Time for a new thread.
what i learnt from the original thread.

Those new at watches do read this 1st
http://www.watcharama.com/glossary.htm

Chronograph and affordable homages (Sub, Pammy, B&R) are big. try to name a few brands, will try my best to update this list

where to find those affordable homages
Sub Homage
- www.mkiiwatches.com
- www.orangewatchcompany.com
- www.steinhartwatches.de
- www.robert-uhren.de
- www.debaufre.com
- www.marcelloc-watches.com
- www.rxw.jp
- www.davosawatches.com

Sub homage similar to the original James Bond watch
- STEINHART "OCEAN 1 VINTAGE"
http://www.steinhartwatches.de/index.php?i...92&Sel_ID=9#192
- http://www.orangewatchcompany.com/milsub/index.php
- MK II Kingston

Pammy Homage
- Vollmer watch
- Aristo
- Dievas watch ( http://gnomonwatches.com/Dievas.html)
- www.rxw.jp
(Asian parts)
- Getat http://www.siswatch727.com/index.do
- Jackson Tse http://www.jacksontse.com/


Bell and Ross Homage
- Junkers
- www.steinhartwatches.de
- www.debaufre.com
- http://www.revue-thommen.ch/instrument.htm

many pilot fans here too
- www.stowa.com
- http://www.lacher-shop.de/e_shop/index.php
- www.archimede-uhren.de
- www.christopherward.co.uk
- Aristo
- http://prometheuswatch.com/

IWC pilot homage
- Speedbird with soft iron core http://www.timefactors.com/speedbird.htm

diver watches
(online only)
- www.christopherward.co.uk
- guinand-watch.com
- http://www.ocean7watchco.com/
- Doxa
- www.mkiiwatches.com
- www.orangewatchcompany.com
- www.steinhartwatches.de
- www.robert-uhren.de
- www.debaufre.com
- www.uhr.info (~rm1k)
- Marathon http://www.broadarrow.net/GSAR.htm
- Bernhardt http://www.bernhardtwatch.com/
- www.boschett-timepieces.com
- www.utswatches.com
- http://www.benaruswatches.com/
- http://prometheuswatch.com/
(in stores)
- Fortis
- Hamilton
- Oris
- Sinn
- Tag Heuer
- Longines
- etc

German watches that invested alot in case and movement tech
- Sinn
- http://www.damasko.de/eng/index.html

small size watches (case 33-38mm size)
- www.christopherward.co.uk (price starts at RM600)
- http://junior.frederique-constant.com/ (prices start at RM2.6K)
- http://www.dfreemontwatches.com/new_yorker.htm
- hamilton watch (Field mechanical size at 33mm) retail price ~rm1.1K
- Seiko Spirit Automatic (size 37mm)
- Titoni (many model range btw 33mm to 38mm) http://www.pmwf.com/Watches/WATCHSALES/TitoniSalesTable.htm
- Stowa Antea Kleine Sekunde (35.5mm) or Stowa Antea 365 (36.5mm)
- nomos club (36mm) retails ~rm4.5K to 5K or Nomos Ludwig (33mm) retails rm$5K and up
- http://www.jswatch.com/enska/urin.html
- http://www.rgmwatches.com/110As.html
- Maurice Lacroix http://www.mauricelacroix.com/#OUR%20CLASSICS
- http://www.archimede-uhren.de/EN/Pilot-S.htm (prices start at ~rm1.5k)
- http://www.autran-viala.de (prices start at ~rm1.4k)

great value Chrono watches
- www.uhr.info (rm$1.6k)
- http://www.genius1953.de/
- Guinand watch

Skeleton watches on swiss movement
- SWATCH under US$180
- http://www.steinhartwatches.de/ (limited edition)
- Oris Artelier Skeleton also US$1.5k an up
- Louis Erard 1931 collection usually usd$1.5K an up
- http://www.tourbywatches.com/ usually EUR$1.1K an up
- Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Skeleton (retailing US$5K an up)

Skeleton or open dial on Jap movement
- Orient watch ~US$350 (not really skeleton, just open dial)
- BULOVA ~US$250 and up (open dial)
- Invicta (some are using Chinese movement)

Skeleton or open dial on Chinese movement
- Invicta
- Armitron
- Kenneth Cole (mostly fashion brands)
- Seagull
- Alpha watch usually under US$100
- Theorema watch usually ~US$200
- TRIAS watch (some swiss movement model cost more, mostly Chinese)

Looking for Japanese Mechanical
- www.seiyajapan.com
- http://www.higuchi-inc.com/
- www.orientwatchusa.com

grey market (online)
- thewatchery.com ( I dealt with them b4)
- ashford.com ( I dealt with them b4)
- collectorstime.com
some others review these shops
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.ph...pic,1383.0.html

http://www.europastar.com/europastar/magaz...t_id=1003545084



a nice chart I find useful


This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 9 2010, 12:26 PM

That pyramid which explains the heirarchy is very good!

wow..new home!!!...hope the old thread still accessible....many precious information there!!

but a bit confused...why is this call poor man/affordable thread?

we also discuss about Omega, Subs, IWCs..also...

will the luxury thread be revived then?

This post has been edited by nando: May 7 2010, 02:51 PM

I just felt 99% of the time ppl here is asking for the affordable stuff.. feel free to post on IWC, PP etc, doubt mod is going to remove it.
well affordable varies from ppl to ppl too.. some its 1k other 10k or more..
there is also a thread in hobbies where ppl ask about Subs, AP etc.. nothing cheap like Citizen, Tissot. the activity there is slow so I kinda play with the name abit to catch attention.

I did also insinuate in quotes... unless thats not understandable by ppl here. mislead too many ppl?

This post has been edited by patryn33: May 8 2010, 08:17 AM

Good one patryn
Please update the following pammy homage in 1st post.
Getat http://www.siswatch727.com/index.do
Jackson Tse http://www.jacksontse.com/

This post has been edited by ck77: May 7 2010, 08:50 PM

Reporting in.
can post some the pics for better illustrations for new buyers.
As many of us guys are watch collectors u may share some of your valuable watches.

The title is not apt at all. When the watches are not affordable as a time telling machine. A poor man could do well reading time with just a RM99 CASIO. So whats gives with the "poor" in the title? You mean you like to accept that beggars do really earn a lot to finance homes and cars just with begging as a job? Since when poor means you could afford a RM1K watch?

cool down bro.....in watch world...the phrase `poor man's watch' is quite acceptable..and common.....its not degradation ..on the contrary....its a phrase to remind the majority of people that watch collecting hobby are not about the Rolex, VCs, APs...but watch collecting can be equally passionate when you're collecting Seikos, ORients or even Casios..

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Added on May 7, 2010, 11:36 pmwe want to see you NEW LACO la....

This post has been edited by nando: May 8 2010, 09:57 AM

You ask for it. First review in thread 2

Been lurking for b-uhr (pilot watch) for few months now. Some history of the original WWII pilot watch can be found here, http://www.calibremagazine.com/node/305

Finally decided on Laco due to its price and originality of the b-uhr. Chose B dial coz I find A dial is too common and plain for my liking.
This is the original spec for B dial b-uhr. 55mm in size! Easily readable and wear outside the flight suit.


Shipping was fast, 3 days from Germany to KL with FedEx.

Special request for no logo dial to reflect the original spirit of b-uhr. 42mm in brushed steel, mineral cystal glass, inner hour markers with outter minute markers. Still getting used to the short hour hand.


Non screw-in onion crown, would not put a mark on the back of your hand like diamond crown.


Polished steel clear case back with mineral cystal. Mitoya 8215 workhorse. Second hand running smoothly, no stutter issue so far (touch wood )


Original pilot strap with rivets. Strap alone costing EUR49.00


Need some times to figure how to wear the strap Strap sitting nicely on my wrist in last hole. People with small wrist might need to request for shorter strap or punch additional holes.


Lume nicely with superluminova.


And lastly, compulsory wrist shot.


Very limited production due to parts availability (or financial difficulty), stocks usually sold off within days.
Laco, one of the 5 original makers of b-uhr, Make in Germany, albeit Japanese movement, EUR166.39 ~RM730 with free FedEx shipping.
Though not as historically correct spec as WUS LE, but I still think that this baby is a steal

This post has been edited by ck77: May 8 2010, 12:22 AM

For me, the best B-Uhr has a light face, beautiful blued hands, and sober numbering.

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Added on May 8, 2010, 12:23 am

This post has been edited by kotmj: May 8 2010, 12:23 AM

love the superluminova is gorgeous.
Maybe this will do some "kick"



My baby

wah i love the lume second effectt omg what kind of poison is this zzzzz

166 euro is not that bad >.>

whats the problem here dude .my England is not there. don't really understand the sentence in bold, felt like its missing a 2nd part..

anyway I just quote an example.. RM$10 U happy? seem like there are lots of bones in a egg U are finding.
since MOD and even yourself have problem with the title.. do feel free to make the appropriate suggestion to get it right.

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Added on May 8, 2010, 8:55 amgreat reviews!
do share your experience with online shopping, ppl are worried with taxes etc.
care to elaborate more on that? didn't get stuck in customs?

This post has been edited by patryn33: May 8 2010, 08:56 AM

Btw ck77, u can also emphasizes on the warranty issue ...where to claim where to get it service...and how much would it cost when dealing with Online purchases..

im still hunting for another watch most prob...Oris, Ball or Tag average model

patryn, as fas as watches are concern, that's tax free in Malaysia. Item reached Sepang at the morning, cleared by custom by noon, reached me at 4.30pm on the same day!

terence, too bad any warranty claim need to send back to Germany. But good news is, Miyota is not a complicated movement and could be serice locally here. If worse come to worse, is not that expensive to change the entire movement!

haha change the entire movement = get a brand new watch is that so.
Tried on Orics BC4.....and is sooo freaking big and heavy...
Now i started to like watches with superluminova

Almost all of the modern watches are lume by superluminova, expect some brands like Ball, Luminox, Lum-Tec etc.

this is euro 199 - Vat = euro 166.39?

This post has been edited by nando: May 8 2010, 06:08 PM

The lume is a beau man, grats

Anyway, just a quick question for you guys. Does anyone know how to resize the leather strap on the Tag Carreras? I got mine almost 2 years back and I have absolutely no recollection on how I adjusted the size back then. I tried tugging on it just like that but it wouldn't budge, and I'm afraid to yank it harder for fear of the whole strap falling apart.

This post has been edited by Chinoz: May 8 2010, 06:41 PM

Awesome shots of your B-uhr watch ck77. There was actually someone in Lowyat.net who was selling the exact same watch, I was very interested but was kinda annoyed at the seller's comments when I asked him if he had the 2824-2 version instead of the Miyota. Ended up not buying it and got myself a Glycine Combat instead.

Anyways, I am very close to ordering a Stowa B-Uhr. For those who have yet to see it, here's the link Stowa Flieger Baumuster B Dial

Stowa has been making A dial Fliegers all this while but their new range will include a B dial! Its size is 40mm, so it's smaller than your Laco. Price wise, it's also a lot higher compared to a Miyota Laco at 630 Euros.

so i wanna ask if i buy my watch to malaysia it will not get taxed by the goverment?pls clarify because if it is not taxed i would love to purchase 1.

thinking of getting this http://www.steinhartwatches.de/index.php?i...ID=18&lang_nr=1

HI Chinoz,

I may provide some help if your carrera is still the same design...

1) Lift up the buckle.
2) Pull/adjust the strap
3) Unlock the buckle to hold the strap position and you're done.

Simple as that...





Hope this helps

Thanks guys
nando, yes the price is after VAT
kelvinftg, yea the Stowa is a real beauty. Things that put me off are their unwillingness of VAT waiver and waiting times.
'-_- as mentioned earlier, watches are duty free here.

This post has been edited by ck77: May 8 2010, 10:58 PM

Hey, can Tissot be discuss in this thread? Wonder how much the price back in Malaysia now?

Hi hguys, recently looking for watch which is not too expensive. Eying on seiko criteria SNDA1P1, seiko SNDB23P1, and casio edifice EFE-500D-1AV. Between this watches, which one is more worth to buy? Reliability, technology and function wise? Not much info from their website. Really noob in watches.

thats not really true. I used to believe that changing a movement = getting a new watch.
today a ETA 2824 (top grade) is at US$118
a miyota 8215 is just US$37. considering the watch cost US$211, U wouldn't wanna throw it out.
http://www.esslinger.com/miyotacitizenquar...vement8215.aspx
http://www.ofrei.com/page_183.html

Superluminova glows brightly when its charges, but it get dimmer with time.
I don't look at my time immed when I go from daylight to total darkness, usually its after sometime. hard to see anytime by that time.
try that in a theater after 1hr into the show/movie.
With age, the glow just isn't there. its also hard to find qualified ppl to do a good relume job.

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Added on May 9, 2010, 9:50 amcertainly! prices vary alot.. depends on what watch u looking at

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Added on May 9, 2010, 9:56 amit would be easier if U post links to those watches.
I tried to google but they are not showing up. only found the casio watch, the casio the dial look messy to me. Seiko and Casio don't have to worry about reliability. quartz watch like these feel like wearing a mini PC. maybe u can give us a break down of the full functions and the cost.
http://www.nzwatches.com/casio-edifice-men-efe-500d-1av
- world time
- alarm
- chronograph
- auto-calendar (to year 2099)


This post has been edited by patryn33: May 9 2010, 10:31 AM

never know that movement can be change and don't really cost that much
but how often a watch movement will get faulty?

Referring Casio watch u just posted..guess i might have shot it somewhere and posted it b4.....

Right it worked. Thanks much

Thanks for your info. The price for casio i not sure, but seiko is around rm1100 before discount. seiko criteria SNDA1P1, seiko SNDB23P1
Seiko

This post has been edited by toktok: May 9 2010, 04:14 PM

very rare

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Added on May 9, 2010, 7:23 pmfeature wise casio offer an additional gmt and auto calendar. id price the same, casio better deal in terms of feature.

This post has been edited by patryn33: May 9 2010, 07:23 PM

you might want to check this online store

davis store

Nice JLC...GMT, Power reserve, etc...



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this is featured in IW magazine
Aviator MiG 29 Axiom Chronograph US$1275
http://www.russia2all.com/aviator-poljot-v..._1375636-m.html



Poljot 3133
http://www.vostok-watches.com/movements-russian-watches.html


This post has been edited by patryn33: May 10 2010, 01:21 AM

Graham look alike and quite pricey for a Russian movement

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Added on May 10, 2010, 9:33 pmEver wanted to get an IWC Mark XV or XVI but couldn't afford it?
Here it is, Speedbird III from Time Factors. Best homage and bang on the bucks GBP340
http://www.timefactors.com/speedbird.htm


MODEL SPEEDBIRD III - PRS-22
BASE
Material 316L stainless steel, brushed finish
Diameter 39mm, 42.6mm including crown
Lug to lug height 46mm
Thickness 11.9mm
Anti-magnetic 80000 A/m with anti-magnetic movement cover and movement retaining ring
Water resistance 100 metres, also negative pressure tested to 0.4 ATM
Weight 165 grammes including steel bracelet
Features Screw back, crown tube screwed into case (not pressed), unique serial number
DIAL
Colour Semi-matte black soft iron anti-magnetic
Luminous Hour markers, triangle at 12 Super Luminova C3
Day/Date Date at 6 o'clock
HANDS
Style Frosted silver , luminous filled
Luminous Super Luminova C3
CRYSTAL Domed sapphire with anti-reflective on underside
MOVEMENT ETA2824-2 25 jewel automatic standard version
STRAP Stainless steel bracelet with custom fitted solid end links and centre clasp;screwed links for adjustment.


This post has been edited by ck77: May 10 2010, 09:33 PM

russian 3133 chrono for some reason can be pretty pricey. iirc many cost over US$500, if its from Poljot it would cost more, since they are russian 1st watch factory.

Speedbird is a nice homage, will add that on the 1st page. standard grade movement, hope they do regulate it and not just drop in.

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Added on May 11, 2010, 8:09 amgreat look but price pt is higher at EUR$630 (VAT), to bad in Malaysia need to pay the VAT.

I like the Antea 365 on Soprod A10. EUR$620 (VAT inclusive), b4 VAT EUR$521. should take adv since I am in States

I like the Marine Original too, its base on Durowe 7440, german made based on Unitas 6498-1, but its super expensive!
http://www.durowe.com/index.php?b=4&m=n



This post has been edited by patryn33: May 11 2010, 08:13 AM

Tissot t-touch. how much nw?

Pammy like lock..
JP Edmond present the LOCK-ED collection
- all using ETA 2824
- price starts from US$1675

http://www.edmond-watches.com/Lock-ED-en.html

i want this


and this

may i know.. how expensive is it? i mean the stowa marine original, it looks FABULOUS to me

is it available in msia?

all stowa watches are only avail online thru Stowa.com
the price on it is EUR$1290 or RM$5260++
http://www.basel2010.com/en/stowa-marine-original-7440.php

Bro, can any1 recommend me a watch tat between 3k-4k? prefer automatic. now this is 1 of my option, mido wit titanium. any other option? currently wearing tissot prs516 automatic.

http://www.bodying.my/mido-watches-m8340-8...1/watches/23033

what kinda watch are you looking for? oris diver retails at rm4.2k i think before discount. usually 20-25% discount

the Mido Ti is by no means a diver watch.
Its a nice COSC certified watch. although it use ETA 2836 is it COSC grade.
are U looking for such grade? with AR and water resistance of at least 100m?
did U try looking on the 1st page?

patryn33, have you introduced CW ?

I gave a review of mine here
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/873745/+2260

hi all, I've been wanted to get myself a dream watch for a long time
but my budget will be around 500-600++ only, and I'm a thin tall guy, need some suggestion from you guys since I doesn't really know about watches. i prefer to be a leather watch and found some watch that i likes but too bad the price is killing me.. hope you guys can suggest me some watch similar to below, and some retailer in KL that I'm able to get it. thanks

Baume & Mercier Men's 8731 Classima Automatic Strap Watch
Baume & Mercier Men's 8612 Classima Chronograph Swiss Watch
NEW ZENITH CLASS ELITE AUTOMATIC MENS WATCH 03.0520.679/02.C492

these watches U like are like 10-20x your budget.

for the best deal shop online.

anyway, try orient, Jap made part of seiko group. else here are always Seiko5 watches
http://www.orient-watch.com/products/categ...?category_id=23
http://www.longislandwatch.com/Orient/Orient_Watches-2.htm
seiko5
http://www.pmwf.com/Watches/WATCHSALES/Sei...eSalesTable.htm

U maybe able to get citizen for that budget, but they are non hacking movement. unlike those models u saw, when U pull out the crown the second hand stops, citizen movement (with exception of 9015) will continue to move,

like I suggested to alfredfx, try Christopher ward nearly new can get for around rm$600 for a swiss made auto. stocks run out pretty quick, u need to check in freq to get a bargain. unfortunately C3 Malvern Chronograph is a swiss quartz and price is at rm$500. the auto C5 (white dial I think U like white dial) still in stock and is going for 635.
nice thing about it is 60.60 return and warranty policy.
http://www.christopherward.co.uk/nearly-ne...en/nnc5swt.html
http://www.christopherward.co.uk/nearly-ne...en/nnc3swt.html

don't china stuff look at seagull. they are priced btw 400 to 960.
http://www.usseagull.com/categories.asp?cid=5

This post has been edited by patryn33: May 16 2010, 11:46 PM

patryn , too bad CW C5 is 38mm not 40-42mm ...

i was quiet new at watches, can u juz recommend me any brand? longines, oris?

Anyway, i was looking some eye charming and long lasting design watch, found my tissot prs516 quiet old and it is the time to change...

This post has been edited by ~Guyver~: May 17 2010, 12:11 AM

WOW, the Christopher Ward u suggest i really like, nearly new mean it was used b4? if there is scratches and seem like it has been worn is it able to claim warranty?
and I worry bout the length is too large for my wrist...need ur suggestion since I've no experience about it

This post has been edited by Leon||: May 17 2010, 01:43 AM

This is a nice BIG diving watch with day/date: Orient CEM75001B

http://www.orient-watch.com/products/categ...?category_id=38

Entire story here


Pic: The 75001B's little brother, just to get an idea.

Good thing is you can get it serviced/repaired at your nearest Orient dealer. It shouldn't cost an arm and leg too.

YOUTUBE VIDEO

44mm is huge. Should be just right!

This post has been edited by BikerVoodoo: May 17 2010, 06:15 AM

nearly new are items bought and customer returned them within 60 days. I got mine nearly new and didn't find any scratches, it looked brand new to me.
if U don't like U, U can return it to get an exchange within 60 days. they have 60 days return policy and 60 mths warranty.
U getting a leather band, don't have to worry its too long. or are U thinking of steel?

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Added on May 17, 2010, 7:21 amU need to provide more info on what kinda of what u seek?
whats eye charming? any functions U seek?
long lasting design? U mean timeless? for rm$4K U can get Longines, Louis Erard, Sinn etc.
irrc your choice is this Mido on ETA 2836 (most likely top grade)
http://www.righttime.com/rt/mido/m83408d811.htm

diver try longines conquest with ceramic dial. L633 movement (mod ETA 2824-2) after discount close to 4K I think.
http://www.authenticwatches.com/longines-c...-l36574566.html


retro look but discountinued iirc,
http://www.authenticwatches.com/longines-s...-l27004536.html


entry level LONGINES HYDROCONQUEST Chrono ~rm3.6K after discount maybe their cheapest chrono watch.


Guinand G-2401 is at ~rm$2k the G-330M is rated at 330m with helium escape valve also at same price. both on ETA 2824-2


their series 20 chrono is at ~rm$3.2K see link below.
40 series reviewed here and they cost ~rm$4.1k. a little history on this brand, they used to make watches for Sinn, maybe Bell and Ross. movement are nicely decorated, U not going to find much work done on Oris and Longines. at 4k U not going to get a chrono on these brands too.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.ph...ghlight=guinand
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=158528

http://guinand-watch.com/index.php?option=...d=63&Itemid=181


looking for a diver with GMT (world time)
try Louis Erard La Sportive GMT, on ETA 2893 (supposedly better than ETA 2824)


don't mind shop grey market, this is a dress watch Baume & Mercier capeland auto (discontinued collection). on a mod ETA 2892 supposedly better than ETA 2824). now at rm$3.8k
http://www.thewatchery.com/Baume_&_Mercier/Watch/MOA08385

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Added on May 17, 2010, 8:15 amits midsize watch. get the C600 i got and its a nice 43mm
or the C8 at 44mm or C40 at 42mm, hard to find ETA 7750 under $2K. an ETA 7750 movement already cost around rm$1.2k.

try archimede they cost ~$1.5K and are at 42mm
http://www.archimede-uhren.de/EN/Arcadia.htm


a 39.5mm Tissot Classic Le Locle leather may cost around rm$1K or less.
btw not shop at below b4.
http://www.classybrand.com/watches/watch_f...41.1.423.33.asp

or Aristo. 44mm manual not auto, russian movement german made. not sapphire crystal, just mineral so can scratch
http://www.gnomonwatches.com/AristoHP7.html



This post has been edited by patryn33: May 17 2010, 09:47 AM

Bro, quiet like this 3 design. anyway, may i know wat is the different between eta 2836 and eta 2824? can u know how much for the mido? if the price of mido and longines is not far away, i think i will go 4 longines.

1.irrc your choice is this Mido on ETA 2836 (most likely top grade)
http://www.righttime.com/rt/mido/m83408d811.htm
2.diver try longines conquest with ceramic dial. L633 movement (mod ETA 2824-2) after discount close to 4K I think.
http://www.authenticwatches.com/longines-c...-l36574566.html
3.entry level LONGINES HYDROCONQUEST Chrono ~rm3.6K after discount maybe their cheapest chrono watch.

add in 1 more
http://www.bodying.my/mido-watches-m8340-3...9/watches/23026

This post has been edited by ~Guyver~: May 17 2010, 10:49 AM

now really interested to buy it but need wait end of this month salary and have a real consider first
and normally no ppl will at home, so it that possible to collect it by myself, worry later send to my home and no ppl pick it up..

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Added on May 17, 2010, 6:40 pmsuddenly out of stock....

This post has been edited by Leon||: May 17 2010, 06:40 PM

Aristo , Tissot Le XX and Archimede look nice.

But compare with CW, which one do you prefer ? (ignore the price)

stock come and go, U have to check in daily and get it the soonest U see it.
I am not at home when the deliver too, its put in my mail box.

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Added on May 18, 2010, 8:14 amthe difference is just the date wheel. U may wanna read the below
http://www.watchtime.at/archive/wt_2002_06...profile_eta.pdf
http://www.watchtime.at/archive/wt_2002_06...est_eta2892.pdf
http://www.watchtime.at/archive/wt_2008_06...2008_06_148.pdf
http://www.watchtime.at/archive/wt_2007_05...2007_05_066.pdf

the price, should be close to whats listed. iirc Mido use top grade ETA movements.
http://www.bodying.my/mido-watches-m8340-8...1/watches/23033

just found this longines site with their official list price.
http://shop.us.longines.com/longines-colle.../l36444566.html

I like to look at the movement, with most divers watches the back are covered. depends what U looking for, with this budget 3-4K want brand and value for money Longines is a safe bet. Mido if U want COSC movements. Want more watch and value for $$, can go with brands like mkiiwatches.com or Guinand.

This Frederique Constant Highlife Calendar Moon auto also good buy
http://www.collectorstime.com/new-watches.php

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Added on May 18, 2010, 8:16 amignore the price. I will go for stowa! movement is decorated with blue screws. issue its there is a long wait to get the watch
http://www.german-watches.com/cgi-bin/lsho...Tshowrub--antea



This post has been edited by patryn33: May 19 2010, 11:50 AM

damm, cant make decision between this two watches, thinking to take NNC5SST because of sharpness, and NNC5SWT because of the beige colour looks good too. maybe depend on which watch will have stock then i just grab it. is they keep having stock? because worry need to wait for a long time for the watch. if need to wait for a long time might consider the new watch with adding roughly RM200.

NNC5SST
NNC5SWT

This post has been edited by Leon||: May 18 2010, 06:09 PM

can't predict these nearly new item. stock come when customer return. No one return no stock.
u can set date, maybe by this week nothing show up just get the new item
I like the cream dial, gives a vintage age look.

This post has been edited by patryn33: May 19 2010, 10:19 AM

Wow, really love the C5 Malvern Aviator auto and the C3 Malvern Chronograph quartz! 38mm, perfect for me!




This post has been edited by Dannyl: May 19 2010, 09:37 AM

I remember U, U love 38mm watches.
C3 Malvern Chronograph is at 40mm not too big.
too bad these the nearly new items are out of stock.

C5 - GBP$134.47 / rm$640 (nearly new) or GBP$194.49 / rm$930 (new)
C3 - GBP$104.68 / rm$500 (nearly new) or GBP$148.94 / rm$710 (new)

I like the display back showing the ETA 2724 or SW200



This post has been edited by patryn33: May 19 2010, 10:21 AM

is the Christopher Ward use DHL courier service? and possible courier to msia DHL branch so i could get from them or set a time to reach my house instead of courier to my house while no ppl in my house, and worry item might get steal by ppl as my house area is quite dangerous.

try to hunt for 2weeks if no stock may decide to get new watch

This post has been edited by Leon||: May 19 2010, 11:42 AM

iirc they don't do DHL, just regular post u can get them sent to your office!
U may wanna email them if they do courier via DHL.

anyway there is a curretnt promo on all new sport watches.. 20% off. promo code Sport20

This post has been edited by patryn33: May 19 2010, 11:56 AM

Hey Patrn33! How are you long time no see! Was wondering if I would to buy a watch from overseas, I will not get tax by customs, or would I? Hahahha Since i heard Watches in Malaysia is Tax free.

Heres a cool watch i bumped in to today, for those iron man fans have look in here =D

http://ablogtoread.com/jaeger-lecoultre/ja...on-man-2-movie/

that iron man post is old, its already posted on the prev thread.

iirc, ck77 alrdy clarify here on page 2. no tax!

Yeah, tax free! So get more before government think otherwise

bro, can recommend 4 me where can i buy longines and get the best discount? hopefully can get 25% or above...

Try City Time Pertama Complex. Last time I asked they can give 30%

Thanks, bro, will go n check and this weekend...

What do you guys think of Bell&Ross BR03 Type Aviation ?
Where can I buy Bell&Ross with best discount ?

Just found this thread. Glad to see watch enthusiasts here. Any Seiko collectors here?

Anyone here know where to get Zulu / Nato straps in KL/PJ?

this B&R? on ETA 988.333 i think after reading around , if so u can find a tissot fitted with the same movement for under us$500.
this retails ~us$4000, discount controlled ~25%..

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Added on May 21, 2010, 10:29 amthe cream in Alligator is in stock, the black in calf leather also in stock.
Alligator is more expensive leather.. kinda cost more ~rm$990
http://www.christopherward.co.uk/nearly-ne...en/nnc5skk.html

This post has been edited by patryn33: May 21 2010, 10:29 AM

which Longines you're interested in bro?


This post has been edited by nando: May 21 2010, 11:21 AM

@miaopurr

the prices on the new Benarus watch are out.. its US$450 or US$500 (PVD) on special offer from May 21 - June 4, 2010. regular price is US$100 more.
pretty good price for a new miyota 9015 (1st miyota that is hacking)
http://www.benaruswatches.com/remora/

pic of the movement
http://forums2.watchuseek.com/showthread.p...=2035465&page=2

[quote=patryn33,May 21 2010, 08:11 AM]
this B&R? on ETA 988.333 i think after reading around , if so u can find a tissot fitted with the same movement for under us$500.
this retails ~us$4000, discount controlled ~25%..


Yeah , this watch . Where can I get it in KL ?
What do u guys think of it ?

no my kinda brand... spend ~rm$9k for a quartz! B&R is a very good case manufacturer.
might as well go for a Breitling.

Collected my vintage Oris recently...

the harvest must have been good recently

does anyone know any shops selling patek philippe other than the hour glass in KL?

sincere watches also sell patek philippe

they are based in klcc or pavilion....

where can i find 24 hour watches? where the hour hand only spins 1 round a day and not 2 as normal dials

http://www.24hourwatch.info/

I think you found 1 already. The AD, hour glass in this case should have that.
is that not the right watch? or its not in your working budget?

i want to find it in msia, whr i can directly see and hold the real thing myself. i dont wanna buy online coz many are fakes..

online many fakes?
there are many real too, depends where U get it. i got alot of my watches online. In fact some online store today don't even send U the goods, no need to fake anything in the 1st place.

some brands only can get thru online and no fake there. eg AirNautic watch company ( http://www.airnauticwatchco.com/) , Guinand, http://www.ocean7watchco.com/

other brands such as Alpha, trias no worries.. no one wanna fake them.. they are made in china already.
russian watches, Poljot, Buran also no fakes.. no demand out there, not worth faking them.

btw I did mention a non online retailer- The Hour Glass, fyi Glycine is Hour Glass house brand, and they carry Breitling too
http://www.glycine-watch.ch/e/distribution..._Country=10001B
This post has been edited by patryn33: May 22 2010, 07:28 AM

i want a 24hour watch budget ~ not more than 200usd, unless its really worth it, will go double. coz from what i see, normally it wont cost more than that unless really good brands

swiss made auto.. < 200 usd not possible.
german made with swiss heart < 200 usd also not possible even its online brand.

< 400 usd not sure if U can find a swiss mechanical.. quartz maybe
Jap or Chinese more likely

at prices under 400usd which brands did U find fake?

russian.. hmm redarmy do have a branch in KL but prices are high
http://www.redarmywatches.com/collection_b...3&cat=3&brand=4
http://www.russia2all.com/aviator-poljot-v..._1375636-m.html

so which are the brands U know of thats under 200 usd?

This post has been edited by patryn33: May 22 2010, 08:18 AM