10% real, 90% speculation. Do you not read how some are trying to go round the rules to borrow >90% for multiple props?

It started with popular and good demand areas like Mutiara and Kinrara. When the gorenging pushed prices in these places too high, the gorengers went to secondary places like Cyberjaya, Shah Alam and Klang. Some even went to Penang, JB and even Ipoh. Next, we will see the same thing in remote parts of Kajang, Rawang and Port Klang - if it doesn't crash that soon, that is. Dead fish now comes back to life, suddenly lousy areas all look very good hor...

If one had invested in 2009, quite safe. Now is a risky time. Then again, it may take a long time for any bubble to burst, e.g. Ireland had a 16 year prop boom until it collapsed last year.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Nov 25 2010, 02:37 PM

Dun worry so much...

A house in lower demand areas may be priced at 400K due to speculative forces, but good chance you can rent it for RM400 a month in the end.

afaik, paloma phase1 early bird price was 488k. phase2 starting 517k.
if a re-released unit is from ph1, then increase to 565k is 77k or 16%. <9m, same house.
one can either see this as creating paper gain for early buyers or pure dev greed.
has anything changed, seen good things coming to the area in the last 9 months?

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jan 6 2011, 02:59 PM

yr concerns are valid. 600k is a lot of money!

when you buy a house at 300k and easily sell it for 400k, it's not bad whether it's a nice place to stay or not.
when you buy a house at 600k and find it hard to sell at 650k, it becomes nightmare when it doesn't become yr dream home.

5 yrs ago, 600k almost guarantees you a good house in a proven location. now, 600k also so many ????

this layout will not appeal to many but is not uncommon... think many putraheight houses are like that. maybe sime just take out old design?

. entrance with a void - not necessary for a 22' wide house
. living-dining area will appear narrow due to void in front and bedroom in the middle
. stairs at back... hmm... linen area eats up good space, why not use the yard space at the back?

this layout not space efficient for 22x75. dev saving on material cost?


btw, what is builtup sqft, sqm?

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jan 11 2011, 06:19 PM

approx, how many units total for this 22x75 avani?

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jan 14 2011, 10:14 AM

valid question...

check the specs, maybe lower - usual things are tiles, single or 3phase wiring, sanitary wares, other costs like agreements/stamp duty incl or not.
how close to main road, traffic flow, potential noise and air pollution are also factors.

faster incr in rmpsf in one place mean more aggressive dev.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jan 17 2011, 06:28 AM

this is correct. if not designated and sold as gng be dev, very hard to change. with new rules, almost impossible.

another way to look at it - some buyers buy becos not gng, dunwan and no need to pay any sec/maint fees.

you actually have all the factors to consider, a matter of what you put more weight.

in addiiton to those factors you oledi know, considering these too:
. how soon you need the house? 6m or 2 yrs time?
. which direction u travel more - meru/klang side of nkve side?

tough decision, u only get to make once!

lidat, good for bbr meh? stuck worse at meru side if trying to go nkve way.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jan 19 2011, 08:55 AM

the guys on setia side can also do the same - meru will be all jammed up same same!!

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Added on January 19, 2011, 9:18 am
if thinking to buy to goreng or rent, forget it.
if buying for own stay, ok wan. just dun expect 10% up every year.
freehold houses are more in demand than highrise.
ge impact maybe high price projects. common houses will be fine for long term.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jan 19 2011, 09:19 AM

korek korek... no trafiic jam means nobody goes there, nobody buy, price cheap, people not happy.

actuali, jelutong-denai alam side now also very jialat... long q in the morning trying to get onto nkve. thousands of houses coming up too. nkve traffic will be lessened when they start eltina east and the road ->kota d road. dunno when - ini sime baby big projek.

no offence intended.... but makes u think if really, really, people are buying houses to live or trade.

if bbr now experience this, is same happening in bukit tinggi, bandar botanic, bandar puteri klang?

if accept both locations, only logical to buy fuego if still available.
however, life is never such.
it will invariably come down to what you value more - access, where you frequent most, schools, neighborhood, demographics, etc.
because these are the key considerations when buying a home in the first place!

this part also quite true.
maybe not cheap cheap but there are good subsale buys everywhere, just need to put in more time and effort.

thing is young people like new things...
not saying old folks don't!

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jan 23 2011, 03:15 PM

plenty like anywhere else:
http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...99&lo=&wp=&ns=1
older ones with small build much lower priced.
newer ones like levena... think up >30% from original - better buy new!

bbr not spared from goringers lo... matter of how long and how high it go.

if toking abt the cleared land fronting jn meru, editor is rite.
go look closer - signboard "kilang perdana" or sumting like dat.

goringirs? relax - semua tempat ada la. question is 50% or 90%.

will be impossible to find any dev with <50% fryers buying today. dev n staff dgn discount tahu jugak.

the issue of a home far or near is a useless one for discussion.
because it is all about where you frequent and what you and yr family members do everyday.
if someone tells me he live in klcc, i'll say it's dem far and troublesome, won't visit him forever.

house prices in some areas may not rise much in the coming years, but most unlikely they will drop. even less unlikely devs will price same houses in the same place at lower prices - they will just stop building. maybe we'll see tiny houses like 16x60 , highrise pigeonholes that might appear to be cheap.

we all would like to see prices come down or stabilise, but that's almost like hoping petrol prices and fish prices will come down. tough times ahead...

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Feb 20 2011, 10:15 PM