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Investment SETAPAK GREEN RESIDENCES by UOA, Your Enclave for Refresh Living

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post Oct 2 2010, 05:07 PM, updated 15y ago

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Introduction

I am hereby compiling a summary for all the discussion contributed by all the forummers on this thread in order to provide everyone, a glance to the UOA, exclusive Setapak Green project. (it'll be known as SG/SGR)

Disclaimer Note: I'm not UOA or SagaHarta's staff trying to promote anything here. Neither do I condemning anything here, I just compiled the summary for everyone's reading pleasure. I do not own any of the information below. Please do not quote me should there's anything wrong, neither does any copyright infringement.


The Developer

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SagaHarta Sdn. Bhd is 100% owned by UOA Group. It's the sole developer that responsible for Setapak Green Project. UOA Group is a leading property group in Malaysia. Founded and listed on the Australian Stock Exchange (ASX) in 1987, UOA has focused on property development, construction, property investment, and property management. Since 1989, the Group has based its headquarters and business operations in Kuala Lumpur, capital state of Malaysia. As at 31 December 2009 :- The Group has successfully completed and delivered projects comprising commercial, retail and residential properties with GDV (Gross Development Value) in excess of an estimated RM 3.0 billion. For more information, see their complete group profile - here

Project Preview

On, October 08, 2010 and October 09, 2010 - Pre-screening of the project open to UOA members with only selected floors open for prebook.
On, October 10, 2010 and October 11, 2010 – Pre-Screening of the project open to the public with most of the floors open for prebook.

Location:

1) Sales Gallery

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Property Gallery - The Village
No.2, Bangsar South, Jalan 1/112H,
Off Jalan Kerinchi, 59200 Kuala Lumpur.
Tel: (603) 2282 9993
Fax: (603) 2282 8590

2) Site Office

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Master Title
GM354 Lot 333,
GM 419 Lot 334,
GM420 Lot 337,
Mukim Setapak,
53000 Kuala Lumpur

Project Details

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The project is schedule to launch somewhere between the time frame of December 2010 to February 2011, due to the pending approval of AP (Advertising Permit).

Price range : Between RM400-600k with DIBS (Developer Interest Bearing Scheme)
Sqft : Between 1362-1588 sqft
Total Unit : 445
Units/Floor : 18 units
Units/Wing : 9 units
Genting View : Lot Unit 1 - 9
KLCC View : Lot Unit 10 - 18

Type A : 1423 (maybe 1480 sqft) detached corner
Type B : 1362 sqft semi detached intermediate
Type C : 1588 sqft semi detached intermediate
Type D : 1530 sqft semi detached corner

All units comes/enjoy/entitle for/with items, finishing & status below

1) 2 X Car parks
2) 4 Bed Rooms
3) 3 Bath Rooms
3) A/C Ventilation Corner
4) 6 units of lifts
5) Residential Title
6) FREEHOLD
7) Roof Top Garden on top of parking plaza
8) 7 Floors of Parking plaza
9) Swimming Pool
10) Playground
11) Gymnasium
12) Foot Reflexology Path
13) To be filled up

SG is on a 4.5 acres land with one block of condo.

9 units KL facing view and another 9 units Genting view. One corner unit (Type A, unit 9) of the Genting view is directly facing the pool with the second unit slightly adjacent to it. The Genting view is priced slightly lower.

For 8th floor, KLCC facing view, price should be around 330 psf + or - a little, after discount. All units come with 2 car parks. SG has a density of 445 units over 4.5 acres of residential land. With a single block of 18 units per floor serve by 6 lifts it comes either with a "Semi D" or "Bungalow" design. Because of the 4.5 acres, SG facilities are quite spread out. The swimming pool is on the ground, we'll look at the layout in further details below

There are no actual specifications of SG yet. If SG is using Bangsarsouth Park Residence specs then it should have at least the following:

1. Pre install aircon piping, plenty of light points, 3 phase electricity, Water Heater points for toilets and kitchen
2. All toilets comes with vanity top (I think nicer that the ones shown in 288), Tempered glass shower screens, Mixer, Shower Rose, Stainless Kitchen Basins and Mixers (not install to cater for reno)

Bangsarsouth Park Residence comes with 12 ft ceiling clearance.

SG is still improving their design & layout so will see their outcome before December 2010. One nice point about SG is the L shape balcony (only Type A & Type D)

SG had done some adjustment to the price due to resizing of some units which is now slightly bigger. Not sure if this was an error on Friday (08 October 2010), due to some change of plans.


Irrevocable offer to purchase (Pre-booking)


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Members and the public were given the options of pre-booking (lets use pre-booking as the more common terms), with a Rm10,000 of payment through stake holder – Joseph Ting & Co. The Irrevocable offer to purchase are directed to Sagaharta Sdn Bhd.

Just check the 2006 UOA Ltd Annual Report, Sagaharta Sdn Bhd is 100% owned by UOA development berhad. #216

My understanding is that it is our offer to UOA thru the lawyer at the purchase price indicated in the said letter. UOA should only accept our offer purchase price as stated. If UOA wanted to raise the price/sq ft, that mean they are not accepting our offer price, but instead UOA is counter-offer us at revised price. In this case, we have to right not to accept. #221

Members were given an 8% early bird discount on the first day (October 08, 2010)
Members & public were given a 7% early bird discount effective the second day of preview. (October 09, 2010).

Encouragement Opinions Shared by Forummers

The KLCC view is really very nice. Even when standing on the ground. Nothing blocks. Imagine you are a few level on top.

Another point i get UOA is bcoz as the propose drawing they have 2 entrance 1 in diamond square 1 @ Jln Bunga Tanjung.

So far in setapak area, there is no luxury project yet (pardon my lack of knowledge if there's any), so its really not apple to apple comparison, Setapak is currently under major development, new road to curb traffic jam, shopping complex at platinum there, this may the start of 300++sf property for setapak. Also, setapak is so used to be a student township (TAR), let not forget, most graduate continue to stay in setapak area after joining the work force, hence, + in spending power, + development.

Discouragement Opinions Shared by Forummers

UOA is very conservative in their design. Practical interior but outdated exterior facade.

No brochure given at the moment. Details are subject to change. This includes the design of the building, the unit size and price. Everything is tentative, no approvals from the relevant authorities yet with regards to project design etc. Picture given looks like the same building as Bangsar South project, which will look so outdated

SA lacks a lot of information and being non committal is common under such circumstances other than reading from the sales kit. The specs in the sales kit is very generic from the finishing to light switches and everything else.

In terms of view, not all units have the best. The 1st floor for SG is actually the 1st floor (above the facilities floor on ground), and carpark is another complex. This carpark will block the lower floor units if they are facing that direction. Same thing goes for units facing Diamond Sq which will block units up to about 8 floor. However, this is reflected lower prices in view of this compromise.

Panel Bank

1)AmBank
2)Maybank
3)CIMB
4)UOB
5)RHB

Contact

For Enquiries
UOACare Line
Toll Free: 1-300-88-6668
Fax: (603) 2245 9198
Email Contact: uoacare@uoa.com.my

Rough Sketch of Forumer's Knowledge Towards the Layouts and View of SG

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Legends

1) Red Rectangle Box = 4 Bungalows adjacent to SG (adjacent to Jln Gombak & with address of Jln Bunga Tanjung)
2) Yellow Rectangle Box = Parking Plaza & Roof Top Garden
3) Pink Rectangle Box = Jln Bunga Tanjung Entrance/Exit to SG (2nd entrance/exit, subject to local authority approval)
4) Green Rectangle Box = Squatters unit (so called Bungalows as well), after monsoon drain and UOA fencing
5) White Rectangle Box = Playground & swimming pool
6) Blue Rectangle Box = Shop Lots

Picture 1: Red Rectangle Box
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Picture 2: Pink Rectangle Box
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Picture 3: Green Rectangle Box
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Picture 4: Blue Rectangle Box
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Parking Plan
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Purchasers

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ksyap01 - Own stay
LA03 - Own stay
SmallPotato2011 - Own stay
iceving - Own stay
jackoz - Own stay
Jacky^^ - Own stay
doink12 - Own stay
Lewing - Own stay~

cybertechmkteo's RELATIVE - Not sure
SG hardcore - Flip

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post Oct 3 2010, 01:44 PM

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no smaller unit??? thought buying one..but seems not my range d..
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post Oct 4 2010, 11:00 PM

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leasehold or freehold?
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post Oct 4 2010, 11:42 PM

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havent finalize.. but the price rm400k -rm600k in setapak area...errmm... a bit of overprice.
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post Oct 5 2010, 12:07 AM

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crazy... go see PV8 still alot sellers... price around 400K no takers. Price nw really overpriced...

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post Oct 5 2010, 03:54 PM

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freehold with residential title if not mistaken.

so far diamond regency, diamond residence and 222 are all commercial if not mistaken.

ya agree wif cutealex.. 4-600k is kinda overprice.
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post Oct 6 2010, 10:31 PM

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when is this launching?
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post Oct 7 2010, 02:44 AM

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Tis weekend
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post Oct 7 2010, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 7 2010, 02:44 AM)
Tis weekend
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hi, where is the sales office?
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post Oct 7 2010, 08:55 PM

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yup, anyone know where's d sales office?

or any contact number?

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post Oct 8 2010, 06:19 PM

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i think almost sold out leow
just now this morning i went @ 930 almost half gone dee..

as for where
u know bangsar south?


Added on October 8, 2010, 7:10 pmbangsar south there the UOA property gallery

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post Oct 8 2010, 07:17 PM

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what is the price range? any promotion?
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post Oct 8 2010, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 8 2010, 06:19 PM)
i think almost sold out leow
just now this morning i went @ 930 almost half gone dee..

as for where
u know bangsar south?


Added on October 8, 2010, 7:10 pmbangsar south there the UOA property gallery
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I just called their hotline this morning and they said this sunday only launch? I also asked about the promotion n their answer is will be reveal this sunday. Nw u say almost sold out?
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:28 PM

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bcoz today is for UOA member day. sunday onwards is official launch

for UOA member is 8% discount.

10-11 Oct discount maybe lesser.

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 8 2010, 11:28 PM)
bcoz today is for UOA member day. today and tmr is official launch

for UOA member is 8% discount.

10-11 Oct discount maybe lesser.
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omg.... means saturday also member day also lo? If non-member go can buy or not 1??
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:37 PM

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ok . thanks dude...
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u getting urself 1 @ sunday?
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:57 PM

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response was very good during the preview launch for members today. Good units are snapped up very fast. Starting price very competitive.
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post Oct 9 2010, 12:12 AM

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webby u get urself 1?
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post Oct 9 2010, 12:16 AM

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My friend bought one. I was just a busy body.
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post Oct 9 2010, 05:24 PM

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LOL wat unit tongue.gif
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post Oct 9 2010, 09:11 PM

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He doesn't want me to quote for now. So I respect his privacy. Did you buy one yourself? Heard today the response was very good. Tomorrow will be open to public I guess.
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post Oct 9 2010, 09:59 PM

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I went to site. the KLCC view is really very nice. even when standing on the ground. nothing block. imagine u r a few level on top. very nice view. too bad.... too expensive for me. lower klcc view all taken.
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the total price is high due to the larger built up above 1300sf. Based on per sq ft basis, I think the prices is not bad.
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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:23 PM)
the total price is high due to the larger built up above 1300sf.  Based on per sq ft basis, I think the prices is not bad.
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rite. the price psf is about RM300. PV quality cant compare wit UOA punya product. Setapak Green can only compare wit 222 and 288. But 222 now selling rm380K for 20+ floor! for a unit of 1100sqft.... i wonder how many car park 288 provide. FYI SG proved 2 carpark for each unit.
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SG is on a 4.5 acres land with one block of condo whereas 222 and 288 service residence is on a smaller commercial plot land thus higher density. Developer wise, UOA is much more reputable. I think both provide DIBS.
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yes both provide DIBS.

Yes even 1st floor already can c KLCC but not the entire KL lol..

if u r on level 10 and above can c KL la i guess LOL

i know where is 222 but wat about 288?
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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:33 PM)
SG is on a 4.5 acres land with one block of condo whereas 222 and 288 service residence is on a smaller commercial plot land thus higher density. Developer wise, UOA is much more reputable.  I think both provide DIBS.
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222 and 288 is built on 1.85 acres of land.
and its an odd shaped land


Added on October 10, 2010, 12:53 am
QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 10 2010, 12:23 AM)
yes both provide DIBS.

Yes even 1st floor already can c KLCC but not the entire KL lol..

if u r on level 10 and above can c KL la i guess LOL

i know where is 222 but wat about 288?
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222 and 288 is on the same plot of land

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222 and 288 all fully sold leow?

by the way today i go and check on SG.
the price compare with yesterday has been increased :S
not sure tmr how :S
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I was told that SG had done some adjustment to the price due to resizing of some units which is now slightly bigger. Not sure if this was an error on Friday which UOA found out or due to some change of plans. As such some adjustment on the total unit pricing. Whether psf the prices have gone up, I don't really know.
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how many total units for Setapak Green? 4.5 acres land is quite a large land size with if it's just one block.
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QUOTE(john@ @ Oct 10 2010, 09:37 AM)
how many total units for Setapak Green? 4.5 acres land is quite a large land size with if it's just one block.
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As they told is 445 units. with a roof top garden. 222 and 288 dun have any garden. juz 1 block of building on the small piece of land. and indoor swimming pool. me myself i like the garden thing. Can relax after working in KL.
so any update in the sales cybertechmkteo? hows the crowd?
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QUOTE(penn @ Oct 9 2010, 10:29 PM)
rite. the price psf is about RM300. PV quality cant compare wit UOA punya product. Setapak Green can only compare wit 222 and 288. But 222 now selling rm380K for 20+ floor! for a unit of 1100sqft.... i wonder how many car park 288 provide. FYI SG proved 2 carpark for each unit.
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Hi Penn,
I would like to know why you mentioned that SG's quality can't be compared with PV. Meaning PV is higher or lower than UOA?
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Hi Penn,
I would like to know why you mentioned that SG's quality can't be compared with PV. Meaning PV is higher or lower than UOA?
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UOA quality is higher.
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any one know hows the sale today? what is the price range?
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QUOTE(penn @ Oct 10 2010, 10:54 AM)
As they told is 445 units. with a roof top garden. 222 and 288 dun have any garden. juz 1 block of building on the small piece of land. and indoor swimming pool. me myself i like the garden thing.  Can relax after working in KL.
so any update in the sales cybertechmkteo? hows the crowd?
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not sure about setapak green. but 222 and 288 build with landscaped garden and other build in facility. may refer their latest website http://www.kpproperty.com.my


Added on October 10, 2010, 2:05 pm
QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 10 2010, 07:24 AM)
I was told that SG had done some adjustment to the price due to resizing of some units which is now slightly bigger.  Not sure if this was an error on Friday which UOA found out or due to some change of plans.  As such some adjustment on the total unit pricing.  Whether psf the prices have gone up, I don't really know.
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friday is only open for uoa member? so 9th and 10th selling with wat price? anyone can share?

if below 330psft then i would say is a good buy though not sure about the material quality. but uoa should be ok?


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QUOTE(penn @ Oct 10 2010, 12:35 PM)
UOA quality is higher.
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even better than pv8? is setapak green comparable with 222 and 288 interms of material quality? if yes, then its a good buy.


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how many total units for Setapak Green? 4.5 acres land is quite a large land size with if it's just one block.
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222 residency: 1.85 acres, 1 block, 222 units, 3 lifts, indoor facilities ---> 4 units share one lift for same floor or 74 units share one lift for whole block

288 residency: 2.0+ acres(cant remember exact figure), 1 block, 288 units, indoor facilities ---> 4 units share one lift for same floor or 96 units share one lift for whole block

setapak green: 4.5 acres, ? block, 445 units, ? lifts, indoor or outdoor facilities? setapak green purchaser please help to update.

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QUOTE(penn @ Oct 10 2010, 10:54 AM)
As they told is 445 units. with a roof top garden. 222 and 288 dun have any garden. juz 1 block of building on the small piece of land. and indoor swimming pool. me myself i like the garden thing.  Can relax after working in KL.
so any update in the sales cybertechmkteo? hows the crowd?
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roof top garden? with such big land, why not garden on the land beside swimming pool which is better as for me...hehe...
about the indoor swimming pool in 222/288, for me i think it's a very good thing as well, bcos can swim regardless of weather. Important thing is their indoor swimming pool is really suitable to swim, not like those that good to see only.

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QUOTE(john@ @ Oct 10 2010, 08:06 PM)
roof top garden? with such big land, why not garden on the land beside swimming pool which is better as for me...hehe...
about the indoor swimming pool in 222/288, for me i think it's a very good thing as well, bcos can swim regardless of weather. Important thing is their indoor swimming pool is really suitable to swim, not like those that good to see only.
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yea...i heard earlier time that uoa going to copy 222 concept to have indoor facility. but dun know is true or not?
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QUOTE(mature @ Oct 10 2010, 01:51 PM)
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not sure about setapak green. but 222 and 288 build with landscaped garden and other build in facility. may refer their latest website http://www.kpproperty.com.my


Added on October 10, 2010, 2:05 pm

friday is only open for uoa member? so 9th and 10th selling with wat price? anyone can share?

if below 330psft then i would say is a good buy though not sure about the material quality. but uoa should be ok?


Added on October 10, 2010, 2:08 pm

even better than pv8? is setapak green comparable with 222 and 288 interms of material quality? if yes, then its a good buy.


Added on October 10, 2010, 4:38 pm

222 residency: 1.85 acres, 1 block, 222 units, 3 lifts, indoor facilities ---> 4 units share one lift for same floor or 74 units share one lift for whole block

288 residency: 2.0+ acres(cant remember exact figure), 1 block, 288 units, indoor facilities ---> 4 units share one lift for same floor or 96 units share one lift for whole block

setapak green: 4.5 acres, ? block, 445 units, ? lifts, indoor or outdoor facilities? setapak green purchaser please help to update.
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eh 222 and 228 different de ah? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif alamak conpius rclxub.gif rclxub.gif hhahaha
SG = 1 block, 6 floors swimming pool and landscape all outdoor.

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Drop by the sales office this afternoon. UOA is having a preview and option for booking with rm10K issued to the stakeholder. S&P is expected to be executed in Jan 2011 as design is still being finalised. For 222/288, it is a sales launch.

Most levels are open for booking except for a few. Almost all KLCC and swimming pool facing units were booked. That translates to about 50% bookings of the available units as of 2.00pm today.

For 8th floor, KLCC facing view, price should be around 330 psf + or - a little, after discount. All units come with 2 car parks versus 222/288 only one.

SG has a density of 445 units over 4.5 acres of residential land. With a single block of 16 units per floor serve by 6 lifts it comes either with a "Semi D" or "Bungalow" design. 222/288 is on commercial land and not sure of their total land size and how many lifts per block.

Because of the 4.5 acres, SG facilities are quite spread out. The swimming pool is on the ground compared to 222/288 is above the carpark level thus indoor to save space.

The SG carpark is a separately built 6 floor complex with a roof top garden and a connecting bridge to the condo block. Quite nice in terms of open spaces and gardens, hopefully with proper landscaping and maintenance. Overall, 222/288 is quite a compact design with all facilities contain within a building similar to the one found mainly in KL city where land-bank is very expensive.

However, the design of 222/288 seem more modern compared to SG which looks like bangsarsouth park residence copy and paste facade. Hopefully that will improve a little as their design is still being tweaked. 222/288 have an impressive show unit whereas, SG has only poster on the wall and still subject to change on the design. Practicability of the design is alright. Finishing on paper seem very like park residence, bangsarsouth. 288 comes equipped with kitchen cabinet together with fridge, oven and burner/hood.

As to developer, UOA is a big organisation but not very sure of KP, developer of 222/288. Reliability and reputation of developer is an important factor. Can anyone familiar on KP or UOA please shed some light for consideration of potential buyers

A condo or service residence depends on long term maintenance. Which will be better maintained will be time tested. Which will fetch better sales or rental will surely depends on this important factor. Not sure if UOA or KP can perform better.

What can be seen here are 2 high end developments (at least based on price) in Setapak and the delivery of these 2 projects will test a new benchmark in the pricing for this area going forward. In terms of location, they are almost the same though many people familiar to this place, will say that SG is a tad better.

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 10 2010, 09:34 PM)
For 8th floor, KLCC facing view, price should be around 330 psf + or - a little, after discount. All units come with 2 car parks versus 222/288 only one. 
What's the price for non KLCC view then? like garden, swimming pool or Gombak view?

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I think it has 8 units KL facing view and another 8 units Genting view. One corner unit of the Genting view is directly facing the pool with the second unit slightly adjacent to it. The rest I would not call them swimming pool view. The Genting view is priced slightly lower though I am not sure how much exactly.
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anyone know is there any diffrent the price day by day? heard like the price is increasing..... sad.gif
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I don't think so. Though I will not be surprised that UOA may move the prices up along the way as they always do. Discount levels may also be lowered as commonly practice by most developers.
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Thanks for your update webby88! Why all take KLCC view? is tat so important? when comes to subsale, i think not much diff in price rite? so for investment, better take lower entry 1. which is gombak view i think.
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I guess it is your choice when comes to investment. If the premium for a good view is marginal I guess it is worth paying for.

I guess what is more important when investing in a reasonably high end development like SG or 288, the ability of the developer to deliver on the promises is important. After, good maintenance will make sure the prices are sustained.
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Drop by the sales office this afternoon. UOA is having a preview and option for booking with rm10K issued to the stakeholder.  S&P is expected to be executed in Jan 2011 as design is still being finalised. For 222/288, it is a sales launch. 

Most levels are open for booking except for a few.  Almost all KLCC and swimming pool facing units were booked.  That translates to about 50% bookings of the available units as of 2.00pm today.

For 8th floor, KLCC facing view, price should be around 330 psf + or - a little, after discount. All units come with 2 car parks versus 222/288 only one. 

SG has a density of 445 units over 4.5 acres of residential land.  With a single block of 16 units per floor serve by 6 lifts it comes either with a "Semi D" or "Bungalow" design.  222/288 is on commercial land and not sure of their total land size and how many lifts per block.

Because of the 4.5 acres, SG facilities are quite spread out.  The swimming pool is on the ground compared to 222/288 is above the carpark level thus indoor to save space. 

The SG carpark is a separately built 6 floor complex with a roof top garden and a connecting bridge to the condo block. Quite nice in terms of open spaces and gardens, hopefully with proper landscaping and maintenance. Overall, 222/288 is quite a compact design with all facilities contain within a building similar to the one found mainly in KL city where land-bank is  very expensive. 

However, the design of 222/288 seem more modern compared to SG which looks like bangsarsouth park residence copy and paste facade. Hopefully that will improve a little as their design is still being tweaked. 222/288 have an impressive show unit whereas, SG has only poster on the wall and still subject to change on the design.  Practicability of the design is alright.  Finishing on paper seem very like park residence, bangsarsouth. 288 comes equipped with kitchen cabinet together with fridge, oven and burner/hood.

As to developer, UOA is a big organisation but not very sure of KP, developer of 222/288.  Reliability and reputation of developer is an important factor. Can anyone familiar on KP or UOA please shed some light for consideration of potential buyers 

A condo or service residence depends on long term maintenance.  Which will be better maintained will be time tested.  Which will fetch better sales or rental will surely depends on this important factor. Not sure if UOA or KP can perform better.

What can be seen here are 2 high end developments (at least based on price) in Setapak and the delivery of these 2 projects will test a new benchmark in the pricing for this area going forward. In terms of location, they are almost the same though many people familiar to this place, will say that SG is a tad better.
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uoa selling 330 psqft...any freebies from setapak green? like kitchen cabinet/... i know 288 provide 40k freebies. if no freebies from setapak green, then the price is comparable with 288 liao, which selling 490k for 1400 sqft. then quality material is a comparable factor. anyne check on the quality provided by uoa? as good as kppropery provide?

anyway, 288 is residential land, not commercial land.

are you sure 288 provide 1 car park? i know 222 give 1 car park coz price is lower coz sft is smaller. if 288 only give 1 car park, then setapak green is cheaper interm of price (if material quality is comparable with 288).

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The unit is quite spacious and I think this area is mainly for families own stay..not suitable for rental..
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UOA project is the better bet compared to 222 and 288 in terms of location, price, reputation, maintenance, quality, promise, package, profitability for flippers.


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SG is on a 4.5 acres land with one block of condo whereas 222 and 288 service residence is on a smaller commercial plot land thus higher density. Developer wise, UOA is much more reputable.  I think both provide DIBS.
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hi, u sure UOA land size is 4.5 acre??

from the look of the land at setapak before launch, my estimation is only 3 to 3.5 acre.

if 4.5 acre maybe it include few wooden house at the end that have not been demolished.

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uoa selling 330 psqft...any freebies from setapak green? like kitchen cabinet/... i know 288 provide 40k freebies. if no freebies from setapak green, then the price is comparable with 288 liao, which selling 490k for 1400 sqft. then quality material is a comparable factor. anyne check on the quality provided by uoa? as good as kppropery provide?

anyway, 288 is residential land, not commercial land.

are you sure 288 provide 1 car park? i know 222 give 1 car park coz price is lower coz sft is smaller. if 288 only give 1 car park, then setapak green is cheaper interm of price (if material quality is comparable with 288).
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Not sure on the freebies for SG. Don't think there are any free kitchen cabinets. Quality of material is difficult to compare as SG do not have any show unit.

So 222 is on commercial land and 288 on residential when the tracts of land are side by side?

Can anyone confirm 288 comes with one or two carparks for the basis of comparison?


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UOA project is the better bet compared to 222 and 288 in terms of location, price, reputation, maintenance, quality, promise, package, profitability for flippers.


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hi, u sure UOA land size is 4.5 acre??

from the look of the land at setapak before launch, my estimation is only 3 to 3.5 acre.

if 4.5 acre maybe it include few wooden house at the end that have not been demolished.
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UOA in their letter of invitation mentioned 4.5 acres and will take it in good faith.

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i think is reali overpriced . Summore UOA group reali like tiger.400-600k i rather buy double storey.maybe location far bit but at least no need pay maintenance fees.
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I felt it is overpriced as well and so it 222/288. But there are many people who are still buying. I guess some people wants close proximity to KL and this would be amongst the cheaper ones without compromising luxury and style, hopefully.
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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 11 2010, 11:36 AM)
I felt it is overpriced as well and so it 222/288.  But there are many people who are still buying.  I guess some people wants close proximity to KL and this would be amongst the cheaper ones without compromising luxury and style, hopefully.
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Definataly overpriced. Same as Setapak Green (just opposit 288, new project by UOA,), overpriced too.
Wondering why both overprice at the same time, same location compare with condos at setapak/ gombak area.
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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 2 2010, 05:07 PM)
UOA Going to launch Setapak Green project near diamond residence & 222 residence @ diamond square...
Price range : agak agak RM400-600k
Sqft : agak agak 1300-1700 sqft

What say u?
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xpensive la..reali xpensive..pv oso not tat high..


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I felt it is overpriced as well and so it 222/288.  But there are many people who are still buying.  I guess some people wants close proximity to KL and this would be amongst the cheaper ones without compromising luxury and style, hopefully.
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u cn try search PV..i think nt tat xpensive..if i not mistaken 1400sq ft..ard 360k

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Definataly overpriced. Same as Setapak Green (just opposit 288, new project by UOA,), overpriced too.
Wondering why both overprice at the same time, same location compare with condos at setapak/ gombak area.
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Before 222 was launch, SG tentative price is very much lower but after the launching of 222 & thereafter 288, SG price went up even before launch to match the pricing of 222 & 288. So in a way, you may say that 222 & 288 cause the price of SG to shoot up wink.gif
BTW, from the look of it, most of KLCC view for 222/288 will be blocked by SG it seems.
KP Properties are 1st time developer so no reference for their OWN project yet but they're quite a good main contractor. FYI, being a good contractor & developer is totally different thing.

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sought after units r those facing klcc n the corner units (type 9, 1423 sf) with L-shaped balcony facing pool/diamond/222

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sought after units r those facing klcc n the corner units (type 9, 1423 sf) with L-shaped balcony facing pool/diamond/222

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Added on October 11, 2010, 4:37 pmanyone 1 know they still have 7% discount?

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222/288 view to KLCC does not block by Setapak Green. However, SG 's genting view is blocked by 222.

Try to check using google earth or google map.
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i not understand, y nowadays condo provide so few car parks? like 288, 1400++ sqf with 1 car park? they expect 1 guy live in that 1400sqf-3 rooms alone? or expect other tenants to walking to work?

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QUOTE(vreis @ Oct 11 2010, 12:09 PM)
Before 222 was launch, SG tentative price is very much lower but after the launching of 222 & thereafter 288, SG price went up even before launch to match the pricing of 222 & 288. So in a way, you may say that 222 & 288 cause the price of SG to shoot up wink.gif
BTW, from the look of it, most of KLCC view for 222/288 will be blocked by SG it seems.
KP Properties are 1st time developer so no reference for their OWN project yet but they're quite a good main contractor. FYI, being a good contractor & developer is totally different thing.
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Looks like UOA is following the pricing strategy of KP but the design of SG facade is very outdated compared to 288. How much SG design can be improved before the S&P is left to be seen. Hate to see people paying high price but getting an "ancient" design not matching any new condo standard.
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Looks like UOA is following the pricing strategy of KP but the design of SG facade is very outdated compared to 288.  How much SG design can be improved before the S&P is left to be seen.  Hate to see people paying high price but getting an "ancient" design not matching any new condo standard.
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i have to say myself very impress of 222 facade as well, seems like they even done it better in 288. i went to the show house, nice....high ceiling, big main door, good material use for the windows and the bathrooms.

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i have to say myself very impress of 222 facade as well, seems like they even done it better in 288. i went to the show house, nice....high ceiling, big main door, good material use for the windows and the bathrooms.
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yea...i went to 222/288 show unit. design and material is really nice and high end. if setapak green quality is same as bangsar south, then 222/288 is nicer.

anyone can provide more accurate info on uoa price and sqft? is 288 providing 1 or 2 car parks?

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i have to say myself very impress of 222 facade as well, seems like they even done it better in 288. i went to the show house, nice....high ceiling, big main door, good material use for the windows and the bathrooms.
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222 / 288 design is very modern. Their selling point is the same contractor building St Mary's in KL.

UOA is very conservative in their design. Practical interior but outdated exterior facade. Was told they are still improving the design so will see their outcome before December 2010.

One nice point about SG is the L shape balcony.
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yea...i went to 222/288 show unit. design and material is really nice and high end. if setapak green quality is same as bangsar south, then 222/288 is nicer.

anyone can provide more accurate info on uoa price and sqft? is 288 providing 1 or 2 car parks?
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For 288, i did asked the sale staff, 1400 sqft 1 car park only, but bigger size like 1800 sqft got 2 car parks, other size not sure cos didn't question more on that.

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The thing i don't like about 288 is the fact that the entrance is facing the monsoon drain and way too near the the school. I heard there will be a small bridge connecting the school and this side.

Even with the new 4 lane road (promise by Kp to build), i can only imagine traffic jam near the entrance when after / start school time. Also, school always ring a bell.

Nonetheless, with the 3 development (SG, 222 & 288), with the inflow of resident (potentially with higher spending power) i can see the resurrection of the shop lot nearby, i can only imagine, old town, paparich etc in the corner.

If you looking at the bigger picture, the price ain't too expensive.

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The thing i don't like about 288 is the fact that the entrance is facing the monsoon drain and way too near the the school. I heard there will be a small bridge connecting the school and this side.

Even with the new 4 lane road (promise by Kp to build), i can only imagine traffic jam near the entrance when after / start school time. Also, school always ring a bell.

Nonetheless, with the 3 development (SG, 222 & 288), with the inflow of resident (potentially with higher spending power) i can see the resurrection of the shop lot nearby, i can only imagine, old town, paparich etc in  the corner.

If you looking at the bigger picture, the price ain't too expensive.
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How to build 4 lanes? Diamond Square access road is so limited in space.
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4 lanes road along the current road that lead to the 288/222 show room (along the monson drain) The area where they hold the buffet will became part of the 4 lane road. (That's what i'm being told)

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Looks like a competition between UOA and KP in Setapak? If UOA wants to maintain their reputation, they need to outdo KP. Likewise goes to KP.

If UOA continues to deliver based on their old design, maybe for speed of delivery, approvals with DBKL and cost savings with outdated renderings, then they may very well be taking a wrong decision. The verdict will be in 3 years time. I hope we will not be comparing an ultra modern design next to an outdated design.
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With Kp selling point as the high end contractor on project such as St mary, I'm sure UOA can get some stuff from Binjai project. A door knob maybe?
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With Kp selling point as the high end contractor on project such as St mary, I'm sure UOA can get some stuff from Binjai project. A door knob maybe?
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If only UOA can deliver the same facade as Binjai, this will surely be a standout in Setapak. If according to the artist impression it looks really outdated.

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288 offering 40k worth of furnishing which already imbued to its selling price. Imo:

It would be great if UOA can provide the options for owner to opt for customization / premium add-on, such as kitchen cabinet, fridge, oven, burner/hood etc, possibly with additional cost, but at least, customer get what they want. And they (UOA) nullify their rival's (KP) competitive advantage.
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288 offering 40k worth of furnishing which already imbued to its selling price. Imo:

It would be great if UOA can provide the options for owner to opt for customization / premium add-on, such as kitchen cabinet, fridge, oven, burner/hood etc, possibly with additional cost, but at least, customer get what they want. And they (UOA) nullify their rival's (KP) competitive advantage.
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I don't think UOA will allow such option.


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I don't think UOA will allow such option.
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haha. true. Then give the buyer something else. They don't have much "options"anyway.

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Anyone have further news on SG or even 288?

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haha. true. Then give the buyer something else. They don't have much "options"anyway.

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Agree, UOA need to build good reputation through good quality, value and luxury.

If SG is built according to the artist impression design, I would say they are overpriced. No difference between SG and Prima Setapak II thus SG is deemed expensive. If UOA deliver a modern facade maybe equivalent or better than 222/288 providing a more luxurious ambiance, I would say the prices are justified. This will provide a benchmark to luxurious living in Setapak vicinity.

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can i know where's d sales office?
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Bangsarsouth, Kerinchi at the Village Gallery.
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webby88..thanks a lot..!
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Instead of improving their facade, i would prefer UOA to focus on its interior fittings and finishing.
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Hi all,
Talk about 288. Type of square fit they have are 1408, 1416, 1563, 1869 & 1 uint of 891.

1 car park per uint but option to purchase 2nd bay. i do ask for unit at level 16, cost RM501,800 facing genting view.

Their windows are sound proof and tinted.

Zero enrty cost and some more now got 5% rebate on total cost.

Price included: -
1) Kitchen cabinet, fridge, Microwave oven, Oven, Gas hod, Cooker hod, Air-cond for master room, air cond piping, vanity top and shower screen to all bath room
2) No need pay interest when under construction
3) S&P, Stamping all charges absorbed by developer, zero entry cost.

all electrical item using ELECTROLUX brand


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Hi all,
Talk about 288. Type of square fit they have are 1408, 1416, 1563, 1869 & 1 uint of 891.

1 car park per uint but option to purchase 2nd bay. i do ask for unit at level 16, cost RM501,800 facing genting view.

Their windows are sound proof and tinted.

Zero enrty cost and some more now got 5% rebate on total cost.

Price included: -
1) Kitchen cabinet, fridge, Microwave oven, Oven, Gas hod, Cooker hod, Air-cond for master room, air cond piping, vanity top and shower screen to all bath room
2) No need pay interest when under construction
3) S&P, Stamping all charges absorbed by developer, zero entry cost.

all electrical item using ELECTROLUX brand
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Talk about Setapak Green, 1300 to 1700 sf

2 car park per unit, not sure whether any option to purchase a third. 9 floor, facing genting view is around RM450,000

Not sure their windows sound proof or tinted or not.

Not sure about entry cost, but previously they offer 7% discount on the selling price. (Purchase price = Original price - discount) - pls correct me if im wrong

Price included: -

1) No Kitchen cabinet, fridge, Microwave oven, Oven, Gas hod, Cooker hod, Air-cond for master room, air cond piping, vanity top and shower screen to all bath room
2) No need pay interest when under construction (DIBS - Developer interest bearing scheme)
3) S&P absorbed by developer (correct me if im wrong)

Sad, UOA no give ELECTROLUX sad.gif


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Bangsarsouth, Kerinchi at the Village Gallery.
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major diff between 288/222 = commercial vs UOA residential lot.
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yup, 222 Commercial lot, thats why it is service apartment, but i heard 288 is residential lot, just like UOA SG, residential as well.
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REALLY!?!! if thats the case i am gonna get another unit for 288
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REALLY!?!! if thats the case i am gonna get another unit for 288
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pinjam dengan bank saja :$
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Anyway, what is the realistic chance for the nearby shop lot / area to resurrect? anyone trying to get that corner shop lot?
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QUOTE(lumutafuka @ Oct 11 2010, 11:32 AM)
xpensive la..reali xpensive..pv oso not tat high..


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u cn try search PV..i think nt tat xpensive..if i not mistaken 1400sq ft..ard 360k
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222/288 view to KLCC does not block by Setapak Green. However, SG 's genting view is blocked by 222.

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The thing i don't like about 288 is the fact that the entrance is facing the monsoon drain and way too near the the school. I heard there will be a small bridge connecting the school and this side.

Even with the new 4 lane road (promise by Kp to build), i can only imagine traffic jam near the entrance when after / start school time. Also, school always ring a bell.

Nonetheless, with the 3 development (SG, 222 & 288), with the inflow of resident (potentially with higher spending power) i can see the resurrection of the shop lot nearby, i can only imagine, old town, paparich etc in  the corner.

If you looking at the bigger picture, the price ain't too expensive.
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4 lane road at 222? quite impossible.
not enough land for it, unless the 4lane road is not build according to specification.


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288 offering 40k worth of furnishing which already imbued to its selling price. Imo:

It would be great if UOA can provide the options for owner to opt for customization / premium add-on, such as kitchen cabinet, fridge, oven, burner/hood etc, possibly with additional cost, but at least, customer get what they want. And they (UOA) nullify their rival's (KP) competitive advantage.
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40K worth of furnishing? it probably cost only 10k


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yup, 222 Commercial lot, thats why it is service apartment, but i heard 288 is residential lot, just like UOA SG, residential as well.
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be carefull when buying service apartments.
its not covered in the act

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Talk about Setapak Green, 1300 to 1700 sf

2 car park per unit, not sure whether any option to purchase a third. 9 floor, facing genting view is around RM450,000

Not sure their windows sound proof or tinted or not.

Not sure about entry cost, but previously they offer 7% discount on the selling price. (Purchase price = Original price - discount) - pls correct me if im wrong

Price included: -

1) No Kitchen cabinet, fridge, Microwave oven, Oven, Gas hod, Cooker hod, Air-cond for master room, air cond piping, vanity top and shower screen to all bath room
2) No need pay interest when under construction (DIBS - Developer interest bearing scheme)
3) S&P absorbed by developer (correct me if im wrong)

Sad, UOA no give ELECTROLUX  sad.gif

Not a fair comparison as there are no actual specs of SG yet. If SG is using Bangsarsouth Park Residence specs then it should have at least the following:

1. Pre install aircon piping, plenty of light points, 3 phase electricity, Water Heater points for toilets and kitchen
2. All toilets comes with vanity top (I think nicer that the ones shown in 288), Tempered glass shower screens, Mixer, Shower Rose, Stainless Kitchen Basins and Mixers (not install to cater for reno)

Bangsarsouth Park Residence comes with 12 ft ceiling clearance but I think SG is only 10ft. I think if UOA is willing to do 12ft ceiling clearance for SG, it will surely be a key selling point.

However, SG will not have fully built kitchen with appliances.

So potential buyers, I think you need to make sure whether SG includes the above before you make a decent comparison with 288 or any other similar properties. Not sure if the Sales people knows the actual specs.

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4 lane road at 222? quite impossible.
not enough land for it, unless the 4lane road is not build according to specification.


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40K worth of furnishing? it probably cost only 10k


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be carefull when buying service apartments.
its not covered in the act
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4 lane road, along the small road lead to 222/288 show room, along the monsoon drain. But imo, no matter how many lanes the road that lead to the entrance can be, the all the entrance to the area is still gonna bottleneck.

meh, i said it cost roughly 20k, 40k worth of furnishing is what 288 provide, they usually exaggerate a bit, to 106127, maybe you can provide a breakdown on how you valued them as 10k?

Yup Service apartment not cover in the act, also, due to commercial land, it cost commercial utilities rates, which is higher.


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Not a fair comparison as there are no actual specs of SG yet.  If SG is using Bangsarsouth Park Residence specs then it should have at least the following:

1. Pre install aircon piping, plenty of light points, 3 phase electricity, Water Heater points for toilets and kitchen
2. All toilets comes with vanity top (I think nicer that the ones shown in 288), Tempered glass shower screens, Mixer, Shower Rose, Stainless Kitchen Basins and Mixers (not install to cater for reno)

Bangsarsouth Park Residence comes with 12 ft ceiling clearance but I think SG is only 10ft.  I think if UOA is willing to do 12ft ceiling clearance for SG, it will surely be a key selling point.

However, SG will not have fully built kitchen with appliances.

So potential buyers, I think you need to make sure whether SG includes the above before you make a decent comparison with 288 or any other similar properties.  Not sure if the Sales people knows the actual specs.
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True true, there are no actual specs of SG yet,

i guess people prebook unit for SG based on UOA reputation.

UOA, do this:

12ft ceiling clearance for SG, it will surely be a key selling point.

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The SG sales people mention that the specs sounds the same as the Park Residences though no confirmation in anyway. This has kind of set the expectation on what comes with the unit.


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i guess people prebook unit for SG based on UOA reputation.

UOA, do this:

12ft ceiling clearance for SG, it will surely be a key selling point.
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About the reputation of UOA, anyone knows how is the maintenance of Setapak Prima and Prima II. Are they still being maintained by the management company or the residents committee. This will set precedence on the expectations of SG.

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4 lane road, along the small road lead to 222/288 show room, along the monsoon drain. But imo, no matter how many lanes the road that lead to the entrance can be, the all the entrance to the area is still gonna bottleneck.

meh, i said it cost roughly 20k, 40k worth of furnishing is what 288 provide, they usually exaggerate a bit, to 106127, maybe you can provide a breakdown on how you valued them as 10k?

Yup Service apartment not cover in the act, also, due to commercial land, it cost commercial utilities rates, which is higher.


Added on October 13, 2010, 8:54 am

True true, there are no actual specs of SG yet,

i guess people prebook unit for SG based on UOA reputation.

UOA, do this:

12ft ceiling clearance for SG, it will surely be a key selling point.
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oh i get UOA is bcoz yes repo and oso residential and it's much nearer to main road compare to 222/288/diamond regency/diamond residence.
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oh i get UOA is bcoz yes repo and oso residential and it's much nearer to main road compare to 222/288/diamond regency/diamond residence.
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This is a very solid point here, SG is closer to the main road, as well as the shop lot.


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About the reputation of UOA, anyone knows how is the maintenance of Setapak Prima and Prima II. Are they still being maintained by the management company or the residents committee.  This will set precedence on the expectations of SG.
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Prima Setapak no longer handled by UOA, then the residents picked up. Recently came out in the newspaper, conflict among, committee and some owner, over issues, its getting messy.

Not sure abt Prima setapak 2 or Plaza Prima Setapak

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Nowadays is handled by JMB

Another point i get UOA is bcoz as the propose drawing they have 2 entrance 1 in diamond square 1 @ Jln Bunga Tanjung.

Hope they really open Jln Bunga Tanjung lo.

Who later free wanna go 288 tgk sample LOL tongue.gif
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Nowadays is handled by JMB

Another point i get UOA is bcoz as the propose drawing they have 2 entrance 1 in diamond square 1  @ Jln Bunga Tanjung.

Hope they really open Jln Bunga Tanjung lo.

Who later free wanna go 288 tgk sample LOL tongue.gif
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Work la. u go check out and let us know your finding. how many unit left etc.

How bout making a poll. something like this,

Which u prefer?

a) SG
b) 222
c) 288
d) none of the above

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er haha later i go check..

how to make this poll? let me explore...
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er haha later i go check..

how to make this poll? let me explore...
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Also check out how many buy for flipping vs own-stayed..hahahaha

my vote: I bought 222 for flipping

SG is about 50m away from 222/288.

10k just enough for kitchen cabinet I think plus two pieces of shower screen.

288 got also provide two huge mirrors in bathrooms. those mirrors I think already cost 1.0k

master bedroom got one aircond and centralised hot water system (these I think already cost about 4.0k)

fridge, micro-oven, etc easily cost 10k to 15k. maybe 016 can get some discount from electrolux. lol

by the way, reality is 222+288+445=955 new units will be ready by 2013/2014.

to those who bought it for flipping like me, mind to share your exit plan...hahaha

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By the way, reality is 222+288+445=955 new units will be ready by 2013/2014.

to those who bought it for flipping like me, please share your exit plan...hahaha
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Enlighten me, let say the selling price for 288 unit, = RM500,000, - discount 5% = RM475,000, what is the expected selling price, as a flipper?

I think maybe we should change the title of the post to "Death Match - Setapak Green (UOA) vs 288 (KP property)" icon_idea.gif
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Enlighten me, let say the selling price for 288 unit, = RM500,000, - discount 5% = RM475,000, what is the expected selling price, as a flipper?

I think maybe we should change the title of the post to "Death Match - Setapak Green (UOA) vs 288 (KP property)"  icon_idea.gif
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haha...good topic title..lol


288 vs SG (sized From 1300 sq ft to 1800 sq ft)

222 ( 860sf to 1,200sq ft) - cannot beat them...hahaha


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Enlighten me, let say the selling price for 288 unit, = RM500,000, - discount 5% = RM475,000, what is the expected selling price, as a flipper?
better buy for own stay. flipper susah
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er haha later i go check..

how to make this poll? let me explore...
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after you check 288 make sure to check SG also. See how many units sold in SG and the 7% discount still apply or not?


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"Death Match - Setapak Green (UOA) vs 288 (KP property)"  icon_idea.gif
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Good idea and make sure to invite the PR from KP and UOA to participate otherwise they may be whacked without jury.

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after you check 288 make sure to check SG also.  See how many units sold in SG and the 7% discount still apply or not?


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Good idea and make sure to invite the PR from KP and UOA to participate otherwise they may be whacked without jury.
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Actually, this is the longest and most informative thread for Setapak Green in the net so far. Hopefully UOA ppl will check us out. rclxms.gif

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Actually, this is the longest and most informative thread for Setapak Green in the net so far. Hopefully UOA ppl will check us out.  rclxms.gif
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I am quite sure UOA ppl would be eavesdropping into property forums to gauge the impressions and interests of their development. Only thing whether they will pay heed to the suggestions and criticisms to improve or incorporate into their development accordingly since SG design yet to be finalized.
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I am quite sure UOA ppl would be eavesdropping into property forums to gauge the impressions and interests of their development.  Only thing whether they will pay heed to the suggestions and criticisms to improve or incorporate into their development accordingly since SG design yet to be finalized.
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haha. too bad this is not a property forum. But if they know how to use google then should be fine smile.gif If redesign the facade may be too costly or time consuming, then give UOA buyer quality interior fittings as well as 12ft ceiling clearance, hahaha, my suggestion, sure the more the merrier, howabout another electrolux? thumbup.gif
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haha. too bad this is not a property forum. But if they know how to use google then should be fine  smile.gif If redesign the facade may be too costly or time consuming, then give UOA buyer quality interior fittings as well as 12ft ceiling clearance, hahaha, my suggestion, sure the more the merrier, howabout another electrolux?  thumbup.gif
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Let's not be greedy, just ask UOA to match the freebies given by 288 and conform to Park Residences specs together with the 12 ft ceiling clearance would suffice. Why 12 feet so that the SG genting view 7 or 8 floor can be above Diamond Square roof top.
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Let's not be greedy, just ask UOA to match the freebies given by 288 and conform to Park Residences specs together with the 12 ft ceiling clearance would suffice.  Why 12 feet so that the SG genting view 7 or 8 floor can be above Diamond Square roof top.
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^ This is greedy.... drool.gif hahhahahha
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^ This is greedy....  drool.gif hahhahahha
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If not, UOA SG definitely is way overpriced in Gombak area.
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If not, UOA SG definitely is way overpriced in Gombak area.
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Definitely the most expensive... i want my money back.

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Definitely the most expensive... i want my money back.
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Just don't sign the S&P in Jan. If Friday budget announcements made curbs to property loans, I think quite a few may withdraw.
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Just don't sign the S&P in Jan.  If Friday budget announcements made curbs to property loans, I think quite a few may withdraw.
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Will buyer getting back full RM10k booking fees? or subject to some charges if withdraw?
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Will buyer getting back full RM10k booking fees? or subject to some charges if withdraw?
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Don't know. But can argue the law in many ways I suppose.
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What do we aspect in the coming budget inrelating to property? property gain tax? Do we still get 1 house free from property gain tax per life?
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What do we aspect in the coming budget inrelating to property? property gain tax? Do we still get 1 house free from property gain tax per life?
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market rumour is the loan to value ratio for 3rd property of 70% only.
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leasehold or freehold?
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Freehold rclxms.gif


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Actually, this is the longest and most informative thread for Setapak Green in the net so far. Hopefully UOA ppl will check us out.  rclxms.gif
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Check already, still got 7% discount rclxms.gif


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bcoz today is for UOA member day. sunday onwards is official launch

for UOA member is 8% discount.

10-11 Oct discount maybe lesser.
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Ya lor... now only 7% discount.. but better than 288 la... only 5% discount sweat.gif

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Freehold  rclxms.gif


Added on October 13, 2010, 8:14 pm

Check already, still got 7% discount  rclxms.gif


Added on October 13, 2010, 8:17 pm
Ya lor... now only 7% discount.. but better than 288 la... only 5% discount  sweat.gif
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I suspect this fella from UOA. Hello... icon_rolleyes.gif
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I suspect this fella from UOA. Hello...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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hahaha... aiyo... u very suspicious lo... I just tell u guys a fact onli... went to both 288 and SG, but dun think both is a good deal lo... 300++/ sf @ setapak area.


Added on October 13, 2010, 8:29 pmhey all think about it... 222 + 288 + SG = Traffic Jam like Hell


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you cannot compare a property under construction vs a completed property.


Added on October 13, 2010, 1:33 am
u sure? from what i see, 222/288 KLCC view is not KLCC view.


Added on October 13, 2010, 1:37 am

4 lane road at 222? quite impossible.
not enough land for it, unless the 4lane road is not build according to specification.


Added on October 13, 2010, 1:39 am
40K worth of furnishing? it probably cost only 10k


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be carefull when buying service apartments.
its not covered in the act
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Sure or not the promise... got land to expand the road meh... always stuck in the jam there leh... aiyo.. it will be another nightmare liao...

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hahaha... aiyo... u very suspicious lo... I just tell u guys a fact onli... went to both 288 and SG, but dun think both is a good deal lo... 300++/ sf @ setapak area.
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Yup, its definitely over price for this area atm, but so far in setapak area, there is no luxury project yet (pardon my lack of knowledge if there's any), so its really not apple to apple comparison, Setapak is currently under major development, new road to curb traffic jam, shopping complex at platinum there, this may the start of 300++sf property for setapak.

Also, setapak is so used to be a student township (TAR), let not forget, most graduate continue to stay in setapak area after joining the work force, hence, + in spending power, + development.


Added on October 13, 2010, 8:38 pm@Propertyguy, the 4 lane road i heard from 288 guy, is only along the monson drain, i am not convince that it will help the traffic since no matter how wide the road is, it always back to bottleneck.

Traffic jam is unavoidable.

510 + SG = Traffic Jam like Hell

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Yup, its definitely over price for this area atm, but so far in setapak area, there is no luxury project yet (pardon my lack of knowledge if there's any), so its really not apple to apple comparison, Setapak is currently under major development, new road to curb traffic jam, shopping complex at platinum there, this may the start of 300++sf property for setapak.

Also, setapak is so used to be a student township (TAR), let not forget, most graduate continue to stay in setapak area after joining the work force, hence, + in spending power, + development.


Added on October 13, 2010, 8:38 pm@Propertyguy, the 4 lane road i heard from 288 guy, is only along the monson drain, i am not convince that it will help the traffic since no matter how wide the road is, it always back to bottleneck.

Traffic jam is unavoidable.
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Do u guys know if there have any plan for any expansion on the LRT or something... If there do I might consider... or else I am consider to move out from this area, can u imagine after 2 to 3 years this will be a worst nightmare liao... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Propertyguy @ Oct 13 2010, 08:44 PM)
Do u guys know if there have any plan for any expansion on the LRT or something... If there do I might consider... or else I am consider to move out from this area, can u imagine after 2 to 3 years this will be a worst nightmare liao... rclxub.gif
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with or without lrt, Setapak is just a step away from KL. Move out to where? Go Puchong landed property, takes 2 hours to KL, Go greater KL in Sg Buloh, takes 2 hours, Go Cheras, takes 2 hours, Bukit Jalil takes 1 hour, PJ takes 1hr, Setapak to KL 55 min, still save 5 mins. biggrin.gif
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Do u guys think this is still worth to buy for own stay? went to both last sunday (288) and today (SG), seem the price is gone up so much...

Good thing abt 288 is U can move in, no need to worry about renovation, but only got 1 car park.

Good thing abt SG is got 2 car park but have to find xtra money to renovate lo. (where got xtra money to reno, after spend all de $ to buy the place).




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Do u guys think this is still worth to buy for own stay? went to both last sunday (288) and today (SG), seem the price is gone up so much...

Good thing abt 288 is U can move in, no need to worry about renovation, but only got 1 car park.

Good thing abt SG is got 2 car park but have to find xtra money to renovate lo. (where got xtra money to reno, after spend all de $ to buy the place).
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Price gone up? ARe you sure?
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QUOTE(Propertyguy @ Oct 13 2010, 08:44 PM)
Do u guys know if there have any plan for any expansion on the LRT or something... If there do I might consider... or else I am consider to move out from this area, can u imagine after 2 to 3 years this will be a worst nightmare liao... rclxub.gif
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haha..traffic jam everywhere in klang valley.. new car selling volumn increase month by month, year by year. Congested area always ONG ONG ma...hahaha

added: every locality got its buyers / fancies... KL city centre is not only the place for you to work at soon. if you worked in shah alam, better stay at shah alam lo. why make yourself susah to travel. anyway, it is your personal choices. who cares!

Setapak area is heading to 400psf ...lol......i believe such new good quality product will deserve it at setapak area, supported by inflation as well.

angkong popi.....down the road to 2013/2014, what will our world likely to be?

by the way, soho unit Zetapark @ KL festival mall already hitting 500psf. Although a small soho unit, i believe the next last phase will be around 1,200sf serviced apartment and selling price to be awaiting to annouce next year.

KL festival Mall will be ready in 2Q 2011.

http://www.myrealestate.com.my/viewtopic.php?t=14978

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QUOTE(Propertyguy @ Oct 13 2010, 08:50 PM)
Do u guys think this is still worth to buy for own stay? went to both last sunday (288) and today (SG), seem the price is gone up so much...

Good thing abt 288 is U can move in, no need to worry about renovation, but only got 1 car park.

Good thing abt SG is got 2 car park but have to find xtra money to renovate lo. (where got xtra money to reno, after spend all de $ to buy the place).
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Yup, better for stay, I'm not convince to flip something cost half a million,,,

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haha..traffic jam everywhere in klang valley.. new car selling volumn increase month by month, year by year. Congested area always ONG ONG ma...hahaha

Setapak area is heading to 400psf ...lol......i believe such new good quality product will deserve it at setapak area, supported by inflation as well.

angkong popi.....down the road to 2013/2014, what will our world likely to be?

by the way, soho unit Zetapark @ KL festival mall already hitting 500psf. Although a small soho unit, i believe the next last phase will be around 1,200sf serviced apartment and selling price to be awaiting to annouce next year.

KL festival Mall will be ready in 2Q 2011.

http://www.myrealestate.com.my/viewtopic.php?t=14978
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Zetapark is more iconic on paper compared with SG. If SG can deliver such design, I would say the prices are acceptable. SG design is outdated.


Added on October 13, 2010, 9:05 pmAnyone knows which are the panel banks appointed by UOA for DIBS scheme?

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@propertyguy, I rechon sg to be at least fifty thousand lower in price than 288 for the same level, and view, with that 50k I'm sure it can be used for reno right? Zzz its so hard to reply with my phone..


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Zetapark is more iconic on paper compared with SG.  If SG can deliver such design, I would say the prices are acceptable.  SG design is outdated.


Added on October 13, 2010, 9:05 pmAnyone knows which are the panel banks appointed by UOA for DIBS scheme?
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Ambank confirm got, I heard uoa, maybe, I heard no ocbc, other bank not sure.

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Ambank confirm got, I heard uoa, maybe, I heard no ocbc, other bank not sure.
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Someone quoted 4 banks so I wonder which ones besides the Camel.
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Someone quoted 4 banks so I wonder which ones besides the Camel.
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Webby, you also got one unit for yourself?


288
Entry Cost only 5% after discount and then can sign SPA
loan agreement fee waived (stamp duty also waived if not mistaken)
so 490k, you only down about 25k to own a unit of 288 sized 1408sf

SG
Entry cost still 10% based on SPA price (SPA price = developer offer price - 7%)
No loan agreement free nor stamp duty free? (please confirm)
So 420k (lowest floor, 1st floor?), after 7% discount, u get 390k, downpayment 39k. plus loan agreement fee + stamp duty fee (around said 6K)..total down 45k

different 45k-25k=20k cash, maybe can buy carpark? any advice?

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ya hidden830726 just went there and kena racun.
so i oso bought 1 for flipping :S not many left

din really count how many left.
just get the smallest 1408

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ya hidden830726 just went there and kena racun.
so i oso bought 1 for flipping :S not many left

din really count how many left. 
just get the smallest 1408
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Congrate......join our family as flipper..hahaha...

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Webby, you also got one unit for yourself?
288
Contemplating whether to go for 288 or SG.


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ya hidden830726 just went there and kena racun.
so i oso bought 1 for flipping :S not many left

din really count how many left. 
just get the smallest 1408
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which one your got racun, SG or 288?

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but 1 thing hor.....

next to 288 is those lian jia wu (low cost appmt)....

erm... now think back.... nanti susah flip oh :S


Added on October 13, 2010, 9:47 pmwebby88, i got myself a unit in SG last fri leow tats for own stay

for 288 is flip. kena racun... shouldn't have go... shit~

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but 1 thing hor.....

next to 288 is those lian jia wu (low cost appmt)....

erm... now think back.... nanti susah flip oh :S
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hehehe..then you should make your decision now lo before SPA signed...hahaha


contoh lian jia wu area in SS2/72....for your case study...kekeke

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but 1 thing hor.....

next to 288 is those lian jia wu (low cost appmt)....

erm... now think back.... nanti susah flip oh :S
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can sell to low cost owner who wants to upgrade lor biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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webby88, i got myself a unit in SG last fri leow tats for own stay

for 288 is flip. kena racun... shouldn't have go... shit~
why consider 288 for flip when you can consider SG for flip too??

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 13 2010, 09:48 PM)
can sell to low cost owner who wants to upgrade lor  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif


Added on October 13, 2010, 9:51 pm
why consider 288 for flip when you can consider SG for flip too??
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ya lo laugh.gif hahahaha

collect rental also easy ma... thumbup.gif

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Grats. no matter 288 or sg,if for stay then future neighbour le... as for the low cost apartment, side by side, then it further enhance 288 futuristic design.

Damm, this is 288 thread or Sg thread. hahhaha



hahaha.....288+SG+222+Berlian++lowcost all are neighbours.

Complement to each other

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 13 2010, 09:46 PM)
but 1 thing hor.....

next to 288 is those lian jia wu (low cost appmt)....

erm... now think back.... nanti susah flip oh :S


Added on October 13, 2010, 9:47 pmwebby88, i got myself a unit in SG last fri leow tats for own stay

for 288 is flip. kena racun... shouldn't have go... shit~
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Grats. no matter 288 or sg,if for stay then future neighbour le... as for the low cost apartment, side by side, then it further enhance 288 futuristic design.

Damm, this is 288 thread or Sg thread. hahhaha


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can sell to low cost owner who wants to upgrade lor  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif


Added on October 13, 2010, 9:51 pm
why consider 288 for flip when you can consider SG for flip too??
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One potential reason is to Diversify maybe

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hehehe..then you should make your decision now lo before SPA signed...hahaha
contoh lian jia wu area in SS2/72....for your case study...kekeke
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eh ss2 got lian jia wu 1 meh? paiseh la me Buta PJ...

u le kh8668 u beli face klcc de ma? me beli face genting nia sad.gif
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Grats. no matter 288 or sg,if for stay then future neighbour le... as for the low cost apartment, side by side, then it further enhance 288 futuristic design.

Another 10 years the low cost apartment may be classify as a heritage building then the 288 unit can fetch very good price. biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 13 2010, 09:48 PM)
can sell to low cost owner who wants to upgrade lor  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif


Added on October 13, 2010, 9:51 pm
why consider 288 for flip when you can consider SG for flip too??
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u TING me up a good idea...

coz initially me was thinking for UOA for own stay de.
but now u gave me an idea tat 288 for stay and UOA can flip hor. drool.gif drool.gif


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ya lo  laugh.gif hahahaha

collect rental also easy ma... thumbup.gif
hahaha.....288+SG+222+Berlian++lowcost all are neighbours.

Complement to each other
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collect rental? still need 2 pay bank ler...

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One potential reason is to Diversify maybe
Diversify is fine but what is the track record of KP in building condo or service apartment. I am not saying UOA is great but at least they have some experience though not really luxurious ones.


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coz initially me was thinking for UOA for own stay de.
but now u gave me an idea tat 288 for stay and UOA can flip hor.  drool.gif  drool.gif

Better flip both and stay in the low cost apartment next door. Same location and high enough get KLCC view too. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 13 2010, 09:57 PM)
eh ss2 got lian jia wu 1 meh? paiseh la me Buta PJ...

u le kh8668 u beli face klcc de ma? me beli face genting nia sad.gif
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kekekeke...i bought in 222 not 288, limited bullets can use..kekekeke

facing klcc, need to walk out from balcony then only can see the jagung. sitting inside the unit hardly to see any, kl view only lo.

by the way, 288 genting view should be better (for those higher floor units). SG totally kena block by 222 for genting view direction.


I have checked with google earth. you can check too, perhaps someone can do the research too.


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kekekeke...i bought in 222 not 288, limited bullets can use..kekekeke

facing klcc, need to walk out from balcony then only can see the jagung. sitting inside the unit hardly to see any, kl view only lo.

by the way, 288 genting view should be better (for those higher floor units). SG totally kena block by 222 for genting view direction.
I have checked with google earth. you can check too, perhaps someone can do the research too.
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No wonder for SG, diamond view is the cheapest followed by 222/288 view.

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Diversify is fine but what is the track record of KP in building condo or service apartment.  I am not saying UOA is great but at least they have some experience though not really luxurious ones.


Added on October 13, 2010, 10:02 pm
Better flip both and stay in the low cost apartment next door.  Same location and high enough get KLCC view too. tongue.gif
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hahaha...kp is newborn developer, slowly develop its business to property development as well.

same story to G residence 's developer (which business in construction and cements).

YTL also divert its business to more sector from construction. hehehehe


UOA is a public listed company, track record sure keng keng one. no doubt. good one.

however, everyone also got one time new la, the most important thing is the attitude they adopt to themselves and also to their customers.

KP serious or not to develop its project, this you have to judge yourself from what they had done so far.
I bought KP property, and KP belanja me makan 3 kali liao. kekekeke....i always makan makan free one from launching except UOA (minium saja, ambil sendiri also).

buying property, yours decision. good one

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:00 PM)
Diversify is fine but what is the track record of KP in building condo or service apartment.  I am not saying UOA is great but at least they have some experience though not really luxurious ones.


Added on October 13, 2010, 10:02 pm
Better flip both and stay in the low cost apartment next door.  Same location and high enough get KLCC view too. tongue.gif
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ha??? shocking.gif shocking.gif erm..... a bit shock when u say tat sweat.gif but no la mostly will take UOA but wat u said is exactly true.
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288 got also provide two huge mirrors in bathrooms. those mirrors I think already cost 1.0k
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THIS project is not for flippers!
those buying to flip might got burn or with little profit only.
By the time VP, the market is saturated and with 70% LVR ,

just pray hard k.

2 huge mirrors cost 1.0k?? OMG....


Added on October 13, 2010, 10:16 pm
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Will buyer getting back full RM10k booking fees? or subject to some charges if withdraw?
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normally UOA will deduct 1k

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:11 PM)
hahaha...kp is newborn developer, slowly develop its business to property development as well.

same story to G residence 's developer (which business in construction and cement business).

YTL also ma, divert to more business from also construction business. hehehehe
UOA is a public listed company, track record sure keng keng one. no doubt. good one.

however, everyone also got one time new la, the most important thing is the attitude the adopted to themselves and also to their customers.

KP serious or not to develop its project, this you have to judge yourself from what they had done so far.
I bought KP property, and KP belanja me makan 3 kali liao. kekekeke....i always makan makan free one from launching except UOA (minium saja, ambil sendiri also).

buying property, yours decision. good one
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OK you are giving KP a chance to prove themselves of their ability and at least they treat you like customer. I go there the other day, food oso dont have, I take mineral water, they stare at me like a nobody wor.......
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QUOTE(Propertyguy @ Oct 13 2010, 08:12 PM)
Freehold  rclxms.gif


Added on October 13, 2010, 8:14 pm

Check already, still got 7% discount  rclxms.gif


Added on October 13, 2010, 8:17 pm
Ya lor... now only 7% discount.. but better than 288 la... only 5% discount  sweat.gif
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UOA members got 8% discount la..
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THIS project is not form flippers!
those buying to flip might got burn or with little profit only.
By the time VP, the market is saturated and with 70% LVR ,

just pray hard k.

2 huge mirrors cost 1.0k?? OMG....
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ok. this fella might from UOA, rclxms.gif joking.

But, im too not so confident about flipping 288. For fliping, maybe UOA better, maybe personal preference.

Also, i believe SG is more for family stay (with its garden etc), while 288 is more for couple, newly wed etc.. younger generation, because its cool....
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Do u guys know if there have any plan for any expansion on the LRT or something... If there do I might consider... or else I am consider to move out from this area, can u imagine after 2 to 3 years this will be a worst nightmare liao... rclxub.gif
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no LRT to 222 and 288 and SG
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QUOTE(106127 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:12 PM)
THIS project is not form flippers!
those buying to flip might got burn or with little profit only.
By the time VP, the market is saturated and with 70% LVR ,

just pray hard k.

2 huge mirrors cost 1.0k?? OMG....


Added on October 13, 2010, 10:16 pm

normally UOA will deduct 1k
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0106...if you know how much the mirror cost, mind to share with us..hahaha....

size maybe 5ftx4ft or 5ftx3.5ft

2 pieces....kekekeke
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UOA member still get 8% now? i thought its only 8% on the 1st day of preview? hehe
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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 13 2010, 08:48 PM)
with or without lrt, Setapak is just a step away from KL.  Move out to where?  Go Puchong landed property, takes 2 hours to KL, Go greater KL in Sg Buloh, takes 2 hours,  Go Cheras, takes 2 hours, Bukit Jalil takes 1 hour, PJ takes 1hr, Setapak to KL 55 min, still save 5 mins.  biggrin.gif
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Webby88,
the developer of 222 claims that it only takes 15 minutes to KLCC from 222!!! rclxms.gif
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Webby88,
the developer of 222 claims that it only takes 15 minutes to KLCC from 222!!!  rclxms.gif
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If during rush hour, you jog to klcc is faster than driving. During Hari Raya, CNY holidays, it is 15 minutes driving. Better ask them to clarify.


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UOA member still get 8% now? i thought its only 8% on the 1st day of preview? hehe
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How come UOA SG no reservation for Bumi?

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Webby88,
the developer of 222 claims that it only takes 15 minutes to KLCC from 222!!!  rclxms.gif
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hahaha....from main unit door - go to tekan lift button - get down to carparking bay - take your car and drive out to the guardhouse already 15min...lol

LRT? I hope if got LRT also not too close to 222...kekeke....maybe 500m away should be better to me....hahaha

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:23 PM)
If during rush hour, you jog to klcc is faster than driving.  During Hari Raya, CNY holidays, it is 15 minutes driving.  Better ask them to clarify.


Added on October 13, 2010, 10:24 pm
How come UOA SG no reservation for Bumi?
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30-40 minutes from 222/288 to klcc enuf la during 8am-10am peak time. tak payah 1 hour.

by the way this threaad really hot leow... icon_idea.gif

erm.. how 2 make poll?
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Added on October 13, 2010, 10:24 pm
How come UOA SG no reservation for Bumi?
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I reached the UOA sales office 11am on the 1st day of preview (open 10am) when i reached there, at least 30 unit taken, mostly KLCC view, i'm sure the admin girl not able to fill up 30 forms and collect deposit in time, so i presume someone (maybe staff) already taken before the preview, maybe it consist bumi lot?


Added on October 13, 2010, 10:31 pm@Cyber, im not sure myself, not a patron to lowyat.net before this, if cant make poll, i suggest change the title bah, this is no longer Setapak Green only thread la.

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30-40 minutes from 222/288 to klcc enuf la during 8am-10am peak time. tak payah 1 hour.

by the way this threaad really hot leow... icon_idea.gif

erm.. how 2 make poll?
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yeah..every new property thread is hot...kekeke...from starting discuss the bad and good of the project -argument about overpriced or cheap- then goes to decide to buy or not buy - place booking - all units fully booked - loan applied - and then all waiting for completion - and then VP - reno - moved in and TUTP thread...kekeke...

after this, new property come out, newer price newer concept - the discussion goes all around again...hahaha


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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:20 PM)
0106...if you know how much the mirror cost, mind to share with us..hahaha....

size maybe 5ftx4ft or 5ftx3.5ft

2 pieces....kekekeke
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definitely wont cost 1.0k

its only 37.5sf

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I reached the UOA sales office 11am on the 1st day of preview (open 10am) when i reached there, at least 30 unit taken, mostly KLCC view, i'm sure the admin girl not able to fill up 30 forms and collect deposit in time, so i presume someone (maybe staff) already taken before the preview, maybe it consist bumi lot?


I was made to understand that the early bookings were mainly staff bookings. There were also some customers that took quite a few units at one go.

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definitely wont cost 1.0k

its only 37.5sf
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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:29 PM)
I reached the UOA sales office 11am on the 1st day of preview (open 10am) when i reached there, at least 30 unit taken, mostly KLCC view, i'm sure the admin girl not able to fill up 30 forms and collect deposit in time, so i presume someone (maybe staff) already taken before the preview, maybe it consist bumi lot?


Added on October 13, 2010, 10:31 pm@Cyber, im not sure myself, not a patron to lowyat.net before this, if cant make poll, i suggest change the title bah, this is no longer Setapak Green only thread la.
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eh u 10 am ka? me 945 already there ler.
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eh u 10 am ka? me 945 already there ler.
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I reached around 11am, Me not so experience mah, next time i knowalrady.... need to reach early. rclxms.gif
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Anyone care to share any info about this project. This is what I've seen.

445 unit on 4.5 acres. FREEHOLD.

Preview launch was on the 8th Oct. As usual, some choice units already had stickers on it. Presumably, staff units and Directors units. Approx. 25 units or so.

No brochure whatsoever. Everything said by the sales personnel is subject to change. This includes the design of the building, the unit size and price. Then WHAT are we buying?? Everything is tentative, no approvals from the relevant authorities yet with regards to project design etc. Picture given looks like the same building as Bangsar South project, which will look so outdated and can join the dinosaur realm when it's delivered 3 years time.

Aiyo!! This is suppose to be UOA a projectman!!. It seems like Ah Beng launching this project. Design outdated, details not finalized and expect buyers to buy blindly!! Even the 288 project (Just next door & fully furnished) was better as at least the show unit and details were already up and transparent. Also, I think it is overpriced!! Setapak suffers from a price height problem, somehow it can't appreciate although very near KL (using KLCC as benchmark)

This is so disappointing because never imagined UOA launch was done haphazardly. End up not booking and my friend intends to pull out before S&P signing.

WHAT A DISASTROUS LAUNCH!!
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This is all KP's fault. If not for 222/288, UOA wont priced SG at this kind of price in this location. If you can notice at the show gallery, UOA seems take this "battle" without much preparation.
1) No model
2) Specs not that confirm
3) 2 car parks? Also not 100% confirm
4) Brochure pun tak de
Only the price match 288, i.e. high price

If UOA dint take any concrete decision by Jan (b4 signing SPA), i bet some of the purchaser will pull out...

Just my 2 cents.

kh, FYI, UOA is not listed in Malaysia.
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Anyone care to share any info about this project. This is what I've seen.

445 unit on 4.5 acres. FREEHOLD.

Preview launch was on the 8th Oct. As usual, some choice units already had stickers on it. Presumably, staff units and Directors units. Approx. 25 units or so.

No brochure whatsoever. Everything said by the sales personnel is subject to change. This includes the design of the building, the unit size and price. Then WHAT are we buying?? Everything is tentative, no approvals from the relevant authorities yet with regards to project design etc. Picture given looks like the same building as Bangsar South project, which will look so outdated and can join the dinosaur realm when it's delivered 3 years time.

Aiyo!! This is suppose to be UOA a projectman!!. It seems like Ah Beng launching this project. Design outdated, details not finalized and expect buyers to buy blindly!! Even the 288 project (Just next door & fully furnished) was better as at least the show unit and details were already up and transparent. Also, I think it is overpriced!! Setapak suffers from a price height problem, somehow it can't appreciate although very near KL (using KLCC as benchmark)

This is so disappointing because never imagined UOA launch was done haphazardly. End up not booking and my friend intends to pull out before S&P signing.

WHAT A DISASTROUS LAUNCH!!
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Good points, lets wait and see. I'm sure UOA aware of how bad the launch is, the only reason i see UOA rushing it, is because competition from 222 & 288 for its potential buyer, which is understandable from their point of view, but now, UOA need to deliver something beyond excellence.
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for those who book lower floors of SG, please look carefully, first floor IS first level! 288 first floor is on level 6 or 7..


Added on October 13, 2010, 11:31 pmeven when a couple in front of me discussing with the SA on: "dun worry 1st floor is on top of the car park, still ok", the SA just keep quiet. but i know it is wrong!


Added on October 13, 2010, 11:34 pmThat means for SG: for the units on levels 1 to 5/6? with the L shape balcony, beware coz you are facing the car park block, and/or the low cost flat (correct me if i am wrong)...


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QUOTE(wonghs @ Oct 13 2010, 11:29 PM)
for those who book lower floors of SG, please look carefully, first floor IS first level! 288 first floor is on level 6 or 7..


Added on October 13, 2010, 11:31 pmeven when a couple in front of me discussing with the SA on: "dun worry 1st floor is on top of the car park, still ok", the SA just keep quiet. but i know it is wrong!


Added on October 13, 2010, 11:34 pmThat means for SG: for the units on levels 1 to 5/6? with the L shape balcony, beware coz you are facing the car park block, and/or the low cost flat (correct me if i am wrong)...
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Wonghs, u booking or bought any unit? SG or 288?
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This is all KP's fault. If not for 222/288, UOA wont priced SG at this kind of price in this location. If you can notice at the show gallery, UOA seems take this "battle" without much preparation.
1) No model
2) Specs not that confirm
3) 2 car parks? Also not 100% confirm
4) Brochure pun tak de
Only the price match 288, i.e. high price

If UOA dint take any concrete decision by Jan (b4 signing SPA), i bet some of the purchaser will pull out...

Just my 2 cents.

kh, FYI, UOA is not listed in Malaysia.
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I didn't mention UOA is listed in Malaysia wor...hahaha...i mentioned only UOA is a public listed company.

no matter how bad it is....sooner or later all units will be snapped up by flippers....LOL

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:02 PM)
kekekeke...i bought in 222 not 288, limited bullets can use..kekekeke

facing klcc, need to walk out from balcony then only can see the jagung. sitting inside the unit hardly to see any, kl view only lo.

by the way, 288 genting view should be better (for those higher floor units). SG totally kena block by 222 for genting view direction.
I have checked with google earth. you can check too, perhaps someone can do the research too.
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If this is true (SG genting view kena block by 222), then another SA is lying to another purchaser in front of me, bulat-bulat. this is either the developer's plan is not finalised yet or the SA doesnt know about the project itself...
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If this is true (SG genting view kena block by 222), then another SA is lying to another purchaser in front of me, bulat-bulat. this is either the developer's plan is not finalised yet or the SA doesnt know about the project itself...
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Genting Klang view i think,
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Wonghs, u booking or bought any unit? SG or 288?
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hahaha.. neither one. both are not my cup of tea, for flip is not the best type. but i must admit, both are very good for own stay, just the price are a bit on the high side. but prices here (for good quality apartment/condo) will appreciate & might reach 400psf in 2 or 3 years time.
Infra here will improve sooner or later, due to the inflow of young people into KL city.


Added on October 14, 2010, 12:02 am
QUOTE(106127 @ Oct 13 2010, 01:32 AM)
you cannot compare a property under construction vs a completed property.


Added on October 13, 2010, 1:33 am
u sure? from what i see, 222/288 KLCC view is not KLCC view.


Added on October 13, 2010, 1:37 am

4 lane road at 222? quite impossible.
not enough land for it, unless the 4lane road is not build according to specification.


Added on October 13, 2010, 1:39 am
40K worth of furnishing? it probably cost only 10k


Added on October 13, 2010, 1:44 am

be carefull when buying service apartments.
its not covered in the act
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I guess if you havent look at the SPA as prepared by KP. It is govern under the Housing Development Act.

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I reached around 11am, Me not so experience mah, next time i knowalrady.... need to reach early. rclxms.gif
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but reach 945 i leave 1++Pm lol


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QUOTE(william2010 @ Oct 13 2010, 11:23 PM)
Anyone care to share any info about this project. This is what I've seen.

445 unit on 4.5 acres. FREEHOLD.

Preview launch was on the 8th Oct. As usual, some choice units already had stickers on it. Presumably, staff units and Directors units. Approx. 25 units or so.

No brochure whatsoever. Everything said by the sales personnel is subject to change. This includes the design of the building, the unit size and price. Then WHAT are we buying?? Everything is tentative, no approvals from the relevant authorities yet with regards to project design etc. Picture given looks like the same building as Bangsar South project, which will look so outdated and can join the dinosaur realm when it's delivered 3 years time.

Aiyo!! This is suppose to be UOA a projectman!!. It seems like Ah Beng launching this project. Design outdated, details not finalized and expect buyers to buy blindly!! Even the 288 project (Just next door & fully furnished) was better as at least the show unit and details were already up and transparent. Also, I think it is overpriced!! Setapak suffers from a price height problem, somehow it can't appreciate although very near KL (using KLCC as benchmark)

This is so disappointing because never imagined UOA launch was done haphazardly. End up not booking and my friend intends to pull out before S&P signing.

WHAT A DISASTROUS LAUNCH!!
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i guess tats bcoz they can't finish in time and yet wanna beat 288 tat y gfua?


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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 13 2010, 11:29 PM)
Good points, lets wait and see. I'm sure UOA aware of how bad the launch is, the only reason i see UOA rushing it, is because competition from 222 & 288 for its potential buyer, which is understandable from their point of view, but now, UOA need to deliver something beyond excellence.
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ya i really longing for something better than 288 since iam gonna stay there LOL

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Basically i have a few concern in respect of the above properties..

1) There is no way that Jalan Gombak tunnel ( to jalan pahang) can be extended anymore ? it might cause the traffic jam terribly

2) SG has not come out with FULL detail infor about the property, as such i doubt that whether they will change the layout or PRICE anytime. I went to the showroom on last Fri and that the Sales Manager informed me that the floor area is about 1300- 1400 ONLY. But end up the second day, as claim by them, they have changed the layout OVERNIGHT just to offer a better layout . (i doubt that how true it is.. and the the architect managed to changed the layout OVERNIGHT , salute them !! )

3) No details of the loan package being advised so i am wondering whether i need to proceed with my loan application and bear in mind, the PRICE may not be finalised. How to apply leh ?

4) My concern is the density of the properties. Having 400 over unit the particular land, could it be too high ?

5) VIsitors parking may be one of the issue . As we all know, always the car park does not serve the residents population. IF happen that the visitor car park is FULL, where can i expect the other visitors to park their car.


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Wonghs, u booking or bought any unit? SG or 288?
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I agree. Those who book the units from 1-6/7 corner unit neside the car park, please do not expect to have ur nice KLCC view coz it is blocked entirely by the car park after the REVISED layout.


Added on October 14, 2010, 12:49 am
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Basically i have a few concern in respect of the above properties..

1) There is no way that Jalan Gombak  tunnel ( to jalan pahang) can be extended anymore ? it might cause the traffic jam terribly

2) SG has not come out with FULL detail infor about the property, as such i doubt that whether they will change the layout or PRICE anytime. I went to the showroom on last Fri and that the Sales Manager informed me that the floor area is about 1300- 1400 ONLY. But end up the second day, as claim by them, they have changed the layout OVERNIGHT just to offer a better layout . (i doubt that how true it is.. and the the architect managed to changed the layout OVERNIGHT , salute them !! )

3) No details of the loan package being advised so i am wondering whether i need to proceed with my loan application and bear in mind, the PRICE may not be finalised. How to apply leh ?

4) My concern is the density of the properties. Having 400 over unit the particular land, could it be too high ?

5) VIsitors parking may be one of the issue . As we all know, always the car park does not serve the residents population. IF happen that the visitor car park is FULL, where can i expect the other visitors to park their car.


Added on October 14, 2010, 12:45 am

I agree. Those who book the units from 1-6/7 corner unit neside the car park, please do not expect to have ur nice KLCC view coz it is blocked entirely by the car park after the REVISED layout.
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I find that 288 design bit funny as the toilet is hiding inside the so called utility room ..if happen i convert it to a maid room meaning every now and then i have to VISIT my maid before i go toilet lo ...

How realiable is KP ... i understand tht 222 and 288 is their first project . THough they have experience in buiding High End Condo , but they were only main con not developer ... so please take into consideration of this if you have taken 288.

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QUOTE(Avatar1980 @ Oct 14 2010, 12:43 AM)
Basically i have a few concern in respect of the above properties..

1) There is no way that Jalan Gombak  tunnel ( to jalan pahang) can be extended anymore ? it might cause the traffic jam terribly

2) SG has not come out with FULL detail infor about the property, as such i doubt that whether they will change the layout or PRICE anytime. I went to the showroom on last Fri and that the Sales Manager informed me that the floor area is about 1300- 1400 ONLY. But end up the second day, as claim by them, they have changed the layout OVERNIGHT just to offer a better layout . (i doubt that how true it is.. and the the architect managed to changed the layout OVERNIGHT , salute them !! )

3) No details of the loan package being advised so i am wondering whether i need to proceed with my loan application and bear in mind, the PRICE may not be finalised. How to apply leh ?

4) My concern is the density of the properties. Having 400 over unit the particular land, could it be too high ?

5) VIsitors parking may be one of the issue . As we all know, always the car park does not serve the residents population. IF happen that the visitor car park is FULL, where can i expect the other visitors to park their car.


Added on October 14, 2010, 12:45 am

I agree. Those who book the units from 1-6/7 corner unit neside the car park, please do not expect to have ur nice KLCC view coz it is blocked entirely by the car park after the REVISED layout.


Added on October 14, 2010, 12:49 am
I find that 288 design bit  funny as the toilet is hiding inside the so called utility room ..if happen i convert it to a maid room meaning every now and then i have to VISIT my maid before i go toilet lo ...

How realiable is KP ... i understand tht 222 and 288 is their first project . THough they have experience in buiding High End Condo , but they were only main con not developer ... so please take into consideration of this if you have taken 288.
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Everyone got chance to learn how to be a good developer. Developer is not a person but a group of people/profesional. It's not hard to get right person to help out in developing a project. I don't see it is difficult for KP to learn to be a good developer. They worked with a number of well-known developers in the country, they should know how to do. as long as you can pay the money, sure lot of profesional will work for you, team up and make the project succesful.

So I don't see that is a major problem, or I should say it is not even can consider as an issue. all the major problem is only $$$.

cheer

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Everyone got chance to learn how to be a good developer. Developer is not a person but a group of people/profesional. It's not hard to get right person to help out in developing a project. I don't see it is difficult for KP to learn to be a good developer. They worked with a number of well-known developers in the country, they should know how to do. as long as you can pay the money, sure lot of profesional will work for you, team up and make the project succesful.

So I don't see that is a major problem. all the mojor problem is only $$$.

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i understan everyone deserve a chance but every chance has the price . as a purchaser i think i deserve a right to enquire more about the developer ..
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i understan everyone deserve a chance but every chance has the price . as a purchaser i think i deserve a right to enquire more about the developer ..
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Sure....as I said buy property, your own decision. Buy with your comfort....

hahaa...cheer
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QUOTE(wonghs @ Oct 13 2010, 11:29 PM)
for those who book lower floors of SG, please look carefully, first floor IS first level! 288 first floor is on level 6 or 7..


Added on October 13, 2010, 11:31 pmeven when a couple in front of me discussing with the SA on: "dun worry 1st floor is on top of the car park, still ok", the SA just keep quiet. but i know it is wrong!



I went thr on Fri. Is true UOA SA really not prepare well. i think wat their boss told them is to answer "not finalize yet". everything they answer must add in this 3 words. Even got 1 SA "A...." answer question aksi aksi. 1st say follow the big layout hanging on the wire. when my fren calculate the price for psf (280psf for corner! i almost book corner!) so cheap then we double confirmed with her, she also say just follow. 2nd time she say tat big 1 is incorrect, shld follow her sales kit. then 3rd time say follow the size on the price chart! Luckily got other SA help her to answer. so damn confusing! UOA rush to launch until everything "not finalize yet". SA lack of experience also. Not get well prepared then cin-cai cin-cai answer. Then my fren went there the next day. He got shocked when SA informed that final layout size changed! price increase accordingly! suddenly increased RM10K! corner increased RM28K! Who knows when final (duno when...) the price increased RM80K or RM100K?? size from 1300sqft to 1500sqft?? I scared ald... and they din inform the buyer, until my fren saw the price different already then only noticed. So thinking of not to sign SPA. wonder can refund full anot....

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@propertyguy, I rechon sg to be at least fifty thousand lower in price than 288 for the same level, and view, with that 50k I'm sure it can be used for reno right? Zzz its so hard to reply with my phone..


Added on October 13, 2010, 9:10 pm

Ambank confirm got, I heard uoa, maybe, I heard no ocbc, other bank not sure.
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Thats sound good... at lease got 50K xtra for the renovation on my own taste thumbup.gif SG seem better deal o


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I went thr on Fri. Is true UOA SA really not prepare well. i think wat their boss told them is to answer "not finalize yet". everything they answer must add in this 3 words.  Even got 1 SA "A...." answer question aksi aksi. 1st say follow the big layout hanging on the wire. when my fren calculate the price for psf (280psf for corner! i almost book corner!) so cheap then we double confirmed with her, she also say just follow. 2nd time she say tat big 1 is incorrect, shld follow her sales kit. then 3rd time say follow the size on the price chart! Luckily got other SA help her to answer. so damn confusing! UOA rush to launch until everything "not finalize yet". SA lack of experience also. Not get well prepared then cin-cai cin-cai answer. Then my fren went there the next day. He got shocked when SA informed that final layout size changed! price increase accordingly! suddenly increased RM10K! corner increased RM28K! Who knows when final (duno when...) the price increased RM80K or RM100K?? size from 1300sqft to 1500sqft?? I scared ald... and they din inform the buyer, until my fren saw the price different already then only noticed. So thinking of not to sign SPA. wonder can refund full anot....
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Huh... UOA they didn't inform us when the price is up?? mana boleh... if we buy their property must inform us mah... scare scare liao.... if the property increase another 20K then how?? who pay the additional...

Can refund or not the booking fee??? I mean fully refund my 10k or not?

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Thats sound good... at lease got 50K xtra for the renovation on my own taste  thumbup.gif SG seem better deal o


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Huh... UOA they didn't inform us when the price is up?? mana boleh... if we buy their property must inform us mah... scare scare liao.... if the property increase another 20K then how?? who pay the additional...

Can refund or not the booking fee??? I mean fully refund my 10k or not?
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Someone in d thread inform uoa will deduct 1k, but as webby said, legal can be argue many way, as for the price, I'll take the price stated wheN prebook as final. Even if they increase the price (who knows maybe they are allow to do so, haven't read the fine print) I'm sure, it will definitely a full refund, we have the rights to change our mind if they change something not to our liking.

I'm being told the price has been adjusted according to the altered plan on the second day of pre view (sat) I think whatever price u booked will remain (Someone from uoa pls clarify or someone pls make the call...) Ahhhh its hard to type on the phone... ZZz

Price change for the left over unit is possible, supply vs demand, maybe, who knows uoa might drop the price soon, if the demand no good.

Haha

Edit: booking change to prebook

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This discussion of Setapak Green (sometimes 222/288) is getting very constructive and informative.

1. SG is not a sales launch but a Sales preview. The plans are yet to be approved and thus no actual plans and brochures. The rm10K is issued to the stakeholder as an Irrecovable Offer to Purchase for the SG unit and not really a sales booking fee. Clearly stated in there the T&Cs allowing changes including design, size and thus the prices. This practice is not new and is use very often by developers. However, this practice is surprising to me coming from UOA a large reputable developer, which should follow strict adherence to Quality Standards and Compliance.

2. SA lacks a lot of information and being non committal is common under such circumstances other than reading from the sales kit. The specs in the sales kit is very generic from the finishing to light switches and everything else. Can't blame the SA but rather the management who probably decide to do this launch to counter 222/288 which is targeting the same profile purchaser.

3. In terms of view, not all units have the best. The 1st floor for SG is actually the 1st floor (above the facilities floor on ground), and carpark is another complex. This carpark will block the lower floor units if they are facing that direction. Same thing goes for units facing Diamond Sq which will block units up to about 8 floor. However, this is reflected lower prices in view of this compromise.

4. UOA in their artist impression shows landscaping for the monsoon drain to beautify this. Landscaping is OK but wonder how they are going to treat the smell.

Based on the facts above, why are people still jumping so rapidly to prebook their units considering the only freebies are the 7 or 8% discount freebies? Kiasu attitude??? I was expecting more goodies from such Preview launch especially the buyers have to bear with such uncertainties. Uncertainties to the plan, view, loans, finishing, quality etc.

Personally I think 288 (comparison due to close proximity) did a better professional sales job by providing much clarity to their product comparing to UOA this time around. Of course, this does not gauge the ability to execute and the final delivery of the product.

UOA need to buck-up. I think it is time to hear your from your customers.

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Getting customer is hard, losing customer is easy, every one customer u lose, u lose additional 288 customers tongue.gif
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Based on the facts above, why are people still jumping so rapidly to prebook their units considering the only freebies are the 7 or 8% discount freebies? Kiasu attitude??? I was expecting more goodies from such Preview launch especially the buyers have to bear with such uncertainties. Uncertainties to the plan, view, loans, finishing, quality etc.


1) The discount makes people prebook
2) Opportunity cost
3) UOA reputation
4) Kiasu maybe
5) Uncertainties makes heroes flex.gif
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UOA in their artist impression shows landscaping for the monsoon drain to beautify this. Landscaping is OK but wonder how they are going to treat the smell.


Have more plants and it will treat the smell. Durian tree also ok.
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My concern is the density of the properties. Having 400 over unit the particular land, could it be too high ?


222+288=510 is higher.


Added on October 14, 2010, 9:04 amWanna add some link on 2 threads at other site about Setapak green i found on the net, but so far this is the hottest. Here's the link:

Setapak Green Condominium

SETAPAK GREEN CONDO BY UOA

Keep the discussion and facts digging guys, or madam... rclxms.gif

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Getting customer is hard, losing customer is easy, every one customer u lose, u lose additional 288 customers  tongue.gif
1) The discount makes people prebook
2) Opportunity cost
3) UOA reputation
4) Kiasu maybe
5) Uncertainties makes heroes  flex.gif
Have more plants and it will treat the smell. Durian tree also ok.
222+288=510 is higher.


Added on October 14, 2010, 9:04 amWanna add some link on 2 thread at other site about Setapak green i found on the net, but so far this is the hottest. Here's the link:

Setapak Green Condominium

SETAPAK GREEN CONDO BY UOA

Keep the discussion and facts digging guys, or madam... rclxms.gif
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I think people may have been misled about booking (based on firm design and plans) versus prebook (plans, design, finishing, quality, size and others still uncertain). Prebooking have many fine prints including any changes in design and size will have implication on the prices to be absorbed by the purchaser One example is Friday plans after prebooking have been changed overnight on Saturday resulting in higher prices unless UOA is so nice to absorb the costs.

Discounts make people prebook? 288 oso give discount and other freebies but sell based on firm approval plan.

Kiasu attitude is possible as people die die want to buy a certain choice unit so early prebooking solve the problems but cannot have so many choice units mah??? Even looking at carpark or diamond square oso have to prebook??

High Density definitely. If you take 1km radius from SG, you cannot count the number of units coming into the market over the next 3 years. Soho and studio will add thousand of units just above and surrounding upcoming Parkson.

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 14 2010, 11:01 AM)
I think people may have been misled about booking (based on firm design and plans) versus prebook (plans, design, finishing, quality, size and others still uncertain).  Prebooking have many fine prints including any changes in design and size will have implication on the prices to be absorbed by the purchaser One example is Friday plans after prebooking have been changed overnight on Saturday resulting in higher prices unless UOA is so nice to absorb the costs. 
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It happened before for Prima Setapak, book price A, price changed to B, and final purchase price remain price A.

But that is booking, now is pre-book.

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It happened before for Prima Setapak, book price A, price changed to B, and final purchase price remain price A.

But that is booking, now is pre-book.
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Hmmmm........ UOA quality standard like this meh??
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Hmmmm........ UOA quality standard like this meh??
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Oh Price A is actually cheaper than B, got it cheaper somehow. Initially thought its a marketing tactic, but when double check on the price, it really does increase, much like what happening now with SG.

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Oh Price A is actually cheaper than B, got it cheaper somehow. Initially thought its a marketing tactic, but when double check on the price, it really does increase, much like what happening now with SG.
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So those who have booked on friday may get the lower price despite the size getting bigger?? But I don't think they are that nice.

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So those who have booked on friday may get the lower price despite the size getting bigger?? Thank you UOA!!!!
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I'm not sure, but it happened before, and it might happen again.

But it's totally different situation, in Prima Setapak, i think its some mistake by their staff that prompted the wrong price given, and therefore when they readjust, it follow the old price, also, when Prima Setapak time, everything confirm.

Setapak Green, is only a pre-book, nothing concrete, and hopefully we get more info in the next few weeks.

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 14 2010, 11:45 AM)
I'm not sure, but it happened before, and it might happen again.

But it's totally different situation, in Prima Setapak example, everything confirm, i think its some mistake by their staff that prompted the wrong price given, and therefore when they readjust, it follow the old price, also, when Prima Setapak time, everything confirm.

Setapak Green, is only a pre-book, nothing concrete, and hopefully we get more info in the next few weeks.
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So you have been an ardent fan of UOA rite? Lifetime membership or what? biggrin.gif

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the SA told me those friday purchaser might need 2 pay higher due to plan change big :S
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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 14 2010, 12:02 PM)
the SA told me those friday purchaser might need 2 pay higher due to plan change big :S
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The SA told me on Friday (8-10-10), that book now, because tomorrow (Saturday 9-10-10) price increase mad.gif

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hidden830726 urs facing KLCC ma?
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hidden830726 urs facing KLCC ma?
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So called facing Swimming pool, corner.
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oh 18 ah?

urs after 8% got cecah RM400K ma?
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oh 18 ah?

urs after 8% got cecah RM400K ma?
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Got. not level 18 lah.

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i mean unit 18.. mine after 8% no cecah coz mine very low lvl tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 14 2010, 12:18 PM)
i mean unit 18.. mine after 8% no cecah coz mine very low lvl tongue.gif
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Actually i might have slight idea of who u are, in real life.

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 14 2010, 12:18 PM)
i mean unit 18.. mine after 8% no cecah coz mine very low lvl tongue.gif
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unit 18 is not swimming pool view wor....... I think 18 is the exclusive diamond view leh!!!


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oh 18 ah?

urs after 8% got cecah RM400K ma?
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how much psf for your unit after discount?

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haha u know who am i? then i know who u r either tongue.gif

urs is unit 9


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unit 18 is not swimming pool view wor.......  I think 18 is the exclusive diamond view leh!!!


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how much psf for your unit after discount?
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er mine ah?> mine not unit 18 mine is intermediate only....

mine after disc ah?

let me c

is RM299psf coz i count based on 1307sqft tat time on friday



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haha u know who am i? then i know who u r either tongue.gif

urs is unit 9


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er mine ah?> mine not unit 18 mine is intermediate only....

mine after disc ah?

let me c

is RM299psf coz i count based on 1307sqft tat time on friday
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Good entry price but surely UOA can still afford some goodies when their plans are finalised to show their sincere appreciation for the prebookers support of SG. Also the free publicity they get from this site.
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Lets keep the unit to ourself. It's best that we remain some secrecy on the net. :-)

Good, as well as bad publicity from this thread.. hahaha

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 14 2010, 12:31 PM)
Good entry price but surely UOA can still afford some goodies when their plans are finalised to show their sincere appreciation for the prebookers support of SG.  Also the free publicity they get from this site.
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must claim some stuff from them back hahaha


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Lets keep the unit to ourself. It's best that we remain some secrecy on the net. :-)

Good, as well as bad publicity from this thread.. hahaha
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PM something 2u... so tolong help


Added on October 14, 2010, 12:38 pmto hidden... thanks.

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anyone here paid for the 10k earnest booking fee?
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ya some of us...

r u kar fai?
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anyone here paid for the 10k earnest booking fee?
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Thought is prebooking requirement. Is this optional?
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yup. paid. why? anything le?
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Also, why 10k, others. Booking 5k only.... QQ
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UOA allow transfer of name when signing S&P or not?
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remember this is not a booking
this is the payment for stake holder with inrevocable terms.
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remember this is not a booking
this is the payment for stake holder with inrevocable terms.
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so if UOA increase the prices to rm 500 psf we also kena bulat bulat sign the S&P otherwise we lose the 10K. Sound very one sided the irrevocable offer to purchase.
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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 14 2010, 05:41 PM)
so if UOA increase the prices to rm 500 psf we also kena bulat bulat sign the S&P otherwise we lose the 10K.  Sound very one sided the irrevocable offer to purchase.
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well, paper memang write like tat
but my SA who served me said if tak ngam boleh refund but din say full refund or partial refund wo.
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well, paper memang write like tat
but my SA who served me said if tak ngam boleh refund but din say full refund or partial refund wo.
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Talk to a few purchaser and they seriously considering of pulling out when come to signing the S&P. Many has been misled to believe that it was really a privileged booking. SA never explained that they will have to sign this irrevocable offer to purchase with all the fine prints. After you pay the 10K they ask you to sign the documents. No one explain the legalities of such documents.

Really unprofessional of UOA an established company to do this. Why can't they launch after all the approvals been done. Ah Beng company will use such tactics but they will give lots of freebies and goodies.


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Have faith have faith, being a public listing company, they have social responsibilities to ensure fair dealing in its businesses.

I'm sure they can work on something. positive positive.
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Have faith have faith, being a public listing company, they have social responsibilities to ensure fair dealing in its businesses.

I'm sure they can work on something. positive positive.
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Anyway, the sooner they have clarity on SG the better otherwise, people may move on to buy other properties within the vicinity or elsewhere.
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To UOA, can u get your PR or representative to reply our enquiries here?
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Have faith have faith, being a public listing company, they have social responsibilities to ensure fair dealing in its businesses.

I'm sure they can work on something. positive positive.
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Why you say public listed company. The Irrevocable offer to purchase is under Sagaharta Sdn Bhd wor.....??? UOA wasn't mentioned at all.


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To UOA, can u get your PR or representative to reply our enquiries here?
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About time they read about all the concerns here.


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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 14 2010, 06:15 PM)
Why you say public listed company.  The Irrevocable offer to purchase is under Sagaharta Sdn Bhd wor.....???  UOA wasn't mentioned at all.


Added on October 14, 2010, 6:16 pmAbout time they read about all the concerns here.
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Sagaharta or not, its UOA reputation on the firing line here.

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Sagaharta or not, its UOA reputation on the firing line here.
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Just check the 2006 UOA Ltd Annual Report, Sagaharta Sdn Bhd is 100% owned by UOA development berhad. See they don't explain this when booking is done.
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I encourage those who are interested in this topic to share their views or opinions. Register a lowyat.net account if u need to, it is to the best interest of everyone.
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is no use we fire up here if really wan, gather all the purchaser and ask UOA 1 short
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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 14 2010, 06:45 PM)
I encourage those who are interested in this topic to share their views or opinions. Register a lowyat.net account if u need to, it is to the best interest of everyone.
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Brudder, many people prefer to be silent reader. They want information but not willing to contribute. No need to bother lar....... smile.gif If they are interested, they will know what to do.


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is no use we fire up here if really wan, gather all the purchaser and ask UOA 1 short
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Wah 1Malaysia spirit!!!! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 14 2010, 07:28 PM)
Brudder, many people prefer to be silent reader. They want information but not willing to contribute.  No need to bother lar....... smile.gif  If they are interested, they will know what to do.


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Wah 1Malaysia spirit!!!!  biggrin.gif
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my understanding is that it is our offer to UOA thru the lawyer at the purchase price indicated in the said letter. UOA should only accept our offer purchase price as stated. If UOA wanted to raise the price/sq ft, that mean they are not accepting our offer price, but instead UOA is counter-offer us at revised price. In this case, we have to right not to accept.
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QUOTE(ngkf @ Oct 14 2010, 09:01 PM)
my understanding is that it is our offer to UOA thru the lawyer at the purchase price indicated in the said letter. UOA should only accept our offer purchase price as stated. If UOA wanted to raise the price/sq ft, that mean they are not accepting our offer price, but instead UOA is counter-offer us at revised price. In this case, we have to right not to accept.
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After reading through the "Irrevocable offer to purchase property" for the first time, the above seems correct. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(ngkf @ Oct 14 2010, 09:01 PM)
my understanding is that it is our offer to UOA thru the lawyer at the purchase price indicated in the said letter. UOA should only accept our offer purchase price as stated. If UOA wanted to raise the price/sq ft, that mean they are not accepting our offer price, but instead UOA is counter-offer us at revised price. In this case, we have to right not to accept.
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U r rite. So you have the rite to a full refund.


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After reading through the "Irrevocable offer to purchase property" for the first time, the above seems correct.  rclxms.gif
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see if we have not debated here people don't seem to know what they have sign. Good job guys.

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wha..... so many unconfirm things by SG..... then i shld consider 288 liao, better change boat....
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wha..... so many unconfirm things by SG..... then i shld consider 288 liao, better change boat....
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hahaha........ as long as the other boat don't capsize
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hahaha........ as long as the other boat don't capsize
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SG & 288, which one shld i go for? Purpose for own stay.
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I'm still having high confident for UOA to deliver one of their best project...
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SG & 288, which one shld i go for? Purpose for own stay.
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If you have not book, then go visit the sales office. Which one still have units that meet your requirement then go for it unless you don't care what floor and facing. Other factors such as reputation and reliability of developer, your call.
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I'm still having high confident for UOA to deliver one of their best project...
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Hi hidden830726,
I am new about property, can i have some reference of UOA project that they built before? Condo name?
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I'm still having high confident for UOA to deliver one of their best project...
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Deliver the project quite firm. Deliver a quality project better than 288 (fair comparison as same locality, almost same price), I have my doubts. UOA have to prove it.
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QUOTE(ng168 @ Oct 14 2010, 10:14 PM)
SG & 288, which one shld i go for? Purpose for own stay.
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imo, 288 more for soho, newly wed, couple, etc

SG is more for Family, older couple etc.

Also, 288 1 carpark given, while SG give 2.

freebies i reckon almost the same (if UOA deliver), also, the diff in price between 288 and SG (same level, same view) will allow renovation


If im u, i will get SG, SG got garden, after a stressfulday of work, Garden seems perfect. cool2.gif


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Hi hidden830726,
I am new about property, can i have some reference of UOA project that they built before? Condo name?
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Prima Setapak, Prima Setapak II, Plaza Prima Setapak, etc

See here: http://www.uoa.com.my/track_residential.php



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imo, 288 more for soho, newly wed, couple, etc

SG is more for Family, older couple etc.

Are you implying that SG will deliver an outdated condo design and 288 ultra modern design? Mmmmmm....... wrong boat again?
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QUOTE(ngkf @ Oct 14 2010, 09:01 PM)
my understanding is that it is our offer to UOA thru the lawyer at the purchase price indicated in the said letter. UOA should only accept our offer purchase price as stated. If UOA wanted to raise the price/sq ft, that mean they are not accepting our offer price, but instead UOA is counter-offer us at revised price. In this case, we have to right not to accept.
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Actually this is my worry as well.. I actually listen to the SA that i may seek refund if i am not interested end of the day. But after that when i read through the letter, the title is irrevocable offer to purchase and the when i read thorugh the letter it states that the developer has the rights to "alter" anything. As such, i am doubting whether the monies can be refunded if i go for cancellation. Anyhow i think the letter is not comprehensive but a bit one sided to the benefit of the developer. is there any lawyer around who can advise us ?


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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 14 2010, 10:25 PM)
Are you implying that SG will deliver an outdated condo design and 288 ultra modern design?  Mmmmmm....... wrong boat again?
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That's what i can see so far, im not convince that UOA will change the SG facade too much, it gonna cost them too much in terms of resources. More realistic thing is to improve the interior fittings.

Ultra modern design will help reselling value, but if you are gonna stay, its better for some quality fittings to begin with.
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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 14 2010, 10:22 PM)
imo, 288 more for soho, newly wed, couple, etc

SG is more for Family, older couple etc.

Also, 288 1 carpark given, while SG give 2.

freebies i reckon almost the same (if UOA deliver), also, the diff in price between 288 and SG (same level, same view) will allow renovation
If im u, i will get SG, SG got garden, after a stressfulday of work, Garden seems perfect.  cool2.gif


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Prima Setapak, Prima Setapak II, Plaza Prima Setapak, etc

See here: http://www.uoa.com.my/track_residential.php
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Quality wise....both can delivery good one.

Price wise...both are almost the same.


Enty cost wise....KP offers you low entry while UOA still need you to fork out more for dwonpayment.

Game is so easy...if you're not willing to fork out more downpayment, go for KP otherwise go for UOA.

the different downpayment for a unit between kp and uoa can allow u purchase another carpark in kp's condo. (if the carpark price is not over 25k each.


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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 14 2010, 10:22 PM)
imo, 288 more for soho, newly wed, couple, etc

SG is more for Family, older couple etc.

Also, 288 1 carpark given, while SG give 2.

freebies i reckon almost the same (if UOA deliver), also, the diff in price between 288 and SG (same level, same view) will allow renovation
If im u, i will get SG, SG got garden, after a stressfulday of work, Garden seems perfect.  cool2.gif


Added on October 14, 2010, 10:24 pm

Prima Setapak, Prima Setapak II, Plaza Prima Setapak, etc

See here: http://www.uoa.com.my/track_residential.php
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For good track records, one need to have at least the following besides completing the project:

1. Maintenance and upkeep of the Condo
2. Wide facilities provided in the condo
3. The security and safety aspect
4. The parking orientation (some haphazard, narrow, dark, low ceiling), enough visitor parking. Some developer sells even the visitor carpark.
5. Condo design and finishing/furnishing - some very low cost with outdated design, some look like low / medium cost apartment
6. Tasteful landscaping and Aesthetics
7. Proper enforcements

Now which of UOA condo meets the above criteria? I really don't know. Can anyone who has experience with UOA condo comment?


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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 14 2010, 10:37 PM)
Quality wise....both can delivery good one.

Price wise...both are almost the same.
Enty cost wise....KP offers you low entry while UOA still need you to fork out more for dwonpayment.

Game is so easy...if you're not willing to fork out more downpayment, go for KP otherwise go for UOA.

the different downpayment for a unit between kp and uoa can allow u purchase another carpark in kp's condo. (if the carpark price is not over 25k each.
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I though KP is not selling any carpark? ARe they selling off the visitors carpark just like many Ah Beng developer with no visitors carpark? If KP do this, they are not doing justice to other residents staying there.


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Actually this is my worry as well.. I actually listen to the SA that i may seek refund if i am not interested end of the day. But after that when i read through the letter, the title is irrevocable offer to purchase and the when i read thorugh the letter it states that the developer has the rights to "alter" anything. As such, i am doubting whether the monies can be refunded if i go for cancellation. Anyhow i think the letter is not comprehensive but a bit one sided to the benefit of the developer. is there any lawyer around who can advise us ?
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They have the right not to refund you if they did not breach the T&Cs. That is clear. So it depends whether they want to do it in good faith.


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For good track records, one need to have at least the following besides completing the project:

1.  Maintenance and upkeep of the Condo
2.  Wide facilities provided in the condo
3.  The security and safety aspect
4.  The parking orientation (some haphazard, narrow, dark, low ceiling), enough visitor parking.  Some developer sells even the visitor carpark.
5.  Condo design and finishing/furnishing - some very low cost with outdated design, some look like low / medium cost apartment
6.  Tasteful landscaping and Aesthetics
7.  Proper enforcements

Now which of UOA condo meets the above criteria?  I really don't know.  Can anyone who has experience with UOA condo comment?
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All the above mentioned should be met by $$$. lol

Be prepared to pay more for maintenance fees and sinking funds before you're expecting much more better upkeep.

288 and 222 - first two years maintenace fee will be charged at RM0.15 per sq ft. third year unknown.

222 units of average size of 1,000 sq ft each, should be 222,000 sq ft x 0.15 = RM33,300
I'm not sure RM33,300 enough to cover the utility bills, landscaping, garden, swimming pool maintenance, guards' fee, property manager, clerk, plumber & etc.
for new condo, it should be ok...said
utilities bills one month = RM5,000,
guards' fee = RM9,000 (6 persons for 3 shifts *haha RM1,500 each salary to new grad* allowance for good one),
Gardener/upkeeper = RM2,000 (2 persons)
Clerk = RM1,200 (1 person)
Plumber = RM1,500 ( 1 person)
Property Manager = RM5,000 (1 person)
Swimming pool, safety equipment, lifts and building inspection, garbage collection and etc regular checking said RM3,000 per month

total RM25,700

seem like still got extra ya.


UOA - maintenance fee (anyone can share?)


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oral representation by the sale rep is also a valid contract and form part of the contract although it might be on the weak side. It almost clear that every buyers signing up the letter were being informed by the sale rep that the deposit is refundable in any case before signing S&P.

I guess most major developers wont be very strict or wanted to forfeit your little money in the expense of their goodwill and reputation. Of course when it has a good take up rate. This is what I heard most other developers will normally refund that "booking fee"
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[quote=webby88,Oct 14 2010, 10:41 PM]

[QUOTE]Now which of UOA condo meets the above criteria? I really don't know. Can anyone who has experience with UOA condo comment?
I though KP is not selling any carpark? ARe they selling off the visitors carpark just like many Ah Beng developer with no visitors carpark? If KP do this, they are not doing justice to other residents staying there.[/QUOTE]

haha....mana mana developer also selling carparks. actually visitor carparks should not be sold as it will be part of JMB.

building cost of carpark now is expensive.

DBKL 's planning guideline for building condo should be 2 carpark for one unit plus 20% of visitors' carpark, however, developer will only attached a unit of carpark to the purchased unit, any extra carpark, they might sell to you.

buy if you got offer carpark as it can help you to generate income. kekeke

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oral representation by the sale rep is also a valid contract and form part of the contract although it might be on the weak side. It almost clear that every buyers signing up the letter were being informed by the sale rep that the deposit is refundable in any case before signing S&P.

I guess most major developers wont be very strict or wanted to forfeit your little money in the expense of their goodwill and reputation. Of course when it has a good take up rate. This is what I heard most other developers will normally refund that "booking fee"
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True. so lets not worry about booking fees...
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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 14 2010, 11:08 PM)
DBKL 's planning guideline for building condo should be 2 carpark for one unit

Is this mandatory or just guideline. Hate to see cars park all over outside of 222/288 .


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True. so lets not worry about booking fees...
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U shud not worry unless you have intention to withdraw. smile.gif

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Is this mandatory or just guideline.  Hate to see cars park all over outside of 222/288 .
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ask your architect or planner. lol


normally can appeal, but lack 1 carpark = RM60k fine...dulu RM15k
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ask your architect or planner. lol
normally can appeal, but lack 1 carpark = RM60k fine...dulu RM15k
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OK. I hope this implementation by DBKL is real. Otherwise the whole of Setapak between Danau Kota and P Ramlee will be like a big car yard. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 14 2010, 11:21 PM)
OK.  I hope this implementation by DBKL is real. Otherwise the whole of Setapak between Danau Kota and P Ramlee will be like a big car yard.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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no hope la....carpark always no enough in klang valley especially highrise residential development.

be prepared, tonnes of carparks along the roadside.

955 units x 2.5 cars each unit = 2388 cars

955 units x 3.5 cars each unit = 3342 cars.


lol

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no hope la....carpark always no enough in klang valley especially highrise residential development.

be prepared, tonnes of carparks along the roadside.

955 units x 2.5 cars each unit = 2388 cars

955 units x 3.5 cars each unit  = 3342 cars.
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any idea SG have how many parking bays, residents and visitors?
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SG & 288, which one shld i go for? Purpose for own stay.
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imo, 288 more for soho, newly wed, couple, etc

SG is more for Family, older couple etc.

Also, 288 1 carpark given, while SG give 2.

freebies i reckon almost the same (if UOA deliver), also, the diff in price between 288 and SG (same level, same view) will allow renovation
If im u, i will get SG, SG got garden, after a stressfulday of work, Garden seems perfect.  cool2.gif


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Prima Setapak, Prima Setapak II, Plaza Prima Setapak, etc

See here: http://www.uoa.com.my/track_residential.php
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wat u give is only setapak area
give something better

Binjai 8 residence,
The Park Residence,

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any idea SG have how many parking bays, residents and visitors?
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UOA, come answer.
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UOA, come answer.
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singkiri kerak la....

24 floors X 18 units X 2 each unit = 864 car parks
20% of 864 = 173k
total = 1037 car parks??? agak agak? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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With all the free publicity SG and 288 is getting here, anyone have any idea the latest take up rate of these properties?

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weby88 SG KLCC View mostly takenup
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Who gonna call uoa?
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Negotiate the freebies!!!
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do you guys know how is the garden that SG going to deliver? i hope not couples or chairs with flower pot beside. smile.gif

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do you guys know how is the garden that SG going to deliver? i hope not couples or chairs with flower pot beside. smile.gif
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The garden is anybody's guess. SA said that it is first of its kind but if a couple of chairs, den become an eyesore lar........ Idea wise is good but proper maintenance is important.

I was asking the SA why the pool is not elevated as infinity pool is the trend nowadays. I suppose UOA is trying to save costs on the car park structure since they have sufficient land to squeeze on the ground level. Outdated and primitive concepts.

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yup, infinity pool will be great, UOA, do this, i promise u, if u do this, i'll be UOA ambassador for life:-)

so far, looking at the latest budget, nothing much about property except the stamping 50% excemption, any comment? or i miss something?

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 15 2010, 06:46 PM)
yup, infinity pool will be great, UOA, do this, i promise u, if u do this, i'll be UOA ambassador for life:-)

so far, looking at the latest budget, nothing much about property except the stamping 50% excemption, any comment? or i miss something?
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ini orang sikarang stay in UOA condo non stop dowan denial UOA is bad lol rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif




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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 15 2010, 06:46 PM)
yup, infinity pool will be great, UOA, do this, i promise u, if u do this, i'll be UOA ambassador for life:-)

so far, looking at the latest budget, nothing much about property except the stamping 50% excemption, any comment? or i miss something?
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If they do this, unit 9 will not longer be pool view. Unit 1 and 16 will increase in prices. Hahahaha...... No way Jose!!!!


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ini orang sikarang stay in UOA condo non stop dowan denial UOA is bad lol rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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UOA is bad becos they are not able to come up with the latest trendy design. The prices is way too high for such outdated design. Happy with my statement?

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haha good statement webby
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Hi guys,
I am going to the show unit of 288 tomoro & sale office of SG, have to do decide for which liao. ....hm.... still "heart big heart small" leh.

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Hi guys,
I am going to the show unit of 288 tomoro & sale office of SG, have to do decide for which liao. ....hm.... still "heart big heart small" leh.
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Own stay easier to decide.

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Own stay easier to decide.
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Just to get some opinion, what i shld take note when signing S&P? After loan approve then i hav to go to the developer myself or how?
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eveyrthing not finalize yet
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Just to get some opinion, what i shld take note when signing S&P? After loan approve then i hav to go to the developer myself or how?
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This one is easy. Just ask the SA, they can brief you on the entire process.


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eveyrthing not finalize yet
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what is not finalized yet?

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eh? the plan, the price, the layout all finalize leow?
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eh? the plan, the price, the layout all finalize leow?
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Not so fast I think. Maybe December.
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i see that there will be very bad parking problem in that area
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Not so fast I think.  Maybe December.
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that why now even take loan pun tak boleh buat apa lo

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that why now even take loan pun tak boleh buat apa lo
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That's why you still can make noise to UOA to improve the design or furnishing for your units. Tell them to read the comments here. Who knows maybe they give you another carpark or 5 star furnishing or improvements in design.
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That's why you still can make noise to UOA to improve the design or furnishing for your units.  Tell them to read the comments here. Who knows maybe they give you another carpark or 5 star furnishing or improvements in design.
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mana boleh...hahaha.....once >50% taken-up..sure developer "choy lei dou so".


fast fast decide...death match SG VS 288....where you go......
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mana boleh...hahaha.....once >50% taken-up..sure developer "choy lei dou so".
fast fast decide...death match SG VS 288....where you go......
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still can pull out mah....... S&P not sign yet. If another developer launch in One Step (setapak) locality with better offer, I think many will withdraw. So UOA booking is not so firm.

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still can pull out mah....... S&P not sign yet.  If another developer launch in One Step (setapak) locality with better offer, I think many will withdraw.  So UOA booking is not so firm.
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hahaha...i could say...limited supply...UOA's SG still can sell even though to me it is not attractive at all compare to 288.

next launch would be Zeta park phase 2 and phase 3.



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zetapark? launch leow meh?
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hahaha...i could say...limited supply...UOA's SG still can sell even though to me it is not attractive at all compare to 288.

next launch would be Zeta park phase 2 and phase 3.
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I think Zeta park is better for investment as the units r much smaller, though the price psf maybe higher. However this may add thousands of studios or sohos into OneStep locality and digestion will take a while. Zeta is slated to launch early next year and that may be reason why SG is prelaunch to "sell" ahead of time. If UOA can sell, look at Setapak Prima II, I heard there are still developers unit for sale still just around the same vicinity. Even if they manage to clear all the units in SP II, that took a few years to complete the sale of the units.
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tat PSII in Gombak u mean?
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tat PSII in Gombak u mean?
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UOA Prima Setapak II.

BTW, is the SG address Setapak or Gombak?

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UOA Prima Setapak II is the Jln Gombak tat 1 right? Next to CHong Hwa tat 1 hor?

Konon nye the SG should b under Setapak coz the land is under Mukim Setapak wo..
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UOA Prima Setapak II is the Jln Gombak tat 1 right? Next to CHong Hwa tat 1 hor?

Konon nye the SG should b under Setapak coz the land is under Mukim Setapak wo..
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But they are nearby to each other, freehold status by the same developer. One of the track record of UOA.

Anyway, potential buyer of SG should hope UOA will not be providing the same finishing as Prima Setapak II. Looks like medium cost apartment by today's standard based on the "New" pricing benchmark.

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But they are nearby to each other, freehold status by the same developer.  One of the track record of UOA. 

Anyway, potential buyer of SG should hope UOA will not be providing the same finishing as Prima Setapak II. Looks like medium cost apartment by today's standard based on the "New" pricing benchmark.
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hopefully they can do something good compare to 288

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hopefully they can do something good compare to 288
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For the steep pricing UOA is charging, it is best to make sure that they deliver quality specs before signing the S&P. Once signed cannot withdraw leow.
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For the steep pricing UOA is charging, it is best to make sure that they deliver quality specs before signing the S&P.  Once signed cannot withdraw leow.
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Uoa got sg's show unit?

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apa pun tarak
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apa pun tarak
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Apa pun tarak but preview launch so successful.

What's wrong with people nowadays. So willing to part with their hard earned $$.
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Got money to park mah...haha


Added on October 17, 2010, 9:09 pmGot money to park mah...haha



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Got money to park mah...haha

Buyer thinks at this price still got upside. However, with so many units coming in the vicinity, it will take time for the consumption.
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Buyer thinks at this price still got upside. However, with so many units coming in the vicinity, it will take time for the consumption.
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hhehe....noone can tell. just let time to tell.

webby, decided to go for which project? or just forget about setapak area project, aim for other part of KL.

keke
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hhehe....noone can tell. just let time to tell.

webby, decided to go for which project? or just forget about setapak area project, aim for other part of KL.

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Keep the options open.  Will see how it goes.
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Same.

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This project launch ?
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This project launch ?
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Preview launch already.

Details can be found in the earlier post.
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Preview launch already.

Details can be found in the earlier post.
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I suggest cyber reedit the 1st post to include some of the confirm details of the project, so it is easier for ppl those information seeker to read through. It would be painful to go through 16 pages.

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I suggest cyber reedit the 1st post to include some of the confirm details of the project, so it is easier for ppl those information seeker to read through. It would be painful to go through 16 pages.
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Great suggestion but I hope it don't turn out to UOA advantage for free marketing and advertisement. It should remain a forum whereby the pros and cons debate should continue without prejudice.

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can the road leading in and out to SG and 222 + 288 support the car volume ? not to mention that road leading in is commercial area and with Diamond Residence around... really doubt that road can support that much traffic volume...
inside 222 + 288 somemore got lotsa low cost house pengsan even can think that area worth 500k today and able to sell 700-800k in future ?
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QUOTE(babylabbit @ Oct 18 2010, 11:20 AM)
can the road leading in and out to SG and 222 + 288 support the car volume ? not to mention that road leading in is commercial area and with Diamond Residence around... really doubt that road can support that much traffic volume...
inside 222 + 288 somemore got lotsa low cost house pengsan even can think that area worth 500k today and able to sell 700-800k in future ?
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you have your point.

Currently Diamond Square are half dead, not many people around. The only time jam is during morning peak hours where jln Gombak are jam.




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QUOTE(babylabbit @ Oct 18 2010, 11:20 AM)
can the road leading in and out to SG and 222 + 288 support the car volume ? not to mention that road leading in is commercial area and with Diamond Residence around... really doubt that road can support that much traffic volume...
inside 222 + 288 somemore got lotsa low cost house pengsan even can think that area worth 500k today and able to sell 700-800k in future ?
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i) technically, it can support the traffic load, hence the approval for development of those high rises. but personally, even IF it can cater, the traffic wont be smooth and thats not even taking into account cars that park outside the buildings.
ii) theoretically, properties will increase in price. But to know how much it'll increase is impossible unless u can see the future or u drive a Delorean tongue.gif
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Great suggestion but I hope it don't turn out to UOA advantage for free marketing and advertisement. It should remain a forum whereby the pros and cons debate should continue without prejudice.


Well, its a forum for discussion, but i'm sure people would appreciate brief summary on the projects (Setapak green & 288) in the first page for easier reference. Refer back 16 pages for information and argument / dissatisfaction, is not doing potential buyer / investor any favor either. Just my two cent. Maybe can quote some good argument on both side (good & bad) in the first post.

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can the road leading in and out to SG and 222 + 288 support the car volume ? not to mention that road leading in is commercial area and with Diamond Residence around... really doubt that road can support that much traffic volume...
inside 222 + 288 somemore got lotsa low cost house pengsan even can think that area worth 500k today and able to sell 700-800k in future ?


Are they gonna widening the road / entrance lead to the area, i read somewhere in this post, there gonna be another new entrance. 550 - 600k is definitely possible. Setapak is going through a boom in development. Mark my word :-)

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Currently Diamond Square are half dead, not many people around. The only time jam is during morning peak hours where jln Gombak are jam.


Yup, and these projects gonna revive / resurrect / rebirth Diamond Square...

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i) technically, it can support the traffic load, hence the approval for development of those high rises. but personally, even IF it can cater, the traffic wont be smooth and thats not even taking into account cars that park outside the buildings.
ii) theoretically, properties will increase in price. But to know how much it'll increase is impossible unless u can see the future or u drive a Delorean


Side effect of development. ha. The more traffic the more appreciation. I rather suffering from jam, and seeing the property benefit from it. rclxms.gif

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Any idea whether SG will block the KLCC view of Prima Setapak II? I am thinking of either SG or PS II icon_rolleyes.gif
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Any idea whether SG will block the KLCC view of Prima Setapak II? I am thinking of either SG or PS II icon_rolleyes.gif
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After looking at the google map, i say possible, but it depends to SG layout, which we are not sure yet.

Close up Sg & 288 - Google Map
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550-600k ? that is the cost of today for entry level of SG or 288
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550-600k ? that is the cost of today for entry level of SG or 288
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Sorry for the confusion, i mean 550 - 600k of reselling value, not developer selling price.
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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 18 2010, 12:21 PM)

Are they gonna widening the road / entrance lead to the area, i read somewhere in this post, there gonna be another new entrance. 550 - 600k is definitely possible. Setapak is going through a boom in development. Mark my word :-)
I don't think SG will have another new entrance though in artist impression it was shown as a small gate. However, the SA of UOA is very tightlipped when I query about this. It looks like a back or emergency entrance/exit. In fact most condo do not have 2 entrances/exits due to higher costs in security as well.

Great to see you are optimistic about the property value in Setapak. In fact, for new luxurious condo development within 10km from KL city, I believe it will breached the 500psf sooner than later. At this point, need to see if UOA can deliver some luxury to SG.



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it would be ease some traffic if the 2nd gate is open. may be they can set the open time, say from morning to 10pm something like that.


Added on October 18, 2010, 5:22 pmQuestion: Is it norm that nowadys banks do not bear or absorb legal fee & stamp duty on loan agreements?

I thought it is quite competitive for banks to secure housing mortgage. I used to have zero entry for bank loans.

Called one of SG bank panel, CIMB - loan arrangements btw UOA and banks not finalised yet. But it looks more like buyers will need to bear the legal fee & stamp duty on loan agreements.

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QUOTE(ngkf @ Oct 18 2010, 05:19 PM)
it would be ease some traffic if the 2nd gate is open. may be they can set the open time, say from morning to 10pm something like that.


Added on October 18, 2010, 5:22 pmQuestion: Is it norm that nowadys banks do not bear or absorb legal fee & stamp duty on loan agreements?

I thought it is quite competitive for banks to secure housing mortgage. I used to have zero entry for bank loans.

Called one of SG bank panel, CIMB - loan arrangements btw UOA and banks not finalised yet. But it looks more like buyers will need to bear the legal fee & stamp duty on loan agreements.
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ok will try to compile and summarize all the pro/con fact and edit the 1st page

yesterday i went bangsarsouth kepoh again...
guess wat
KLCC view almost all gone except 1st floor

Genting VIew????

BYK!!!!! ask them got any progress? Answer = APA PUN TARAK

so i ask my SA back....

RM10k... sikarang hor... bank interest hor 2.5% hor... so u took our 10k hor go park 3 months

so hor RM10k 1 year = RM250 so 3 months = RM62.5 gone leow for interest.... apa boleh bikin???? can treat 1 meal or not or free 1 more access card????

answer = SMILE only....

GRRRRRRR!!! geram ah~!
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haha. ask them to use the RM62.5 times X unit pre booked money to improve the project la, give more value for money.

wait till they offer more discount for those Genting "klang" view, go snap another one lo. i cant afford already, but if u can, why not? if u know what u are doing thumbup.gif

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a week time after soft launch they take down the prices on the board, just like what 288 is doing. possibly increasing price base while still say giving 7% discount.

take up rate may go up after getting advertising permit and do mass advertisement.


Added on October 18, 2010, 5:54 pmat least 4 panel banks quoted by them - cimb, uoa, ambank, ??. Two Bank reps were present at the day of preview Oct 10.

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 18 2010, 01:55 PM)
After looking at the google map, i say possible, but it depends to SG layout, which we are not sure yet.

Close up Sg & 288 - Google Map
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Sounds like SG is a better buy for a clear view of KLCC. Too bad for PS II buyers whom will be losing their view of KLCC soon. Since both projects are by UOA, I wonder if they are considerate enough not to block the KLCC view of PS II hmm.gif
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Difficult la Wooda.
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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 18 2010, 05:34 PM)
ok will try to compile and summarize all the pro/con fact and edit the 1st page

very good.

This site seems to have the most comprehensive information about Setapak Green and 222/288.

Please make comparison between the 2 projects as well.


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Need more confirmation.. More argument, more comment, more suggestion, and more SMILEY :-)
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Need more confirmation.. More argument, more comment, more suggestion, and more SMILEY :-)
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Confirmation only December lar.....!!! Now only speculation.
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hidden830726 hi,what floor you both ?i just only booking in last 2day...hehe
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So KLCC view is the better choice?
hmm.... another RM50K.
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QUOTE(penn @ Oct 18 2010, 11:40 PM)
So KLCC view is the better choice?
hmm.... another RM50K.
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why rm50K?
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why rm50K?
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coz no more low floor ma. gombak view stil got lower floor to chose. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(penn @ Oct 19 2010, 12:06 AM)
coz no more low floor ma. gombak view stil got lower floor to chose.  biggrin.gif
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anyone knows if the prices are still the same as when the preview started?
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personally, i think klcc view are overrated. mine below 10 floor


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QUOTE(carlhoe @ Oct 18 2010, 11:32 PM)
frankly speaking i have just bought a unit near mont kiara with delivering roughly same package as given by 288. so i think SG might be not in the right way to approach the buyer as almost all buyer looking for something with lower capital cost. In fact, even those so called 'free stuff' is included in the mark up, is good to us that we could sell the house later on based on the higher mark up in our s&p, rigth?
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yup, the selling price in 288 S&P is the price before discount right? so selling price higher, therefore resell value going to be higher right?

SG, S&P price, = selling price - discount, is it better or no good compare 288? (Edit: Sg to 288, typo)

Or my above understanding is wrong?

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 19 2010, 12:09 AM)
anyone knows if the prices are still the same as when the preview started?
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I tested one unit last sat and seems the same price still. with price not on the board now, uoa is free to adjust the prices at their will and based on take up rate secured.


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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 19 2010, 01:00 AM)
personally, i think klcc view are overrated. mine below 10 floor


Added on October 19, 2010, 1:08 am

yup, the selling price in 288 S&P is the price before discount right? so selling price higher, therefore resell value going to be higher right?

SG, S&P price, = selling price - discount, is it better or no good compare Sg?

Or my above understanding is wrong?
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my view is, a discount/rebate outside S&P is quite common and mainly to enable buyer to secure higher margin of bank financing and minimise the downpayment needed from buyers. I dont think mark up the S&P price will help pushing the price as buyers value the house by market value / sq ft.

giving 288 is of higher price, rebate outside S&P will help buyers to folk out less money. UOA SG discount is net of S&P price. may be better corporate governance given uoa is a listed co in au? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 19 2010, 01:00 AM)


yup, the selling price in 288 S&P is the price before discount right? so selling price higher, therefore resell value going to be higher right?

SG, S&P price, = selling price - discount, is it better or no good compare 288?

Or my above understanding is wrong?
Given the close proximity of SG and 288, the ultimate resale value would depends on the final delivery of the product such as:

1. Which built quality is better such as finishing and workmanship?
2. What furnishing comes with the units?
3. What facilities available and the ambiance of the surrounding?
4. Which gives a better luxury feel such as the lobby design?
5. How many parking comes with the units?
6. The maintenance quality and charges
7. Access to the units? If SG got 2 access points then slightly better.

Right now, nothing to compare as SG has nothing confirmed except for 2 carparks.

What happen if SG provides a show unit with finishing that is far from 288? Immediately, one will bet that the resale value of 288 is better. The buyers will probably feel shortchange. Anyway just an "if" scenario but a point to ponder.


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Right now, nothing to compare as SG has nothing confirmed except for 2 carparks.


1) SG got rooftop garden, hence more greenary.
2) SG nearer to the main road
3) SG nearer to the shop lots (this is fairly important when you take consideration for reselling value)

Here's my comparison between 288 & SG so far, feel free to use the same format (or add in additional criteria) with your views:

Location

288 < SG

Fittings & design

288> SG (pending SG to release their details)

Price

288 = SG (I see both fairly equal)

Investment

288 > SG

Self staying

288 < SG

Facilities

288 = SG (288 indoor pool, which i prefer, vs SG rooftop garden)

Scenary & View

288 < SG

Reputation

288 < SG

Marketing approach & Confidents giving

288 > SG


Added on October 19, 2010, 10:39 amThis thread is going second page... lol

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To me SG+222+288+Diamond Residency location is equally the same. all within walking distance. so it is nothing big deal if your condo was the nearest to shoplots .

there are shoplots at the ground floor of 222 serv. apartment and the shoplots are to be retained by developer (as informed). I don't know what kind of shops will be there, but probably food and beverage and convenient shop only to serve the residents better. with this, 288 also can consider nearer to the shoplots as well..haha...plus those shoplots in prima setapak area. LOL.

concept wise...SG is more green. Lot of people like green, and they will automatically link this green feature to family delights. so the general rule, young people like 288, family suite to SG..LOL....haha...who rules this??? how many people would really enjoy these green feature after working/ during weekend? Titiwangsa lake park is just nearby.

well, good development projects always been taken up fast. As long as these 2 projects still got units for sale, you still can make your choices.

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It's all personal preference i guess.

Those shoplots in prima setapak is driving distance la, not walking distance.

I'm sure people enjoy grenary but they don't realise it. Greenary is getting lesser and lesser in KL, imo the roof garden is not game breaking, but definitely worth mentioning.

I'd say, both 288 & Sg also good, both value up up... win win :-)
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If you all can notice, SG rooftop garden has provided 222+288 the greenery view... hahaha...
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If you all can notice, SG rooftop garden has provided 222+288 the greenery view... hahaha...
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Yup, therefore, KLCC view become SG Rooftop garden View drool.gif
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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 19 2010, 01:05 PM)
Yup, therefore, KLCC view become SG Rooftop garden View  drool.gif
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I would enjoy SG's swimming pool view as well...LOL... thumbup.gif




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yeah.. bikini....

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Owners would appreciate better quality finishes, better design compared to a garden greenery for condos. The better quality finishes or design translate to direct $$$ whereas a garden belongs to common property. Basic comparison would be build up rather than the garden sizing.
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the roof top garden u talking about is on top of the parking plaza issit?
not really the roof top of SG building isn't it?

Meanwhile, i only can compile all the pro/con on tis coming saturday so stay tune.
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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 19 2010, 08:14 PM)
hidden...
the roof top garden u talking about is on top of the parking plaza issit?
not really the roof top of SG building isn't it?

Meanwhile, i only can compile all the pro/con on tis coming saturday so stay tune.
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I heard that SG will have a show unit or sales office at site end of this year. Anyone can confirm this?

If this is true, we can compare SG vs 222/288.
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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 19 2010, 08:14 PM)
hidden...
the roof top garden u talking about is on top of the parking plaza issit?
not really the roof top of SG building isn't it?

Meanwhile, i only can compile all the pro/con on tis coming saturday so stay tune.
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not roof top of Sg la, siao, its gonna be mini Genting le.. roof top of parking

take your time on the compilation :-)


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I heard that SG will have a show unit or sales office at site end of this year.  Anyone can confirm this? 

If this is true, we can compare SG vs 222/288.
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Never heard of it, but im not suprise that they need to do a show unit with competition from 288

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not roof top of Sg la, siao, its gonna be mini Genting le..  roof top of parking

take your time on the compilation :-)


Added on October 19, 2010, 8:32 pm

Never heard of it, but im not suprise that they need to do a show unit with competition from 288
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just wish 288 sold out within a month from now..hahaha...


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All things being equal....
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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 19 2010, 08:31 PM)
not roof top of Sg la, siao, its gonna be mini Genting le..  roof top of parking

take your time on the compilation :-)


Added on October 19, 2010, 8:32 pm

Never heard of it, but im not suprise that they need to do a show unit with competition from 288
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Whatever UOA mention as concept should be taken with a pinch of salt. Other than the artist impression, nothing is stated on paper. One would expect at least a flyer to indicate at least the minimum specs but there was none.

As to the show unit, I believe this would double up as a sales and site office. I doubt the sales of SG or 288 will be fully taken up before the SG show unit is up. The show unit will assist in the slower moving units as well as justifying any price increases that UOA usually practices.

The good thing about a show unit would allow buyer to see what they are getting into. Minimally the comparison with 288 would be clear by then. However, I still doubt the finishing of SG will be any better or even at par with 288.


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All things being equal....
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Nothing is equal.

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Nothing is equal.
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Nothing is equal

To my God-need.

Nothing is equal

To my God-satisfaction.

My aspiration-world

Is sleeplessly crying

To enter into

My God-realisation-world.

- Sri Chinmoy

Excerpt from: Ten Thousand Flower-Flames, Part 1 by Sri Chinmoy, Copyright © 1900 by Sri Chinmoy - All rights reserved

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 19 2010, 08:14 PM)

Meanwhile, i only can compile all the pro/con on tis coming saturday so stay tune.
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If can get UOA for some confirmation better otherwise everything is just guess work based on artist impression and wall poster only.
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abit overprice, pv2 beside the mc d .
sell in rm389k.

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for now they oso wan to wait the AP coming out in next year just only can comfirm the everything...
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for now they oso wan to wait the AP coming out in next year just only can comfirm the everything...
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Interesting. Source from?

This is good for property business. Don't need any basic specs but can still sell.
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abit overprice, pv2 beside the mc d .
sell in rm389k.
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It's no good because i prefer KFC. I'm not convince that it is an apple to apple comparison.

On the comment that SG being pricey,

I came into conclusion that, it is hard to get any below RM300 psf property from establish developer in establish township. Its gonna be close to impossible in the coming future.

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It's no good because i prefer KFC. Its not even apple to apple.
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Agree is is not apple to apple. One chicken and another burger. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 19 2010, 08:31 PM)
not roof top of Sg la, siao, its gonna be mini Genting le..  roof top of parking

take your time on the compilation :-)


Added on October 19, 2010, 8:32 pm

Never heard of it, but im not suprise that they need to do a show unit with competition from 288
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then, tats not really roof top la LOL..


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abit overprice, pv2 beside the mc d .
sell in rm389k.
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u wrong thread or wat????

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Agree is is not apple to apple.  One chicken and another burger.  biggrin.gif
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But i than nowadays KFC & McDonald also quite similar in terms of its menu, both also subject to 6% service tax, the only main differentiator is the consumer taste bud.

Same goes with property developer nowadays.

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Where got. See post #337 from theanswerL2


Added on October 20, 2010, 10:43 am
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then, tats not really roof top la LOL..
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Ok. i rephrase, its the car park building roof top.


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tat y i ask him issit wrong thread ma coz v no interested to talk on PV2 here coz is quite far away LOL
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I'm fine to discuss anything related to SG, in the next 3 months until we get confirmation from UOA.
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PV2 no related to SG la. tongue.gif McD KFC oso no related la tongue.gif

288 / 222 / Diamond Regency / Diamond Residences / PS II

are somehow related la

LOL
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McD & KFC related la, in theory, the business model in fast food industry, is mirror to the real estate industry, property is the new Fast food.

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>_< speechless......
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OCBC is one of the panel bankers financing for this project.

you may contact me @0129006488 or pm me.

docs required:
1) booking receipt with proof of developer financing for interest and LVS (legal, valuation, stamp duty fee). -- this is for OCBC to process with DBIS (developer based Interest Scheme)
2) photocopy of I/C - 2 pcs(clear and visible)
3) certificate of higher education (if applying for 40 years, graduate home loan) -- prerequisite: age 21 to 35, have 2 years of working experience
4) bank account 3-6 months consecutive (must be the bank acct where your payroll is deposited)
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6) KWSP printed at kiosk, not from internet, copy or original also accepted, but need to provide original for mortgage consultant's verification


Added on October 20, 2010, 11:37 amjust PM la.... I believe the early bird thingy still valid

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Lewing in 288 thread posted this:

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Has anyone thought about the natural lighting issue? I could be wrong but... i went to the show room last week and really like about the 288 design. However, i found out that on unit type A, type B and type B1-a (lowest to midium high level), there may not be sufficient sunlight into bedroom 2, 3 and 4. This means, those bedrooms may be totally dark if no lights are turned on, even during day time. I think no natural light into bedrooms during day time is really a bummer... what do you guys think?


According to my understanding, That is why UOA change SG design into ‘Semi D or D” in the air according to the SG project manager. Discuss.
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whether is bungalow or semi d units all yet to finalize semua tak tau yet.

we paid for just an illusion

our RM62.50++ interest gone just like tat from the 10k .......................
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I spoke with the SG project manager on the 1st day preview la, he mentioned UOA change SG design into ‘Semi D or D” to allow more airflow la.

He seems to be a very nice guy, ya its not confirm, but lets give him the benefit of doubts :-)
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I spoke with the SG project manager on the 1st day preview la, he mentioned UOA change SG design into ‘Semi D or D” to allow more airflow la.

He seems to be a very nice guy, ya its not confirm, but lets give him the benefit of doubts :-)
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The SG design change is very welcoming compared to the airwell design before. Airwell design is done for compactness maximizing floor area but lower floors will suffer with limited sunlight.
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I spoke with the SG project manager on the 1st day preview la, he mentioned UOA change SG design into ‘Semi D or D” to allow more airflow la.

He seems to be a very nice guy, ya its not confirm, but lets give him the benefit of doubts :-)
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ckp saja everything is pending to change

well semi d is not so pa pai... those PV3,PV5 and PV6 all are Bungalows~!

hopefully they ckp and dun change.
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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 20 2010, 03:57 PM)
ckp saja everything is pending to change

well semi d is not so pa pai... those PV3,PV5 and PV6 all are Bungalows~!

hopefully they ckp and dun change.
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Anyway, whether Semi D or Bungalow, if SG finishing like low or mid cost apartment then buyers kena whack big time. If finishing like 288 show house still not too bad though the pricing is a bit expensive. Anything can happen when nothing is confirmed by UOA.

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 20 2010, 04:10 PM)
Cakap itu murah, bikin lain.

Anyway, whether Semi D or Bungalow, if SG finishing like low or mid cost apartment then buyers kena whack big time.  If finishing like 288 show house still not too bad though the pricing is a bit expensive.  Anything can happen when nothing is confirmed by UOA.
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U mean Sg is more expensive than 288? If they give the same finishing, calculating by psf, SG is least expensive right?
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SG should b more expensive coz SG smallest = 1357
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UOA Going to launch Setapak Green project near diamond residence & 222 residence @ diamond square...
Price range : agak agak RM400-600k
Sqft : agak agak 1300-1700 sqft

What say u?
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good buy ler, lets go and visit their show room


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I spoke with the SG project manager on the 1st day preview la, he mentioned UOA change SG design into ‘Semi D or D” to allow more airflow la.

He seems to be a very nice guy, ya its not confirm, but lets give him the benefit of doubts :-)
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Oh really !

Semi D design sounds interesting, not sure whether the price will go higher?

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SG should b more expensive coz SG smallest = 1357
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Ok. See u somewhere in December 2010 tongue.gif
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Interesting.  Source from?

This is good for property business. Don't need any basic specs but can still sell.
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hi, where is the sales office?
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at bangsar south, sales gallery
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U mean Sg is more expensive than 288? If they give the same finishing, calculating by psf, SG is least expensive right?
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That depends how you compare. SG flooring starts from 1 which is the first floor, ground being used for facilities. 288 flooring starts from 8 as the first 7 levels are used as carparks if I remember correctly. Based on levels, I believe SG is more expensive.
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So, are we to compare psf, level 1 Sg with level 8 of 288?

We should have compare psf, level 8 of Sg with level 8 of 288 right?
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So, are we to compare psf, level 1 Sg with level 8 of 288?

We should have compare psf, level 8 of Sg with level 8 of 288 right?
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Level 1 SG = Level 1 Carpark of 288
Level 8 SG = Level 1 Residential of 288.

How to compare? Not apple and apple but chicken and burger. For condo, higher more expensive wor......

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 20 2010, 08:04 PM)
Level 1 SG = Level 1 Carpark of 288
Level 8 SG = Level 1 Residential of 288.

How to compare?  Not apple and apple but chicken and burger.  For condo, higher more expensive wor......
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The chicken & burger way of comparing:

To compare, level 1 of SG vs level 8 of 288
To compare, level 8 of SG vs level 8 of 288
To compare, level 8 of SG vs level 15 of 288

Then check result.


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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 20 2010, 08:22 PM)
The chicken & burger way of comparing:

To compare, level 1 of SG vs level 8 of 288
To compare, level 8 of SG vs level 8 of 288
To compare, level 8 of SG vs level 15 of 288

Then check result.
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U have the price list? If not don't know KFC or McD is cheaper? I think better don't promote SG too much till I confirm my booking otherwise all kena sapu and I cannot even grab one.

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Level 1 SG = Level 1 Carpark of 288
Level 8 SG = Level 1 Residential of 288. Correction - 222 from level 9 la..... 288 level 4 or 5 la....
How to compare?  Not apple and apple but chicken and burger.  For condo, higher more expensive wor......
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Can someone assist to confirm 288 carpark start from which floor?

get the price list and we can do chicken & burger analysis :-)


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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 20 2010, 08:29 PM)
U have the price list?  If not don't know KFC or McD is cheaper?  I think better don't promote SG too much till I confirm my booking otherwise all kena sapu and I cannot even grab one.
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Level 8 SG = Level 1 Residential of 288. Correction - 222 from level 9 la..... 288 level 4 or 5 la....
Thank you for the correction. Anyway I thought the parking of 288 is at least 7 level. Did I misunderstood?


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get the price list and we can do chicken & burger analysis :-)

Go to KFC (SG) and McD (288) for the menu.

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user posted image <---- 222 Residency, Grd floor shoplots, parking from level 1 to level 7, level 8 facilities floor

user posted image <-----222 Residency (another view)

user posted image <----- 288 Residency, where the parking level from ground to 4 floor (4th floor half parking half facilities)

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user posted image  <---- 222 Residency

user posted image    <----- 288 Residency
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Pictures can't tell clearly as they were using shades for the parking. I remember it is 7 or 8 floors of parking.
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Pictures can't tell clearly as they were using shades for the parking.  I remember it is 7 or 8 floors of parking.
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LOL....check out yourself then. If model can't tell you which floor is for parking...speechless...


sorry for being kepoh here..hahaha

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LOL....check out yourself then. If model can't tell you which floor is for parking...speechless...
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Hahaha... Do they sell these kind of model? I'm interested to get one. A picture tells million words... Hahaha... Can't imaginE how many ramp up u need if your car park at seven floor, unless they got car lift likE japan.

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LOL....check out yourself then. If model can't tell you which floor is for parking...speechless...
sorry for being kepoh here..hahaha
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Hahaha... Do they sell these kind of model? I'm interested to get one. A picture tells million words... Hahaha... Can't imaginE how many ramp up u need if your car park at seven floor, unless they got car lift likE japan.
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yayaya..hahaha.....too many levels up carparks....due to land size constrain......no choice, they wanna save cost by no building basements, then the only choice...go for multistorey carparks.


something like Saville Residence @ Old Klang road, up up up ...hahaa
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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 20 2010, 09:31 PM)
Hahaha... Do they sell these kind of model? I'm interested to get one. A picture tells million words... Hahaha... Can't imaginE how many ramp up u need if your car park at seven floor, unless they got car lift likE japan.
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Nowadays is quite common to see buildings with high carpark levels especially Studio residences. They have a out of proportion architectural look. Many near to Subang Parade area. I don't think they look aesthetic at all.
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I think, this have to do with the fact that 222 is on a commercial land, land limited maybe, they have no choice but to up up up, else they may just make 288 x 2...

I prefer to eat my fast food in a spacey environment.
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Based on the all the comments seen here and from what I have understood from KP and UOA - I think both projects have their own merits. I referring to 288 and SG, of course as their product is almost similar. 222 is a whole different kind of animal.

Let's take a look:
ITEM 1 - COMPANY REPUTATION
KP is a new developer - can trust? Well, I doubt that KP is a hit and run company. For their first few projects, they are keen to impress the public and develop some confidence in buyers. So I think 288 can try.
UOA - established and reliable. No 2nd guessing on whether they can perform. SG can buy too.

ITEM 2 - LOCATION
Well, they are both in more or less the same place. Sure certain views are blocked by either building - SG block 222/288 KL view and 222/288 block SG Genting view. So choose your units wisely.
Road expansion? Well, I have spoken to representatives of both developers and they seem very certain that it will be going ahead. Sure once all the blocks are completed there may be a bottle-neck at this area, but at least these guys are doing their part to widen the road to ease the traffic.
Both wins.

ITEM 3 - PRODUCT : BUILDING
288 building facade is nice - judging from their artist's impressions, very stylish. SG - definitely not as nice, but then again SG not launched, only preview. Sales staff said product still improving. Cross fingers.
Dual access in SG? UOA not sure as they mentioned is dependent on authority. If got, then great! KP - definitely 1 access only.
Open garden space in SG very nice. Like small park.
288 no space for that - but nice facilities area - like hotel.

ITEM 4 - PRODUCT : UNITS
Living Room width given in 288 is larger than SG;
Bathrooms in SG better than 288 as majority is natural ventilated;
SG changed design so more ventilation at yard area - esp for air-con. 288 not sure where air-con compressor is placed;

ITEM 5 - PRICING
288 give kitchen cabinets and appliances (Electrolux some more!) is very good. Helps the small families save money on renovation. Technically buyer is paying for it, but at least its in the loan amount already so no need pay full lump sum like during renovation.
UOA don't have. But give buyers the opportunity to create their own style. I mean esp for larger units, buyers have a little more money and may like to design to their own taste, rather than stick to the standard kitchen design and colour. I'm sure KP will give a contemporary kitchen design acceptable to most, but it is still standard.

SG give 2 car parks - a definitely plus point as for units with 3 bedrooms, 2 cp is minimum requirement.
288 give 1 cp only. So I guess money saved on not doing kitchen renovation will use for buying/renting extra car park.

This list can go on and on - comparing all pros and cons of both projects. I have to say they both have their own merits, so it really boils down to personal preference and what each buyer looks for.
Me? What did I buy? Personally, I took up SG. Why?
1. 2 cp important for me & wife
2. I'm designer & like to cook so like design my own kitchen
3. Thinking of start a family, so park is nice
4. Friend bought UOA park residence, say design & specs ok

At first I was not sure about SG, cause during their preview, they kept changing design. Poster one type, then easal stand got another. Why? If not ready don't launch lah. Didn't seem very pro.
Later I thought - UOA is established company, I'm sure they are not so slip-shot. Maybe this is their strategy. Do a sneak preview, get feedback from customers, then amend design. Sure, it's a little unconventional, but ultimately its for the better. I look at their revised layout and it is definitely an improvement. I like the big kitchen now. smile.gif

In conclusion - buyers of 288 and SG are both winners. REALLY REALLY depends on what is important for you. For flippers, maybe can earn some extra cash, but my philosopy is buy something that you like to stay in. If you like it, chances in selling or leasing it is higher, cause even you would like to stay there.

Good luck all!!
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newkidontheblock gave good review... can put ur review on 1st page ma?
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Based on the all the comments seen here and from what I have understood from KP and UOA - I think both projects have their own merits.  I referring to 288 and SG, of course as their product is almost similar.  222 is a whole different kind of animal.

Let's take a look:
ITEM 1 - COMPANY REPUTATION
KP is a new developer - can trust?  Well, I doubt that KP is a hit and run company.  For their first few projects, they are keen to impress the public and develop some confidence in buyers.  So I think 288 can try.
UOA - established and reliable.  No 2nd guessing on whether they can perform.  SG can buy too.

ITEM 2 - LOCATION
Well, they are both in more or less the same place.  Sure certain views are blocked by either building - SG block 222/288 KL view and 222/288 block SG Genting view.  So choose your units wisely.
Road expansion?  Well, I have spoken to representatives of both developers and they seem very certain that it will be going ahead.  Sure once all the blocks are completed there may be a bottle-neck at this area, but at least these guys are doing their part to widen the road to ease the traffic.
Both wins.

ITEM 3 - PRODUCT : BUILDING
288 building facade is nice - judging from their artist's impressions, very stylish.  SG - definitely not as nice, but then again SG not launched, only preview. Sales staff said product still improving.  Cross fingers.
Dual access in SG?  UOA not sure as they mentioned is dependent on authority.  If got, then great!  KP - definitely 1 access only.
Open garden space in SG very nice.  Like small park.
288 no space for that - but nice facilities area - like hotel.

ITEM 4 - PRODUCT : UNITS
Living Room width given in 288 is larger than SG;
Bathrooms in SG better than 288 as majority is natural ventilated;
SG changed design so more ventilation at yard area - esp for air-con.  288 not sure where air-con compressor is placed;

ITEM 5 - PRICING
288 give kitchen cabinets and appliances (Electrolux some more!) is very good.  Helps the small families save money on renovation.  Technically buyer is paying for it, but at least its in the loan amount already so no need pay full lump sum like during renovation.
UOA don't have.  But give buyers the opportunity to create their own style.  I mean esp for larger units, buyers have a little more money and may like to design to their own taste, rather than stick to the standard kitchen design and colour.  I'm sure KP will give a contemporary kitchen design acceptable to most, but it is still standard.

SG give 2 car parks - a definitely plus point as for units with 3 bedrooms, 2 cp is minimum requirement. 
288 give 1 cp only.  So I guess money saved on not doing kitchen renovation will use for buying/renting extra car park.

This list can go on and on - comparing all pros and cons of both projects.  I have to say they both have their own merits, so it really boils down to personal preference and what each buyer looks for.
Me?  What did I buy?  Personally, I took up SG.  Why?
1.  2 cp important for me & wife
2.  I'm designer & like to cook so like design my own kitchen
3.  Thinking of start a family, so park is nice
4.  Friend bought UOA park residence, say design & specs ok

At first I was not sure about SG, cause during their preview, they kept changing design.  Poster one type, then easal stand got another.  Why?  If not ready don't launch lah.  Didn't seem very pro.
Later I thought - UOA is established company, I'm sure they are not so slip-shot.  Maybe this is their strategy.  Do a sneak preview, get feedback from customers, then amend design.  Sure, it's a little unconventional, but ultimately its for the better.  I look at their revised layout and it is definitely an improvement.  I like the big kitchen now.  smile.gif

In conclusion - buyers of 288 and SG are both winners.  REALLY REALLY depends on what is important for you.  For flippers, maybe can earn some extra cash, but my philosopy is buy something that you like to stay in.  If you like it, chances in selling or leasing it is higher, cause even you would like to stay there.

Good luck all!!
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Its really great & detail review. But u flatter them too much on the bold part.
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newkidontheblock gave good review... can put ur review on 1st page ma?
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NKOTB's review is great but sounded too positive. No offense NKOTB but we need a compilation of "negatives" of these 2 projects? Just like Feng Shui you have the good and the bad elements so that they balance harmoniously. biggrin.gif
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i have bought a unit from UOA in menjalara, they used to make it corner unit for almost all units. One thing, i dislike UOA is they used to block those nice units and told many story force to buy those 'not nice' unit first then will release out to sell higher price. Somemore now, they are amending their plan and purposely to attack other site with their weakness. Thats why they sure will tell you their goodness to convince u. Anyway, i would say UOA is trust worthy on they end product while i never encounter with any end product from KP, but if they are really the main contractor of st. mary and my habitat, think is should be fine to get the trust from public on their capability by delivering the good quality and on time for sure.

well, just my opinion for you. hope it helps.


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Another point to ponder is that being a good main contractor & a good developer is a different ball game. It doesn't guarantee u their development will be great. The only thing it can guarantee is their workmanship & site management.
Being great in main con won't cos the company $$$ since all expenses are borned by developer.
But being a great developer will cos the company $$$ even if there's slight changes. And here's the key point, does the company have strong financial backing for the projects?
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QUOTE(vreis @ Oct 21 2010, 12:03 PM)
Another point to ponder is that being a good main contractor & a good developer is a different ball game. It doesn't guarantee u their development will be great. The only thing it can guarantee is their workmanship & site management.
Being great in main con won't cos the company $$$ since all expenses are borned by developer.
But being a great developer will cos the company $$$ even if there's slight changes. And here's the key point, does the company have strong financial backing for the projects?
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QUOTE(vreis @ Oct 21 2010, 12:03 PM)
Another point to ponder is that being a good main contractor & a good developer is a different ball game. It doesn't guarantee u their development will be great. The only thing it can guarantee is their workmanship & site management.
Being great in main con won't cos the company $$$ since all expenses are borned by developer.
But being a great developer will cos the company $$$ even if there's slight changes. And here's the key point, does the company have strong financial backing for the projects?
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no one know..same like i bought the previous from UOA by just conveying message by the sales agent..who can assure even they told us how good is it?
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QUOTE(carlhoe @ Oct 21 2010, 12:21 PM)
no one know..same like i bought the previous from UOA by just conveying message by the sales agent..who can assure even they told us how good is it?
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thats why buying properties from reputable developer (in this case UOA), you need to pay premium price since the risks are lesser and they need to deliver their promises.
My point is for those that thinks good main con (which KP are) = good developer.
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hidden? since u monitoring this thread actively, kindly help to compile a bit so to ease me a bit.
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I will work on a key notes compilation from page one to page 20 to compliment NKOTB review to sg & 288, stay tune. I will take bth positive & negative views to better illustrate the project.
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Don't forget that with 288, 222, SG, Diamond Regency and Diamond Residence all concentrated around that area, oh including shop lots, i can already see that parking spaces around this area would be highly insufficient. Worst case scenario, expect a lot of double parking and congested streets. Not every condo owners like to park their vehicles on 5th floor or higher.
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QUOTE(newkidontheblock @ Oct 21 2010, 10:39 AM)
Based on the all the comments seen here and from what I have understood from KP and UOA - I think both projects have their own merits.  I referring to 288 and SG, of course as their product is almost similar.  222 is a whole different kind of animal.

Let's take a look:
ITEM 1 - COMPANY REPUTATION
KP is a new developer - can trust?  Well, I doubt that KP is a hit and run company.  For their first few projects, they are keen to impress the public and develop some confidence in buyers.  So I think 288 can try.
UOA - established and reliable.  No 2nd guessing on whether they can perform.  SG can buy too.

ITEM 2 - LOCATION
Well, they are both in more or less the same place.  Sure certain views are blocked by either building - SG block 222/288 KL view and 222/288 block SG Genting view.  So choose your units wisely.
Road expansion?  Well, I have spoken to representatives of both developers and they seem very certain that it will be going ahead.  Sure once all the blocks are completed there may be a bottle-neck at this area, but at least these guys are doing their part to widen the road to ease the traffic.
Both wins.

ITEM 3 - PRODUCT : BUILDING
288 building facade is nice - judging from their artist's impressions, very stylish.  SG - definitely not as nice, but then again SG not launched, only preview. Sales staff said product still improving.  Cross fingers.
Dual access in SG?  UOA not sure as they mentioned is dependent on authority.  If got, then great!  KP - definitely 1 access only.
Open garden space in SG very nice.  Like small park.
288 no space for that - but nice facilities area - like hotel.

ITEM 4 - PRODUCT : UNITS
Living Room width given in 288 is larger than SG;
Bathrooms in SG better than 288 as majority is natural ventilated;
SG changed design so more ventilation at yard area - esp for air-con.  288 not sure where air-con compressor is placed;

ITEM 5 - PRICING
288 give kitchen cabinets and appliances (Electrolux some more!) is very good.  Helps the small families save money on renovation.  Technically buyer is paying for it, but at least its in the loan amount already so no need pay full lump sum like during renovation.
UOA don't have.  But give buyers the opportunity to create their own style.  I mean esp for larger units, buyers have a little more money and may like to design to their own taste, rather than stick to the standard kitchen design and colour.  I'm sure KP will give a contemporary kitchen design acceptable to most, but it is still standard.

SG give 2 car parks - a definitely plus point as for units with 3 bedrooms, 2 cp is minimum requirement. 
288 give 1 cp only.  So I guess money saved on not doing kitchen renovation will use for buying/renting extra car park.

This list can go on and on - comparing all pros and cons of both projects.  I have to say they both have their own merits, so it really boils down to personal preference and what each buyer looks for.
Me?  What did I buy?  Personally, I took up SG.  Why?
1.  2 cp important for me & wife
2.  I'm designer & like to cook so like design my own kitchen
3.  Thinking of start a family, so park is nice
4.  Friend bought UOA park residence, say design & specs ok

At first I was not sure about SG, cause during their preview, they kept changing design.  Poster one type, then easal stand got another.  Why?  If not ready don't launch lah.  Didn't seem very pro.
Later I thought - UOA is established company, I'm sure they are not so slip-shot.  Maybe this is their strategy.  Do a sneak preview, get feedback from customers, then amend design.  Sure, it's a little unconventional, but ultimately its for the better.  I look at their revised layout and it is definitely an improvement.  I like the big kitchen now.  smile.gif

In conclusion - buyers of 288 and SG are both winners.  REALLY REALLY depends on what is important for you.  For flippers, maybe can earn some extra cash, but my philosopy is buy something that you like to stay in.  If you like it, chances in selling or leasing it is higher, cause even you would like to stay there.

Good luck all!!
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A very nice review.
To me, the price differential btw 288 vs SG is enough for me to do renovation at SG.
You may feel the pain with only 1 car park. personal view
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I will work on a key notes compilation from page one to page 20 to compliment NKOTB review to sg & 288, stay tune. I will take bth positive & negative views to better illustrate the project.
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UOA will give you higher discount if you provide a good review. Bad review, they may choose not to sell it to you.
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I place stake holder fee of RM10,000 last Saturday, booking for a unit at 3rd Floor 1480sq fts. Still no plan nor layout showed to me yet.....

NKOTB quoted he got the revised layout???
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'Long way to property bubble in Malaysia'


2010/10/21


SHAH ALAM: There is still a long way to reach property bubble in Malaysia, says Housing and Local Government Minister Datuk Wira Chor Chee Heung.

According to the Housing Index for the last 10 years, prices of houses have moved about 37 per cent while in countries like Singapore and Hong Kong, property prices shot passed 35 per cent last year, he said.

He said property prices in Malaysia started to rise since 2008 due to land cost, building materials and vibrancy of the economy as a result of the initiatives and measures taken by the federal government.

"This is also as a result of foreign companies coming into this country to invest in properties. Because of the aggressive policies by the government, a lot of foreign companies set up bases in this country and bought properties for their senior staff and executives," he said when launching Setia City, an integrated green commercial hub in Shah Alam to be developed by SP Setia Bhd.

Chor, however, said it did not mean ordinary people who just joined the workforce are not able to buy houses.

"If you go further up a bit, 10km away from the KL City Centre, you are still able to find a reasonably-priced house. "If you say you can't find houses in the Klang Valley within the RM350,000 range, I will not believe you, but you have to travel a bit further out of the city centre.

"In central Kuala Lumpur, you can't find houses within the range of RM150,000 to RM300,000. Last year and this year, the most sought-after properties are in the range of RM150,000 to RM180,000.

"In central Kuala Lumpur, you can't find houses within the range of RM150,000 to RM300,000.

"This is the result of government efforts to transform Kuala Lumpur into a bustling city. If you find a house at RM200,000 within the Kuala Lumpur City, this means our economy is in bad shape," he said.

Chor said the government was concerned of this and that was why incentives were provided for in the 2011 Budget to assist low-income earners and young people who just joined the workforce to buy houses.

The minister, however, said the government would not control property prices as Malaysia was a free economy.

"The government will intervene if certain things happen that will bring disaster to the economy and the people," he said.
Chor said people have been buying houses since 2008 and he did not deny that there could be some speculation.

"There is also a sudden drop in the number of houses to be built last year and this showed developers are also studying the market situation," he said.

SP Setia president and chief executive officer Tan Sri Liew Kee Sin said there was no where to build houses within the RM350,000 price range except in Johor where land was cheaper.

"Land cost is a factor of the end-product," he said, adding that a large portion of SP Setia's projects were within the price range of RM400,000 to RM1 million. -- Bernama


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QUOTE(sunnie3138 @ Oct 21 2010, 06:24 PM)
I place stake holder fee of RM10,000 last Saturday, booking for a unit at 3rd Floor 1480sq fts.  Still no plan nor layout showed to me yet.....

NKOTB quoted he got the revised layout???
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I meant the revised layout shown that day - original on the poster, the other one show in the SA files.
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I place stake holder fee of RM10,000 last Saturday, booking for a unit at 3rd Floor 1480sq fts.  Still no plan nor layout showed to me yet.....

NKOTB quoted he got the revised layout???
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Is this unit 1 or 16 rite?
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user posted image <---Lumina kiara condo - main con - KP

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http://www.seers.com.my/project.html


I am expecting this kind of quality by paying less than 300 per sf. LOL

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Introduction

As part of the celebration for the thread hitting 20 pages, I am hereby compiling a summary for the key notes for the first 20 pages of the thread, and to provide everyone, both, contributors, sole readers, as well as potential contributors, a glance to the UOA, exclusive Setapak Green project.

The Developer

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UOA Group is a leading property group in Malaysia. Founded and listed on the Australian Stock Exchange (ASX) in 1987, UOA has focused on property development, construction, property investment, and property management. Since 1989, the Group has based its headquarters and business operations in Kuala Lumpur, capital state of Malaysia. As at 31 December 2009 :- The Group has successfully completed and delivered projects comprising commercial, retail and residential properties with GDV (Gross Development Value) in excess of an estimated RM 3.0 billion. For more information, see their complete group profile - here.

Project Preview

On, October 08, 2010 and October 09, 2010 - Pre-screening of the project open to UOA members with only selected floors open for prebook.
On, October 10, 2010 and October 11, 2010 – Pre-Screening of the project open to the public with most of the floors open for prebook

Location:

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Property Gallery - The Village
No.2, Bangsar South, Jalan 1/112H,
Off Jalan Kerinchi, 59200 Kuala Lumpur.
Tel: (603) 2282 9993
Fax: (603) 2282 8590

Project details

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The project is schedule to launch somewhere between the time frame of December 2010 to February 2011, due to the pending approval of AP (Advertising Permit).

UOA Going to launch Setapak Green project near diamond residence & 222 residence @ diamond square.
Price range : Between RM400-600k
Sqft : Between 1300-1700 sqft #1
Freehold with residential title
DIBS - Developer Interest Bearing Scheme

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SG is on a 4.5 acres land with one block of condo. #27

8 units KL facing view and another 8 units Genting view. One corner unit of the Genting view is directly facing the pool with the second unit slightly adjacent to it. The Genting view is priced slightly lower. #43

For 8th floor, KLCC facing view, price should be around 330 psf + or - a little, after discount. All units come with 2 car parks. SG has a density of 445 units over 4.5 acres of residential land. With a single block of 16 units per floor serve by 6 lifts it comes either with a "Semi D" or "Bungalow" design. Because of the 4.5 acres, SG facilities are quite spread out. The swimming pool is on the ground #41

There are no actual specs of SG yet. If SG is using Bangsarsouth Park Residence specs then it should have at least the following:

1. Pre install aircon piping, plenty of light points, 3 phase electricity, Water Heater points for toilets and kitchen
2. All toilets comes with vanity top (I think nicer that the ones shown in 288), Tempered glass shower screens, Mixer, Shower Rose, Stainless Kitchen Basins and Mixers (not install to cater for reno)

Bangsarsouth Park Residence comes with 12 ft ceiling clearance. #89

SG is still improving their design & layout so will see their outcome before December 2010. One nice point about SG is the L shape balcony. #64

SG had done some adjustment to the price due to resizing of some units which is now slightly bigger. Not sure if this was an error on Friday (08 October 2010), due to some change of plans. #31

Irrevocable offer to purchase (Pre-booking)

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Members and the public were given the options of pre-booking (lets use pre-booking as the more common terms), with a Rm10,000 of payment through stake holder – Joseph Ting & Co. The Irrevocable offer to purchase are directed to Sagaharta Sdn Bhd.

Just check the 2006 UOA Ltd Annual Report, Sagaharta Sdn Bhd is 100% owned by UOA development berhad. #216

My understanding is that it is our offer to UOA thru the lawyer at the purchase price indicated in the said letter. UOA should only accept our offer purchase price as stated. If UOA wanted to raise the price/sq ft, that mean they are not accepting our offer price, but instead UOA is counter-offer us at revised price. In this case, we have to right not to accept. #221

Members were given an 8% early bird discount on the first day (October 08, 2010)
Members & public were given a 7% early bird discount effective the second day of preview. (October 09, 2010).

Positive

The KLCC view is really very nice. Even when standing on the ground. Nothing blocks. Imagine you are a few level on top. #24

Another point i get UOA is bcoz as the propose drawing they have 2 entrance 1 in diamond square 1 @ Jln Bunga Tanjung. #94

So far in setapak area, there is no luxury project yet (pardon my lack of knowledge if there's any), so its really not apple to apple comparison, Setapak is currently under major development, new road to curb traffic jam, shopping complex at platinum there, this may the start of 300++sf property for setapak. Also, setapak is so used to be a student township (TAR), let not forget, most graduate continue to stay in setapak area after joining the work force, hence, + in spending power, + development. #117

Critics

UOA is very conservative in their design. Practical interior but outdated exterior facade. #64

No brochure given at the moment. Details are subject to change. This includes the design of the building, the unit size and price. Everything is tentative, no approvals from the relevant authorities yet with regards to project design etc. Picture given looks like the same building as Bangsar South project, which will look so outdated #162

SA lacks a lot of information and being non committal is common under such circumstances other than reading from the sales kit. The specs in the sales kit is very generic from the finishing to light switches and everything else.

In terms of view, not all units have the best. The 1st floor for SG is actually the 1st floor (above the facilities floor on ground), and carpark is another complex. This carpark will block the lower floor units if they are facing that direction. Same thing goes for units facing Diamond Sq which will block units up to about 8 floor. However, this is reflected lower prices in view of this compromise. #179


Panel Bank

So far confirm Ambank (their representative is available on the preview day), UOB & CIMB (Both require confirmation),

and OCBC (as stated by the OCBC banker, see #351)

MISC

Oral representation by the sale rep is also a valid contract and form part of the contract although it might be on the weak side. It almost clear that every buyers signing up the letter were being informed by the sale rep that the deposit is refundable in any case before signing S&P.

I guess most major developers wont be very strict or wanted to forfeit your little money in the expense of their goodwill and reputation. Of course when it has a good take up rate. This is what I heard most other developers will normally refund that "booking fee" #238


Contact

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For Enquiries
UOACare Line
Toll Free: 1-300-88-6668
Fax: (603) 2245 9198
Email Contact: uoacare@uoa.com.my

Note: Compilation done on 21 October 2010

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Added on October 21, 2010, 8:45 pmTo kh8668, wah, if SG is like that, im really happy.

I will try to compare another thread for SG vs 288 Deathmatch.

As for the SG compilation above, i have made some amendments to strike out some comments, please let me know if i misunderstood your meanings and i will remove or amend it back. Please check the #numbers (post number) for the reference. Generally, i try to make it as informative rather than inserting excessive opinions.

Also, please try to read through and see whether i miss compile or miss out anything that i need to amend, add or put disclaimer.

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 21 2010, 06:40 PM)
Wah! biggest unit neh~!
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But mine is the cheapest unit facing genting and only 3rd floor...
The only view might be the landscape lor... smile.gif


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QUOTE(newkidontheblock @ Oct 21 2010, 07:50 PM)
I meant the revised layout shown that day - original on the poster, the other one show in the SA files.
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OIC ..... Are you going to own the Setapak Green???


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Is this unit 1 or 16 rite?
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Mine is type C ... facing Genting, the Landscape just next to the lift


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Sad to say, that is KP's quality, not SG...


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QUOTE(sunnie3138 @ Oct 21 2010, 08:54 PM)
But mine is the cheapest unit facing genting and only 3rd floor...
The only view might be the landscape lor... smile.gif

I am afraid that it is not landscape view, but car park block view...
landscape on top of car park...



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OIC  .....  Are you going to own the Setapak Green???


Added on October 21, 2010, 9:02 pm

Mine is type C ... facing Genting, the Landscape just next to the lift
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Sad to say, that is KP's quality, not SG...


Added on October 21, 2010, 10:09 pm
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I quoted this for UOA to see, UOA, prove wonghs wrong pls... cry.gif


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'Long way to property bubble in Malaysia'
2010/10/21


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Good stuff

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 21 2010, 10:14 PM)
I quoted this for UOA to see, UOA, prove wonghs wrong pls... cry.gif


Added on October 21, 2010, 10:29 pm

Good stuff
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Lumina Kiara is the first project of its developer....good one..... UOA - buyers urge you to give this kind of quality too...LOL

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QUOTE(vreis @ Oct 21 2010, 12:58 PM)
thats why buying properties from reputable developer (in this case UOA), you need to pay premium price since the risks are lesser and they need to deliver their promises. 
My point is for those that thinks good main con (which KP are) = good developer.
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UOA pre-launched without doing preparation. Even worst when they take the bangsar south design as SG. All this just because they want to compete with 288. So, you think this is what a "reputable" company suppose to perform? I'm disappointed.

UOA was doing quite good. But, this time UOA is lousy.
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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 21 2010, 08:04 PM)
Is this unit 1 or 16 rite?
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i thinks 1480sq.ft is 3A or 05 izit?
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BTimes

'Long way to property bubble in Malaysia'


"In central Kuala Lumpur, you can't find houses within the range of RM150,000 to RM300,000.

"This is the result of government efforts to transform Kuala Lumpur into a bustling city. If you find a house at RM200,000 within the Kuala Lumpur City, this means our economy is in bad shape," he said.

Who is pushing up the property prices in KL? Now no bubble pulak.


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UOA pre-launched without doing preparation. Even worst when they take the bangsar south design as SG. All this just because they want to compete with 288. So, you think this is what a "reputable" company suppose to perform? I'm disappointed.

UOA was doing quite good. But, this time UOA is lousy.
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The only way for UOA to win back their reputation is to delivery a good quality product.


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There are no actual specs of SG yet. If SG is using Bangsarsouth Park Residence specs then it should have at least the following:

1. Pre install aircon piping, plenty of light points, 3 phase electricity, Water Heater points for toilets and kitchen
2. All toilets comes with vanity top (I think nicer that the ones shown in 288), Tempered glass shower screens, Mixer, Shower Rose, Stainless Kitchen Basins and Mixers (not install to cater for reno)

Bangsarsouth Park Residence comes with 12 ft ceiling clearance. #89

I was told not to over expect the specs to be like Bangsarsouth.

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 21 2010, 11:42 PM)
Who is pushing up the property prices in KL?  Now no bubble pulak.


Added on October 21, 2010, 11:43 pm
The only way for UOA to win back their reputation is to delivery a good quality product.


Added on October 21, 2010, 11:51 pm
I was told not to over expect the specs to be like Bangsarsouth.
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How much psf is bangsar south park ressidence?

Expectation achived = reputation increase.
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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 21 2010, 10:36 PM)
Lumina Kiara is the first project of its developer....good one..... UOA - buyers urge you to give this kind of quality too...LOL
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i agreed with kh8668. UOA is too rush this time.


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UOA pre-launched without doing preparation. Even worst when they take the bangsar south design as SG. All this just because they want to compete with 288. So, you think this is what a "reputable" company suppose to perform? I'm disappointed.

UOA was doing quite good. But, this time UOA is lousy.
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yes, i think the same way. i am member of UOA and eventually i gave up to place booking in SG but voted to 288. UOA has been rushing to compete with 288 and what they said to buyer is just too fantastic while might not be able to deliver at last (remember all drawing and spec with price is subjected to be changed). Somemore their design is too conservative and sure might be able to deliver same spec as bangsar south residency.

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QUOTE(mature @ Oct 21 2010, 10:58 PM)
UOA pre-launched without doing preparation. Even worst when they take the bangsar south design as SG. All this just because they want to compete with 288. So, you think this is what a "reputable" company suppose to perform? I'm disappointed.

UOA was doing quite good. But, this time UOA is lousy.
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u missed the point. I wholly agree with your above statement. If u care to read thru, I did reply someone, he/she over flattered UOA
As I said, the point raised is ONLY u cannot merely compare being a good main con = GOOD developer wink.gif

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u missed the point. I wholly agree with your above statement. If u care to read thru, I did reply someone, he/she over flattered UOA
As I said, the point raised is ONLY u cannot merely compare being a good main con = GOOD developer wink.gif
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understand good contractor is not exact equvalent to good developer. but what kp deliver so far is good interms of package given (design/material/..) and SINCERITY. another hand, what uoa deliver so far is bad. uoa failed to deliver sincerity which is the most important in doing any business. the purpose of launching is just to compete with 288 so that they can earn more $$. i know nothing wrong to earn $$, but always need to consider buyer benefits as FIRST PRIORITY.

kp is good or not? if u want me to judge now, my answer is they did a good job. in future? no one knows. lets see after 3 years what happen.
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QUOTE(mature @ Oct 22 2010, 11:12 AM)
understand good contractor is not exact equvalent to good developer. but what kp deliver so far is good interms of package given (design/material/..) and SINCERITY. another hand, what uoa deliver so far is bad. uoa failed to deliver sincerity which is the most important in doing any business. the purpose of launching is just to compete with 288 so that they can earn more $$. i know nothing wrong to earn $$, but always need to consider buyer benefits as FIRST PRIORITY.

kp is good or not? if u want me to judge now, my answer is they did a good job. in future? no one knows. lets see after 3 years what happen.
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well, no matter we buy the house either for investment of personal stay, just buy whatever you like based on the layout design and environment concept which suit to your idea by paying the price for it. both sure have their own good and bad. yes, so far KP what they have delivered is on time and good quality which is no doubt for sure.

i am a bit dissapointed with UOA too this time as what they spoke and trying to crab the buyer in short time by keep changing the design just to attack other developer.
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QUOTE(mature @ Oct 22 2010, 11:12 AM)
understand good contractor is not exact equvalent to good developer. but what kp deliver so far is good interms of package given (design/material/..) and SINCERITY. another hand, what uoa deliver so far is bad. uoa failed to deliver sincerity which is the most important in doing any business. the purpose of launching is just to compete with 288 so that they can earn more $$. i know nothing wrong to earn $$, but always need to consider buyer benefits as FIRST PRIORITY.

kp is good or not? if u want me to judge now, my answer is they did a good job. in future? no one knows. lets see after 3 years what happen.
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As a matter of fact, they way they did launching for SG, seems dodgy for a company of their standing. Might as well saying "for now, we are selling you air for 450k"? Afterall there's no confirmation on anything for now. Kinda shitty for a company with good track record isnt it.
As for KP, I'm not being judgmental, whether they can deliver what they say will be up in 3 years time.

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well, no matter we buy the house either for investment of personal stay, just buy whatever you like based on the layout design and environment concept which suit to your idea by paying the price for it. both sure have their own good and bad.  yes, so far KP what they have delivered is on time and good quality which is no doubt for sure.

i am a bit dissapointed with UOA too this time as what they spoke and trying to crab the buyer in short time by keep changing the design just to attack other developer.
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Thats the way it is being in this business, any advantage gain will be money in the coffers.
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Many have made their opinion clear that they are disapointed with uoa handling of setapak green, that include me, but what done is done, and let's focus on how uoa can deliver to the expectation, especially when the official launch, and final deliveries.

As for kp, I agree that developer and main con plays diff roles, for the benefit of doubts, let's give kp a break and trust them to be good.
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Many have made their opinion clear that they are disapointed with uoa handling of setapak green, that include me, but what done is done, and let's focus on how uoa can deliver to the expectation, especially when the official launch, and final deliveries.

As for kp, I agree that developer and main con plays diff roles, for the benefit of doubts, let's give kp a break and trust them to be good.
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yes. now timing is the most important factor in making decision earlier or later. 2 months later, no one will know the consequences of most unit in 288 being taken up by public or just u grab a better unit in SG.


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All the above mentioned should be met by $$$. lol

Be prepared to pay more for maintenance fees and sinking funds before you're expecting much more better upkeep.

288 and 222 - first two years maintenace fee will be charged at RM0.15 per sq ft. third year unknown.

222 units of average size of 1,000 sq ft each, should be 222,000 sq ft x 0.15 = RM33,300
I'm not sure RM33,300 enough to cover the utility bills, landscaping, garden, swimming pool maintenance, guards' fee, property manager, clerk, plumber & etc.
for new condo, it should be ok...said
utilities bills one month = RM5,000,
guards' fee                = RM9,000 (6 persons for 3 shifts *haha RM1,500 each salary to new grad* allowance for good one),
Gardener/upkeeper      = RM2,000 (2 persons)
Clerk                        = RM1,200 (1 person)
Plumber                    = RM1,500 ( 1 person)
Property Manager        = RM5,000 (1 person)
Swimming pool, safety equipment, lifts and building inspection, garbage collection and etc regular checking said RM3,000 per month

total RM25,700

seem like still got extra ya.
UOA - maintenance fee (anyone can share?)
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Sorry, i just read back the information and would like to share with you guys.

I have a property from UOA too. We are the committe who was taking over from UOA. They really bullshit as they have not install the fire safety in the building and we (commitee) have to pay for much more fire insurance and we need to increase the maintainance fees to residents. Sommore, they said the sinking fund and mainatainance fees is not sufficient at all to pay in the compound. so what i want to deliver is their maintainance is the same like other said if KP cant do as good as UOA. well, be fair, just voice out for those may not encounter with UOA before.

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Carlhoe: Wow - that is surprising! But I don't really understand what you mean by "fire safety" - like hose reel, fire extinguisher, etc? These are authority requirements - all developers need to include these things in, if not they cannot get CF.

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How much psf is bangsar south park ressidence?

Expectation achived = reputation increase.
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Bangsarsouth prices very much lower than SG when they launch.


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yes. now timing is the most important factor in making decision earlier or later. 2 months later, no one will know the consequences of most unit in 288 being taken up by public or just u grab a better unit in SG.

I agree on this point. What happens for a buyer that is considering 288 and SG, but decides to try out SG. 2 months later, UOA give inferior specs, the buyer will miss buying good units in 288.


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Sorry, i just read back the information and would like to share with you guys.

I have a property from UOA too. We are the committe who was taking over from UOA. They really bullshit as they have not install the fire safety in the building and we (commitee) have to pay for much more fire insurance and we need to increase the maintainance fees to residents. Sommore, they said the sinking fund and mainatainance fees is not sufficient at all to pay in the compound. so what i want to deliver is their maintainance is the same like other said if KP cant do as good as UOA. well, be fair, just voice out for those may not encounter with UOA before.
This point need to be more factual as it may sound be a bit slanderous.

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 22 2010, 04:41 PM)
Bangsarsouth prices very much lower than SG when they launch.


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I agree on this point.  What happens for a buyer that is considering 288 and SG, but decides to try out SG.  2 months later, UOA give inferior specs, the buyer will miss buying good units in 288.


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This point need to be more factual as it may sound be a bit slanderous.
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I believe we have to take responsibility to our own decisions made, if u decided to wait out for SG but turn out, missing out on 288, we have our self to question. The uncertainties and opportunities cost is part of the risk that we have to bear.

People need not only express their opinions, but please justify the points, so that it doesn't sounds too bias.

Also, bashing on UOA won't get the problem solve and undo the damage, give constructive feedback please. U may not agree with me, but I believe that is the right things to do.

Cheers
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I believe we have to take responsibility to our own decisions made, if u decided to wait out for SG but turn out, missing out on 288, we have our self to question. The uncertainties and opportunities cost is part of the risk that we have to bear.

I do not disagree with you on your point of view. However, my statement point to the basis that UOA is pre launching a product without proper approvals, specs, design which can be very misleading to buyers. Buyers trust in good faith what is said by the SA due to the reputation of UOA. They then made comparison with 288 and decide their booking.

However along the way, the design changes (even from day 1 to day 2), finishing now uncertain as Bangsarsouth benchmark may not be expected, and of late, there will be a major design change to unit 1 and 16. Don't know how much more changes before it is finalized. If the final product is far more superior than 288, it is OK, but what if it turns out worst than expected? We are buying a house and not punting our luck. This is my unbiased view so far.

So to UOA, please buck up and proof what is said here is wrong by delivering a greater product.





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So to UOA, please buck up and proof what is said here is wrong by delivering a greater product.


Concur. Edit: yeh, post 100 rclxms.gif

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I will try to compare another thread for SG vs 288 Deathmatch.


Cannot find this thread. Where is it?
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Cannot find this thread.  Where is it?
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Is Setapak Green condo or only an apartment? From the facilities, it has only swimming pool and some basic facilities like gym. No tennis courts, squash court and others. Even Genting Court Apartment (look like low cost apartment now) nearby have swimming pool, 2 tennis courts and a clubhouse. IOI is launching in Puchong soon apartments with swimming pool and clubhouse. Subang Goodyear court apartments also have swimming pool and clubhouse. Is this something buyers have been misled as condo but actually a good mid cost apartment only? I am not referring in particular SG but also 288 and other development as well.
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today i going the site there,UOA already put the office at there ...but not sure when they open lo....
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i thinks 1480sq.ft is 3A or 05 izit?
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today i going the site there,UOA already put the office at there ...but not sure when they open lo....
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Glad to hear that, keep everyone posted if there's any updates


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Is Setapak Green condo or only an apartment?  From the facilities, it has only swimming pool and some basic facilities like gym.  No tennis courts, squash court and others.  Even Genting Court Apartment (look like low cost apartment now) nearby have swimming pool, 2 tennis courts and a clubhouse.  IOI is launching in Puchong soon apartments with swimming pool and clubhouse. Subang Goodyear court apartments also have swimming pool and clubhouse. Is this something buyers have been misled as condo but actually a good mid cost apartment only?  I am not referring in particular SG but also 288 and other development as well.
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hmm.... facilities..... im not sure with the others, tennis court and squash seems to be kind of redundant because seldom anyone playing them, even if there's any, it will be the minorities. Also, not to forget the cost of keeping up these facilities. to me, simple facilities such as swimming pool, gym or even sauna, will be much preferred by the majority. What for having a ping pong table if majority of them never play pingpong.

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Yep
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Sunnie you have took 1?
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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 23 2010, 03:21 PM)
Is Setapak Green condo or only an apartment?  From the facilities, it has only swimming pool and some basic facilities like gym.  No tennis courts, squash court and others.  Even Genting Court Apartment (look like low cost apartment now) nearby have swimming pool, 2 tennis courts and a clubhouse.  IOI is launching in Puchong soon apartments with swimming pool and clubhouse. Subang Goodyear court apartments also have swimming pool and clubhouse. Is this something buyers have been misled as condo but actually a good mid cost apartment only?  I am not referring in particular SG but also 288 and other development as well.
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the more facilities you get, the more you need to pay to maintain those facilities. not main main, you will be paid alot to maintain them, otherwise, they will be eyesore and can affected the entire condominium.

prefer UOA provide basic facilities will do.

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there more facilities you get, the more you need to pay to maintain those facilities. not main main, you will be paid alot to maintain them, otherwise, they will be eyesore and can affected the entire condominium.

prefer UOA provide basic facilities will do.
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Maybe SG & 288 can share some common facilities.... rclxms.gif

At least i knew 222 get swimming pool view from SG

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Maybe SG & 288 can share some common facilities....  rclxms.gif

At least i knew 222 get swimming pool view from SG
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222 got indoor swimming pool....i belive some SG's units can get the view to it...LOL...

samething, 222 units can get the views of SG's landscape park and also the ground outdoor swimming pool.

LOL
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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 24 2010, 01:45 AM)
the more facilities you get, the more you need to pay to maintain those facilities. not main main, you will be paid alot to maintain them, otherwise, they will be eyesore and can affected the entire condominium.

prefer UOA provide basic facilities will do.
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I agree with you on the usage and practicability for the facilities. However, one of my friends wanting to rent out his condo in Bangsarsouth to an expat , but was turned down because the facilities is only having swimming pool, gym, and a mini sauna. For the same price, most of the luxurious condo, have in addition, tennis courts and squash at least. These facilities are usually taken away because developer could save more costs or make more $$.

What I am trying to imply here is that the more facilities available, the higher is the perceived value of the condo for both rental or resale.

No one agree to this?


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the more facilities you get, the more you need to pay to maintain those facilities. not main main, you will be paid alot to maintain them, otherwise, they will be eyesore and can affected the entire condominium.

prefer UOA provide basic facilities will do.
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PV got tennis and squash courts or not?


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today i going the site there,UOA already put the office at there ...but not sure when they open lo....
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Ready or not? So fast?


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Sunnie you have took 1?
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Maybe many more. tongue.gif

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hahah. im new to all this property thing, thats one thing im very curious, here's the question:

i've seen alot of new launch they have drawings to shows "proposed Tesco",or proposed new entrance, how do we check the validity and feasibility behind it?

I've seen one in 288 drawings, where proposed tesco at platinum area there, so is just just marketing trick? or they really knew something that we public do not know, or we public too can simply find it out with a few phone calls?

Last buy not least, should i create another thread for this?

ok, i 've decided to make a new one @ http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1611823 - How to check the opportunity?, Proposed Tesco? Proposed flyover?

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Just read the latest article of The Edge. UOA in the article about Bangsar South, makes reference to Setapak Green and Plaza Prima as apartment projects while, Prima Setapak and Prima Setapak II, Bangsar South Park Residence as Condo projects. So just wonder how UOA classify Condos and Apartments. Wonder what to expect on the specs now.

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Just read the latest article of The Edge.  UOA in the article about Bangsar South, makes reference to Setapak Green and Plaza Prima as apartment projects while, Prima Setapak and Prima Setapak II, Bangsar South Park Residence as Condo projects.  So just wonder how UOA classify Condos and Apartments.  Wonder what to expect on the specs now.
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I dont like the sound of it. So, its an apartment now?

Webby,do u mind to share with us the related excerpt from the article?
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I dont like the sound of it. So, its an apartment now?

Webby,do u mind to share with us the related excerpt from the article?
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Will try to scan the article later.
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Here is the excerpt from The Edge, City and Country section.

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I wondered UOA knows what they meant by condo or apartment.
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Will try to scan the article later.
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Apartment oso need to be so expensive?400k++ For An Apartment?
If this is Services Apartment i accept for this price...
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Apartment oso need to be so expensive?400k++ For An Apartment?
If this is Services Apartment i accept for this price...
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Definite not service apartment as this is residential land. So either condo or apartment.

If this project is going to be called Setapak Green Apartment, it sounds very low class at a high class price!!! Another spanner in the works???

So buyers, if you wish to buy make sure it is stated as Condo and not apartment when you sign the S&P.

I believe the stakeholder payment state Setapak Green Condo. Rite or wrong?

That's why the confirmed specs is needed. Name needed too.

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UOA is not innovative enough in design. Most of the condo projects in setapak (not sure of UOA other projects) has the same concept, unit from one end can see the unit from the other end, no privacy and like those low cost apartments. Not like other condos, 4 units sharing the same lifts.

And setapak green categorized as apartment is not so attractive anymore.... just wonder why it's so..... emm.... only UOA has the answer...

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UOA is not innovative enough in design.  Most of  the condo projects in setapak (not sure of UOA other projects) has the same concept, unit from one end can see the unit from the other end, no privacy and like those low cost apartments.  Not like other condos, 4 units sharing the same lifts.

And setapak green categorized as apartment is not so attractive anymore....    just wonder why it's so.....  emm.... only UOA has the answer...
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HL3 r u a buyer?
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UOA need to clarify this. I;m not gonna buy 400k apartment.
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Ready?so fast?

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Maybe many more.  tongue.gif
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not sure o...i saw a container and a large banner.

Maybe Change to 288 more Better.... laugh.gif

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in the offer letter it stated Condo or apartment?
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UOA need to clarify this. I;m not gonna buy 400k apartment.
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How to clarify? Everything now is still not confirmed mah....... Stressful har!!!
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For reasonable doubt, the edge ppl might get it wrong. If we email UOA, will they reply?
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in the offer letter it stated Condo or apartment?
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Letter of invitation just state Setapak Green project. Letter from Stakeholder, states Setapak Green Condominium. The Edge states Setapak Green is apartment just like Plaza Prima, but Prima Setapak and Prima Setapak II are condos. I cannot believe this is happening to a reputable company like UOA.


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For reasonable doubt, the edge ppl might get it wrong. If we email UOA, will they reply?
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I agree with you. So if you are a buyer you have every right to know. But will UOA confirmed anything or more likely to ask to wait till S&P.

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 24 2010, 10:46 PM)
Letter of invitation just state Setapak Green project.  Letter from Stakeholder, states Setapak Green Condominium.  The Edge states Setapak Green is apartment just like Plaza Prima, but Prima Setapak and Prima Setapak II are condos.  I cannot believe this is happening to a reputable company like UOA.


Added on October 24, 2010, 10:48 pm
I agree with you.  So if you are a buyer you have every right to know.  But will UOA confirmed anything to ask to wait till S&P.
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You wanna email to them? I think even if they confirm Setapak Green is indeed condominium, i believe damage has been made.
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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 24 2010, 10:46 PM)
Letter of invitation just state Setapak Green project.  Letter from Stakeholder, states Setapak Green Condominium.  The Edge states Setapak Green is apartment just like Plaza Prima, but Prima Setapak and Prima Setapak II are condos.  I cannot believe this is happening to a reputable company like UOA.


Added on October 24, 2010, 10:48 pm
I agree with you.  So if you are a buyer you have every right to know.  But will UOA confirmed anything or more likely to ask to wait till S&P.
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pal, is it really important to clarify whether it's apartment or condo? I have a foreigner friend who said this : "I jz bought an apartment in Mont kiara, it costs about RM 2.5 million.

another rich bugger told me this :" I have few flats in HK. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 24 2010, 10:46 PM)
Letter of invitation just state Setapak Green project.  Letter from Stakeholder, states Setapak Green Condominium.  The Edge states Setapak Green is apartment just like Plaza Prima, but Prima Setapak and Prima Setapak II are condos.  I cannot believe this is happening to a reputable company like UOA.


Added on October 24, 2010, 10:48 pm
I agree with you.  So if you are a buyer you have every right to know.  But will UOA confirmed anything or more likely to ask to wait till S&P.
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Well, i dun have 400k sitting in the bank waiting to sign S&P, i believe most ppl dont.

Buying a property require planing, and i need to know what im gonna buy, before i try to form out some funds for it.
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HL3 r u a buyer?
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Not yet. But now I hesitate and wish to hold back 1st.
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QUOTE(Dunbshy @ Oct 24 2010, 10:55 PM)
pal, is it really important to clarify whether it's apartment or condo? I have a foreigner friend who said this  : "I jz bought an apartment in Mont kiara, it costs about RM 2.5 million.

another rich bugger told me this :" I have few flats in HK. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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This is Setapak you are talking about. I bought a sampan, sure its diff from a yatch, no matter where i bought it from, or where i park my boat.

but, tongue.gif i got your point.

But still if the letter from stakeholder stated condo, and now in the article it stated apartment, i'm sure it require clarification.

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 24 2010, 10:57 PM)
Well, i dun have 400k sitting in the bank waiting to sign S&P, i believe most ppl dont.

Buying a property require planing, and i need to know what im gonna buy, before i try to form out some funds for it.
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I fully agree. I spoke to a few other buyers and they are quite furious. Nevertheles, a clarification is required. So stay cool!!!


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This is Setapak you are talking about. I bought a sampan, sure its diff from a yatch, no matter where i bought it from, or where i park my boat.

but,  tongue.gif i got your point.

But still if the letter from stakeholder stated condo, and now in the article it stated apartment, i'm sure it require clarification.
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OK, U check it out an let us know. biggrin.gif

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Email send. Now we wait.
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Email send. Now we wait.
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Carlhoe:  Wow - that is surprising!  But I don't really understand what you mean by "fire safety" - like hose reel, fire extinguisher, etc?  These are authority requirements - all developers need to include these things in, if not they cannot get CF.
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Hi,

sorry not to mention well here. For your information, i just got the information from the committee of my apartments (i am not the member of committee). The committee taken over from them and just have to renew the fire insurance, but just heard from committee said we have to pay more due to the safety factor not being installed. i am wondering too to get CF last time. hence, a bit dissapointed. Somemore my sanitary parts in toilet was not installing with good quality parts (broken within 2 month which borne by end user as claimed by developer). I just want to share, those so called good and well known developer might not deliver the good stuff at the end, somemore just look at the paper with so many factors migth be changed? I suppose those hard money earner should bet the money on those paper? well, there is nothing wrong as investment is always taking the risk to have better or worst product at last which we need to make sharp decision earlier or later merely.


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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 24 2010, 01:45 AM)
the more facilities you get, the more you need to pay to maintain those facilities. not main main, you will be paid alot to maintain them, otherwise, they will be eyesore and can affected the entire condominium.

prefer UOA provide basic facilities will do.
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yup.. agreed. however, how about if pay about the same but get lesser facilities?


Added on October 25, 2010, 9:40 am
QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 24 2010, 06:59 AM)
I agree with you on the usage and practicability for the facilities. However, one of my friends wanting to rent out his condo in Bangsarsouth to an expat , but was turned down because the facilities is only having swimming pool, gym, and a mini sauna.  For the same price, most of the luxurious condo, have in addition, tennis courts and squash at least.  These facilities are usually taken away because developer could save more costs or make more $$.

What I am trying to imply here is that the more facilities available, the higher is the perceived value of the condo for both rental or resale.

No one agree to this?


Added on October 24, 2010, 7:01 am
PV got tennis and squash courts or not?


Added on October 24, 2010, 7:03 am
Ready or not?  So fast?


Added on October 24, 2010, 7:04 am
Maybe many more.  tongue.gif
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yes. agreed with it. i have been trying to sell some of my own subsale properties, the more facilities the higher price we can ask for.


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This is Setapak you are talking about. I bought a sampan, sure its diff from a yatch, no matter where i bought it from, or where i park my boat.

but,  tongue.gif i got your point.

But still if the letter from stakeholder stated condo, and now in the article it stated apartment, i'm sure it require clarification.
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well, just share again with you all. I have one property built by UOA too. Before i pay for booking, they mentioned is service apartment and somehow later have been told is only apartment, but i believe many of the residents in my compound not sure the title. well, i have no doubt if you all talking about this issue again in SG.

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Email send. Now we wait.
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SETAPAK GREEN by UOA GROUP. Our site Property Office will be opened from Oct 28, open daily from 10am - 5pm.

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SETAPAK GREEN by UOA GROUP. Our site Property Office will be opened from Oct 28, open daily from 10am - 5pm. Hope to see you there.
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May i know are you from developer or just got the sms from them?

Done with new post.

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May i know are you from developer or just got the sms from them?
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Got SMS. Oh. i realized thats a hp number there, i will take it away, its not appropriate for me to put the hp here.

carlhoe, take away the hp number in the quote, if can, thank you. tongue.gif

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Got SMS. Oh. i realized thats a hp number there, i will take it away, its not appropriate for me to put the hp here.

carlhoe, take away the hp number in the quote, if can, thank you.  tongue.gif
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no, no offend. i just thought u r from developer and i got the same sms from them too. Are they still having 7+1% discount for member?
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no, no offend. i just thought u r from developer and i got the same sms from them too. Are they still having 7+1% discount for member?
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nah, no offend at all. Not sure about the discount. Call the number and ask. biggrin.gif

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no, no offend. i just thought u r from developer and i got the same sms from them too. Are they still having 7+1% discount for member?
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U want to whack some more units? tongue.gif

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difficult to catch the update as rarely check.

anyway in regards of condo and apartment...

the Plaza Prima Setapak is named @ apartment is bcoz it's primarily a service apartment that sits on commercial land.
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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 25 2010, 10:13 PM)
difficult to catch the update as rarely check.

anyway in regards of condo and apartment...

the Plaza Prima Setapak is named @ apartment is bcoz it's primarily a service apartment that sits on commercial land.
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not service apartment la.. to my knowledge...

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u really check tis forum every 2nd...
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Sunnie you have took 1?
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I took 1 unit
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OCBC is one of the panel bankers financing for this project.

you may contact me @0129006488 or pm me.

docs required:
1) booking receipt with proof of developer financing for interest and LVS (legal, valuation, stamp duty fee). -- this is for OCBC to process with DBIS (developer based Interest Scheme)
2) photocopy of I/C - 2 pcs(clear and visible)
3) certificate of higher education (if applying for 40 years, graduate home loan) -- prerequisite: age 21 to 35, have 2 years of working experience
4) bank account 3-6 months consecutive (must be the bank acct where your payroll is deposited)
5) payslips, with company chop and HR certified, EA form or B/BE form
6) KWSP printed at kiosk, not from internet, copy or original also accepted, but need to provide original for mortgage consultant's verification


Added on October 20, 2010, 11:37 amjust PM la.... I believe the early bird thingy still valid
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kok_pun,
I called up SA. According to them OCBC is not their panel. Are you for real or just fishing for customers?
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I took 1 unit
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what unit you took..? smile.gif
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U want to whack some more units? tongue.gif
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took one in 288. me and other frens thinking to grab another one more for investment (not really setapak area).
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same here biggrin.gif
SG X1 & 288 X1
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same here biggrin.gif
SG X1  & 288 X1
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Taikor, I tot you would grab one whole floor of SG.

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Taikor, I tot you would grab one whole floor of SG.
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wow..so rich..haha
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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 26 2010, 10:22 AM)
Taikor, I tot you would grab one whole floor of SG.
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if u help me bayar dp and gong the house i dun mind ah


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wow..so rich..haha
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dun listen him said la ahdoi....

haha

how i wish but no no.

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if u help me bayar dp and gong the house i dun mind ah


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dun listen him said la ahdoi....

haha

how i wish but no no.
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but good enough to have 1 in 288 and 1 in sg lo....hehe
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u oso same ma
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u oso same ma
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haha...just got news from OCBC..approved with BLR-2.2 for 288..how about SG package
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same la .

2.2 but OCBC must buy their MRTA baru ada 2.2 if not maybe lower
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haha...just got news from OCBC..approved with BLR-2.2 for 288..how about SG package
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Is OCBC package for 288 fully flexi?
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haha...just got news from OCBC..approved with BLR-2.2 for 288..how about SG package
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U mean for 288 or SG?
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U mean for 288 or SG?
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for 288


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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 26 2010, 04:29 PM)
same la .

2.2 but OCBC must buy their MRTA baru ada 2.2 if not maybe lower
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nope..just double confirmed with OCBC, they said is not compulsory to buy MRTA at all. They have submitted to appeal for -2.3 anyway, is an extra bonus if can get it.

my tenure is for 36years..how about urs?


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Is OCBC package for 288 fully flexi?
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yes

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So, OCBC = SG panel or not? someone able to clarify this?
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So, OCBC = SG panel or not? someone able to clarify this?
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think u can clarify only with developer, im sure they have answer for you. If they still have no asnwer for it, i doubt on their trust to buyer.
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QUOTE(carlhoe @ Oct 27 2010, 01:23 PM)
think u can clarify only with developer, im sure they have answer for you. If they still have no asnwer for it, i doubt on their trust to buyer.
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I have yet to receive the reply from UOA on the condo / apartment query. I have automation reply, saying that it takes 2 working days and its now already the third day. I am un-convince with their ability to fullfill promises. Why give a time frame, if you are not intend to abide to it anyway? I will post the full email here, when i got the time somewhere this evening.

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 27 2010, 01:39 PM)
I have yet to receive the reply from UOA on the condo / apartment query. I have automation reply, saying that it takes 2 working days and its now already the third day. I am un-convince with their ability to fullfill promises. Why give a time frame, if you are not intend to abide to it anyway? I will post the full email here, when i got the time somewhere this evening.
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well, regarding the condo/aprt issue. i think they are still thinking to figure out the strategy, but do not put high expectation on it as i also one of the victim last time with a project from them.
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They should have reply within the stated time frame to inform / address the query or request for more time for confirmation.

The worst thing is saying nothing, doing nothing.

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 27 2010, 01:50 PM)
They should have reply within the stated time frame to inform address the query or request for more time for confirmation.

The worst thing is saying nothing, doing nothing.
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Good Customer Service = May improve sales = May Improve business
Great products and great value = Great Sales = don't need great customer service

UOA probably thinks SG falls in the second case!!

What do you think?




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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 27 2010, 02:01 PM)
Good Customer Service = May improve sales = May Improve business
Great products and great value = Great Sales = don't need great customer service

UOA probably thinks  SG  falls in the second case!!

What do you think?
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There is no such thing as "Great products and great value = Great Sales = don't need great customer service"
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There is no such thing as "Great products and great value = Great Sales = don't need great customer service"
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Why not try calling them bro. smile.gif
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Why not try calling them bro.  smile.gif
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I (as a banker) prefer in black & white  tongue.gif
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Please make sure the email is from the right level otherwise tak laku. tongue.gif
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