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post Oct 11 2010, 04:38 PM

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222/288 view to KLCC does not block by Setapak Green. However, SG 's genting view is blocked by 222.

Try to check using google earth or google map.
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post Oct 13 2010, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 13 2010, 12:20 PM)
er haha later i go check..

how to make this poll? let me explore...
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Also check out how many buy for flipping vs own-stayed..hahahaha

my vote: I bought 222 for flipping

SG is about 50m away from 222/288.

10k just enough for kitchen cabinet I think plus two pieces of shower screen.

288 got also provide two huge mirrors in bathrooms. those mirrors I think already cost 1.0k

master bedroom got one aircond and centralised hot water system (these I think already cost about 4.0k)

fridge, micro-oven, etc easily cost 10k to 15k. maybe 016 can get some discount from electrolux. lol

by the way, reality is 222+288+445=955 new units will be ready by 2013/2014.

to those who bought it for flipping like me, mind to share your exit plan...hahaha

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post Oct 13 2010, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 13 2010, 03:28 PM)
Enlighten me, let say the selling price for 288 unit, = RM500,000, - discount 5% = RM475,000, what is the expected selling price, as a flipper?

I think maybe we should change the title of the post to "Death Match - Setapak Green (UOA) vs 288 (KP property)"  icon_idea.gif
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haha...good topic title..lol


288 vs SG (sized From 1300 sq ft to 1800 sq ft)

222 ( 860sf to 1,200sq ft) - cannot beat them...hahaha


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post Oct 13 2010, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(Propertyguy @ Oct 13 2010, 08:44 PM)
Do u guys know if there have any plan for any expansion on the LRT or something... If there do I might consider... or else I am consider to move out from this area, can u imagine after 2 to 3 years this will be a worst nightmare liao... rclxub.gif
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haha..traffic jam everywhere in klang valley.. new car selling volumn increase month by month, year by year. Congested area always ONG ONG ma...hahaha

added: every locality got its buyers / fancies... KL city centre is not only the place for you to work at soon. if you worked in shah alam, better stay at shah alam lo. why make yourself susah to travel. anyway, it is your personal choices. who cares!

Setapak area is heading to 400psf ...lol......i believe such new good quality product will deserve it at setapak area, supported by inflation as well.

angkong popi.....down the road to 2013/2014, what will our world likely to be?

by the way, soho unit Zetapark @ KL festival mall already hitting 500psf. Although a small soho unit, i believe the next last phase will be around 1,200sf serviced apartment and selling price to be awaiting to annouce next year.

KL festival Mall will be ready in 2Q 2011.

http://www.myrealestate.com.my/viewtopic.php?t=14978

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post Oct 13 2010, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 13 2010, 09:12 PM)
Someone quoted 4 banks so I wonder which ones besides the Camel.
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Webby, you also got one unit for yourself?


288
Entry Cost only 5% after discount and then can sign SPA
loan agreement fee waived (stamp duty also waived if not mistaken)
so 490k, you only down about 25k to own a unit of 288 sized 1408sf

SG
Entry cost still 10% based on SPA price (SPA price = developer offer price - 7%)
No loan agreement free nor stamp duty free? (please confirm)
So 420k (lowest floor, 1st floor?), after 7% discount, u get 390k, downpayment 39k. plus loan agreement fee + stamp duty fee (around said 6K)..total down 45k

different 45k-25k=20k cash, maybe can buy carpark? any advice?

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post Oct 13 2010, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 13 2010, 09:40 PM)
ya hidden830726 just went there and kena racun.
so i oso bought 1 for flipping :S not many left

din really count how many left. 
just get the smallest 1408
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Congrate......join our family as flipper..hahaha...

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post Oct 13 2010, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 13 2010, 09:46 PM)
but 1 thing hor.....

next to 288 is those lian jia wu (low cost appmt)....

erm... now think back.... nanti susah flip oh :S
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hehehe..then you should make your decision now lo before SPA signed...hahaha


contoh lian jia wu area in SS2/72....for your case study...kekeke

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post Oct 13 2010, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 13 2010, 09:48 PM)
can sell to low cost owner who wants to upgrade lor  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif


Added on October 13, 2010, 9:51 pm
why consider 288 for flip when you can consider SG for flip too??
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ya lo laugh.gif hahahaha

collect rental also easy ma... thumbup.gif

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Grats. no matter 288 or sg,if for stay then future neighbour le... as for the low cost apartment, side by side, then it further enhance 288 futuristic design.

Damm, this is 288 thread or Sg thread. hahhaha



hahaha.....288+SG+222+Berlian++lowcost all are neighbours.

Complement to each other

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post Oct 13 2010, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 13 2010, 09:57 PM)
eh ss2 got lian jia wu 1 meh? paiseh la me Buta PJ...

u le kh8668 u beli face klcc de ma? me beli face genting nia sad.gif
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kekekeke...i bought in 222 not 288, limited bullets can use..kekekeke

facing klcc, need to walk out from balcony then only can see the jagung. sitting inside the unit hardly to see any, kl view only lo.

by the way, 288 genting view should be better (for those higher floor units). SG totally kena block by 222 for genting view direction.


I have checked with google earth. you can check too, perhaps someone can do the research too.


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post Oct 13 2010, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:00 PM)
Diversify is fine but what is the track record of KP in building condo or service apartment.  I am not saying UOA is great but at least they have some experience though not really luxurious ones.


Added on October 13, 2010, 10:02 pm
Better flip both and stay in the low cost apartment next door.  Same location and high enough get KLCC view too. tongue.gif
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hahaha...kp is newborn developer, slowly develop its business to property development as well.

same story to G residence 's developer (which business in construction and cements).

YTL also divert its business to more sector from construction. hehehehe


UOA is a public listed company, track record sure keng keng one. no doubt. good one.

however, everyone also got one time new la, the most important thing is the attitude they adopt to themselves and also to their customers.

KP serious or not to develop its project, this you have to judge yourself from what they had done so far.
I bought KP property, and KP belanja me makan 3 kali liao. kekekeke....i always makan makan free one from launching except UOA (minium saja, ambil sendiri also).

buying property, yours decision. good one

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post Oct 13 2010, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(106127 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:12 PM)
THIS project is not form flippers!
those buying to flip might got burn or with little profit only.
By the time VP, the market is saturated and with 70% LVR ,

just pray hard k.

2 huge mirrors cost 1.0k?? OMG....


Added on October 13, 2010, 10:16 pm

normally UOA will deduct 1k
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0106...if you know how much the mirror cost, mind to share with us..hahaha....

size maybe 5ftx4ft or 5ftx3.5ft

2 pieces....kekekeke
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post Oct 13 2010, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(0106127 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:21 PM)
Webby88,
the developer of 222 claims that it only takes 15 minutes to KLCC from 222!!!  rclxms.gif
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hahaha....from main unit door - go to tekan lift button - get down to carparking bay - take your car and drive out to the guardhouse already 15min...lol

LRT? I hope if got LRT also not too close to 222...kekeke....maybe 500m away should be better to me....hahaha

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post Oct 13 2010, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Oct 13 2010, 10:26 PM)
30-40 minutes from 222/288 to klcc enuf la during 8am-10am peak time. tak payah 1 hour.

by the way this threaad really hot leow... icon_idea.gif

erm.. how 2 make poll?
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yeah..every new property thread is hot...kekeke...from starting discuss the bad and good of the project -argument about overpriced or cheap- then goes to decide to buy or not buy - place booking - all units fully booked - loan applied - and then all waiting for completion - and then VP - reno - moved in and TUTP thread...kekeke...

after this, new property come out, newer price newer concept - the discussion goes all around again...hahaha


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post Oct 13 2010, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(106127 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:31 PM)
definitely wont cost 1.0k

its only 37.5sf
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hahaha...maybe it will cost RM25 per sq ft inclusive installation?
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post Oct 13 2010, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(wonghs @ Oct 13 2010, 11:26 PM)
This is all KP's fault. If not for 222/288, UOA wont priced SG at this kind of price in this location. If you can notice at the show gallery, UOA seems take this "battle" without much preparation.
1) No model
2) Specs not that confirm
3) 2 car parks? Also not 100% confirm
4) Brochure pun tak de
Only the price match 288, i.e. high price

If UOA dint take any concrete decision by Jan (b4 signing SPA), i bet some of the purchaser will pull out...

Just my 2 cents.

kh, FYI, UOA is not listed in Malaysia.
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I didn't mention UOA is listed in Malaysia wor...hahaha...i mentioned only UOA is a public listed company.

no matter how bad it is....sooner or later all units will be snapped up by flippers....LOL

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post Oct 14 2010, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(Avatar1980 @ Oct 14 2010, 12:43 AM)
Basically i have a few concern in respect of the above properties..

1) There is no way that Jalan Gombak  tunnel ( to jalan pahang) can be extended anymore ? it might cause the traffic jam terribly

2) SG has not come out with FULL detail infor about the property, as such i doubt that whether they will change the layout or PRICE anytime. I went to the showroom on last Fri and that the Sales Manager informed me that the floor area is about 1300- 1400 ONLY. But end up the second day, as claim by them, they have changed the layout OVERNIGHT just to offer a better layout . (i doubt that how true it is.. and the the architect managed to changed the layout OVERNIGHT , salute them !! )

3) No details of the loan package being advised so i am wondering whether i need to proceed with my loan application and bear in mind, the PRICE may not be finalised. How to apply leh ?

4) My concern is the density of the properties. Having 400 over unit the particular land, could it be too high ?

5) VIsitors parking may be one of the issue . As we all know, always the car park does not serve the residents population. IF happen that the visitor car park is FULL, where can i expect the other visitors to park their car.


Added on October 14, 2010, 12:45 am

I agree. Those who book the units from 1-6/7 corner unit neside the car park, please do not expect to have ur nice KLCC view coz it is blocked entirely by the car park after the REVISED layout.


Added on October 14, 2010, 12:49 am
I find that 288 design bit  funny as the toilet is hiding inside the so called utility room ..if happen i convert it to a maid room meaning every now and then i have to VISIT my maid before i go toilet lo ...

How realiable is KP ... i understand tht 222 and 288 is their first project . THough they have experience in buiding High End Condo , but they were only main con not developer ... so please take into consideration of this if you have taken 288.
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Everyone got chance to learn how to be a good developer. Developer is not a person but a group of people/profesional. It's not hard to get right person to help out in developing a project. I don't see it is difficult for KP to learn to be a good developer. They worked with a number of well-known developers in the country, they should know how to do. as long as you can pay the money, sure lot of profesional will work for you, team up and make the project succesful.

So I don't see that is a major problem, or I should say it is not even can consider as an issue. all the major problem is only $$$.

cheer

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post Oct 14 2010, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(Avatar1980 @ Oct 14 2010, 01:24 AM)
i understan everyone deserve a chance but every chance has the price . as a purchaser i think i deserve a right to enquire more about the developer ..
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Sure....as I said buy property, your own decision. Buy with your comfort....

hahaa...cheer
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post Oct 14 2010, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 14 2010, 10:22 PM)
imo, 288 more for soho, newly wed, couple, etc

SG is more for Family, older couple etc.

Also, 288 1 carpark given, while SG give 2.

freebies i reckon almost the same (if UOA deliver), also, the diff in price between 288 and SG (same level, same view) will allow renovation
If im u, i will get SG, SG got garden, after a stressfulday of work, Garden seems perfect.  cool2.gif


Added on October 14, 2010, 10:24 pm

Prima Setapak, Prima Setapak II, Plaza Prima Setapak, etc

See here: http://www.uoa.com.my/track_residential.php
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Quality wise....both can delivery good one.

Price wise...both are almost the same.


Enty cost wise....KP offers you low entry while UOA still need you to fork out more for dwonpayment.

Game is so easy...if you're not willing to fork out more downpayment, go for KP otherwise go for UOA.

the different downpayment for a unit between kp and uoa can allow u purchase another carpark in kp's condo. (if the carpark price is not over 25k each.


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post Oct 14 2010, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 14 2010, 10:41 PM)
For good track records, one need to have at least the following besides completing the project:

1.  Maintenance and upkeep of the Condo
2.  Wide facilities provided in the condo
3.  The security and safety aspect
4.  The parking orientation (some haphazard, narrow, dark, low ceiling), enough visitor parking.  Some developer sells even the visitor carpark.
5.  Condo design and finishing/furnishing - some very low cost with outdated design, some look like low / medium cost apartment
6.  Tasteful landscaping and Aesthetics
7.  Proper enforcements

Now which of UOA condo meets the above criteria?  I really don't know.  Can anyone who has experience with UOA condo comment?
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All the above mentioned should be met by $$$. lol

Be prepared to pay more for maintenance fees and sinking funds before you're expecting much more better upkeep.

288 and 222 - first two years maintenace fee will be charged at RM0.15 per sq ft. third year unknown.

222 units of average size of 1,000 sq ft each, should be 222,000 sq ft x 0.15 = RM33,300
I'm not sure RM33,300 enough to cover the utility bills, landscaping, garden, swimming pool maintenance, guards' fee, property manager, clerk, plumber & etc.
for new condo, it should be ok...said
utilities bills one month = RM5,000,
guards' fee = RM9,000 (6 persons for 3 shifts *haha RM1,500 each salary to new grad* allowance for good one),
Gardener/upkeeper = RM2,000 (2 persons)
Clerk = RM1,200 (1 person)
Plumber = RM1,500 ( 1 person)
Property Manager = RM5,000 (1 person)
Swimming pool, safety equipment, lifts and building inspection, garbage collection and etc regular checking said RM3,000 per month

total RM25,700

seem like still got extra ya.


UOA - maintenance fee (anyone can share?)


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post Oct 14 2010, 11:08 PM

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[quote=webby88,Oct 14 2010, 10:41 PM]

[QUOTE]Now which of UOA condo meets the above criteria? I really don't know. Can anyone who has experience with UOA condo comment?
I though KP is not selling any carpark? ARe they selling off the visitors carpark just like many Ah Beng developer with no visitors carpark? If KP do this, they are not doing justice to other residents staying there.[/QUOTE]

haha....mana mana developer also selling carparks. actually visitor carparks should not be sold as it will be part of JMB.

building cost of carpark now is expensive.

DBKL 's planning guideline for building condo should be 2 carpark for one unit plus 20% of visitors' carpark, however, developer will only attached a unit of carpark to the purchased unit, any extra carpark, they might sell to you.

buy if you got offer carpark as it can help you to generate income. kekeke

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