I personally think the price is too much now, as BBR also hike up a lot - thanks to setia alam
Just hope won't need to 'work' for bank forever.... cry.gif
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yr concerns are valid. 600k is a lot of money!

when you buy a house at 300k and easily sell it for 400k, it's not bad whether it's a nice place to stay or not.
when you buy a house at 600k and find it hard to sell at 650k, it becomes nightmare when it doesn't become yr dream home.

5 yrs ago, 600k almost guarantees you a good house in a proven location. now, 600k also so many ????
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yep, amount not small and therefore if it's for home stay, go and look on the offer. if you find it suitable for you and the price is ok for you then green light.


i cannot deny SD is being mad dog lately trying to be cheapskate hot dog seller. too bad, that's what our economy look like as the spot is potentially high as the next oug. that's my personal thought tho` ;p


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but for below 600k to get huge buildups, quality homes, really not bad lah. plus they said they are building golf course to the north of BBR. dunno true or not.

and widening of Meru road.
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cannot blame developer.....it's due to inflation problem...country economy problem....nowaday a cup of tea also around rm1.50, 5 yeas ago only rm1.00.
just blame our government.....
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QUOTE(SohoSuccess @ Jan 8 2011, 11:19 PM)
cannot blame developer.....it's due to inflation problem...country economy problem....nowaday a cup of tea also around rm1.50, 5 yeas ago only rm1.00.
just blame our government.....
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im sorry but thats a bit lame of an excuse.


Added on January 8, 2011, 11:32 pmBTW, did you guys realise Paloma's family area on the first floor, the ceiling a bit cacat? tak rata?

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Does the piece of land in between Aman Perdana & Jln Meru and Jln Sg Puloh & Jln Hj Abdul Manan belong to Sime Darby? Because the sales staff said still got big piece of land for future development & yes, mentioned golf course in the plan as well. But nothing concrete, the model at the sales office is quite small and doesn't show much.

I thought the West Coast Expressway will run thru this area and got an interchange at Jln Meru & Persiaran Setia Prima?

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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 8 2011, 11:31 PM)
im sorry but thats a bit lame of an excuse.


Added on January 8, 2011, 11:32 pmBTW, did you guys realise Paloma's family area on the first floor, the ceiling a bit cacat? tak rata?
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yeye, it is lame excuses! In the matter of fact, the developer is taking it for granted and make more $$$$ due to govt not controlling at the earlier stage hmm.gif

Paloma house memang the top ceiling at first floor abit slanted due to the roof top design.

The land at the north is belong to SD, and proposed to be a golf course.....(hahaha, dunno how many yrs later lo)
But for sure i believe the Jalan Meru stretch need to be widen, which they still have plenty of space to do it now. But somehow too bad for those owner of the row of house of SD nearby the main road side, widening means the house gonna be much closer to the road! rclxub.gif


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yep, amount not small and therefore if it's for home stay, go and look on the offer. if you find it suitable for you and the price is ok for you then green light.
i cannot deny SD is being mad dog lately trying to be cheapskate hot dog seller. too bad, that's what our economy look like as the spot is potentially high as the next oug. that's my personal thought tho` ;p
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actually me oredi booked Fuego for own stay. Just kind a skeptical on the $$$ to be spent. U know, during the time i got the house in setia alam for 251k, it is like spending my whole fortune to own it (those days, banker loan is approx 30% of your monthly salary). So hard to get the loan thru for 200k, struggle like hell to make it happen.

Now, with a blink of eyes, 600k loan is easily applicable (now, banker offers up to 70% of your monthly salary as calculation of loan package!). Ini semua pakatan la, between the developer-banker-govt to make more $$$, but yet the people getting poorer! sweat.gif

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Agreed.

But Fuego is nice to stay la bro. Not sure about the location as I stay in KJaya and work in Bangsar but the house is really, really nice. You will feel like you're living in a bungalow.
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ken7908, welcome to 2 generation loan scheme.

according to our minister, you have 2 generation living in the house ma, therefore the loan can be pro-long to 2 generation. smile.gif

i've went to the site many times before I decide on my purchase.

i think we made the right choice beside the "own-stay" thinking.
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frankly, cant deny that price of raw materials has increase quite a sum during the past 5yrs... the same quotation 3yrs ago cant be applied now...
but the fact that hse price increased such a sum isn't really justified...
my opinion, it's purely driven by greed as well as current up-trend...

as for loan, i thk our gomen still stick to 30-35yrs max loan or to age 60 now...
hence, having it brought fwd to 2nd generation might not be intro juz yet...
but for loan margin, i thk 50% is max by most bankers...
as they have to consider buyer's payment ability when worst case whr rates are up to 6-7% p/a
unless they dun mind lelong in which 600k hse isn't ez to attract "crowd"...
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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 9 2011, 01:20 PM)
frankly, cant deny that price of raw materials has increase quite a sum during the past 5yrs... the same quotation 3yrs ago cant be applied now...
but the fact that hse price increased such a sum isn't really justified...
my opinion, it's purely driven by greed as well as current up-trend...

as for loan, i thk our gomen still stick to 30-35yrs max loan or to age 60 now...
hence, having it brought fwd to 2nd generation might not be intro juz yet...
but for loan margin, i thk 50% is max by most bankers...
as they have to consider buyer's payment ability when worst case whr rates are up to 6-7% p/a
unless they dun mind lelong in which 600k hse isn't ez to attract "crowd"...
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kawan, itu loan punye cerita, i can update sama u based on real experience just a week ago.
Assume u dont have any commitment and so-fore, you gaji monthly is rm4k, u can loan up to 70% which is monthly commitment of RM2.8k = u are qualified ambil loan of about RM600k for 35yrs repayment. drool.gif

Banker allow max loan amount up to 70% of your salary (minus current commitment), up to 70yrs old of age. This is the latest i got to know, and was shocked. VERY TAMAK banker leh, encourage ppl to buy buy buy buy! So, the 2 generation payment story oredi begun! doh.gif
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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 9 2011, 04:26 PM)
kawan, itu loan punye cerita, i can update sama u based on real experience just a week ago.
Assume u dont have any commitment and so-fore, you gaji monthly is rm4k, u can loan up to 70% which is monthly commitment of RM2.8k = u are qualified ambil loan of about RM600k for 35yrs repayment.  drool.gif

Banker allow max loan amount up to 70% of your salary (minus current commitment), up to 70yrs old of age. This is the latest i got to know, and was shocked. VERY TAMAK banker leh, encourage ppl to buy buy buy buy! So, the 2 generation payment story oredi begun!    doh.gif
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This is correct, especially from foreign bank, condition is your CCRIS record is clean!!.
I like Fuego very much......anyone would like to let go?? tongue.gif
don't think still can get it from the waiting list....

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if you are really interested, start taking up your hp and dialling to BBR sales office. hmm.gif

does this 22x75 having 2 phases? usually phase 1 is cheaper & they start crawling the price for 2nd phase
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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 9 2011, 04:26 PM)
kawan, itu loan punye cerita, i can update sama u based on real experience just a week ago.
Assume u dont have any commitment and so-fore, you gaji monthly is rm4k, u can loan up to 70% which is monthly commitment of RM2.8k = u are qualified ambil loan of about RM600k for 35yrs repayment.  drool.gif

Banker allow max loan amount up to 70% of your salary (minus current commitment), up to 70yrs old of age. This is the latest i got to know, and was shocked. VERY TAMAK banker leh, encourage ppl to buy buy buy buy! So, the 2 generation payment story oredi begun!    doh.gif
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Damn... serious ar!!! Banker manyak confident wor like tat...
70% manyak dangerous wor...
wat to do... biz is biz mah rite...
i guess bank used a certain formula tat ur salary wun b stagnant in future...
hence, allow 70% maybe @ young age... rclxms.gif

bro John, u into Fengshui?
If not, there's still 1 unit of Phase 1 (shld still be same price)...
intermediate, facing back alley (shld not have any traffic since its backyard)...

as for the new 22x75, some1 said it might be 437k wor... isit true?
prolly the 470-480k is indicative for phase 2, slightly bigger built-up?
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bro John, u into Fengshui?
If not, there's still 1 unit of Phase 1 (shld still be same price)...
intermediate, facing back alley (shld not have any traffic since its backyard)...
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Hi Lim, be honest i'm very into Feng Shui, the salesgal did show me that unit, but i can't take it.
if the price for 22x75 is RM437k, it's a steal already, is SD's confidence running low? tongue.gif


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QUOTE(john@ @ Jan 9 2011, 11:24 PM)
Hi Lim, be honest i'm very into Feng Shui, the salesgal did show me that unit, but i can't take it.
if the price for 22x75 is RM437k, it's a steal already, is SD's confidence running low?  tongue.gif
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No way its gonna be 437K. The george guy said 480K or higher
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QUOTE(john@ @ Jan 9 2011, 11:24 PM)
Hi Lim, be honest i'm very into Feng Shui, the salesgal did show me that unit, but i can't take it.
if the price for 22x75 is RM437k, it's a steal already, is SD's confidence running low?  tongue.gif
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that's a good sign! icon_rolleyes.gif
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I like the new 22x75 design. Good concept n modern design. Dunno n lot cost how much?

I heard junction at meru gotta completed in march 2010 too.
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No way its gonna be 437K. The george guy said 480K or higher
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itu georgie guy called me to inform 437k onwards. End lot with size of 24X75 and 10ft land is some 580k. launching 22 Jan brows.gif

many ppl felt moved with the price despite some complaint the design. Aiya, obviously many ppl complaint design la, after seeing the 22x75 go and check out the paloma and fuego. Biasalah, once u compare it is totally a different thingy ma!


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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 9 2011, 10:16 PM)
Damn... serious ar!!! Banker manyak confident wor like tat...
70% manyak dangerous wor...
wat to do... biz is biz mah rite...
i guess bank used a certain formula tat ur salary wun b stagnant in future...
hence, allow 70% maybe @ young age...  rclxms.gif

bro John, u into Fengshui?
If not, there's still 1 unit of Phase 1 (shld still be same price)...
intermediate, facing back alley (shld not have any traffic since its backyard)...

as for the new 22x75, some1 said it might be 437k wor... isit true?
prolly the 470-480k is indicative for phase 2, slightly bigger built-up?
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kawan, itu banker wa dapat bukan foreign banker oh, it is Maybank.....70% punye salary....lu boleh star tengok itu setia ecopark liao lo.....

about the Fuego, sure boh got one more unit??? if ada, takda kira fengshui i will sapu. hehe....my in-law manyak suka....wa sudah satu dia takda syok, dia pun mau satu....






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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 10 2011, 07:52 AM)
about the Fuego, sure boh got one more unit??? if ada, takda kira fengshui i will sapu. hehe....my in-law manyak suka....wa sudah satu dia takda syok, dia pun mau satu....
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Fuego is nice. But I dont remember, which one is the one that got a small stairs to the master bedroom? Fuego eh?
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 10 2011, 09:57 AM)
Fuego is nice. But I dont remember, which one is the one that got a small stairs to the master bedroom? Fuego eh?
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Fuego is the 26x75, the show house on the far right side. The one with small stair case to master bedroom is the new gonna launch 22x75.
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free MOT ada lagi promotion ka? hehe
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free MOT ada lagi promotion ka? hehe
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 10 2011, 12:21 AM)
No way its gonna be 437K. The george guy said 480K or higher
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its true... i've called to confirmed...

QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 10 2011, 07:52 AM)
itu georgie guy called me to inform 437k onwards. End lot with size of 24X75 and 10ft land is some 580k. launching 22 Jan  brows.gif

many ppl felt moved with the price despite some complaint the design. Aiya, obviously many ppl complaint design la, after seeing the 22x75 go and check out the paloma and fuego. Biasalah, once u compare it is totally a different thingy ma!


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kawan, itu banker wa dapat bukan foreign banker oh, it is Maybank.....70% punye salary....lu boleh star tengok itu setia ecopark liao lo.....

about the Fuego, sure boh got one more unit??? if ada, takda kira fengshui i will sapu. hehe....my in-law manyak suka....wa sudah satu dia takda syok, dia pun mau satu....
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wah.. 580k endlot... its a steal, size maciam Paloma but design - like i mention..
needs a little getting used to...
too bad the living hall not 2x2 tiles sad.gif

btw, Fuego - #31 Rodat 15 shld still be avail... facing back alley...
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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 10 2011, 10:47 AM)
its true... i've called to confirmed...
wah.. 580k endlot... its a steal, size maciam Paloma but design - like i mention..
needs a little getting used to...
too bad the living hall not 2x2 tiles sad.gif

btw, Fuego - #31 Rodat 15 shld still be avail... facing back alley...
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for 22x75, the tiles not 2x2 not major issue ma, u can change if u really insist to have that.....of coz more $$$ flies

Fuego #31 Rodat 15 facing back alley one sudah takda la....memang it was sold off by georgie to malay member earlier. Just on the map he never put the pin on....
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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 10 2011, 10:47 AM)
its true... i've called to confirmed...
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wah lau. how come quite cheap? tiba2 dah jadi baik ke?
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wah lau. how come quite cheap? tiba2 dah jadi baik ke?
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I also find it pretty shocked to know it was rm437k which earlier indication was in the range of >470k. Well, maybe they reprice and restrategy to capture more market share. Setia Alam still selling like hot cake! cool2.gif

And mostly everyone (not Klang origin) that knows Setia Alam, doesn't know where this Bukit Raja is. They will start saying: "wow, BBR in Klang ah, so far away la. Setia Alam better"..............which in fact the newly launched BBR project is less than 500m away opposite from the end row of shop in Setia Alam. If you can finish strolling the pasar malam of Setia Alam, actually u can manage to walk to BBR from Setia Alam also without sweat! It is so close but yet not much ppl realize it. Hahaha....... icon_idea.gif
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yea les keep it in 'wonderland'. we dont need highly price house! smile.gif
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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 10 2011, 10:57 AM)
for 22x75, the tiles not 2x2 not major issue ma, u can change if u really insist to have that.....of coz more $$$ flies

Fuego #31 Rodat 15 facing back alley one sudah takda la....memang it was sold off by georgie to malay member earlier. Just on the map he never put the pin on....
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really ar... i asked the oth sales fella...
she said still got... isyk2...
wah... 2 replace 2x2 on living hall, abit tedious wor...
moreover, costing involve...
but err... wifey dun like the design... the living hall especially, kinda small sweat.gif
dun really "feel space" inside tat unit due to 4th bedroom @ mid of hall...

i thk SD priced is based on built and intro price...
e.g. Paloma 488k, Fuego 546k
So it makes sense that smaller unit < Paloma price...
and not following "price craze Setia Alam units..." smile.gif

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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 10 2011, 03:25 PM)
really ar... i asked the oth sales fella...
she said still got... isyk2...
wah... 2 replace 2x2 on living hall, abit tedious wor...
moreover, costing involve...
but err... wifey dun like the design... the living hall especially, kinda small sweat.gif
dun really "feel space" inside tat unit due to 4th bedroom @ mid of hall...

i thk SD priced is based on built and intro price...
e.g. Paloma 488k, Fuego 546k
So it makes sense that smaller unit < Paloma price...
and not following "price craze Setia Alam units..." smile.gif
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I still dont understand why I should pay 29k more for Fuego and Paloma when in truth, they are not taken up, not because someone let it go.

ie. houses number 4s!
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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 10 2011, 03:25 PM)
really ar... i asked the oth sales fella...
she said still got... isyk2...
kawan, do u mind to PM me the contact number of this sales lady? maybe georgie main-main with me. thannks
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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 10 2011, 05:02 PM)
kawan, do u mind to PM me the contact number of this sales lady? maybe georgie main-main with me. thannks
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i oso think georgie boy main2... maybe he got commission oso from sales.

he told me paloma 517k, one unit left, number 4 pulak tu.

then he said awani is from 480k...

wanna fight come maaa.

anyway, i fell in love with fuego. genious design. spacious.
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 10 2011, 05:10 PM)
i oso think georgie boy main2... maybe he got commission oso from sales.

he told me paloma 517k, one unit left, number 4 pulak tu.

then he said awani is from 480k...

wanna fight come maaa.

anyway, i fell in love with fuego. genious design. spacious.
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i got the fuego unit from georgie boy also......jialat. but it is secured la, no main main.

the paloma i never heard of that also got unit number 4, my cousin scouting for paloma.

the new launching 22x75 he told me memang 480k, but then he called to inform it was 437k intermediate and some 580k for the end unit which is 24x75 in size + 12ft land.

about fuego......i memang sudah fallen at the first sight, so immediately i taruh a cheque with georgie boy in end dec'10 waiting to slot in those dropout unit from the rejected loans. hehehe.....nasib got one....but now hunting second for in-law.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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if i manage to get my unit in coming months

i jual my paloma unit + 15% (act like SD)

hehehee

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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 10 2011, 06:10 PM)
if i manage to get my unit in coming months

i jual my paloma unit + 15% (act like SD)

hehehee
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wahaha.....if i were u, i mark up 25% lo based on overwhelming response of buyers. rclxms.gif
all paloma phase1 so called strategic unit was mark up some 15% to 562k (facing park with nice number), about 10units were released and it was sapu'ed within a day.

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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 10 2011, 05:02 PM)
kawan, do u mind to PM me the contact number of this sales lady? maybe georgie main-main with me. thannks
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Done... PM liao smile.gif

QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 10 2011, 06:10 PM)
if i manage to get my unit in coming months

i jual my paloma unit + 15% (act like SD)

hehehee
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Hehehe.... i heard they might push it sooner...
750k onwards instead of 800k onwards...
moreover, i thk prev. Sales fella all BRAG kao2, so u thk twice on future launch and faster grab wat's avail...
aft "swimming" wif lotsa commission, all bcome blur2...
dunno wat's on offer, coz all ord thking of big fat bonus frm previous sales as well as current 22x75 offering... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 10 2011, 08:58 PM)
Done... PM liao smile.gif
Hehehe.... i heard they might push it sooner...
750k onwards instead of 800k onwards...
moreover, i thk prev. Sales fella all BRAG kao2, so u thk twice on future launch and faster grab wat's avail...
aft "swimming" wif lotsa commission, all bcome blur2...
dunno wat's on offer, coz all ord thking of big fat bonus frm previous sales as well as current 22x75 offering... sweat.gif
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signs of price drop???? seems unlikely still......

even at 438k for 22x75, it is not really cheap. perhaps it is a marketing gimmicks to create pull factor.
kept spreading rumors of 470-480k, and then launching at 438k......it does make many ppl 'moved' with a so called 'drop'. end of the day, nothing is drop ma for Sime Darby. Unless launching of 1st phase is 438k then drop to 408k in the 2nd phase. That is what u really call a drop.
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this layout will not appeal to many but is not uncommon... think many putraheight houses are like that. maybe sime just take out old design?

. entrance with a void - not necessary for a 22' wide house
. living-dining area will appear narrow due to void in front and bedroom in the middle
. stairs at back... hmm... linen area eats up good space, why not use the yard space at the back?

this layout not space efficient for 22x75. dev saving on material cost?


btw, what is builtup sqft, sqm?

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2127 sq.ft. Ya, living is about 17' wide, the main door will reduce it further, but the ceiling is higher.

Upstairs kena short-changed as well, back is shorter, full back extension will benefit 1 bedroom only vs conventional layout's 2, step-up concept to the master is nice but disappointed once inside. the house itself just doesn't feel like 22X47.

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thanks celicacultus,
finally some1 posted the layout...
by any chance, u have endlot/corner layout...
it shld be wider... but dunno is the design still the same wif the void?
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The new design doens't even worth to sell more than RM400K. doh.gif
Should be cap at RM300K range for this crappy design!! mad.gif
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but hoh... given the price, size, FH & landed, reputable developer...
many ppl are into "oklar"... cheap!!!
for 437k, u cant even get close to a 20x70 (not even 20x75) in setia alam...
hence, i belip there might be a crowd,
but as for takers... it really depends...
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edlim : snapped this layout plan at the entrance of the show unit. Brochure not out yet. The small scale model should have the endlot or corner layout but I went straight to the show unit then to Fuego's to take some photos and left.
The sales team didn't even move from their chairs during lunch hr even though there was a big family/relatives crowding the 22x75 model.

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oic... i tot broch. ord out...
serious ar... they so confident, no need hunt or persuade customer...
but instead, wait till launch date then let them flock/ballot...
geez... confirmlar... commission too much liao frm prev. sales...
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QUOTE(celicacultus @ Jan 11 2011, 09:27 PM)
edlim : snapped this layout plan at the entrance of the show unit.  Brochure not out yet.  The small scale model should have the endlot or corner layout but I went straight to the show unit then to Fuego's to take some photos and left.
The sales team didn't even move from their chairs during lunch hr even though there was a big family/relatives crowding the 22x75 model.
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the end lot has a 24x75 buildup, with the void area being taken up by extended master bedroom. the ground floor still the same but with 2ft wider lo, and a glass sliding door at the dining area with a terrace of approximately 4ft, and 12ft empty land by side.

the corner lot would be 26x75, with the same thingy like the end lot, but empty land much bigger (dunno how big land)
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AVANI, brief details on Sime Darby website but no e-brochure, layout & specs yet.
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QUOTE(celicacultus @ Jan 13 2011, 12:12 PM)
AVANI, brief details on Sime Darby website but no e-brochure, layout & specs yet.
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perhaps at the price of RM437k for buildup of 21xx sqft will still be a hot selling......
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I doubt the design won't be as hot as Paloma snap up within 4 hours!!! shakehead.gif
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E-Brochure available for viewing, stated 438k to 943k, endlot & corner have a utility room, 3 phase wiring, living room better with the extra 2'/4', but dining is narrower because of the folding doors.

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I doubt the design won't be as hot as Paloma snap up within 4 hours!!! shakehead.gif
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paloma is a super link category, not to be compared also as during the phase 1 paloma is RM488k for 24x75ft. This price u won't be able to find elsewhere for an established developer........

i still think this Avani gonna be a hot selling on the 22 Jan.....let's see.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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the price is very attractive.. is anyone knows Avani is facing paloma or sapadu highway? consists of how many rows?
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Avani should be to the east of Fuego Phase I with the row on Jln Rodat 10 facing Shapadu
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just visited show unit for Avani..very unique design..

now in dilemma either to take Alam Nusantara-AL (near Eco Park) or this Avani.. icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(messi88 @ Jan 13 2011, 08:21 PM)
the price is very attractive.. is anyone knows Avani is facing paloma or sapadu highway? consists of how many rows?
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i think in total got 12rows (not really sure) and they are going to launch in one shot.....with 2designs whereby difference only on the living hall side. 1 of the design exactly like the show house, another design with the folding door in living hall being extended to the maximum to make your living hall bigger. Pricing not sure.

it is nearer to Shapadu. But what to worry? Shapadu is never a busy hiway, due to expensive toll rate, and it is only heading to the industrial zone of port klang. It could be busier during weekdays on working hours. Night time, u can start counting how many cars passing by...... icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(onewan @ Jan 14 2011, 12:18 AM)
just visited show unit for Avani..very unique design..

now in dilemma either to take Alam Nusantara-AL (near Eco Park) or this Avani..  icon_question.gif
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if to be compared with Alam Nusantara, i think BBR has much much much better design. The houses there in A.Nusantara are so conventional design with low ceiling and small glass door......been there many times....not my cup of tea at all shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 14 2011, 09:03 AM)
i think in total got 12rows (not really sure) and they are going to launch in one shot.....

approx, how many units total for this 22x75 avani?

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guys....is there any new unit selling below 400k from the developer?
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guys....is there any new unit selling below 400k from the developer?
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nothing for the new launching, but perhaps u can get it from subsales.
i believe there is some buyers prone to sell over the Petunia or those before.
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approx, how many units total for this 22x75 avani?
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Plan is out at iproperty website Here

I still prefer the staircase to be at the middle, and the room at the back
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Plan is out at iproperty website
I still prefer the staircase to be at the middle, and the room at the back
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erm....seems another 6rows will be 2nd phase launching or maybe i made mistake.

hhaha......design wise is very individual. I am ok with the room at the front but it should fully utilize the void area to make the living hall larger. anyway, all the best to Avani sales launching on 22 Jan thumbup.gif .....
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The Avani is the worst design i ever seen. yawn.gif
Not worth it & weird design the room at the front living room!!! doh.gif
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Corner has 19' land. Soft launch today for Sime Darby staff.
BTW, does last year's promo include the SPA stamp duty?
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Corner has 19' land.  Soft launch today for Sime Darby staff. 
BTW, does last year's promo include the SPA stamp duty?
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yup, stamp duty included for last year promo.
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Thanks ken7908, so if buying the Avani at 440k with 90% loan will need to come up with :


SPA LEGAL FEE : 150k@1% + 290k@0.7% = 3530 (not sure absorb by SD or not)

MOT STAMP DUTY : 100k@1% + 340k@2% = 7800

LOAN LEGAL FEE : 100k@1% + 296k@0.5% = 2480 (plus misc. charges, discount if same lawyer as SPA, excluding mrta)

LOAN STAMP DUTY : 396K@0.5% = 1980


Is this correct? Or does SPA has its own stamp duty as well?

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QUOTE(celicacultus @ Jan 15 2011, 09:34 AM)
Thanks ken7908, so if buying the Avani at 440k with 90% loan will need to come up with :
SPA LEGAL FEE : 150k@1% + 290k@0.7% = 3530  (not sure absorb by SD or not)

MOT STAMP DUTY : 100k@1% + 340k@2% = 7800

LOAN LEGAL FEE : 100k@1% + 296k@0.5% = 2480    (plus misc. charges, discount if same lawyer as SPA, excluding mrta)

LOAN STAMP DUTY : 396K@0.5% = 1980
Is this correct?  Or does SPA has its own stamp duty as well?
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How much is the MOT for Fuego pharse 1 if to pay by self?
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MOT Stamp Duty :

1 st 100k @ 1%
Next 400k @ 2%
Next 1.5m @ 3%


Phase I not sure exact price but Phase II A3 at 575k
1 st 100k @ 1% = 1000
Next 400k @ 2% = 8000
Next 1.5m @ 3% = 75k X 3% = 2250
MOT = 11250

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Ic.. thanks. i tot MOT few hundred RM only.
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S&P shld be absorbed kua...
coz SD has their own legal dept (stamping oni RM10 mah)...

Actually... seems like MOT takes the most "fee" of purchasing a hse (unless exempted)...
Tentatively -
Btw, Fuego Phase 1 is 546k

Stamp duty calculator:
http://www.jpph.gov.my/V1/kira_dutisetem.php?versi=1
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all these is hidden cost beside the house price itself

so buyer, be known and don't get shock attack tongue.gif
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Hi everybody, nice to meet u all, i m new here. I bought fuego I. i have some question here. can I ask SD or the contractor to replace the stairs n upper floor to tiles deals? who should i reffer to?
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Fuego : AFAIK, they won't do it as there's specs listed in your SPA and the contract between SD & the contractors. Only some bungalow lot projects will allow you to choose from few designs and specs.
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i see. thinking of topup some amount of money quietly with contractor to replace it. but seems it is not doable. haha

heard that fuego will be fence up, good for fuego resident? dono how true is this.
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actually, BBR is quite peaceful.

2 of my uncles house is inside.

never heard of any kind of sad story at least for the last 4 years.

He's with the very initial first phase - Violet
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 16 2011, 02:58 PM)
actually, BBR is quite peaceful.

2 of my uncles house is inside.

never heard of any kind of sad story at least for the last 4 years.

He's with the very initial first phase - Violet
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i see. thinking of topup some amount of money quietly with contractor to replace it. but seems it is not doable. haha

heard that fuego will be fence up, good for fuego resident? dono how true is this.
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Didn't heard about fencing up Fuego before hmm.gif are you informed by the SA in BBR?
I thought laminated timber looks good, no?
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Didn't heard about fencing up Fuego before hmm.gif  are you informed by the SA in BBR?
I thought laminated timber looks good, no?
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Yup, SA told that they "planned" to do so. haha

Mayb diffrent preference. for me, laminated timber looks "fragile"... & difficult to maintain.. hehe


Added on January 16, 2011, 6:04 pmanybody know y this new Avira priced lower that earlier launch Fuego in term of RM psf.
Fuego ~rm225 psf
Avira ~rm200

In setia alam, newer launch always priced higher than earlier launch in term of rm psf. how come BBR priced newer launch lower than previous? Fuego overprice? property price start going down?



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Added on January 16, 2011, 6:04 pmanybody know y this new Avira priced lower that earlier launch Fuego in term of RM psf.
Fuego ~rm225 psf
Avira ~rm200

In setia alam, newer launch always priced higher than earlier launch in term of rm psf. how come BBR priced newer launch lower than previous? Fuego overprice? property price start going down?
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Fuego & Aviro are in different segment
Fuego is superlink with better features. Besides, bigger house, usually comes with higher rm psf
You bought Fuego phase 1? wink.gif


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true oso...
but if u look at SA tectona vs tamalan/bayan. both G&G.
tectona is a semiD which launch earlier with ~rm 215 psf, tamalan/bayan are only DSL which launch later than tectona (ard 1 yr+) with ~rm 226 psf.
Just wonder why BBR do the other way round. haha...
mayb i compare it with the wrong way,..hehe blush.gif

Fuego have better features drool.gif ?
yup, i bought fuego 1 biggrin.gif
u r future fuego resident as well? rclxms.gif
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Fuego is a superlink, in a different category, moreover with lake & park/playground, living 2x2 tiles, 3 phase ... 10% difference is ok in my books.

IMHO, per sq ft calculation is the method used to justify for the constant price increase. Let's say 20x70 with built-up of 2170 sq ft at 620k, that's 285/sq ft. By year end, can launch another similar phase with 15% increase to reach 700k. I can hear the sales pitch : "Last phase of DSL, no more land already, material cost increase, mall near completion ... previous phase already at RM285/sq ft"


Some BBR intermediate DSL per sq ft comparison, based on the e-brochure on SD website :

Levena 22x75 2280sf RM468888 : 205
Petunia 20x65 1735sf RM456300 : 263
Paloma 24x75 2390sf RM488k : 204
Fuego 26x75 2445sf RM546k : 223

Something must be wrong with the info on Petunia on the brochure as I remember it was around 350k, maybe SD got some promo package.

Please correct if you know and update Ellis, Elana, Avira if you guys have the info, thank you.

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somebody mentioned Aviro has lower specs, not sure.
I got 1 Fuego phase 1 for staying.
you? buy for investment or own stay?
Were you there in queue during Fuego 1 launching day? maybe we met, or even chatted before cool2.gif
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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 16 2011, 10:16 AM)
Hi everybody, nice to meet u all, i m new here. I bought fuego I. i have some question here. can I ask SD or the contractor to replace the stairs n upper floor to tiles deals? who should i reffer to?
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u can try to write letter... heck some developer might consider given strong reason...
i written to SP 2x and finally successful...
i chg my stairs and rest of upper flr to tiles frm parquet.
i was told it might be a problem wif MBSA init...
but eventually given the green light...
anyway, write letter, no harm rite smile.gif
but frankly, wood/parquet is more prefered when getting older....
tiles are "cold" while wood are warm... good for ur feet especially when getting older...
dunno true or not... but for me, i prefer tiles or wood (timber strips) and not parquet (diff. feel)...

as for Setia... it was already in "goreng" mode...
nothing is spared... not even their 20x70...

as for BBR - based on the design and cost cutting fittings...
and feedback - both internally and externally (forums too, which i bet some staff are reading)...
they have to come out wif a price that reflects the hse itself...
if it was priced much similar like Paloma @ 480k, will u still buy?
minus the MOT, etc... their staff will then have to start begging...
which will make them look bad too.... hence, price cheap, hse still get profits...
win win situation, both parties smiling to the bank biggrin.gif
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Added on January 16, 2011, 6:04 pmanybody know y this new Avira priced lower that earlier launch Fuego in term of RM psf.
Fuego ~rm225 psf
Avira ~rm200
In setia alam, newer launch always priced higher than earlier launch in term of rm psf. how come BBR priced newer launch lower than previous? Fuego overprice? property price start going down?
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valid question...

check the specs, maybe lower - usual things are tiles, single or 3phase wiring, sanitary wares, other costs like agreements/stamp duty incl or not.
how close to main road, traffic flow, potential noise and air pollution are also factors.

faster incr in rmpsf in one place mean more aggressive dev.

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QUOTE(celicacultus @ Jan 16 2011, 11:37 PM)
Fuego is a superlink, in a different category, moreover with lake & park/playground, living 2x2 tiles, 3 phase ... 10% difference is ok in my books.

IMHO, per sq ft calculation is the method used to justify for the constant price increase.  Let's say 20x70 with built-up of 2170 sq ft at 620k, that's 285/sq ft.  By year end, can launch another similar phase with 15% increase to reach 700k.  I can hear the sales pitch : "Last phase of DSL, no more land already, material cost increase, mall near completion ... previous phase already at RM285/sq ft" 
Some BBR intermediate DSL per sq ft comparison, based on the e-brochure on SD website :

Levena  22x75  2280sf  RM468888 : 205
Petunia  20x65  1735sf  RM456300 : 263
Paloma  24x75  2390sf  RM488k : 204
Fuego  26x75  2445sf  RM546k : 223

Something must be wrong with the info on Petunia on the brochure as I remember it was around 350k, maybe SD got some promo package.

Please correct if you know and update Ellis, Elana, Avira if you guys have the info, thank you.
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if i am not mistaken Petunia was some RM336k, making it some RM194/sqft.


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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 17 2011, 05:49 AM)
valid question...

check the specs, maybe lower - usual things are tiles, single or 3phase wiring, sanitary wares, other costs like agreements/stamp duty incl or not.
how close to main road, traffic flow, potential noise and air pollution are also factors.

faster incr in rmpsf in one place mean more aggressive dev.
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judging at the location of the new Avani, it is already on the losing end compared to any of the superlink of Paloma and Fuego. The location of superlink is much convenient to reach, close to the future shoplots, not so close to the Shapadu hiway and close to lake as well. Perhaps these are the points that shoot up the price compared to the recent Avani launching next week.

My wife sudah bising kept banging me beli Fuego after she saw the actual location....S&P to be signed today.....so I will one of neighbor in Fuego too.....cheers! rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(ebuq @ Jan 16 2011, 11:38 PM)
somebody mentioned Aviro has lower specs, not sure.
I got 1 Fuego phase 1 for staying.
you? buy for investment or own stay?
Were you there in queue during Fuego 1 launching day? maybe we met, or even chatted before  cool2.gif
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Yeah, mee too for own saty rclxm9.gif
queue from early morning sweat.gif


Added on January 17, 2011, 9:21 am
QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 17 2011, 12:15 AM)
u can try to write letter... heck some developer might consider given strong reason...
i written to SP 2x and finally successful...
i chg my stairs and rest of upper flr to tiles frm parquet.
i was told it might be a problem wif MBSA init...
but eventually given the green light...
anyway, write letter, no harm rite smile.gif
but frankly, wood/parquet is more prefered when getting older....
tiles are "cold" while wood are warm... good for ur feet especially when getting older...
dunno true or not... but for me, i prefer tiles or wood (timber strips) and not parquet (diff. feel)...

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u mean write letter to SD? attn to?
between, can PM me wat do u write for your reason that made your request success.
do u pay any extra?

u r correct. but more easy to maintain tiles than laminated timber biggrin.gif


Added on January 17, 2011, 9:25 am
QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 17 2011, 12:15 AM)
if it was priced much similar like Paloma @ 480k, will u still buy?
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mayb SD not as confident as SA.
ie. from semiD (tectona) -> SDL (tamalan/bayan) priced higher than semiD
ppl still BBBBBBBB...


Added on January 17, 2011, 9:27 am
QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 17 2011, 05:49 AM)

faster incr in rmpsf in one place mean more aggressive dev.
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seems like no more future development in this BBR already.

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seems like no more future development in this BBR already.
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maybe got....but darn slow for Sime Darby. Again, for own stay ok la....for investment maybe the lakeside 2.5 superlink will create more value compares to the rest. some bungalow and semiD is coming soon also.....dunno when la...

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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 17 2011, 08:43 AM)
judging at the location of the new Avani, it is already on the losing end compared to any of the superlink of Paloma and Fuego. The location of superlink is much convenient to reach, close to the future shoplots, not so close to the Shapadu hiway and close to lake as well. Perhaps these are the points that shoot up the price compared to the recent Avani launching next week.

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it is opposite. Avani is more close to the future shoplots near jalan meru.
Fuego 1 is close to shapadu highway as well.
the 1st row of Fuego is more closer to the highway if compare to 1st row of Avani. (using google map satelite, Fuego 1 and Avani already being "draw" on the earth).


Added on January 17, 2011, 9:41 am
QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 17 2011, 08:43 AM)
My wife sudah bising kept banging me beli Fuego after she saw the actual location....S&P to be signed today.....so I will one of neighbor in Fuego too.....cheers!  rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 17 2011, 09:37 AM)
it is opposite. Avani is more close to the future shoplots near jalan meru.
Fuego 1 is close to shapadu highway as well.
the 1st row of Fuego is more closer to the highway if compare to 1st row of Avani. (using google map satelite, Fuego 1 and Avani already being "draw" on the earth).


Added on January 17, 2011, 9:41 am

cheers!!  thumbup.gif
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sorry ya, i took up Fuego II, so suddenly didn't cross my mind that Fuego I is near to Shapadu. Aiya, no harm la close to that hiway.....only a little busy on working hours with big trucks/container load. That hiway u can categorize it as the lowest traffic hiway in Klang Valley. Expensive and connecting only to industrial area.

in fact, staying in setia alam near to the NKVE link is much more noisier....i'm here now and can hear all the roaring of kreta lembu, supercar, bas gila, mat rempit and macam2 more. cool2.gif
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whats the race-mix of BBR? melayu-cina-india berapa peratus?

i like fuego. but wish the design could be in alam nusantara LOL>
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 17 2011, 10:35 AM)
whats the race-mix of BBR? melayu-cina-india berapa peratus?

i like fuego. but wish the design could be in alam nusantara LOL>
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mixture wise i think more malay-chinese in the earlier launching of BBR.
in Fuego/Paloma, mostly chinese buyers.....

Paiseh to say, Fuego design i dont think u can find in other places. It is a bold move from Sime Darby to design such house. My 1st impression was so much cozy.....especially the opening up on the dining area. It gives me some feeling of smaller bungalow interior.... rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 17 2011, 11:00 AM)
mixture wise i think more malay-chinese in the earlier launching of BBR.
in Fuego/Paloma, mostly chinese buyers.....

Paiseh to say, Fuego design i dont think u can find in other places. It is a bold move from Sime Darby to design such house. My 1st impression was so much cozy.....especially the opening up on the dining area. It gives me some feeling of smaller bungalow interior.... rolleyes.gif
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yup, during fuego 1 launch day, mostly buyers r chinese.
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oh no wonder i was informed bumi lots still available for fuego.
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u mean write letter to SD? attn to?
between, can PM me wat do u write for your reason that made your request success.
do u pay any extra?
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err... i didn't write to SD coz err... nothing to chg on Fuego smile.gif
if i recall - i thk i oni attn to Customer Service Division
they shld now whom to address it to...

yeah, Avani is much further away frm Shahpadu
But do note, the road actually is meaningless...
i mean - they might as well use the hse access road to bypass it to the oth end instead of making a big "turning"
unless it G&G hence or one-way access...
otherwise, tis road will be empty, deserted and worst... dumpsite sad.gif
last time, Avani was meant for shoplots too, maybe that explains the outer road access (and perhaps parking)...
as for Fuego 1, they have allocated budget to raised sound barrier,
but when i asked - does it cover till the shop, SA said oni Fuego, Avani will not be included coz it has additional road as buffer...
but i guess, if Avani make noise, they will erect them for FOC smile.gif
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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 17 2011, 11:29 AM)
err... i didn't write to SD coz err... nothing to chg on Fuego smile.gif
if i recall - i thk i oni attn to Customer Service Division
they shld now whom to address it to...

yeah, Avani is much further away frm Shahpadu
But do note, the road actually is meaningless...
i mean - they might as well use the hse access road to bypass it to the oth end instead of making a big "turning"
unless it G&G hence or one-way access...
otherwise, tis road will be empty, deserted and worst... dumpsite sad.gif
last time, Avani was meant for shoplots too, maybe that explains the outer road access (and perhaps parking)...
as for Fuego 1, they have allocated budget to raised sound barrier,
but when i asked - does it cover till the shop, SA said oni Fuego, Avani will not be included coz it has additional road as buffer...
but i guess, if Avani make noise, they will erect them for FOC smile.gif
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thanks bro edlim.

do u know why fuego is priced very high if compare to avani, regardless of living 2x2 tiles, 3 phase, coz avani corner come with the same but priced much more lower nevertheless being launch later than fuego.

any other extra in fuego that make it being priced higher?
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thanks bro edlim.

do u know why fuego is priced very high if compare to avani, regardless of living 2x2 tiles, 3 phase, coz avani corner come with the same but priced much more lower nevertheless being launch later than fuego.

any other extra in fuego that make it being priced higher?
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Fuego is a superlink which in term of classification should be more costly in comparison to standard link of 22X75 and below. Look at the design of paloma/fuego also oredi know it will cost more than the new launching of Avani..... hmm.gif Only Paloma/Fuego is within the lake vicinity, which highly possible to be made GG in the near future. I will definitely request for GG once i stay there....let's create a community and demand for that. My 2cent worth of thought.....

I did asked before why SD mark down the price of Avani instead of earlier announced 470-480k. The reply was saying due to poor market demand of current Setia Alam launching of 20x70 at 618k. They decided to mark down to create more sales......so called la.....

But i guess, it is totally a marketing gimmick to create more pull factor. All the sales guy of BBR quoting 470-480k for Avani earlier before, and then the actual priced at 438k. Many ppl will suddenly feel 'wow' it is much cheaper and tempted to buy. Well, i would think 470-480k is costly too..... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 17 2011, 11:56 AM)
Fuego is a superlink which in term of classification should be more costly in comparison to standard link of 22X75 and below. Look at the design of paloma/fuego also oredi know it will cost more than the new launching of Avani.....  hmm.gif  Only Paloma/Fuego is within the lake vicinity, which highly possible to be made GG in the near future. I will definitely request for GG once i stay there....let's create a community and demand for that. My 2cent worth of thought.....

I did asked before why SD mark down the price of Avani instead of earlier announced 470-480k. The reply was saying due to poor market demand of current Setia Alam launching of  20x70 at 618k. They decided to mark down to create more sales......so called la.....

But i guess, it is totally a marketing gimmick to create more pull factor. All the sales guy of BBR quoting 470-480k for Avani earlier before, and then the actual priced at 438k. Many ppl will suddenly feel 'wow' it is much cheaper and tempted to buy. Well, i would think 470-480k is costly too..... icon_idea.gif
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Yup, i agree with u, the premium price for fuego should be come with G&G! yeah lets create a community to demand for that! thumbup.gif
but do u think this is possible? AFAIK, G&G houses are in diffrent title, correct me is im wrong. SD will wish or SD will able to do so in the future?
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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 17 2011, 12:09 PM)
Yup, i agree with u, the premium price for fuego should be come with G&G! yeah lets create a community to demand for that!  thumbup.gif
but do u think this is possible? AFAIK, G&G houses are in diffrent title, correct me is im wrong. SD will wish or SD will able to do so in the future?
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i think it can be created by local community, as long as everyone willing to pay for the fencing and the community need to be strong. title wise i am not so sure.
Of coz, firstly create a strong community to go directly to SD to get it done for GG. Else it could be some hefty amount also to pay to fence up the area. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 17 2011, 12:16 PM)
i think it can be created by local community, as long as everyone willing to pay for the fencing and the community need to be strong. title wise i am not so sure.
Of coz, firstly create a strong community to go directly to SD to get it done for GG. Else it could be some hefty amount also to pay to fence up the area.  icon_idea.gif
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bro, sorry not to pour cold water, it is not that easy unfortunately .... need to get consent from certain % of the residents + from the local authority as this land is not gazetted as GnG development in the 1st place ... also, under the new g&g rule, since it is on a public land, the guardhouse cannot be a permanent structure ... there is extensive discussion about this in Setia Alam forum ... also BBR was not designed to facilitate GnG , cos it is not single entry into every parcel, making it harder to realize this ... just my 2 cents

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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 17 2011, 12:16 PM)
i think it can be created by local community, as long as everyone willing to pay for the fencing and the community need to be strong. title wise i am not so sure.
Of coz, firstly create a strong community to go directly to SD to get it done for GG. Else it could be some hefty amount also to pay to fence up the area.  icon_idea.gif
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should ask SD to fence for us as they collect premium price from us. if i m not misstaken, fuego price is very very close to setia alam superlink G&G's tamalan/bayan in RM psf.

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they can, i've also heard they have fancing allocation...
but then, legally they cant do anythg...
G&G is quite hard to achieve now compare to last time (look at most USJ areas)...
it can oni be simplified if SD steps in to assist us in acquiring such permits...
and also, having their mgmt team to overlook community management...
they can if they want to, they will oso need to issue DMC for all residence to sign (and agree)...
Otherwise, we juz ask them built a proper guard hse like in Setia...

P/s: Y not we collectively gather signature and then ask for certain "upgrades" (e.g. Alarm sys.) or services (G&G)...

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By definition, "Gated Community" refers to a gated and guarded residential community, either in highrise or landed properties. The properties in a Gated Community need to have strata title (including landed strata). This kind of community is only allowed in limited location in urban area.

Meanwhile, "Guarded Neighbourhood" refers to residential community with individual land title properties which has security service either with or without security house. It can be of "guarded only" (without fence) and "guarded and gated" (with fence).

For Gated Community:

-Minimum area under the scheme is 1 hectar and maximum is 10 hectar (200-500 house units)
-The roads and shared amenities inside the GC belong to the community, and managed by Management Corporation elected by the residents
-Building of wall to separate the community from its neighbourhood is not allowed
-Social Impact Analysis needs to be carried out before the establishment of GC be considered
-Need to have 2 entrances/exits (one for main usage, another for emergency)
-Perimeter fencing of height not more than 9 feets and at least 50% visible from outside is allowed
-Boom gate is not allowed (*<- funny, y not allowed)
Guard house of 1.8m x 2.4m
-The houses cannot be more than 4 levels (18.5 meters) from basement
-Visitors' parking must be allocated

For Guarded Neighbourhood:

-Only allowed in urban area
-Establishment of GN needs to be proposed by Residents Association and supported by majority of the residents
-Guard house of 1.8m x 2.4m or smaller
-Manual boom gate with 24 hours security control can be considered
-Guards need to registered with Home Ministry

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apa mau takut...

if you look carefully again.. nearby the lake, there is 1 police station



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I want gated community! Police station also not safe nowadays..
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Paloma 1 recently sold by developer for RM 562K! ?
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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 17 2011, 03:24 PM)
Paloma 1 recently sold by developer for RM 562K! ?
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nok harom. I guess those are with great numbers
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nok harom. I guess those are with great numbers
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wat is nok harom?
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wat is nok harom?
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its a malay swearing i learned. it's equivalent to Beckham's first son. LOL
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Paloma 1 recently sold by developer for RM 562K! ?
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memang true, my cousin just got it at that price of rm562k.

the developer hike up the price and sell as 'strategic unit' with nicer number. This will happen also soon for Fuego I......
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they can, i've also heard they have fancing allocation...
but then, legally they cant do anythg...
G&G is quite hard to achieve now compare to last time (look at most USJ areas)...
it can oni be simplified if SD steps in to assist us in acquiring such permits...
and also, having their mgmt team to overlook community management...
they can if they want to, they will oso need to issue DMC for all residence to sign (and agree)...
Otherwise, we juz ask them built a proper guard hse like in Setia...

P/s: Y not we collectively gather signature and then ask for certain "upgrades" (e.g. Alarm sys.) or services (G&G)...

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if possible better gather signature now for them to do in one go together with the construction. possible? laugh.gif

if not, it will take decade for them to do all this after VP. sweat.gif

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what are the difference term between superlink (Feugo) and normal link (Avani)..??
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what are the difference term between superlink (Feugo) and normal link (Avani)..??
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Apart from the size and bu which is obvious, based on what i know:

difference
- fuego 3 phase vs avani 1 phase (except for end and corner lot)
- fuego slightly better specs (eg: porcelain tiles vs ceramic tiles)


similarities
- modern facade
- location (fuego and avani next to each other)

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hse selection can be as easy as ordering drink preference...
e.g. frm Chinese tea to VSOP/etc.

a superlink is often refered to as semi-d w/o land...
y coz, typical semi-D 34x75, minus 10ft land...
hse size, shld be ard 24x75 rite...
hence, if i recall correcty, DSL wif 24ft width or more are often refered to as superlink
the above is my 2cent opinion nia...

my cousin bot a hse in M'cca
my gosh, its damn spacious... 24x70 - full b/up (24xxs.f.)
tiles 2x2 porcelain, main gate - wrought-iron, stairs oso wrought iron...
3phase ready, etc and oni cost RM246k, seriously,
master + balcony (cum porch roof),
his intention to close up balcony, geez, it's HUGE!!!
semi-d abt 40x75/80, abt 4xxk nia...
tempting man... but too bad... in M'cca...
perhaps 2-3yrs ago in Klang still possible... now no more lor.... sad.gif
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I second the signature petition to SD as I was thinking about the alarm as well, to conceal the wiring later will be quite a mess, I will pay for the alarm, just want them to bury the wires like the auto gate & doorbell.


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I second the signature petition to SD as I was thinking about the alarm as well, to conceal the wiring later will be quite a mess, I will pay for the alarm, just want them to bury the wires like the auto gate & doorbell.
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I second the signature petition to SD as I was thinking about the alarm as well, to conceal the wiring later will be quite a mess, I will pay for the alarm, just want them to bury the wires like the auto gate & doorbell.
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U signed?
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yeah... we set a date then submit our letter 2gather?

- Include Alarm System (bugger it will oni cost them RM1.5k wif wiring) for bulk purchase (whole Fuego leh) since not G&G - Setia can gv, takkan 1/5mil hse can't include - last time i ask, SA said will highlight nia, otherwise, juz loop the zone lor if dun 1 to pull too many wires rite?
- Funny lar, in M'cca,they will call the engineer attending ur upgrade during construction e.g. add fan point, light point, xtra plugpoint (yeah add zone too - includes Alarm), all these are conceal later on... better rite...
- SD tak mau... sigh!!! Yes more work, but then - it really save us lotsa cost later on...
- btw, guest room toilet no heater point sad.gif oni 3 bathroom upstairs nia... kesian the guest, kena bath cold water!!! @ least gv lar 4 heater point out of the 5 toilets included rite!!!

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yeah... we set a date then submit our letter 2gather?

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yeah! we all set a date sign and submit together for alarm wiring (mayb alarm as well brows.gif )

also, sign together ask them to fence up fuego, since they already allocated for this (means we have paid).
if we din't sound out now and keep quiet, sure they oso diam diam and tak payah do anything with our extra pay!

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i thk Alarm part is do-able...
but fencing part... hmm, this might take sometime...
coz take note, even for sound barrier they cant install until its VPed
else, will affect approval frm MPK...
another thg i juz realized - the lake, that's public access...
how are we gonna fence up Fuego (and also the latest 2.5 superlink facing lake)...
coz remember under G&G, cnot fence up part of a taman oni...
moreover, SD can always juz deny it say no such allocation blah2...
xcept for sound-barrier; tis is promised...
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mmmm....

you guy have to wait until the 2 1/2 storey beside lake to be up then if all agreed, there is possibility to fence it up together with the lake.

meaning, it will become private lake. but for now, you can't do anything.
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yeah, unless all appealed and then SD agrees to fence up Fuego...
when applying permit for Fuego, they might even xtend to cater 2.5s Lakeside too...
then they will workout some % for maintenance and security fee...
and then, retailed their lakeside higher selling price coz its G&G biggrin.gif


Added on January 18, 2011, 12:06 pmBad news, fencing is no longer possible...
but for alarm, we can write in pending mgmt approval...
anyway, will try to write to them...
but how are we gonna get "votes" to strengthen our request?

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I have set up a facebook account "fuego simedarby" for owners and future committee, please message house no/street for me to accept and compile if you are serious in pursuing these issues. I have no experience in this but serious in contributing as Fuego will be my home. Hopefully, we can team up and work together to get the ball rolling.

I am on Jln 12 Type A3. My friend A2 on Jln 15. I will be back in Malaysia Jan 26, would be happy to meet up the future neighbours.



edlim : fencing no go is for now or never?

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Bad news, fencing is no longer possible...
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how come?


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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 18 2011, 11:58 AM)
anyway, will try to write to them...
but how are we gonna get "votes" to strengthen our request?
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celicacultus have set up a facebook account "fuego simedarby".
we might set a date to get together. and each of us here that read this to help inform those that they know, and try to ask them to join as well. else try to get their signature if they cannot trun up.

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I have set up a facebook account "fuego simedarby" for owners and future committee, please message house no/street for me to accept and compile if you are serious in pursuing these issues.  I have no experience in this but serious in contributing as Fuego will be my home.  Hopefully, we can team up and work together to get the ball rolling.

I am on Jln 12 Type A3.  My friend A2 on Jln 15.  I will be back in Malaysia Jan 26, would be happy to meet up the future neighbours.
I will reach Malaysia Jan 27 icon_rolleyes.gif
Mine Type 1 - Jln 17

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fencing not possible as of now...
but what i gonna proposed is for SD to built a nicer g/hse wif manual boom (for guarded comm.)

FB acc ar?
aiyaya... i cant access those in ofis :">
how bout in forum?
u thk can make use of BBR forum (http://www.bukitraja.net/)
i hope they will react to tis as it's unofficial BBR forum...
Mine Jln 17 - Type A1.
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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 18 2011, 11:58 AM)
yeah, unless all appealed and then SD agrees to fence up Fuego...
when applying permit for Fuego, they might even xtend to cater 2.5s Lakeside too...
then they will workout some % for maintenance and security fee...
and then, retailed their lakeside higher selling price coz its G&G biggrin.gif


Added on January 18, 2011, 12:06 pmBad news, fencing is no longer possible...
but for alarm, we can write in pending mgmt approval...
anyway, will try to write to them...
but how are we gonna get "votes" to strengthen our request?
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Fencing up Fuego and the lake is not practical, IMO. I believe approval is given to SD so that the lake serves as recreation to public. Fencing up will be unfair to other phase buyers. Besides, maintenance fee will be high for such a huge lake.
For alarm, is doable...
I just realized autogate & doorbell points are provided, will edit my earlier post blush.gif
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i will be back KL on 28 Jan biggrin.gif

Mine Jln 16 - Type A2.
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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 18 2011, 12:51 PM)
i will be back KL on 28 Jan biggrin.gif

Mine Jln 16 - Type A2.
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And mine will be in Jln 13, A4 type.
U guys all balik for CNY, and I pulak cabut on the 6th Feb till month end month.

Do accept me on the Fuego on FB, user name Ken Yong. Thanks!
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but what i gonna proposed is for SD to built a nicer g/hse wif manual boom (for guarded comm.)
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could be better to have nicer guardhouse wif auto barrier , because like in sa with mannual boom, the 80% of the times, guard totally never check on the vehicle entering, they just open the barrier whenever vehicle come. the guard difficult or lazy to check the vehicle wether is resident or outsider.
some more with only 1 lane for in and out, is oso problem/difficult for the guard to stop all outsider cars.

the guardhouse SHOULD have 2 lane for in & 2 lane for out and cctv. 1 lane with auto barrier is for resident with access card, another lane with mannual barrier which close all the time, is for outsider to enter, all outsider need to registered themself before entering. this method, the guard no need to put any efford to check wheter is outsider or not since resident will have the card to enter directly using the lane with auto barrier, and every enteree that without card need to stop the car at the other lane with manual barrier and register themself before enter.
Same work to the exit.

we should ask for this kind of guardhouse, it is more efficient. thumbup.gif

else the practice with only single lane seems not doing and guards tends to let every car enter without any check. sweat.gif

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yeah, either put a efficient guard or just dont bother to put one. as you notice, most of the fencing and such with lousy security checkpoint is totally pointless/useless.

i've passthru many type of security (whether it's SA, BBT or whatever) where the guard don't even bother to check my identity.

even with the card system, the guard might go lazy. (one good example would be a G&G opposite Giant Bandar Bukit Tinggi where tenant required to touch to enter while guest need registering. i went to my friend's house many times and just tell them "cari kawan, jalan 14i or whatever", the palang will go up for me smile.gif without asking further question. so it's a failing process.

the best G&G I've seen is Bukit Rimau/Bukit Kemuning luxury house. My uncle bought a land and build his own house. We try to enter the compound but was stopped. Even able to provide tenant details, the guard will still call directly to the tenant for verification. Then proceed with registration details.

all of you worked overseas ar? tongue.gif ahahahha...

I'm back Malaysia 27th but I'm paloma...any paloma want do FB'ing? hahaha
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 18 2011, 03:40 PM)

the best G&G I've seen is Bukit Rimau/Bukit Kemuning luxury house. My uncle bought a land and build his own house. We try to enter the compound but was stopped. Even able to provide tenant details, the guard will still call directly to the tenant for verification. Then proceed with registration details.

all of you worked overseas ar? tongue.gif ahahahha...

I'm back Malaysia 27th but I'm paloma...any paloma want do FB'ing? hahaha
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the G&G over the ecopark and ambang are strict. the rest, aiya....kacang putih one la, see the quality of guard sudah tau. Either mangkalai, or nepalese, or even india mari. All sleepy face sit in the guardhouse show hand only when u entering.

Fuego mahal lah, need to go oversea cari lombong emas once in a while ma.....hahahaaaaaa rclxms.gif

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Kemuning Hills : they will call the residents to verify your visit first then register.

http://www.townplan.gov.my/new_web/pengumuman/gpdated.pdf

Gated Community : perimeter fencing ok, 50% visibility but cannot walled up, 1 hector min., etc....
Guarded Neighbourhood : no fencing allowed

Will read in details later tonight.
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those area like condo style, got intercom to evy hse...
to have G&G, one need to convert the land into strata tittle...

By definition, "Gated Community" refers to a gated and guarded residential community, either in highrise or landed properties. The properties in a Gated Community need to have strata title (including landed strata). This kind of community is only allowed in limited location in urban area.

Next, need to have management team much similar like condo...
collection will include security fee, maintenance (maybe landscape too),cleaning road/lake,sinking fund, etc.

Maciam susah unless we got strong committee as well as resources...
Or SD allows us to engage their mgmt team to over-see the entire management...
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to ask SD to pay for a team that look after your zone welfare is almost impossible unless the cost bared by all tenants. this mission is pretty much impossible as well and therefore KHALASSSSS (forget about it)

the only way to do this is when SD launched it with G&G where all buyer acknowledged of the price and willing to pay for it. SD will be in-charge for the first 1-2 years and remaining will be hand-over to your own zone community. :-)


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i m willing to pay for the fees if they done their job well.

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the only way to do this is when SD launched it with G&G where all buyer acknowledged of the price and willing to pay for it. SD will be in-charge for the first 1-2 years and remaining will be hand-over to your own zone community. :-)
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this is correct. if not designated and sold as gng be dev, very hard to change. with new rules, almost impossible.

another way to look at it - some buyers buy becos not gng, dunwan and no need to pay any sec/maint fees.
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du u guys meet around go for SD (mayb for the most practical thing ie. alarm thingy, and nice guard house) any day end of this month. biggrin.gif
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i'm really in dilemma between PKNS project at Setia Alam adn with latest Sime launch, Avani..

PKNS Project
# 428k
# 20x70
#b/u 1960
#freehold
#95% completed (this June get a key)
#near Ecopark, Setia Mall, 7th Avenue rclxms.gif
#under MBSA authority

Sime Project
#starting 438k
#22x75
#b/u 2127
#freehold
# expected complete Jan 2013 (another 2yrs time)
#Jalan Meru and Jalan Hj Sirat, not so easy access,traffic jammed?? doh.gif
#under MPK authority

pls help me to choose which one better rclxub.gif
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hehehe... posted inside here ar...
sure u got ur answer liao smile.gif
BBR lor... Jln Meru will have traff. light by tis yr...
2yrs time, lotsa time to save up...
dunno how's the fixture like in Alam Nusantara hse,
but Avani, i thk u will require lesser reno...
i tot PKNS proj. left Bumi... u malay?
if yes, dunno Paloma still got Bumi lot not...
if got... RM453k+ aft discount (Phase 1)...
better yet, Fuego Phase 1 @ oni 508k smile.gif
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pls help me to choose which one better  rclxub.gif
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you actually have all the factors to consider, a matter of what you put more weight.

in addiiton to those factors you oledi know, considering these too:
. how soon you need the house? 6m or 2 yrs time?
. which direction u travel more - meru/klang side of nkve side?

tough decision, u only get to make once! biggrin.gif
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but for alarm, we can write in pending mgmt approval...
anyway, will try to write to them...
but how are we gonna get "votes" to strengthen our request?
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bro edlim,
when r u going to submit this? u will send in for individual or represent all of fuego owners (get signature from all together)? rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(onewan @ Jan 18 2011, 07:38 PM)
i'm really in dilemma between PKNS project at Setia Alam adn with latest Sime launch, Avani..

PKNS Project
# 428k
# 20x70
#b/u 1960
#freehold
#95% completed (this June get a key)
#near Ecopark, Setia Mall, 7th Avenue  rclxms.gif
#under MBSA authority

Sime Project
#starting 438k
#22x75
#b/u 2127
#freehold
# expected complete Jan 2013 (another 2yrs time)
#Jalan Meru and Jalan Hj Sirat, not so easy access,traffic jammed??  doh.gif
#under MPK authority

pls help me to choose which one better  rclxub.gif
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I think traffic is the least we can consider. U will never know which direction u heading in the future (maybe u change job/location etc). U never know what would happen when the whole setia alam/ecopark/nusantara project fully occupied. It is the same traffic prob also if fully occupied plus a shopping mall. Many complaint BBR traffic issue, being a originally Klang guy i would tell u it is still fine. I use this stretch daily many times as i travel to Klang town frequently.....so far so good. I wouldn't classify this as traffic jam, if to compare with any of those in glenmarie, USJ, Subang, Damansara or KL. icon_rolleyes.gif




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QUOTE(onewan @ Jan 18 2011, 07:38 PM)
i'm really in dilemma between PKNS project at Setia Alam adn with latest Sime launch, Avani..

PKNS Project
# 428k
# 20x70
#b/u 1960
#freehold
#95% completed (this June get a key)
#near Ecopark, Setia Mall, 7th Avenue  rclxms.gif
#under MBSA authority

Sime Project
#starting 438k
#22x75
#b/u 2127
#freehold
# expected complete Jan 2013 (another 2yrs time)
#Jalan Meru and Jalan Hj Sirat, not so easy access,traffic jammed??  doh.gif
#under MPK authority

pls help me to choose which one better  rclxub.gif
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tough choice indeed ...

Location wise, PKNS house is much better, easy access from NKVE link, higher ground, next to EP , better landscaping around the area ....
Specs/facade wise, Avani is much better, I've been to PKNS house (earlier launch in setia alam also, not good) ....

If die die need to make a choice between these 2, I will go for PKNS project ... reason is u cannot buy the location, but u can spend money to make the facade nicer / specs better (via renovation) later on if got money ....

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thanks for ur opinion..the most full factor that attract me to Alam Nusantara was location..somemore, SP Setia just announced that they will develop National Health Institute..

for me, SP Setia will max/full throttle to make sure their plan for Setia Alam succesfull since its key player for Klang Valley development..

but, BBR not too far from SA

very tough decision lorr icon_question.gif

btw, i work at KL..either will use NKVE or Shapadu (60sen) and Federal Highway
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For own stay, I will opt for BBR, better size and I also can enjoy SA facilities. Both situated so near, what so worry about location.
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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 18 2011, 08:47 PM)
bro edlim,
when r u going to submit this? u will send in for individual or represent all of fuego owners (get signature from all together)?  rclxms.gif
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i thk more ppl better weight...
if me alone... i thk they will juz throw the paper away nia... small kucicai mah...

bro onewan,

BBR is in the middle... NKVE as well as Shahpadu...
if location, definitely Setia...
i juz hope tis area wun be congested as USJ (Summit area)...
imagine, the entire stretch of setia highway jam to exit NKVE (happen few times when accident or etc)...
if evyday like tat... ciaklat sad.gif
neway, BBR is kinda value for money...
it's juz a street over nia... hence, BBR resident will juz tumpang infra hehehe rclxms.gif
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what future plan SD regarding Jalan Meru??only put traffic light only ??

as i ask SD,they said middle of this year..

atleast must have 4lane every side lorr tongue.gif


actually,i already sign S&P for Alam Nusantara.now, bank keep pushing me to sign the loan sad.gif

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QUOTE(onewan @ Jan 18 2011, 11:56 PM)
what future plan SD regarding Jalan Meru??only put traffic light only ??

as i ask SD,they said middle of this year..

atleast must have 4lane every side lorr  tongue.gif
actually,i already sign S&P for Alam Nusantara.now, bank keep pushing me to sign the loan  sad.gif
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if already signed S&P,there'll be penalty rite for not honour the agreement....is it worth to cancel Alam Nusantara for BBR..?
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QUOTE(salam03 @ Jan 19 2011, 12:07 AM)
if already signed S&P,there'll be penalty rite for not honour the agreement....is it worth to cancel Alam Nusantara for BBR..?
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i called PKNS person in charge, he said only lost what i paid..500 booking fee and 650 disbursment S&P only sweat.gif

he didnt mentioned any penalty wub.gif
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QUOTE(onewan @ Jan 19 2011, 12:10 AM)
i called PKNS person in charge, he said only lost what i paid..500 booking fee and 650 disbursment S&P only  sweat.gif

he didnt mentioned any penalty  wub.gif
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can delay till SD launch Avani on 22 Jan....then decide,only 3 days to go....
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yelorrr..my plan now, try to get a good unit of Avani..if cant, i will stick with Alam Nusantara..

btw, i went to sales galery last saturday. SD open for staff purchase..saw arround 50unit already reserved vmad.gif
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U guys r so rich can afford Fuego & Paloma. shakehead.gif
I just wonder u guys work in those multi national company can pay u monthly 10K just to pay for those loan sweat.gif
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you say expensive but full take up.

but this site is not as expensive as SA and AB

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I'm very confuse now.
I was interested in AVANI but i just not sure is this the right moment.
Is this the right moment for me to become one property owner.
Or should i wait for other more attractive new launch, seem like general election going to come.
Will there be a correction after GE.
If do, a correction do happen must due to more strict regulation have been introduce to control the price hike.
If that happen, will i still be affordable to buy a house? Won't i being effected also by the regulation itself also.
But if i wait some more, scare chance slip away.
So fellow BBR supporter, can brain wash me with the pro of AVANI BBR?
So that i can confident that AVANI is worth for me to jump into the market.

BTW, AVANI goner be close to Police station, Bomba, and Surau lo.
I think that is the downside to AVANI la.
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Police Station - Did you ever see a robber rob shop next to Police Station? Did you ever hear of police start their car siren from their branch? Haha, I believe you have the answer yourself. Same apply for Bomba and each Police/Bomba station reserve to certain scope restriction to cover (to ensure resources such as manpower, truck etc on high availabilities). One good example is police station @ BBK. It's a peaceful station and all the nearby shop/bank got benefits from it.

Did Surau play song? Hello it's not mosque...
(Correct me if I'm wrong)

As far as Avani goes, it's your own decision.

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QUOTE(onewan @ Jan 18 2011, 11:56 PM)
what future plan SD regarding Jalan Meru??only put traffic light only ??

as i ask SD,they said middle of this year..

atleast must have 4lane every side lorr  tongue.gif
actually,i already sign S&P for Alam Nusantara.now, bank keep pushing me to sign the loan  sad.gif
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again lo....Jalan Meru could have expanded maybe to 3-4lanes we never know as there is still space allocated for expansion. But the traffic flow i personally thinks that it never be as heavy as the NKVE link. I am now staying in Setia Alam and have been using the NKVE for the past 8yrs daily. From what i see, the flow of NKVE is getting heavier (we have bkt jelutong, setia alam, and others housing project along NKVE) with more and more jam every morning. It used to be smooth flow 8yrs ago to KL/Damansara direction but now every morning u will have jam starts somewhr before subang exit.

And FYI, the setia alam to NKVE link, it is only 2lanes and it get slower every morning due to the long queue at the Tenby International skool. No more room to expand.....if u wanna worry about traffic, maybe u should start worry the NKVE rather than the Jalan Meru. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(onewan @ Jan 18 2011, 11:56 PM)
what future plan SD regarding Jalan Meru??only put traffic light only ??

as i ask SD,they said middle of this year..

atleast must have 4lane every side lorr  tongue.gif
actually,i already sign S&P for Alam Nusantara.now, bank keep pushing me to sign the loan  sad.gif
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Told by SD there will be 4 lane each side But ONLY some short distance at the traffic light there.
to be start work mid of this year.


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again lo....Jalan Meru could have expanded maybe to 3-4lanes we never know as there is still space allocated for expansion. But the traffic flow i personally thinks that it never be as heavy as the NKVE link. I am now staying in Setia Alam and have been using the NKVE for the past 8yrs daily. From what i see, the flow of NKVE is getting heavier (we have bkt jelutong, setia alam, and others housing project along NKVE) with more and more jam every morning. It used to be smooth flow 8yrs ago to KL/Damansara direction but now every morning u will have jam starts somewhr before subang exit.

And FYI, the setia alam to NKVE link, it is only 2lanes and it get slower every morning due to the long queue at the Tenby International skool. No more room to expand.....if u wanna worry about traffic, maybe u should start worry the NKVE rather than the Jalan Meru.  hmm.gif
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yup, there is long queue in the morning at Tenby International school when i going to work, not everyday but most of the time.
But again, SA really more convinient compare to BBR.

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QUOTE(ahchaikia @ Jan 19 2011, 01:42 AM)
I'm very confuse now.
I was interested in AVANI but i just not sure is this the right moment.
Is this the right moment for me to become one property owner.
Or should i wait for other more attractive new launch, seem like general election going to come.
Will there be a correction after GE.
If do, a correction do happen must due to more strict regulation have been introduce to control the price hike.
If that happen, will i still be affordable to buy a house? Won't i being effected also by the regulation itself also.
But if i wait some more, scare chance slip away.
So fellow BBR supporter, can brain wash me with the pro of AVANI BBR?
So that i can confident that AVANI is worth for me to jump into the market.

BTW, AVANI goner be close to Police station, Bomba, and Surau lo.
I think that is the downside to AVANI la.
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GE or not, affecting or not the pricing.....it is very subjective call. U wait, u worry the price will further shoot up. U buy now, u worry the price would gone down after GE.

I guess the point of consideration should be - are u buying for own stay OR for investment? If own stay, don't give a damn on all those factors. Price correction also won't be a 50% of the current price. As long as u like the location, the house design, u think it is worth of $$, then go ahead.

Some ppl whom have been waiting price to drop since 2007 could have carry on waiting and ended up never buy a single thing till now.
Some ppl whom have been aggressively buying since 2007 till now could have been a self-proclaimed millionaire now.
Nothing is right or wrong decision to make, as long as u think it is worth the $$ u spent.

just my 2cents punye opinion..... cool2.gif


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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 19 2011, 08:33 AM)
Told by SD there will be 4 lane each side But ONLY some short distance at the traffic light there.
to be start work mid of this year.


Added on January 19, 2011, 8:39 am

yup, there is long queue in the morning at Tenby International school when i going to work, not everyday but most of the time.
But again, SA really more convinient compare to BBR.
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i just start to sense what would happen next once all setia alam/nusantara/ecopark fully occupied. With the 2 lanes heading to the NKVE link, it seems more likely the traffic gonna turn disaster in comparison to the Jalan Meru stretch that everyone is worrying about.

By the way, why everyone kept worrying about traffic?? Isn't all densely populated residential area will face the same issue? Instead of worrying the traffic gonna be worse, why not a change of mindset to do car-pooling? Infrastructure/township planning will not be able to cope up with the increasing numbers of vehicle. hmm.gif



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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 19 2011, 08:43 AM)
i just start to sense what would happen next once all setia alam/nusantara/ecopark fully occupied. With the 2 lanes heading to the NKVE link, it seems more likely the traffic gonna turn disaster in comparison to the Jalan Meru stretch that everyone is worrying about.

lidat, good for bbr meh? stuck worse at meru side if trying to go nkve way.

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lidat, good for bbr meh? stuck worse at meru side if trying to go nkve way.
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if that really happens, all will go thru Jalan Meru heading to Federal Hiway pulak...... brows.gif
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i thk more ppl better weight...
if me alone... i thk they will juz throw the paper away nia... small kucicai mah...

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bro edlim,

ajak me sekali when u go for SD thumbup.gif
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bro edlim,

ajak me sekali when u go for SD  thumbup.gif
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me too anytime, i'm in setia alam onli ma....2min drive away to BBR flex.gif
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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 19 2011, 08:56 AM)
if that really happens, all will go thru Jalan Meru heading to Federal Hiway pulak...... brows.gif
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the guys on setia side can also do the same - meru will be all jammed up same same!! biggrin.gif


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I'm very confuse now.
I was interested in AVANI but i just not sure is this the right moment.
Is this the right moment for me to become one property owner.
Or should i wait for other more attractive new launch, seem like general election going to come.
Will there be a correction after GE.
If do, a correction do happen must due to more strict regulation have been introduce to control the price hike.

if thinking to buy to goreng or rent, forget it.
if buying for own stay, ok wan. just dun expect 10% up every year.
freehold houses are more in demand than highrise.
ge impact maybe high price projects. common houses will be fine for long term.

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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 19 2011, 09:08 AM)
me too anytime, i'm in setia alam onli ma....2min drive away to BBR  flex.gif
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yeahhh... supportor... lets ask SD make fuego into perfect for our future stay rclxms.gif

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still got Fuego? it's still in my dream list, the design atleast.
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 19 2011, 09:29 AM)
still got Fuego? it's still in my dream list, the design atleast.
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only left bumi unit available now. heard that they will release the "stratigic unit" in the future with highier price.
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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 19 2011, 09:36 AM)
only left bumi unit available now. heard that they will release the "stratigic unit" in the future with highier price.
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confirmed gonna release so called strategic units, heard was sometime in March'11, with a price up of 15% again at some rm628k for the phase I Fuego. Advised by Georgie boy of SD sales guy.


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QUOTE(onewan @ Jan 18 2011, 11:56 PM)
what future plan SD regarding Jalan Meru??only put traffic light only ??

as i ask SD,they said middle of this year..

atleast must have 4lane every side lorr  tongue.gif
actually,i already sign S&P for Alam Nusantara.now, bank keep pushing me to sign the loan  sad.gif
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bro, frankly, Setia is a nice place smile.gif
if ord sign S&P - heck lor... dun get distracted to much unless price lotsa diff.
go take a look @ Avani, then compare wif AN hse...
end of the day, go wif ur judgement whether isit worth it as well as environment too...
personally, the area ard lake is still ok... the outer Taipan (facing Meru) shld have better take-up rate...

QUOTE(ahchaikia @ Jan 19 2011, 01:42 AM)
I'm very confuse now.
I was interested in AVANI but i just not sure is this the right moment.
Is this the right moment for me to become one property owner.
Or should i wait for other more attractive new launch, seem like general election going to come.
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in this case... sorry bro, u r on ur own...
we cant brainwash ya & cant predict the future too...
like many mention here, own stay -> wat for worry bout future price...
as long u r comfy wif the area and budget, it shld still be workable smile.gif
Btw, evy taman oso got Surau mah...
And having a bomba & balai police is a pluspoint (deterrent)...
but dun rely fully on balai police, there are cases whr robbery/theft is juz beside balai police...

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 19 2011, 08:54 AM)
lidat, good for bbr meh? stuck worse at meru side if trying to go nkve way.
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i notice Meru has buffer @ its road shoulder...
for them to add another lane or two might not be a problem...
maybe it's there to cater for future expansion,
besides, BBR is in the middle - hence can select either NKVE or F/Hway smile.gif

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bro edlim,

ajak me sekali when u go for SD  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 19 2011, 09:08 AM)
me too anytime, i'm in setia alam onli ma....2min drive away to BBR  flex.gif
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hehehe great... but my SA said can email her and she will fwd to management...
aft the management feedback - then we decide to meet them personally to follow up or etc. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 19 2011, 09:11 AM)
the guys on setia side can also do the same - meru will be all jammed up same same!! biggrin.gif
that is what i meant, once densely populated, traffic issue is unavoidable. The Jalan Meru before Setia Alam/BBR was a single lane towards the pekan meru side some 10yrs back.....never u see much traffic. Expanded to 2lanes, then u see more traffic due to increasing ppl in the new residential. Might expand again to 3 lanes, but when will it be enuff to cater for more and more cars and ppl??? hmm.gif

so, forget to consider about the traffic issue, which is prone to all residential area especially those hot ones. my 2sen punye opinion..... yawn.gif


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hehehe great... but my SA said can email her and she will fwd to management...
aft the management feedback - then we decide to meet them personally to follow up or etc.  hmm.gif
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Great .. can oso rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 19 2011, 10:04 AM)
Great .. can oso rclxm9.gif
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heihei.....one more thing i noticed on the Fuego unit.
can we also write to them regarding the staircase which is not fully covered by the laminated timber flooring? the staircase was not fully covered and the side skirting is not provided. shocking.gif

it was fully covered on paloma, but not Fuego. I asked several times and they kept saying it is not provided......isn't it funny??
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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 19 2011, 09:57 AM)
so, forget to consider about the traffic issue, which is prone to all residential area especially those hot ones.  my 2sen punye opinion.....  yawn.gif
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korek korek... no trafiic jam means nobody goes there, nobody buy, price cheap, people not happy. tongue.gif

actuali, jelutong-denai alam side now also very jialat... long q in the morning trying to get onto nkve. thousands of houses coming up too. nkve traffic will be lessened when they start eltina east and the road ->kota d road. dunno when - ini sime baby big projek.

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 19 2011, 10:29 AM)
korek korek... no trafiic jam means nobody goes there, nobody buy, price cheap, people not happy. tongue.gif

actuali, jelutong-denai alam side now also very jialat... long q in the morning trying to get onto nkve. thousands of houses coming up too. nkve traffic will be lessened when they start eltina east and the road ->kota d road. dunno when - ini sime baby big projek.
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yup.....that is exactly what is happening to all the densely populated areas. I foresee this gonna happen to setia alam link to nkve too very soon. Unless some new hiway gonna come up to catch up with the traffic, else there is no other option.

to avoid all the traffic issue, u gotta start moving to some very far place from the city centre lo.....maybe bukit beruntung??? hahhaa brows.gif
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edlim : add another 2 in for the petition (myself & my friend on Jln 15). but I don't want to rely on emails.

We can all send emails individually but can't prove the email belongs to the owners and will create too many emails to read, easier to click delete then. cc-ing the rest by one representative doesn't mean the rest agrees and perhaps our email will end up in spam thanks to their server. Forwarding one another also questionable.

I prefer to print black and white, we sign, pass to the rep and get acknowledged upon handing over. At the same time ask for the management contacts for sending our registered mail, then another one to follow up in a week.

I don't mind doing some leg work on this after returning on Jan 26.
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no problem...
aft i email, then i'll fax too...
at the same time, perhaps we can fax to all of us, we sign
then last person, pls fax to BBR... isit ok?
but who gonna draft the message?
any1... aft drafted, email then we modified and finalized b4 email and fax the same copy... isit ok tis way?
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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 19 2011, 10:43 AM)
no problem...
aft i email, then i'll fax too...
at the same time, perhaps we can fax to all of us, we sign
then last person, pls fax to BBR... isit ok?
but who gonna draft the message?
any1... aft drafted, email then we modified and finalized b4 email and fax the same copy... isit ok tis way?
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kasi pikin one session minum somewhr in setia alam side, then lets discuss and draft one shot...... icon_rolleyes.gif
i will fly off on 7feb and back on 16feb.
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Was hoping you could start the 1st draft based on your previous interaction with developer for your floorings, formal letter writing kinda my weak point.

I'm in singapore, no training during weekend so can make a trip back Sat by noon if you all wanna meet up at the sales office/mamak after lunch time to brainstorm. or else anytime after Jan 26.

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QUOTE(celicacultus @ Jan 19 2011, 11:08 AM)
Was hoping you could start the 1st draft based on your previous interaction with developer for your floorings, formal letter writing kinda my weak point smile.gif

I'm in singapore, no training during weekend so can make a trip back Sat by noon if you all wanna meet up at the sales office/mamak after lunch.  or else anytime after Jan 26.
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seems several Fuego buyers that we know so far are mostly working in oversea......kayanye....haha
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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 19 2011, 11:16 AM)
seems several Fuego buyers that we know so far are mostly working in oversea......kayanye....haha
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work overseas cari rezeki halal, duit banyak. demi anak2 dan isteri tongue.gif
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No wonder so many rich ppl snap up the Paloma & Feugo so fast!! shakehead.gif
Rite now is a kiasu trend everybody snap the hot properties like there no tml whistling.gif

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work overseas cari rezeki halal, duit banyak. demi anak2 dan isteri tongue.gif
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Can paloma owner join the sip sip teh tarik session?

I wanted the same for paloma but I guess it won't work because no paloma buyer at LYN.

Need to think of way to shift to fuego side already hahaha.

I'll reach Malaysia 27th should be free from 27th - 30th night time after 7PM.

Buzzzz meee....if there is any plan for some sip sip session.
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 19 2011, 12:58 PM)
Can paloma owner join the sip sip teh tarik session?

I wanted the same for paloma but I guess it won't work because no paloma buyer at LYN.

Need to think of way to shift to fuego side already hahaha.

I'll reach Malaysia 27th should be free from 27th - 30th night time after 7PM.

Buzzzz meee....if there is any plan for some sip sip session.
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lets make it happen la.....say on 28th Jan evening? I am around anytime before 7th Feb.

aiya, paloma keh, fuego keh, ellis keh, kita saja minum teh abit to create the BBR community. I found the BBR forum, but seems mostly malay running the forum and macam i the onli few chinese forumer. Need to make up the topic there....maybe i will create a Fuego/paloma topic there which till now takda....
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Let's come with a new domain la...aiyo..

Or if possible, we can hook on SA forum if they allowed. At the end of the day, it's about tenant beneficial that we trying pull off from the developers.

Otherwise, we can form a new forum. Not hard; a domain name and a free to use forum tools.

Let me know!
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Hi,

Anyone knows how the balloting process is like for Sime Darby properties? I'm interested in the Avani units that they will launch soon. Will individuals need to queue from wee hours of the morning just to get in and "qualify" for the ballot process?
Also, how is access to KL from Bukit Raja? An hour in traffic conditions? Haven't decided if I'll make it a home or investment. Just thought of getting a unit of my own and worry about that later:p

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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 19 2011, 02:26 PM)
lets make it happen la.....say on 28th Jan evening? I am around anytime before 7th Feb.

aiya, paloma keh, fuego keh, ellis keh, kita saja minum teh abit to create the BBR community. I found the BBR forum, but seems mostly malay running the forum and macam i the onli few chinese forumer. Need to make up the topic there....maybe i will create a Fuego/paloma topic there which till now takda....
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28 Jan evening sounds good...
ya, the existing BBR forum is lousy, forming a new forum seems to be a better idea
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Read this last nite :

http://www.bukitraja.net/t832p15-penubuhan...ndar-bukit-raja

" Rasanya yang lebih praktikal adalah gabungan semua penduduk
BBR dibawah payung '1Masjid'. "

Why not just a simple "1BBR"? if you know what i mean

Luckily got comment :

"1Masjid jadi payung tak berapa sesuai.. banyak ahli persatuan campur Muslim dan non-muslim.
Gabungan Persatuan Penduduk rasanya sesuai."


Anyway, IMHO, we should focus on setting up a Pro Tem Association for Fuego/Paloma for the alarm wiring and other issues.

BTW, "fuego simedarby" has changed name to "Fuego Paloma" on Facebook. Will update more info on Paloma ...

Jan 28 => OK

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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 19 2011, 04:02 PM)
Let's come with a new domain la...aiyo..

Or if possible, we can hook on SA forum if they allowed. At the end of the day, it's about tenant beneficial that we trying pull off from the developers.

Otherwise, we can form a new forum. Not hard; a domain name and a free to use forum tools.

Let me know!
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prolly we can setup a free forum kua... like forumup, etc.
yeah, init wanted to post @ bbr.net but then see their response kinda slow...
SARA is powerfui smile.gif Got few very active member to keep the site super quick respons biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ebuq @ Jan 19 2011, 05:51 PM)
28 Jan evening sounds good...
ya, the existing BBR forum is lousy, forming a new forum seems to be a better idea
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Jan 28 ar, ok kua... nite lor... by the time i come back ord kinda late...
smore, tis is the last weekend for last min shopping, deco etc b4 CNY smile.gif

btw, bro editor... do join smile.gif
but i thk if to ask for upgrade on ur unit is abit too late....
Paloma progress is DAMN FAST...
Amazing that in 6mths, the progress is stunning... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Indeed..too fast. Everytime i visit my uncle house i pay paloma a visit. Expecting key before actual date. Mmmmm
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will only reach KL on 30th Jan and will miss the teh tarik session with u guys...dono wether u guys prefer to meet on 30th not... hahahha tongue.gif
anyway, u guys do keep me update after the meet up thumbup.gif

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the Avani launching for SD staff was selling fast.....heard some 50-60% lots being taken up......crazy!
means tinggal itu saki-baki for open launching tomolo? yawn.gif
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they know the 'insider' news of SD development. therefore, they grabbed like nobody business.

one of the SD staff bought a corner (last few phase) and rent out for tadika.

easy money :-)
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 21 2011, 02:56 PM)
they know the 'insider' news of SD development. therefore, they grabbed like nobody business.

one of the SD staff bought a corner (last few phase) and rent out for tadika.

easy money :-)
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hahhaa, so to say BBR price is still good to go and still in increasing trend?? haha rclxms.gif
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I hope you guys set up the forum with the malays. i dunno why there should be one forum full of malays then one full of chinese, indians what not. come together lah wei! you guys are gonna live together!

anyway, crazy Avani kena rembat so fast! maybe the news about MRT2 in bukit raja?
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Basically the forum that was hosted currently reflect the very beginning phase. Those 1 storey and such.

Recent launch was mostly swarmed by Chinese.

So why not we overtake their forum? Talk to their Prez, we bid over la with some money.
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 21 2011, 03:08 PM)
Basically the forum that was hosted currently reflect the very beginning phase. Those 1 storey and such.

Recent launch was mostly swarmed by Chinese.

So why not we overtake their forum? Talk to their Prez, we bid over la with some money.
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"Power to the people" Pangkah PAS, PKR and DAP.

If you want to make Pakatan work, must work together with the Malays loh. Cannot chinese2 only.

Dah jadi forum politik pulak. Liao!
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no ler..i said, we overtake and make the forum more lively and merrier..


current 1 sad ler...i went once and never go back!
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ask SD about sound barrier for Avani since Feugo will have it..but disappointed, No Plan for Avani rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(onewan @ Jan 21 2011, 08:33 PM)
ask SD about sound barrier for Avani since Feugo will have it..but disappointed, No Plan for Avani  rclxub.gif
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i guess the shapadu hiway wasn't that bad at all. only working hours a bit busy, that is also very very low traffic comparatively to any other hiway.
sound barrier or not wont affect much. I think my side in setia alam is busier and noisier nearby to the NKVE link, after 1-2 months sudah biasa and don't even feel the noise at all. cool2.gif
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tomorrow i come and sibuk2 ke poh can? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 21 2011, 09:23 PM)
tomorrow i come and sibuk2 ke poh can? tongue.gif
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mari lah mari.....ramai2 kasi kecoh the sales office. hahaaaaaa......
all these SD staff must be buying to sell off.....intend to make $$.... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 19 2011, 12:58 PM)
Can paloma owner join the sip sip teh tarik session?

I wanted the same for paloma but I guess it won't work because no paloma buyer at LYN.

Need to think of way to shift to fuego side already hahaha.

I'll reach Malaysia 27th should be free from 27th - 30th night time after 7PM.

Buzzzz meee....if there is any plan for some sip sip session.
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Hi, I'm new here...just got to know about this forum..quite informative...
I'm one of the Paloma purchaser....Would like to join u all but I dun think i'm free on 28th..
Pls keep me update..
Thanks

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let's see how the sales. btw,i'll also attend the launch and i will be bringing 1 red rose with me. greet me if u see me , lol
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hahaha... red rose... maciam match making (juz joking)...
btw, once u guys purchase this unit...
DO NOT WASTE TIME...
surprisingly, SD already setup fences (saw it ytday)...
2day i called... SD staff said yes, they are doing ground works for Avani...
i wasked them wat bout Fuego?
they said, will be ontime... sigh!

i thk rite... is bcoz of their previous plan...
they were suppose to sell 22x75, 24x75 and finally 26x75 fuego (superlink was their last proposal)...
but seems like they push paloma 1st,
good response straight away move wif Fuego...
now tat Setia shows abit slow sales for their 618k 20x70
now is their chance to intro 22x75 wif abt 200k cheaper... y not!
so i thk their permit for the 22x75 (which was applied much earlier) gonna expired or soon...
guess tat's y they start work 1st hehehe...
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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 21 2011, 11:23 PM)
hahaha... red rose... maciam match making (juz joking)...
btw, once u guys purchase this unit...
DO NOT WASTE TIME...
surprisingly, SD already setup fences (saw it ytday)...
2day i called... SD staff said yes, they are doing ground works for Avani...
i wasked them wat bout Fuego?
they said, will be ontime... sigh!

i thk rite... is bcoz of their previous plan...
they were suppose to sell 22x75, 24x75 and finally 26x75 fuego (superlink was their last proposal)...
but seems like they push paloma 1st,
good response straight away move wif Fuego...
now tat Setia shows abit slow sales for their 618k 20x70
now is their chance to intro 22x75 wif abt 200k cheaper... y not!
so i thk their permit for the 22x75 (which was applied much earlier) gonna expired or soon...
guess tat's y they start work 1st hehehe...
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their ontime means? http://www.iproperty.com.my/developments/1883/Fuego/
Completion Date: October 2013 (Expected) ??? ohmy.gif

how come 3 yrs?
we sign S&P on Oct 2010, don't it count from Oct 2010 + 2 yrs = completion at 2012 Oct ?
i am wrong ?

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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 22 2011, 10:13 AM)
their ontime means?  http://www.iproperty.com.my/developments/1883/Fuego/
Completion Date: October 2013 (Expected) ???  ohmy.gif

how come 3 yrs?
we sign S&P on Oct 2010, don't it count from Oct 2010 + 2 yrs = completion at 2012 Oct ?
i am wrong ?
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iproperty's error I guess, Fuego is Q4 2012.

At noon, cars were on both sides of the road outside and a big crowd under the tent in front of the sales office. Guards manning the gate and both doors of the sales office. Most people arriving then just viewed the show houses and left. Didn't go kaypo inside the sales office, but overheard a private Levena sales pitch going on in front of Paloma's showhouse: "i can fetch you there now to see the actual unit ..."

Should be a big sell-out for Avani.




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Hope it doesn't sell well otherwise SD will be over-confident in their product.

They should spend more time on the infrastructure despite having advantages getting signature on local council authorities.

Let's gather and riot in front of SD Sales Office wakakkakakaka!
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 22 2011, 05:06 PM)
Hope it doesn't sell well otherwise SD will be over-confident in their product.

They should spend more time on the infrastructure despite having advantages getting signature on local council authorities.

Let's gather and riot in front of SD Sales Office wakakkakakaka!
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Yeah... SD should build a fly-over at BSA site of Jln Meru and allowed the traffic directly drive into BBR, instead of open a traffic light there, seems don't help much. The same traffic problem will always be there! if only with the traffic light!

They really should spend some on infrastructure!
They done any!??

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Yeah... SD should build a fly-over at BSA site of Jln Meru and allowed the traffic directly drive into BBR, instead of open a traffic light there, seems don't help much. The same traffic problem will always be there! if only with the traffic light!

They really should spend some on infrastructure!
They done any!??
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i agree 101% on this ... For BBR, sime is not interested to spend much on building good infra, just piggy back on existing infra as much as possible ....

I guess it is in their DNA, build houses, not homes ... buyers nowadays are more complicated and demanding, they want something beyond what is delivered on the 20x70/22x75/24x75/26x75 etc plot ... if Sime continue like this, they will lose out in the long run for sure ...

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unfortunately ur hope din come true. today ppl queue to register like the house is free. and those owner of the no being drawed scream like they are winning lottery.
the nombors of registee even go to 300+ for 50 units
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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 22 2011, 05:58 PM)
Yeah... SD should build a fly-over at BSA site of Jln Meru and allowed the traffic directly drive into BBR, instead of open a traffic light there, seems don't help much. The same traffic problem will always be there! if only with the traffic light!

They really should spend some on infrastructure!
They done any!??
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i was told they already have plan to built a flyover...
but prolly will get JKR or MPK involved wif massive lobbying...
then again, it might be a NV between SD, Mahsing, SP Setia and state govt/MPK...
do u know, frm Setia between the 2 schools got 1 traffic light leading to dead end?
if not mistaken, tat land belong to SD (BBR)...
they have plan to built hse thr and perhaps, add a flyover frm ther onwards instead of Meru...
coz otherwise, it might be mis-used by trailers/lorries bypassing Meru to Kapar or so...

QUOTE(supersp @ Jan 22 2011, 06:22 PM)
i agree 101% on this ... For BBR, sime is not interested to spend much on building good infra, just piggy back on existing infra as much as possible ....
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yeah... one thg bout SD's project, they normally take long time to realized...
e.g. USJ/Subang, aft so long baru got flyover, blah2... PH too now slowly growing...
it may take 10yrs or so... coz normally, SD already analyze the area b4 development...
if got potential or have future plans (be it govt or themselves)... baru they will dev. and sell...

QUOTE(xepa @ Jan 22 2011, 10:21 PM)
unfortunately ur hope din come true. today ppl queue to register like the house is free. and those owner of the no being drawed scream like they are winning lottery.
the nombors of registee even go to 300+ for 50 units
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gosh... oni 50units on sale?
so many being book by insiders/staff...
powerful... isyk2... belip tis are mostly investor and trying to earn quick cash upon VP...
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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 22 2011, 11:31 PM)
gosh... oni 50units on sale?
so many being book by insiders/staff...
powerful... isyk2... belip tis are mostly investor and trying to earn quick cash upon VP...
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i've got a brochure from previous visit for Avani. I think the remaining units are reserved for phase 2. It did stated there.
BTW, what's the price for non bumi intermediate unit?

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i've got a brochure from previous visit for Avani. I think the remaining units are reserved for phase 2. It did stated there.
BTW, what's the price for non bumi intermediate unit?
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Hi all,
I'm new here.
I'm an SD staff and i had booked an intermediate avani last week.
If the house is facing south (the highway, i forgot the name), it is rm443k
Those facing north are less rm5k.
This is my first time buying a house, i never knew there would be a difference in price depending on where the house is facing.
They said sebab those facing south is cooler inside.
Guess that may be true as we are actually below the khatulistiwa line..though i feel "perlu ke beza harga sampai rm5k?" hmm.gif

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Don't know how reliable is this :
"Niel" posted on SARA that the flyover project is rejected by council

If this is true, hopefully the West Coast Expressway will be finalized soon and have a direct connection like LKSA & Kemuning/Alam Impian

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usually the south is cooler? no la.... but to chinese, it's better fengshui

but as the sun coming the east in the morning, we try to have that from the balcony side or entrance side lor, so you can dry your clothes outside. by the time the sun going buried, your house will not be affected ma..so cooler lor hahaha..
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wow crazy launch. thank God i didn't go hehe
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i've got a brochure from previous visit for Avani. I think the remaining units are reserved for phase 2. It did stated there.
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An intermediate (non-bumi) price is 438k.
Its not 50 which they sold but 138 on the day. 56 were preselected by staffs from a total of 194 units. Yes, they were snapped up pretty quickly and everyone was eager. There were people putting in multiple bid entries to increase their chances of winning the bid. Luckily me & my gf managed to get selected. Bought 2 units but intermediate only. All corners & endlots were all snapped up by the time its our turn to select our units.
I kinda like that location coz there are two entry/exit point and whole compound can be fenced and guarded in a way, although the police station is just to the north. Funny thing is, units close to the police station were not chosen when we selected our units. Wonder why tongue.gif Also, to the east of the plot are shops. It used to be for housing but we were told by SD staff that they have converted their plans for shops. That meant the area for shops there is huge as its combined with those preplanned shops located just next to Jln. Meru. I'm hoping that this would translate into a buzzling lil town center in time to come.
Well, no regrets now. Will just hafta wait and see.

P/s: Not many units left when we went off and there were still loads of people waiting inside to pick units and outside as waitlist in case some opt out because they cant get unit they want. But I think they would probably finish selling off all units. Quite a few went home empty handed.
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There were people putting in multiple bid entries to increase their chances of winning the bid. Luckily me & my gf managed to get selected. Bought 2 units but intermediate only. All corners & endlots were all snapped up by the time its our turn to select our units.

no offence intended.... but makes u think if really, really, people are buying houses to live or trade.

if bbr now experience this, is same happening in bukit tinggi, bandar botanic, bandar puteri klang?
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unfortunately ur hope din come true. today ppl queue to register like the house is free. and those owner of the no being drawed scream like they are winning lottery.
the nombors of registee even go to 300+ for 50 units
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Onli 50 units for sale? r u sure? tot there gonna be something like 190++ units for sale.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 23 2011, 07:07 AM)
no offence intended.... but makes u think if really, really, people are buying houses to live or trade.

if bbr now experience this, is same happening in bukit tinggi, bandar botanic, bandar puteri klang?
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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 22 2011, 11:31 PM)
i was told they already have plan to built a flyover...
but prolly will get JKR or MPK involved wif massive lobbying...
then again, it might be a NV between SD, Mahsing, SP Setia and state govt/MPK...
do u know, frm Setia between the 2 schools got 1 traffic light leading to dead end?
if not mistaken, tat land belong to SD (BBR)...
they have plan to built hse thr and perhaps, add a flyover frm ther onwards instead of Meru...
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Is this flyover still on?
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i oso dunno... SARA niel said no wor...
well, kena wait and see lor...
5-10yrs plan... anythg can happen...
if the road is too congested, when biz are running and UiTM fully operational...
state govt might built flyover or etc juz like wat they did in Subang/USJ...
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 23 2011, 08:07 AM)
no offence intended.... but makes u think if really, really, people are buying houses to live or trade.

if bbr now experience this, is same happening in bukit tinggi, bandar botanic, bandar puteri klang?
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Agreed. Thats what drives the prices up unfortunately. Nevertheless, its the risk that the individuals take as well if prices starts to drop. I'm not sure if the units I buy is for investment yet tongue.gif but will probably rent it out when its ready and pass it down to kids later. I'm sure prices will be a lot higher 20 years from now, so thought I might as well get it.
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ppl nowadays buying houses like it is free !

fuego rm558k also snapped up
paloma rm488k snapped up
avani rm438k snapped up

wonder where they got those money
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The only adv SD had like I said earlier is the public infrastructure and such.

Giving you same scenario that Govt looking forward to place a Int' local Uni @ Klang.

Where do you think it will be place giving the spot - SA, BBT1, BBT2, AB, whatever....

Common Sense!

Anyway, don't take my word for granted. It might go the other way round! Shoo~~ investor!!!!
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QUOTE(NelsonBoy @ Jan 23 2011, 11:53 AM)
ppl nowadays buying houses like it is free !

fuego rm558k also snapped up
paloma rm488k snapped up
avani rm438k snapped up

wonder where they got those money
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boy,

fuego 575k also ppl buy
paloma 562k also buy


imagine!
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people just buy buy buy, when they lost their job, they just sell sell sell.
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okay need you guys' opinion.

should I buy TTDI Alam Impian, completed, Spira, 436k, 20x70, 1870sqft

or Fuego, Bandar Bukit Raja, completion 2012, 546k, 26x75, 2445sqft

Lets just say I don't mind both locations.
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TTDI....
the infra already there..
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There is alot of other consideration (Other called it factor) that affect your buying decision. Not 'us' definetely.

And JamesPond, the way you put it, you are unsure yourself.

What's the the ...? And Infra. alone enough to do the decision? lol...

I'm not saying TTDI is bad but there is many things that comes into play and not only 'infra ...'
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ed,

an important things, shan alam land is x2 price of klang
that make sense.
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If you were saying the premium land is so valuable, it should've sold off during launch and not during completion after C&F ready.

Again, not against TTDI personally but we're talking about buying a house for home stay and not as speculator.

Otherwise, it would've been KLCC lots.
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 23 2011, 03:29 PM)
okay need you guys' opinion.

should I buy TTDI Alam Impian, completed, Spira, 436k, 20x70, 1870sqft

or Fuego, Bandar Bukit Raja, completion 2012, 546k, 26x75, 2445sqft

Lets just say I don't mind both locations.
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Alam impian is in shah alam whereas BBR is in Klang.

If distance to work place is not a factor, then should consider BBR as the developer is sime with bigger land area.

My personal opinion is when i buy property, i will alway go for unit with bigger width as no extension can be done even you have budget to renovate. Thanks
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 23 2011, 02:29 PM)
okay need you guys' opinion.

should I buy TTDI Alam Impian, completed, Spira, 436k, 20x70, 1870sqft

or Fuego, Bandar Bukit Raja, completion 2012, 546k, 26x75, 2445sqft

Lets just say I don't mind both locations.
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fuego@546k still available?
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if looking for land size...bbr subsale would be ideal.
you may get the same land size with 35%-50% discounted from the recent launch price.

Nowadays, too many youngster just buying new launch due to inexperience and simple to go or follow the flow. Just like stock exchange.
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 23 2011, 02:29 PM)
okay need you guys' opinion.
should I buy TTDI Alam Impian, completed, Spira, 436k, 20x70, 1870sqft
or Fuego, Bandar Bukit Raja, completion 2012, 546k, 26x75, 2445sqft
Lets just say I don't mind both locations.
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if accept both locations, only logical to buy fuego if still available.
however, life is never such.
it will invariably come down to what you value more - access, where you frequent most, schools, neighborhood, demographics, etc.
because these are the key considerations when buying a home in the first place!
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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Jan 23 2011, 03:04 PM)
if looking for land size...bbr subsale would be ideal.
you may get the same land size with 35%-50% discounted from the recent launch price.

Nowadays, too many youngster just buying new launch due to inexperience and simple to go or follow the flow. Just like stock exchange.
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BBR subsale for 22x75 with 35%-50% discounted from the recent launch price@438k?
At abt ~260k, which type!!!???

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QUOTE(NelsonBoy @ Jan 23 2011, 11:53 AM)
ppl nowadays buying houses like it is free !

fuego rm558k also snapped up
paloma rm488k snapped up
avani rm438k snapped up

wonder where they got those money
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BBR subsale for 22x75 with 35%-50% discounted from the recent launch price@438k?
At abt ~260k, which type!!!???
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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Jan 23 2011, 03:04 PM)
if looking for land size...bbr subsale would be ideal.
you may get the same land size with 35%-50% discounted from the recent launch price.
Nowadays, too many youngster just buying new launch due to inexperience and simple to go or follow the flow. Just like stock exchange.
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this part also quite true.
maybe not cheap cheap but there are good subsale buys everywhere, just need to put in more time and effort.

thing is young people like new things...
not saying old folks don't! tongue.gif

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Thanks to banker lo
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Ya lo
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ya, count me in!
from wat i know, BBR's 22x75 subsale are asking ard 430k - 500k ++ now.

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which subsale?

i like fuego coz of its design. seems spacious. connectivity wise, im thinking simply taking the setia alam link to NKVE and balik kampung in subang.

plus SD were saying theyre building a golf course. and setia alam will be a vibrant city with the mall what not. can go and use their facility no prob.

but i do hope they do something about jalan meru.

btw, BBR subsales where got 30% 50% less than new BBR recently launched?

As for TTDI AI it's completed. can rent out quick but unsure about take up on rent. zero facilities. but really like Naza's plan for this one. connectivity, LKSA, kesas and federal (altho jam like hell) quite helpful.

damn dilemma. if i got millions (or if i anak emas my dada) surely can buy both lol.
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How many BBR subsales units available hmm.gif
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How many BBR subsales units available  hmm.gif
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plenty like anywhere else:
http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...99&lo=&wp=&ns=1
older ones with small build much lower priced.
newer ones like levena... think up >30% from original - better buy new! biggrin.gif

bbr not spared from goringers lo... matter of how long and how high it go.
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207,000.00
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Jalan Unta, Bandar Bukit Raja, 41150 Klang, Selangor
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41150 suppose not at BBR ler?...it is at berkely lar. totaly diffrent place.
somemore, as i know, the houses there almost > 15 yrs old.
correct me if i m wrong...

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james pond is right.

have a look at this one

http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...k_House_ForSale
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james pond is right.

have a look at this one

http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...k_House_ForSale
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From map in the link, it is far away from BBR & BSA. it is on the other site of klang. It is (ker kang) in hokian, over the river at the other site of klang.

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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 23 2011, 04:43 PM)
From map in the link, it is far away from BBR & BSA. it is on the other site of klang. It is (ker kang) in hokian, over the river at the other site of klang.
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Check again. Jalan inang is inside the SD BBR township.
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1st of all - jeghui, you buying for ownstay?

What's your requirement? Easiest cut to work? Amenities? Investment? Rent out?



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Check again. Jalan inang is inside the SD BBR township.
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y jalan inang? i tot jalan unta ->

207,000.00
Land Area : 1600 sq.ft
Jalan Unta, Bandar Bukit Raja, 41150 Klang, Selangor




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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 23 2011, 05:24 PM)
1st of all - jeghui, you buying for ownstay?

What's your requirement? Easiest cut to work? Amenities? Investment? Rent out?

You know the best deal yourself and still I don't understand the need to ask for third party opinion. It's your d*mn house. I see no purpose of such question and the way ppl replied is beyond answering what you need.

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Deyy tambi. If u dowan to give opinion. Diam2 lah. U shud be proud fellow forumer wanted to ask ur opinion. But if u got nothing to suggest, thiam2 sudahhh.

Kerja singapore sudah mau berlagak hahaha

Fuego, I'm referring the one I attached
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Latest update on Avani sales..

Non-bumi lot finished

bumi lot still left for 5 unit.

flyover project proceed but maybe take time..it will cost 40mil according to JKR..

golf course 18holes, project proceed since SD already pay US consultant for some million.

there have a plan to relocate Hos Ampuan Rahimah near Klang Sentral. SD already meet Mentri Besar,but i think its impossible..
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Avani has G&G?
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Avani starting from 438k is a good price....
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QUOTE(onewan @ Jan 23 2011, 10:23 PM)
Latest update on Avani sales..

Non-bumi lot finished

bumi lot still left for 5 unit.

flyover project proceed but maybe take time..it will cost 40mil according to JKR..

golf course 18holes, project proceed since SD already pay US consultant for some million.

there have a plan to relocate Hos Ampuan Rahimah near Klang Sentral. SD already meet Mentri Besar,but i think its impossible..
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Onewan,

How many is bumi lot, and non bumi?
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QUOTE(onewan @ Jan 23 2011, 10:23 PM)
Latest update on Avani sales..

Non-bumi lot finished

bumi lot still left for 5 unit.

flyover project proceed but maybe take time..it will cost 40mil according to JKR..

golf course 18holes, project proceed since SD already pay US consultant for some million.

there have a plan to relocate Hos Ampuan Rahimah near Klang Sentral. SD already meet Mentri Besar,but i think its impossible..
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how did u know all of these? your source? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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HE WAS THERE LO
ME ALSO
TRY TO SNATCH ONE BUT FAIL TO DO SO
DAMN
I quite like the Avani ...
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HE WAS THERE LO
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I quite like the Avani ...
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That one everybody also knows..i was talking about the gold course and the flyover..are those project confirmed?
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QUOTE(thefieldengineer @ Jan 24 2011, 07:42 AM)
That one everybody also knows..i was talking about the gold course and the flyover..are those project confirmed?
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Golf course: i think it's possible but dont think it would be done within 5 years.

Fuego also some units still available. but bumi lots lah.

Avani take up rate quite impressive. despite the so called 'design flaw'.

but i still dont mind 100k more for bigger Fuego. hehe.
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 24 2011, 08:39 AM)
Golf course: i think it's possible but dont think it would be done within 5 years.

Fuego also some units still available. but bumi lots lah.

Avani take up rate quite impressive. despite the so called 'design flaw'.

but i still dont mind 100k more for bigger Fuego. hehe.
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Since Avani is sold off soooooooo rapidly, i believe the next will be the Fuego so-called strategic unit to be released very very soon. Again, i heard some 15% hike from the previous price of 546k (phase 1) and 575k (phase 2). Who knows even more due to hot response??

Phase 1 Fuego - 628k?
Phase 2 Fuego - 661k?
rclxub.gif

keng ah! this BBR suddenly become hot spot. I went to BBR sales office at 930am on sat, full house all the ppl bringing along one BIG envelope with all the $$$/docs getting ready for war! then about 11am i was in Setia Alam sales office and macam tengah hentam lalat! Perhaps Setia Alam really overpriced at 580k for a 20x70 linkhouse..... icon_rolleyes.gif



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QUOTE(onewan @ Jan 23 2011, 10:23 PM)
Latest update on Avani sales..

Non-bumi lot finished

bumi lot still left for 5 unit.

flyover project proceed but maybe take time..it will cost 40mil according to JKR..

golf course 18holes, project proceed since SD already pay US consultant for some million.

there have a plan to relocate Hos Ampuan Rahimah near Klang Sentral. SD already meet Mentri Besar,but i think its impossible..
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anyone know how many units open for sale on saturday excluded those units being reserved before launch?

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BBR is not GnG township
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If they propose to have G&G then will be the best....better than setia alam...
nowadays safety come 1st......

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QUOTE(MsApprentice @ Jan 24 2011, 09:24 AM)
If they propose to have G&G then will be the best....better than setia alam...
nowadays safety come 1st......
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it's not part of their plan to offer GnG. And As the layout map spread out you can see the houses are open type plan.

just to share with you guys, Paloma with nice numbers not fully taken up. It seems the people are not happy with the way SD does this strategy. selling nice numbers.

I personally dont mind, for own stay, number 4 as I dont believe in Feng Shui.

And I dont want to be carried away with this number obsession (eventhough my work deals a lot about numbers).

But it's merely a personal choice. thumbup.gif
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anyone know how many units open for sale on saturday excluded those units being reserved before launch?
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138 was on sale on saturday. Total 194. The rest were prebooked by staff


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Since Avani is sold off soooooooo rapidly, i believe the next will be the Fuego so-called strategic unit to be released very very soon. Again, i heard some 15% hike from the previous price of 546k (phase 1) and 575k (phase 2). Who knows even more due to hot response??

Phase 1 Fuego - 628k?
Phase 2 Fuego - 661k?
rclxub.gif

keng ah! this BBR suddenly become hot spot. I went to BBR sales office at 930am on sat, full house all the ppl bringing along one BIG envelope with all the $$$/docs getting ready for war! then about 11am i was in Setia Alam sales office and macam tengah hentam lalat! Perhaps Setia Alam really overpriced at 580k for a 20x70 linkhouse..... icon_rolleyes.gif
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I think next launch is sometime in May/June? I overheard someone talking to sale person. Lake-side 2 1/2 storey 26x75. She said boss told her gonna be around 700+k

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QUOTE(simonhoh @ Jan 24 2011, 10:59 AM)
138 was on sale on saturday. Total 194. The rest were prebooked by staff


Added on January 24, 2011, 11:01 am

I think next launch is sometime in May/June? I overheard someone talking to sale person. Lake-side 2 1/2 storey 26x75. She said boss told her gonna be around 700+k
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Anymore info on this? 700k+ is for intermediate? Pricey...



Btw Jeghui, no, I'm not working at SG. Try looking at my sentences in positive way. I'm not here to create hatred. nod.gif

I've modify it if you find it offensive enough. Still, I'm on my same thinking. If you are here to ask for possible amenities, how SD doing & going, probably you will get your answer but asking for another's opinion for a house is kinda..odd. Anyway, ignore me tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 24 2011, 11:34 AM)
Anymore info on this? 700k+ is for intermediate? Pricey...
Btw Jeghui, no, I'm not working at SG. Try looking at my sentences in positive way. I'm not here to create hatred.  nod.gif
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maybe YOU should look at what you wrote. "your damn house". "i dont understand why you should ask 3rd party opinion" bla bla bla.

Yes, I can relate what the officer said semalam. 700k +. the houses tepi lake.
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 24 2011, 11:39 AM)
Yes, I can relate what the officer said semalam. 700k +. the houses tepi lake.
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hi possibility for the 2.5 lakeside, since fuego phase2 strategic unit will be closer to some 700k also
judging on the price per sqft, still not so much expensive
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anybody knows whats going to happen to the piece of land to the east side of jalan meru? if im not mistaken, that land belongs to SD as well.
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anybody knows whats going to happen to the piece of land to the east side of jalan meru? if im not mistaken, that land belongs to SD as well.
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r u refering to that piece of cleared land?
according to SD, that piece not belongs to SD since SD had sold to other party last time.
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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 24 2011, 02:55 PM)
r u refering to that piece of cleared land?
according to SD, that piece not belongs to SD since SD had sold to other party last time.
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Mutiara Bukit Raja? If you see wikimapia lah. or maybe people curi pasir. LOL
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I thought the piece of land belong to SD. They coming with light indus. zone. sad.gif
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the whole land was sold to Mutiara Bukit Raja? i thought only a portion of the land was sold. not the whole thing. did i assume wrong?
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being told the piece that been cleared for last few months.

asking SA wat kind of dev. they said dono, they never being informed.

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If the golf course to be given a nod. BBR is so nice to stay. eventhough its far
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If the golf course to be given a nod. BBR is so nice to stay. eventhough its far
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How true is this golf course thingee? drool.gif
which part of land?
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It's at the backyard. The stretch run till AP side.
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hi possibility for the 2.5 lakeside, since fuego phase2 strategic unit will be closer to some 700k also
judging on the price per sqft, still not so much expensive
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Thats assuming the investors in SA wont goreng from now till June. Otherwise surely price increase again.

I didnt know there were plans for a golf course. Is that confirmed? So its a club house?

Anyone knows wots the big piece of land to the north planned for?
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It's at the backyard. The stretch run till AP side.
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Not for bunglow anymore?
being told to be semi and bunglow on that piece during fuego launch.
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How true is this golf course thingee? drool.gif
which part of land?
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hei-hei-hei.......macam all investors saja.
golf course not going to affect anything unless u mau jual la. else, hari2 play golf meh? rclxms.gif
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hei-hei-hei.......macam all investors saja.
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for own stay its oso 'nice to have' thumbup.gif
surely not as of now, but who know... in the future? haha rclxms.gif

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surely not as of now, but who know... in the future? haha  rclxms.gif
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your nick u put Fuego, if u sell off, u memang mau kena belasah liao la......haha flex.gif

SD darn slow one la, if golf course happen also maybe N yrs later la.....ur fuego pun sudah ready loooooong enuff lo
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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 24 2011, 05:57 PM)
your nick u put Fuego, if u sell off, u memang mau kena belasah liao la......haha  flex.gif

SD darn slow one la, if golf course happen also maybe N yrs later la.....ur fuego pun sudah ready loooooong enuff lo
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haha... my wrong, i should't put 'future', should be 'future upgrade' as wat I meant biggrin.gif

as well, for own stay its a 'nice to have', y not thumbup.gif

by the way, wat is loooooong ? hahaha

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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 24 2011, 03:53 PM)
being told the piece that been cleared for last few months.

asking SA wat kind of dev. they said dono, they never being informed.
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if toking abt the cleared land fronting jn meru, editor is rite.
go look closer - signboard "kilang perdana" or sumting like dat.

goringirs? relax - semua tempat ada la. question is 50% or 90%.

will be impossible to find any dev with <50% fryers buying today. dev n staff dgn discount tahu jugak.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 24 2011, 06:09 PM)
if toking abt the cleared land fronting jn meru, editor is rite.
go look closer - signboard "kilang perdana" or sumting like dat.

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confirmed by SD sale person, the cleared land fronting jn meru not belongs to SD, developer not SD

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hapiss!!! hope it doesn't come with some crazy plan..

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i was told by BIG BOSS Bukit Raja project that flyover project will be proceed but take time since it will cost 40mil.

if SD do it now,they gonna pass this cost to their future launch. according to big boss,gov instruct SD to offer the affordable hse price.that why SD revised Avani price (early expected was 480k ----> 438k) rclxms.gif

they will start by make traffic light by this June. East of Avani was commercial dev by SD and expected to launch by this March/April, followed by 2.5storey next to tasek..price start from 700+

near the traffic light at tasek,they proposed the land to be built nursing college.. blush.gif

18holes golf course will be create since SD already paid the US consultant mil ringgit.i dont know when this project will be starting hmm.gif

for the land that SD solt to Mutiara Bukit Raja,its was small piece of land and SD still acquire another and plan to make medium apprtment in 2013 icon_rolleyes.gif

sekian,

saya yang melaporkan
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good laporan encik wan.
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 23 2011, 04:25 PM)
james pond is right.

have a look at this one

http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...k_House_ForSale
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Actually, even b4 Fuego was launch...
wifey n i already look @ tis corner lot...
450k, i thk earlier was like 480k...
soli lar to the owner, i dunno how the hell he reno...
till really mess up the design...
tis hse got 2 entrance - main gate and side...
both oso got autogate... built-in cabinet makes the place looks small...
especially the built-in wardrobe... gosh... sempit man for rooms...
u know, even the agent frankly told me, i'm not the oni 1 tat commented...
btw, side and back extension, side gate opening, all no permit sad.gif

Jln Unta @ 207k -> that's a really good buy...
i cant find any in iProps, the oni 1 came out was Auction (#9x, Jln Unta, 41150 Klang)
any links / personal sales? my cousin will really be interested...
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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 24 2011, 10:18 PM)

btw, side and back extension, side gate opening, all no permit sad.gif
eh bro, if no permit for those reno, any probs with authority?
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frankly... MPK tidak apa....
but if they are to have operasi crackdown maciam MBSA...
KANTOI wor... i heard each illegal extension w/o permit (can be settled undertable) but can tahan not, evy yr come kacau for angpow...

otherwise, i thk its 10k for each illegal reno w/o permit...
even aft submit, still no guarantee approved...
for the new purchaser, baik tiam2 go apply and snap oth corner lot that's empty and submit for approval...
get a "connected arkitek" for faster approval...

but frankly, oppsite tis hse, the frt neigh. corner lot...
DAMN SWEEEEEE (major reno)....
if tis fella made it till like tat... 100k xtra oso i will offer (580k frm 480k)...
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What is SD means here?
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Sick Di**. Ok jokes aside, it's Sime Darby.
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Sick Di**. Ok jokes aside, it's Sime Darby.
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adehhh..skt prut
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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 24 2011, 11:12 PM)
frankly... MPK tidak apa....
but if they are to have operasi crackdown maciam MBSA...
KANTOI wor... i heard each illegal extension w/o permit (can be settled undertable) but can tahan not, evy yr come kacau for angpow...

otherwise, i thk its 10k for each illegal reno w/o permit...
even aft submit, still no guarantee approved...
for the new purchaser, baik tiam2 go apply and snap oth corner lot that's empty and submit for approval...
get a "connected arkitek" for faster approval...

but frankly, oppsite tis hse, the frt neigh. corner lot...
DAMN SWEEEEEE (major reno)....
if tis fella made it till like tat... 100k xtra oso i will offer (580k frm 480k)...
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MPK titun one la.....u can do whatever u want as long as u bayar angpow. Korupsi kuat!
U can even pay the pegawai atasan to delete your file for the yearly angpow thingy. Pay only ma!


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Is the gathering still on?

Who's going? Let's make a list. Then I will PM the organizer my contact! smile.gif
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Is the gathering still on?

Who's going? Let's make a list. Then I will PM the organizer my contact! smile.gif
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gua anytime before CNY. rclxm9.gif
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Is the gathering still on?

Who's going? Let's make a list. Then I will PM the organizer my contact! smile.gif
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i fly back on 30th.

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30th I got gathering with friends

I'll arrived M'sia this Thursday.

Tent. set it on - 31st Jan 2011? 7PM?

1. Lawrence
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Can tumpang buy something fr ur site before u come back here ? rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 25 2011, 10:25 PM)
30th I got gathering with friends

I'll arrived M'sia this Thursday.

Tent. set it on - 31st Jan 2011? 7PM?

1. Lawrence
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31st shouldn't be a problem, I'm in.

ed1torz : Did "Mair" from SARA emailed you the info? Be sure to post up here as well ok? Thank you.

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31st shouldn't be a problem, I'm in. 

ed1torz : Did "Mair" from SARA emailed you the info?  Be sure to post up here as well ok?  Thank you.
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31st Jan 2011 at 7pm?
Venue: Paparich Setia Alam??? or mamak store tepi jalan? rclxms.gif
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Open to suggestion still on items below:-

Date: 31st Jan 2011
Time: 7PM till wheeee hours
Venue: Paparich Setia Alam

1. Lawrence
2. Pooh88
3. celicacultus
4. ken7908
5. fuego (You better come! Mr Organizer tongue.gif)


Apa mau beli? Sini desert takde benda..haha..
The Mair FFK me. No Info.
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 26 2011, 11:37 AM)
Open to suggestion still on items below:-

Date: 31st Jan 2011
Time: 7PM till wheeee hours
Venue: Paparich Setia Alam

1. Lawrence
2. Pooh88
3. celicacultus
4. ken7908
5. fuego (You better come! Mr Organizer tongue.gif)
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haha... u must be kidding... i m 'keh leh feh' onli, how come jadi organizer pula sweat.gif

31st pm should not be prob, I m in.

correction:

Date: 31st Jan 2011
Time: 7PM till wheeee hours
Venue: Paparich Setia Alam

1. Lawrence (Mr Organizer) whistling.gif
2. Pooh88
3. celicacultus
4. ken7908
5. fuego

where is tai lou bro edlim?

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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 26 2011, 12:27 PM)
haha... u must be kidding... i m 'keh leh feh' onli, how come jadi organizer pula sweat.gif

31st pm should not be prob, I m in.

correction:

Date: 31st Jan 2011
Time: 7PM till wheeee hours
Venue: Paparich Setia Alam

1. Lawrence (Mr Organizer) whistling.gif
2. Pooh88
3. celicacultus
4. ken7908
5. fuego

where is tai lou bro edlim?
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itu org org klang takda attend, mau kena hentam punggung.

lawrence, beli itu tiup asap punye la....malaysia now one blow is RM10++. hahhaa.... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 26 2011, 01:45 PM)
itu org org klang takda attend, mau kena hentam punggung.

lawrence, beli itu tiup asap punye la....malaysia now one blow is RM10++. hahhaa.... vmad.gif
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This gathering is for? Property talk? BBR info share?
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This gathering is for? Property talk? BBR info share?
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more likely BBR info sharing. mostly buyer of fuego/paloma i think.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 26 2011, 01:55 PM)
more likely BBR info sharing. mostly buyer of fuego/paloma i think....  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Like that I dun qualify coz I bought Avani only recently tongue.gif
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QUOTE(simonhoh @ Jan 26 2011, 01:12 PM)
Like that I dun qualify coz I bought Avani only recently tongue.gif
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hi guys, didn't know that BBR is so hotzzz here also besides SARA!
boleh join you BBR kaki or not for minum/makan session? by the way, where is the venue?
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qube:lookup thread. to save your time PAPARICH @ Setia Alam. Your nest smile.gif
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Any bro draft the letter for prev issues need to bring up to SD?

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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 26 2011, 03:10 PM)
qube:lookup thread. to save your time PAPARICH @ Setia Alam. Your nest smile.gif
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Bro,

I bought a hse BBR 6 years ago. sweat.gif
Mean i also not qualified to join is it !! shakehead.gif

QUOTE(simonhoh @ Jan 26 2011, 01:12 PM)
Like that I dun qualify coz I bought Avani only recently tongue.gif
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Bro,

I bought a hse BBR 6 years ago. sweat.gif
Mean i also not qualified to join is it !!  shakehead.gif
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No limitation mah, mari share share cirita about BBR la. Paiseh la, i mentioned the wrong thingy for fuego/paloma....seems so many sifus here are BBR house owner....marilah mari......
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so surprise to see so many BBR buyers so active here.....good good good....unfortunately i cant make it on 31st, if not can go there sit sit chat chat.....btw, wat is the purpose of this gathering? any special issue to discuss/comment?
Most of you are fuego or paloma buyers?

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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 26 2011, 12:27 PM)
haha... u must be kidding... i m 'keh leh feh' onli, how come jadi organizer pula sweat.gif

31st pm should not be prob, I m in.

correction:

Date: 31st Jan 2011
Time: 7PM till wheeee hours
Venue: Paparich Setia Alam

1. Lawrence (Mr Organizer) whistling.gif
2. Pooh88
3. celicacultus
4. ken7908
5. fuego

where is tai lou bro edlim?
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alamak sei lor... kena table...
been kinda bz coz of cny juz right the corner...

31st kah bro? Mon wor... very high possibility cant make it...
btw, tis meeting is juz to meet up - brain storm session rite?
or tis gonna be finalizing one? can set another day as finalizing meeting boh?
aft CNY - preferably Sat/Sun ok boh?
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lawrance belanja makan?
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company schedule changed, I will fly back on 29th morning, for me, anytime from 29th noon onward rclxms.gif
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So the meet up is confirm ?? hmm.gif
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who belanja ?
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The taukeh belanja must be the 1 who's earn more than 10K of salary whistling.gif

quote=JamesPond,Jan 28 2011, 11:26 AM]
who belanja ?
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any Fuego corner lot buyer here?

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QUOTE(pooh88 @ Jan 28 2011, 12:09 PM)
The taukeh belanja must be the 1 who's earn more than 10K of salary  whistling.gif
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hahaha... not qualify sweat.gif

QUOTE(1world1dream @ Jan 28 2011, 12:14 PM)
any Fuego corner lot buyer here?
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confirmed tat corner lot fella muz b earning 5 digits per mth... smile.gif
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Sorry for being MIA. Just reached my motherhomeland. I'm just helping fuego to organize this.

Thought can share what's 'happening in BBR'.

No, I don't earn more than 10k and no again, I don't "Belanja" kakakakakaka

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me oso not qualify...
i think ufo belnaja
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Damn work at seberang ppl must bring back some wealth to give to local ppl here mah whistling.gif
Need some support fr u sweat.gif

QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 28 2011, 07:12 PM)
Sorry for being MIA. Just reached my motherhomeland. I'm just helping fuego to organize this.

Thought can share what's 'happening in BBR'.

No, I don't earn more than 10k and no again, I don't "Belanja" kakakakakaka
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hahaha... not qualify  sweat.gif
confirmed tat corner lot fella muz b earning 5 digits per mth... smile.gif
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mostly are investors....so for them just small matter...wink.gif

any Fuego phase 1 buyers here?
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boys and girls, i've to attend dentist for that day.

any chance we change the date/time again. sorry for the last min call!
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So the gathering confirm bo!! hmm.gif
I want to meet up with u see i can get some kang tow bo brows.gif
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Any possibility or chances to re-schedule it?

Or I can come around 9PM...after extraction of tooth smile.gif ehehehe..but I can't drink or eat la...~
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Any possibility or chances to re-schedule it?

Or I can come around 9PM...after extraction of tooth smile.gif ehehehe..but I can't drink or eat la...~
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tomolo gathering still on? or change to other date?
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the gathering is tomorrow?
tomorrow is monday wor?
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the gathering is tomorrow?
tomorrow is monday wor?
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halo...sudah takda news pulak? ?? icon_question.gif
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Knnnnn............. mad.gif
U all cakap tak serupa pikin wan!! bruce.gif
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Mr. Fuego (Organizer) ..I think please proceed with the schedule teh tarik session.

I will join after dental. Please confirm!

I will be there around 8-9 PM. But I don't think I can talk LOLLLLLLLLLLL
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 31 2011, 12:21 PM)
Mr. Fuego (Organizer) ..I think please proceed with the schedule teh tarik session.

I will join after dental. Please confirm!

I will be there around 8-9 PM. But I don't think I can talk LOLLLLLLLLLLL
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hahhaha, so korlien and jialat....gigi takda tapi mau show face! cry.gif

i am available anyhow la....how would we know who is who? takkan pakai rose taruh name tag?
PM the loop whom is confirming attending the mobile numbers la?? hmm.gif
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Location mana? doh.gif

QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 31 2011, 12:24 PM)
hahhaha, so korlien and jialat....gigi takda tapi mau show face!  cry.gif

i am available anyhow la....how would we know who is who? takkan pakai rose taruh name tag?
PM the loop whom is confirming attending the mobile numbers la??  hmm.gif
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This year the BBR buyer Feugo & Paloma siapa ada open hse tis year? rclxms.gif
I wan to come get ang pow from u all thumbup.gif
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told u not to believe that snake. haha...
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FUEGO, please come in and confirm..

I will come definitely matter of time..

Everyone PM fuego your Contact Num.

Later we can know where to sit and such! DONE!
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Hi guys, just in case, the organizer no show...

I have printed Fuego catalog cover with SD logo and stick it on my laptop.

Come join me, as I smoke, most probably sitting outside. leaving office soon, will be there before 7pm.

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thanks celica for the headup!
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guys, any updates?
when will ur 2nd meeting be held?
i will join tis time... smile.gif
if need anythg, do PM (we can xchg HP no. offline)...
i thk since its holiday mood...
we can draft and prolly sned in the letter... by err...
target mid-end of Feb?

Bro Celica,
DAMN that was a very good idea... smile.gif

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post Jan 31 2011, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 31 2011, 10:52 PM)
guys, any updates?
when will ur 2nd meeting be held?
i will join tis time... smile.gif
if need anythg, do PM (we can xchg HP no. offline)...
i thk since its holiday mood...
we can draft and prolly sned in the letter... by err...
target mid-end of Feb?

Bro Celica,
DAMN that was a very good idea... smile.gif
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Tonite only 2guys appear, sienzzzz.
Mana itu semua org sudah pigi? Main-main kah? Haha

pooh88
post Jan 31 2011, 11:42 PM

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Solly la i got something urgent to settled leh. sweat.gif
I promise to u join u guys next round. whistling.gif
Thousand apologies whistling.gif
1world1dream
post Feb 1 2011, 12:55 AM

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How's the gathering just now? can share something here?
when is the next gathering? Hope I can join u guys...wink.gif or probably tonight?
Because of our future staying place, this kind of gathering is very much important...we can form a housing committee beforehand...wink.gif

ed1torz
post Feb 1 2011, 01:26 AM

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I had appointment for fixing braces and due to the limited time...I can only managed to secure 31st Jan for my first tooth extraction...

After extraction, mouth numb and don't feel like going already. Haha..

My 2nd extraction will be on 11th Feb and fixing on 14th..

I'm telling you this to tell you that I'm not main2 type and I've my reason not coming

Please forgive my FFK this time.
fuego
post Feb 1 2011, 07:38 AM

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sorry guys and girls coz not appear on yesterday gathering.
i do ask confirmation on 29 about the gathering still on or change date, but until yesterday 12 noon still not getting any answer and some replies 'feel' not on, before my friends call. So go out makan makan sama sama and go their house drink, chui sui and gamble until now. just coming back login and saw the msg.
sorry again.
how is the meet up yestrday?
when will be the 2nd gathering? think we should PM our contact each other, to avoid lost contact by LYN.
p/s: i m not organizer, m keh leh feh... haha
ken7908
post Feb 1 2011, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(fuego @ Feb 1 2011, 07:38 AM)
sorry guys and girls coz not appear on yesterday gathering.
i do ask confirmation on 29 about the gathering still on or change date, but until yesterday 12 noon still not getting any answer and some replies 'feel' not on, before my friends call. So go out makan makan sama sama and go their house drink, chui sui and gamble until now. just coming back login and saw the msg.
sorry again.
how is the meet up yestrday?
when will be the 2nd gathering? think we should PM our contact each other, to avoid lost contact by LYN.
p/s: i m not organizer, m keh leh feh... haha
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yesterday meeting is between 2guys, talking about everything except Fuego/Paloma - coz dunno what to talk with only 2fella dingdingdongdong vmad.gif

poor bro celica waited there at least an hour alone, and then me arrived 730pm. Blow water till close to 11pm, still no one turn up doh.gif

next meeting takda firm up, just consider takda la. shakehead.gif

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