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post Sep 13 2010, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(everling @ Sep 13 2010, 10:40 AM)
What SSD was that? And the read speed exceeds SATA 3.0 Gbps.
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SATA3 has 6Gbps theoritical bandwidth, should see around 580~600MBps peak in practical use, that benchmark probably hitting 60%+ of the total bandwidth, so it's ok.
RAID0 few of it and hit the max.
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post Sep 29 2010, 12:07 PM

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The problem in Malaysia is there's less to no distributor to some great and/or rare items, that's why it's so expensive, it's also sort of monopolize.
Even the value items will become not-so-value when it came into Malaysia, and at the East here, we suffer more than just the conversion, shipping from West already cost us, even worst some retailer just don't want to import the stuff I wanted... *sigh*
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post Oct 20 2010, 02:49 PM

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Write speed is as important as in extracting files, installing application, anything that require saving/writing to the disk space.
For most gamer, write is not as important, it reads most of time, seldom writes unless it saves game.
But people use SSD not because of their speed, it's because of their 1ms or less access time.
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post Oct 22 2010, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(S E K A I @ Oct 22 2010, 03:51 PM)
Guys, a question here, just got some bucks to spend on ssd lol sweat.gif

Which one is better compare the 500gb Seagate Momentus XT with 80gb/120gb intel ssd?

We can avoid the price and storage talk here. Just mainly for the performance as I used to open multiple apps and games simultaneously all the time.

If in term of performance, can see any difference in games?

Which is better if I want a continuous write and read drive? I used to transfer a lot of files and accept bigger files 24/7 a day and I keep my PC running for whole month without shut it down. Can this drive last long with it?
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SSD MTBF is quite low compare to HDD, especially the write, but few millions times should be sufficient for normal user, but if you're mainly for 24/7 file-server, I would strongly suggest normal HDD, and especially those eco-green model which not only provide enough speed, but save power and less heat.
If you want performance, then SSD, for the sake of access time, especially I/O intensive programs, I don't see games has much improvement except for slightly faster loading time. But Windows 7 will benefit from it very much, not only boot faster, but starts programs fast as well, plus it can load up to few hundred programs at once without breaking sweat (provided the speed is fast as well).

Conclusion, if you're gamer alone, you won't feel much different when you're in-game, except for faster loading speed, Windows 7 will load faster, no defrag require, pretty much all. However if you're workstation user that uses Photoshop, Autodesk programs, etc lots, then you'll feel the different in using these SSD. Be an efficient consumer, well unless you have those $$ to spend, then no problem at all. brows.gif

Edit: For you case, you can consider 80GB for your Windows 7 and Games, a 30~40GB for Windows and other for Games, and buy another 2TB or 3TB eco green model hard disk for the files transfer, the hard disk should provide enough speed for your 24/7 file server, 1Gbps network speed has no yet break the hard disk speed yet (IMO).

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post Oct 26 2010, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(wiraone @ Oct 26 2010, 09:46 AM)
A bit confused with all the SSD technologies out there. Probably the gurus here could help me. I'm not into the speed, as long as it works as fast as the normal HDD, should be enough. My requirement is .. I need a reliable HDD/SSD which could stand being in the car. I've replaced one WD notebook HDD before and I'm on the second one which is Hitachi 7200rpm notebook HDD. It giving the same symptom as before my WD died, whenever I do cornering whatever I'm playing strutter and having problem during boot/waking up from hibernate. I do have a program which is writing to the HD every 15 minutes or so to record video from my onboard webcam in the car. Main function will be to play audio/video, navigation.

Now from the above, is the cheap Kingston V enough for me or should I go to the GEN2 of SSD (Kingston V+, Intel or that OCZ Vertex2 variation) is the one to go? Don't have much budget for this though. 

Thanks for any input.
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I think your solution is quite easy, anything flash memory will do (no magnetic spinning drive), if you think your space is a concern, you should invest on bigger space SSD, recording video is taking quite lots of space after all.
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QUOTE(awang @ Nov 8 2010, 03:04 PM)
i'm currently using am2 board (asus m2n-e) which i think is only using sata 1.5gbps and my OS is window 7 64bit..

my questions are:
1. does my mobo support SSD? is SSD backward compatible?
2. if it does, does the older sata makes the SSD lost its performance significantly?

thanks
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SATA1 = 150MB/s max theoretically so you'll see significant drop in read, while Intel's write still within the margin, sandforce types will see drops as well, huge bottleneck and waste of $$ so it's recommend with much newer system to fully utilize SSD technology.
If you don't mind the speed, access time will greatly helps you in loading time, which can improve OS, application and IO intensive loading latency. thumbup.gif
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post Nov 9 2010, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(ASAP @ Nov 9 2010, 08:54 AM)
Hi,

I am thinking to get one SSD for my Mac Pro to speed up the loading. I need a 3.5" at least 320gb SSD. May I know where can I get it and where will be the best deal? Thanks.
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You can get 160GB x 2 (haven seen any 320GB model yet) and RAID0, even faster.
Provided your Mac Pro support RAID.
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post Nov 25 2010, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(bean_man @ Nov 25 2010, 11:46 AM)
I think the profile data itself is still in the main drive. Only profile's linked content such as desktop, download, my documents, my videos and so on can be shifted. You will need to change the properties of the folder and redivert it to another drive. Perhaps i was not too clear on my statement....

But 40GB is doable for those unsure if they should be spending RM8xx for the higher capacity drives.
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Ok, I know any folders can be added as default "My Documents", but I didn't knew Desktop can be done as well, teach teach blush.gif
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QUOTE(CalvinCLK @ Nov 25 2010, 01:05 PM)
Right click at My Documents, you will see a Target folder location, change that to your designated folder. smile.gif
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Erm, yeah I know about "My Documents", please teach the "Desktop" one blink.gif
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QUOTE(koolzuru @ Nov 27 2010, 12:17 PM)
is there any benefit by installing games in ssd?
i am thinking on putting my most played game in ssd.(game only, windows in hdd)
is it worth the money?
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If you feel your games loading speed is tremendously slow, then yes it's worth the upgrade to get the lightning blink speed, but I don't see any point of that because nowadays games tend to load ahead when you play so you get smoother gameplay (for some games).
Other than that, gaming performance is not affected.
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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Dec 2 2010, 01:41 PM)
Any comparison charts of DDR2 vs DDR3 performance difference on SSD?
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I don't think that's significant (RAM has over few hundred GB/sec), but chipset (ICH7, ICH9, etc.) might have slight different in bandwidth and speed.
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QUOTE(stevenlee @ Dec 6 2010, 07:10 AM)
just wan to ask...
intel SSD is more slower compare to other brand...
is there any difference in performance for daily use??
or should is go for higher speed like cossair force series?
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I think Intel's SSD only lose out on the writing speed, other than that, read speed is quite normal, almost hitting the SATA2 limits, and the access speed is comparable with those Sandforce, but seriously you won't feel it in real life unless you're working in enterprise web server or huge SQL server.
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Mar 19 2011, 10:41 PM)
is now the good time to buy SSD? wanna get one for sandybridge laptop.

which one the better value? x25m? or newer 510 series? or C300? headache...
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What do you plan on using the SSD for?
If you don't goes up to the benchmarked figures, either SSD won't be much of a different for you, except for the its writing speed.
Might wait until it hits below RM3/GB then maybe get one for my laptop tongue.gif
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post May 31 2011, 12:09 PM

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SSDSA2CT040G3K5 (40GB) = RM315
RM 7.875/GB
SSDSA2CW080G3K5 (80GB) = RM519 
RM 6.487/GB
SSDSA2CW120G3K5 (120GB) = RM683
RM 5.691/GB
SSDSA2CW160G3K5 (160GB) = RM925
RM 5.781/GB
SSDSA2CW300G3K5 (300GB) = RM1675
RM 5.583/GB
Cheapest? >.<" Still quite ouch for some casual consumer like me, but for gamer that can afford, the price point should be around 120GB, not sure why 160GB is slightly much expensive but small different, around RM 5+/GB.
Now date is 31 May, 2011, wonder what's the price for 40~120GB just 1 year ago?
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Ah, my quote, is from the famous....

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jun 1 2011, 04:01 AM)
Please forgive my noobness but what is the different between ordinary SSD with above one? hmm.gif
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PCI-E has better bandwidth and faster I/O between RAM and the SSD.
That SSD if not mistaken can goes up to 1.xGB/s and it really cost you a kidney, not for the consumer perhaps, only serious application server require that amount of bandwidth and IOPS.
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Aug 12 2011, 08:33 AM)
Is SSD a safer place to store data in terms of data corruption or disk failure?
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To answer your question, no, SSD will also fail over time but not because of mechanical failing but software (firmware) failing to works or corrupted just like the OCZ that you read above. It can fail overnight or after 1~2 years, no-one knows.
SSD reliability (long-term) has not been proven yet so no-one can tell you, but Intel does gain its trust through many industrial users.
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QUOTE(WSL999 @ Aug 12 2011, 09:40 AM)
Just one quick question.

My system is running Core i7 first generation @ 4 gb ram & GT240, Windows 7 32Bit Genuine OEM version. It's been 2 years and counting. My general usage of the pc is mainly work, quotation, excel, power point, adobe, outlook and light gaming(Team Fortress 2) for leisure time.

However I find it unsatisfactory with the performance of my. To my thought, to solve the problem should I just upgrade my current Harddisk to Intel SSD 510/310 series? Since I have only 1 partition. C:/ only. I don't store music, movies, pictures in my desktop pc.
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What performance are you looking at here? Transfer speed or access time (response time)?
Can you list out what HDD that you currently using?
FYI you will not see performance in:
1. Processing documents.
2. Gaming performance, but loading does affect by a bit.
3. Some application still takes time to load, cut down by 1~2 seconds only.

And, you could use 64-bit to maximize your RAM, you can use your current license key to install 64-bit win7.
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QUOTE(WSL999 @ Aug 12 2011, 10:17 AM)
Very informative, thank you.

I will look into the matter. Current license key to install 64-bit win7?
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Yes, notice that you're using x86, and you installed 4GB of RAM.
Your current license key able to install onto x64 of the same edition of windows.
If you're using Windows 7 Home Premium x86 now, you can use the license key to install Windows 7 Home Premium x64, it works both way and has been verified.
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QUOTE(Wan @ Aug 12 2011, 12:45 PM)
My laptop's HDD died I think. 40gb is cheap enough for me to splurge. Already using Intel 320 on my PC and I don't think I can go back to using hdd again. Is 40gb enough for win7 64bit, and some office programs(MS Office and maybe Photoshop?)?
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Windows 7 itself require 14GB to install, Office require at least 2~3GB, Photoshop along need around 2GB, so it's enough, but you need cater other things such as page file, hibernate file, temporary files (Internet, Running/Installing programs, Windows Update, etc.) and other files that you will work with.
40GB is enough for fair usage, but you might find space will eventually runs out when you runs it everyday. 80GB to be much secure, 40GB for Windows 7 and programs, the rest documents will be at another partition.

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