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post May 7 2010, 08:46 PM

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Good one patryn thumbup.gif
Please update the following pammy homage in 1st post.
Getat http://www.siswatch727.com/index.do
Jackson Tse http://www.jacksontse.com/

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QUOTE(nando @ May 7 2010, 11:35 PM)
we want to see you NEW LACO la.... tongue.gif
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You ask for it. First review in thread 2 tongue.gif

Been lurking for b-uhr (pilot watch) for few months now. Some history of the original WWII pilot watch can be found here, http://www.calibremagazine.com/node/305

Finally decided on Laco due to its price and originality of the b-uhr. Chose B dial coz I find A dial is too common and plain for my liking.
This is the original spec for B dial b-uhr. 55mm in size! Easily readable and wear outside the flight suit.
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Shipping was fast, 3 days from Germany to KL with FedEx.

Special request for no logo dial to reflect the original spirit of b-uhr. 42mm in brushed steel, mineral cystal glass, inner hour markers with outter minute markers. Still getting used to the short hour hand.
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Non screw-in onion crown, would not put a mark on the back of your hand like diamond crown.
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Polished steel clear case back with mineral cystal. Mitoya 8215 workhorse. Second hand running smoothly, no stutter issue so far (touch wood sweat.gif )
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Original pilot strap with rivets. Strap alone costing EUR49.00
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Need some times to figure how to wear the strap sweat.gif Strap sitting nicely on my wrist in last hole. People with small wrist might need to request for shorter strap or punch additional holes.
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Lume nicely with superluminova.
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And lastly, compulsory wrist shot. rclxms.gif
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Very limited production due to parts availability (or financial difficulty), stocks usually sold off within days.
Laco, one of the 5 original makers of b-uhr, Make in Germany, albeit Japanese movement, EUR166.39 ~RM730 with free FedEx shipping.
Though not as historically correct spec as WUS LE, but I still think that this baby is a steal rclxm9.gif

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post May 8 2010, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(-_- @ May 8 2010, 04:10 AM)
wah i love the lume second effectt omg what kind of poison is this zzzzz

166 euro is not that bad >.>
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QUOTE(patryn33 @ May 8 2010, 08:23 AM)
great reviews!
do share your experience with online shopping, ppl are worried with taxes etc.
care to elaborate more on that? didn't get stuck in customs?
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QUOTE(terencetoo @ May 8 2010, 09:46 AM)
Btw ck77, u can also emphasizes on the warranty issue ...where to claim where to get it service...and how much would it cost when dealing with Online purchases..

im still hunting for another watch most prob...Oris, Ball or Tag average model smile.gif
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patryn, as fas as watches are concern, that's tax free in Malaysia. Item reached Sepang at the morning, cleared by custom by noon, reached me at 4.30pm on the same day! thumbup.gif

terence, too bad any warranty claim need to send back to Germany. But good news is, Miyota is not a complicated movement and could be serice locally here. If worse come to worse, is not that expensive to change the entire movement! tongue.gif

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post May 8 2010, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ May 8 2010, 03:10 PM)
haha change the entire movement = get a brand new watch is that so. smile.gif
Tried on Orics BC4.....and is sooo freaking big and heavy...
Now i started to like watches with superluminova biggrin.gif
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Almost all of the modern watches are lume by superluminova, expect some brands like Ball, Luminox, Lum-Tec etc.
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post May 8 2010, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(nando @ May 8 2010, 06:03 PM)
notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

this is euro 199 - Vat = euro 166.39?
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QUOTE(Chinoz @ May 8 2010, 06:39 PM)
The lume is a beau man, grats biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(kelvinftg @ May 8 2010, 06:39 PM)
Awesome shots of your B-uhr watch ck77. There was actually someone in Lowyat.net who was selling the exact same watch, I was very interested but was kinda annoyed at the seller's comments when I asked him if he had the 2824-2 version instead of the Miyota. Ended up not buying it and got myself a Glycine Combat instead.

Anyways, I am very close to ordering a Stowa B-Uhr. For those who have yet to see it, here's the link Stowa Flieger Baumuster B Dial

Stowa has been making A dial Fliegers all this while but their new range will include a B dial! Its size is 40mm, so it's smaller than your Laco. Price wise, it's also a lot higher compared to a Miyota Laco at 630 Euros.
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Thanks guys notworthy.gif
nando, yes the price is after VAT cool2.gif
kelvinftg, yea the Stowa is a real beauty. Things that put me off are their unwillingness of VAT waiver and waiting times.
'-_- as mentioned earlier, watches are duty free here.

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post May 10 2010, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ May 10 2010, 01:18 AM)
this is featured in IW magazine
Aviator MiG 29 Axiom Chronograph US$1275
Poljot 3133
http://www.vostok-watches.com/movements-russian-watches.html
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Graham look alike and quite pricey for a Russian movement cool2.gif


Added on May 10, 2010, 9:33 pmEver wanted to get an IWC Mark XV or XVI but couldn't afford it?
Here it is, Speedbird III from Time Factors. Best homage and bang on the bucks thumbup.gif GBP340
http://www.timefactors.com/speedbird.htm
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MODEL SPEEDBIRD III - PRS-22
BASE
Material 316L stainless steel, brushed finish
Diameter 39mm, 42.6mm including crown
Lug to lug height 46mm
Thickness 11.9mm
Anti-magnetic 80000 A/m with anti-magnetic movement cover and movement retaining ring
Water resistance 100 metres, also negative pressure tested to 0.4 ATM
Weight 165 grammes including steel bracelet
Features Screw back, crown tube screwed into case (not pressed), unique serial number
DIAL
Colour Semi-matte black soft iron anti-magnetic
Luminous Hour markers, triangle at 12 Super Luminova C3
Day/Date Date at 6 o'clock
HANDS
Style Frosted silver , luminous filled
Luminous Super Luminova C3
CRYSTAL Domed sapphire with anti-reflective on underside
MOVEMENT ETA2824-2 25 jewel automatic standard version
STRAP Stainless steel bracelet with custom fitted solid end links and centre clasp;screwed links for adjustment.


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post May 19 2010, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ May 19 2010, 06:19 PM)
iirc, ck77 alrdy clarify here on page 2. no tax!
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Yeah, tax free! So get more before government think otherwise rclxms.gif
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post May 20 2010, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(~Guyver~ @ May 20 2010, 09:45 AM)
bro, can recommend 4 me where can i buy longines and get the best discount? hopefully can get 25% or above...
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Try City Time Pertama Complex. Last time I asked they can give 30%
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post May 23 2010, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(alfredfx @ May 23 2010, 10:44 PM)
what actually is ETA ? something like OEM thingy ?

sorry about the stupid question smile.gif
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Watch movement, owned by Swatch Group.
http://www.eta.ch/
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post May 25 2010, 06:40 PM

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Congrats and good to ride on the low EUR and GBP now.
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ May 26 2010, 01:40 PM)
The thread title is misleading. Why cant just change to Watches Thread.. 10k watch is very affordable.
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10k is affortable to you and might not be the case for others tongue.gif
ANyway, we discuss all type of watches here regardless of value rclxms.gif
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post May 26 2010, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(-_- @ May 26 2010, 04:35 PM)
i think first we must ask patryn to post all his collection and then we shall chip in too ;D
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He did in the first thread biggrin.gif
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post May 31 2010, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ May 31 2010, 08:37 PM)
anyone know when Stowa will start selling those new models? shown in Basel 2010
http://www.basel2010.com/en/stowa-flieger-baumuster-b.php
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QUOTE(alfredfx @ May 31 2010, 08:58 PM)
Flieger with B dial ? nice. i wanna get one.
630 euro
where to buy ?
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That's what Jorg Schauer from Stowa replied me on 30 March, 2010.

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Hello,
the watch will be available from middle to end of may.

best regards
jörg schauer

Netprice Euro 545.- with leatherstrap
alfredfx, we can buy the watch from Stowa onlineshop.
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patryn, for me, original flieger should remain date-less. Just me smile.gif
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QUOTE(Cheenoo @ May 31 2010, 10:13 PM)
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Can this watch be considered a classic?
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Not sure about this model, but seems people is more keen on DW-5600C
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post Jun 1 2010, 12:04 AM

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so patryn, which one is your pick?
I'll go for the second one, a modified 6497 huh?

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ETA 2824 with date, with soft iron core. Speedbird III, all met your criteria. tongue.gif
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But then again, I'll go for DUROWE if got one biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jun 1 2010, 12:38 AM)
true, but the dial is ugly.. and on top of that its a ETA 2824 standard version at GBP 340. will update the 1st post on value homage with iron core.
Stowa is a higher grade since they all come with blue screws. on top of that Stowa do make the effort to inspect the movement received from ETA and regulate to Stowa specs.
Speedbird , no real histroy. brand is called Speedbird? certainly its cheap. is that swiss movement UK made? seem like Timefactors are the ones making it. seem like a mix bag, the 1st version is swiss, then its german by Ickler then now on the dial is Britain.

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Ya not so much history of Speedbird and TimeFactor, but they do have some favourable reviews on WUS.
http://forums2.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=345409
http://forums2.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=383762

How about Steinhart 44mm? Was contemplating before I decided to pull the trigger for Laco.
http://www.steinhartwatches.de/index.php?i...0&Sel_ID=18#120


Added on June 1, 2010, 4:13 pm
QUOTE(Leon|| @ Jun 1 2010, 01:55 PM)
just found out got stock this morning, but can't place order.
then place order when lunch then it become no stock....  mad.gif  sad.gif
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Be patient bro smile.gif CW?

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jun 1 2010, 06:53 PM)
speedbird is value for $$.
Steinhart  offer a great looking homage.
i rather give up the soft iron core for a display back.
So how is the Laco performing?
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My Laco is keeping good time, but the rotor a bit noisy when swing. Apparently that's normal for Miyota as it's only swing in one direction, no help for display back too. Surprisingly, it attract more attention by people more than my Speedy. biggrin.gif

You know what patryn, I got a wild dream to change the Miyota to ETA if can find a reliable and trustworthy watchmaker here. nod.gif

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jun 2 2010, 09:42 AM)
if u do change it to ETA 2824, I guess u not getting a stowa then.
u plan to buy the movement yourself and get watchmaker to regulate and install it? or have the watchmaker do everything?
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Just thinking getting the movement from offei and ask the watchmaker to install it. Well, not in hurry though.

QUOTE(lanatir @ Jun 2 2010, 10:21 AM)
i basically sold the 013 at no loss. after using it for about a year (got it when it was first launched), the watch was still pristine. i don't baby my watches but i am also mindful of how my watches are treated when i use them (even with my swiss watches). finishing on the 6R15 movt is of course a bit lacking and much better on the 6R20 (i also had a seiko premier auto and sold it off). i've showed the premier to some swiss watchmakers before and they were very impressed with the quality of the USD500+ watch.
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Very nice Seiko. My target is SCVS003 smile.gif
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=43166


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