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Investment SETAPAK GREEN RESIDENCES by UOA, Your Enclave for Refresh Living

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carlhoe
post Oct 21 2010, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 21 2010, 11:06 AM)
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Hi,

i have bought a unit from UOA in menjalara, they used to make it corner unit for almost all units. One thing, i dislike UOA is they used to block those nice units and told many story force to buy those 'not nice' unit first then will release out to sell higher price. Somemore now, they are amending their plan and purposely to attack other site with their weakness. Thats why they sure will tell you their goodness to convince u. Anyway, i would say UOA is trust worthy on they end product while i never encounter with any end product from KP, but if they are really the main contractor of st. mary and my habitat, think is should be fine to get the trust from public on their capability by delivering the good quality and on time for sure.

well, just my opinion for you. hope it helps.


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post Oct 21 2010, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(vreis @ Oct 21 2010, 12:03 PM)
Another point to ponder is that being a good main contractor & a good developer is a different ball game. It doesn't guarantee u their development will be great. The only thing it can guarantee is their workmanship & site management.
Being great in main con won't cos the company $$$ since all expenses are borned by developer.
But being a great developer will cos the company $$$ even if there's slight changes. And here's the key point, does the company have strong financial backing for the projects?
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no one know..same like i bought the previous from UOA by just conveying message by the sales agent..who can assure even they told us how good is it?
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post Oct 22 2010, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 21 2010, 10:36 PM)
Lumina Kiara is the first project of its developer....good one..... UOA - buyers urge you to give this kind of quality too...LOL
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i agreed with kh8668. UOA is too rush this time.


Added on October 22, 2010, 9:20 am
QUOTE(mature @ Oct 21 2010, 10:58 PM)
UOA pre-launched without doing preparation. Even worst when they take the bangsar south design as SG. All this just because they want to compete with 288. So, you think this is what a "reputable" company suppose to perform? I'm disappointed.

UOA was doing quite good. But, this time UOA is lousy.
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yes, i think the same way. i am member of UOA and eventually i gave up to place booking in SG but voted to 288. UOA has been rushing to compete with 288 and what they said to buyer is just too fantastic while might not be able to deliver at last (remember all drawing and spec with price is subjected to be changed). Somemore their design is too conservative and sure might be able to deliver same spec as bangsar south residency.

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post Oct 22 2010, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(mature @ Oct 22 2010, 11:12 AM)
understand good contractor is not exact equvalent to good developer. but what kp deliver so far is good interms of package given (design/material/..) and SINCERITY. another hand, what uoa deliver so far is bad. uoa failed to deliver sincerity which is the most important in doing any business. the purpose of launching is just to compete with 288 so that they can earn more $$. i know nothing wrong to earn $$, but always need to consider buyer benefits as FIRST PRIORITY.

kp is good or not? if u want me to judge now, my answer is they did a good job. in future? no one knows. lets see after 3 years what happen.
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well, no matter we buy the house either for investment of personal stay, just buy whatever you like based on the layout design and environment concept which suit to your idea by paying the price for it. both sure have their own good and bad. yes, so far KP what they have delivered is on time and good quality which is no doubt for sure.

i am a bit dissapointed with UOA too this time as what they spoke and trying to crab the buyer in short time by keep changing the design just to attack other developer.
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post Oct 22 2010, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 22 2010, 12:18 PM)
Many have made their opinion clear that they are disapointed with uoa handling of setapak green, that include me, but what done is done, and let's focus on how uoa can deliver to the expectation, especially when the official launch, and final deliveries.

As for kp, I agree that developer and main con plays diff roles, for the benefit of doubts, let's give kp a break and trust them to be good.
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yes. now timing is the most important factor in making decision earlier or later. 2 months later, no one will know the consequences of most unit in 288 being taken up by public or just u grab a better unit in SG.


Added on October 22, 2010, 1:18 pm
QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 14 2010, 11:01 PM)
All the above mentioned should be met by $$$. lol

Be prepared to pay more for maintenance fees and sinking funds before you're expecting much more better upkeep.

288 and 222 - first two years maintenace fee will be charged at RM0.15 per sq ft. third year unknown.

222 units of average size of 1,000 sq ft each, should be 222,000 sq ft x 0.15 = RM33,300
I'm not sure RM33,300 enough to cover the utility bills, landscaping, garden, swimming pool maintenance, guards' fee, property manager, clerk, plumber & etc.
for new condo, it should be ok...said
utilities bills one month = RM5,000,
guards' fee                = RM9,000 (6 persons for 3 shifts *haha RM1,500 each salary to new grad* allowance for good one),
Gardener/upkeeper      = RM2,000 (2 persons)
Clerk                        = RM1,200 (1 person)
Plumber                    = RM1,500 ( 1 person)
Property Manager        = RM5,000 (1 person)
Swimming pool, safety equipment, lifts and building inspection, garbage collection and etc regular checking said RM3,000 per month

total RM25,700

seem like still got extra ya.
UOA - maintenance fee (anyone can share?)
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Sorry, i just read back the information and would like to share with you guys.

I have a property from UOA too. We are the committe who was taking over from UOA. They really bullshit as they have not install the fire safety in the building and we (commitee) have to pay for much more fire insurance and we need to increase the maintainance fees to residents. Sommore, they said the sinking fund and mainatainance fees is not sufficient at all to pay in the compound. so what i want to deliver is their maintainance is the same like other said if KP cant do as good as UOA. well, be fair, just voice out for those may not encounter with UOA before.

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post Oct 25 2010, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(newkidontheblock @ Oct 22 2010, 02:25 PM)
Carlhoe:  Wow - that is surprising!  But I don't really understand what you mean by "fire safety" - like hose reel, fire extinguisher, etc?  These are authority requirements - all developers need to include these things in, if not they cannot get CF.
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Hi,

sorry not to mention well here. For your information, i just got the information from the committee of my apartments (i am not the member of committee). The committee taken over from them and just have to renew the fire insurance, but just heard from committee said we have to pay more due to the safety factor not being installed. i am wondering too to get CF last time. hence, a bit dissapointed. Somemore my sanitary parts in toilet was not installing with good quality parts (broken within 2 month which borne by end user as claimed by developer). I just want to share, those so called good and well known developer might not deliver the good stuff at the end, somemore just look at the paper with so many factors migth be changed? I suppose those hard money earner should bet the money on those paper? well, there is nothing wrong as investment is always taking the risk to have better or worst product at last which we need to make sharp decision earlier or later merely.


Added on October 25, 2010, 9:37 am
QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 24 2010, 01:45 AM)
the more facilities you get, the more you need to pay to maintain those facilities. not main main, you will be paid alot to maintain them, otherwise, they will be eyesore and can affected the entire condominium.

prefer UOA provide basic facilities will do.
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yup.. agreed. however, how about if pay about the same but get lesser facilities?


Added on October 25, 2010, 9:40 am
QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 24 2010, 06:59 AM)
I agree with you on the usage and practicability for the facilities. However, one of my friends wanting to rent out his condo in Bangsarsouth to an expat , but was turned down because the facilities is only having swimming pool, gym, and a mini sauna.  For the same price, most of the luxurious condo, have in addition, tennis courts and squash at least.  These facilities are usually taken away because developer could save more costs or make more $$.

What I am trying to imply here is that the more facilities available, the higher is the perceived value of the condo for both rental or resale.

No one agree to this?


Added on October 24, 2010, 7:01 am
PV got tennis and squash courts or not?


Added on October 24, 2010, 7:03 am
Ready or not?  So fast?


Added on October 24, 2010, 7:04 am
Maybe many more.  tongue.gif
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yes. agreed with it. i have been trying to sell some of my own subsale properties, the more facilities the higher price we can ask for.


Added on October 25, 2010, 9:56 am
QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 24 2010, 11:00 PM)
This is Setapak you are talking about. I bought a sampan, sure its diff from a yatch, no matter where i bought it from, or where i park my boat.

but,  tongue.gif i got your point.

But still if the letter from stakeholder stated condo, and now in the article it stated apartment, i'm sure it require clarification.
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well, just share again with you all. I have one property built by UOA too. Before i pay for booking, they mentioned is service apartment and somehow later have been told is only apartment, but i believe many of the residents in my compound not sure the title. well, i have no doubt if you all talking about this issue again in SG.

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post Oct 25 2010, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 25 2010, 10:49 AM)
SETAPAK GREEN by UOA GROUP. Our site Property Office will be opened from Oct 28, open daily from 10am - 5pm. Hope to see you there.
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May i know are you from developer or just got the sms from them?

Done with new post.

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post Oct 25 2010, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 25 2010, 10:55 AM)
Got SMS. Oh. i realized thats a hp number there, i will take it away, its not appropriate for me to put the hp here.

carlhoe, take away the hp number in the quote, if can, thank you.  tongue.gif
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no, no offend. i just thought u r from developer and i got the same sms from them too. Are they still having 7+1% discount for member?
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post Oct 26 2010, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 25 2010, 12:43 PM)
U want to whack some more units? tongue.gif
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took one in 288. me and other frens thinking to grab another one more for investment (not really setapak area).
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post Oct 26 2010, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 26 2010, 10:22 AM)
Taikor, I tot you would grab one whole floor of SG.
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wow..so rich..haha
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post Oct 26 2010, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 26 2010, 11:30 AM)
if u help me bayar dp and gong the house i dun mind ah


Added on October 26, 2010, 11:31 am
dun listen him said la ahdoi....

haha

how i wish but no no.
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but good enough to have 1 in 288 and 1 in sg lo....hehe
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post Oct 26 2010, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 26 2010, 02:01 PM)
u oso same ma
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haha...just got news from OCBC..approved with BLR-2.2 for 288..how about SG package
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post Oct 27 2010, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 26 2010, 08:50 PM)
U mean for 288 or SG?
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for 288


Added on October 27, 2010, 10:25 am
QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 26 2010, 04:29 PM)
same la .

2.2 but OCBC must buy their MRTA baru ada 2.2 if not maybe lower
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nope..just double confirmed with OCBC, they said is not compulsory to buy MRTA at all. They have submitted to appeal for -2.3 anyway, is an extra bonus if can get it.

my tenure is for 36years..how about urs?


Added on October 27, 2010, 10:27 am
QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 26 2010, 06:34 PM)
Is OCBC package for 288 fully flexi?
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yes

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post Oct 27 2010, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 27 2010, 12:55 PM)
So, OCBC = SG panel or not? someone able to clarify this?
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think u can clarify only with developer, im sure they have answer for you. If they still have no asnwer for it, i doubt on their trust to buyer.
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post Oct 27 2010, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 27 2010, 01:39 PM)
I have yet to receive the reply from UOA on the condo / apartment query. I have automation reply, saying that it takes 2 working days and its now already the third day. I am un-convince with their ability to fullfill promises. Why give a time frame, if you are not intend to abide to it anyway? I will post the full email here, when i got the time somewhere this evening.
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well, regarding the condo/aprt issue. i think they are still thinking to figure out the strategy, but do not put high expectation on it as i also one of the victim last time with a project from them.
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post Oct 27 2010, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 27 2010, 02:22 PM)
Please make sure the email is from the right level otherwise tak laku. tongue.gif
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yes, agreed with calling straight away to their main office in UOA jalan pinang
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post Oct 27 2010, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 27 2010, 02:01 PM)
Good Customer Service = May improve sales = May Improve business
Great products and great value = Great Sales = don't need great customer service

UOA probably thinks  SG  falls in the second case!!

What do you think?
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i dun agree with the statement as well. Customer always come in the first place always, or else no more reputation from public one day.
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post Oct 27 2010, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Cannon1314 @ Oct 27 2010, 02:57 PM)
the site office will open in tomorrow....but all the things is same ...
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u mean SG? i saw there is a place for office last weekend at site in SG.
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post Oct 27 2010, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 27 2010, 04:03 PM)
ya me 2 ask for -2.3 but i take 20 years. wat other bank u trying????
i oso got try uob and cimb and ambank
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CIMB and UOB not panel so i didnt apply..HSBC and have approved too by giving same package and figth for -2.3 now by lower login period.

other than OCBC..what bank have offered u?
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post Oct 27 2010, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 27 2010, 04:14 PM)
cimb and uob for SG is panel wo...
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ic...i gave up SG eventually..goes for only 288.

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