Time for a new thread.
what i learnt from the original thread.

Those new at watches do read this 1st
http://www.watcharama.com/glossary.htm

Chronograph and affordable homages (Sub, Pammy, B&R) are big. try to name a few brands, will try my best to update this list

where to find those affordable homages
Sub Homage
- www.mkiiwatches.com
- www.orangewatchcompany.com
- www.steinhartwatches.de
- www.robert-uhren.de
- www.debaufre.com
- www.marcelloc-watches.com
- www.rxw.jp
- www.davosawatches.com

Sub homage similar to the original James Bond watch
- STEINHART "OCEAN 1 VINTAGE"
http://www.steinhartwatches.de/index.php?i...92&Sel_ID=9#192
- http://www.orangewatchcompany.com/milsub/index.php
- MK II Kingston

Pammy Homage
- Vollmer watch
- Aristo
- Dievas watch ( http://gnomonwatches.com/Dievas.html)
- www.rxw.jp
(Asian parts)
- Getat http://www.siswatch727.com/index.do
- Jackson Tse http://www.jacksontse.com/


Bell and Ross Homage
- Junkers
- www.steinhartwatches.de
- www.debaufre.com
- http://www.revue-thommen.ch/instrument.htm

many pilot fans here too
- www.stowa.com
- http://www.lacher-shop.de/e_shop/index.php
- www.archimede-uhren.de
- www.christopherward.co.uk
- Aristo
- http://prometheuswatch.com/

IWC pilot homage
- Speedbird with soft iron core http://www.timefactors.com/speedbird.htm

diver watches
(online only)
- www.christopherward.co.uk
- guinand-watch.com
- http://www.ocean7watchco.com/
- Doxa
- www.mkiiwatches.com
- www.orangewatchcompany.com
- www.steinhartwatches.de
- www.robert-uhren.de
- www.debaufre.com
- www.uhr.info (~rm1k)
- Marathon http://www.broadarrow.net/GSAR.htm
- Bernhardt http://www.bernhardtwatch.com/
- www.boschett-timepieces.com
- www.utswatches.com
- http://www.benaruswatches.com/
- http://prometheuswatch.com/
(in stores)
- Fortis
- Hamilton
- Oris
- Sinn
- Tag Heuer
- Longines
- etc

German watches that invested alot in case and movement tech
- Sinn
- http://www.damasko.de/eng/index.html

small size watches (case 33-38mm size)
- www.christopherward.co.uk (price starts at RM600)
- http://junior.frederique-constant.com/ (prices start at RM2.6K)
- http://www.dfreemontwatches.com/new_yorker.htm
- hamilton watch (Field mechanical size at 33mm) retail price ~rm1.1K
- Seiko Spirit Automatic (size 37mm)
- Titoni (many model range btw 33mm to 38mm) http://www.pmwf.com/Watches/WATCHSALES/TitoniSalesTable.htm
- Stowa Antea Kleine Sekunde (35.5mm) or Stowa Antea 365 (36.5mm)
- nomos club (36mm) retails ~rm4.5K to 5K or Nomos Ludwig (33mm) retails rm$5K and up
- http://www.jswatch.com/enska/urin.html
- http://www.rgmwatches.com/110As.html
- Maurice Lacroix http://www.mauricelacroix.com/#OUR%20CLASSICS
- http://www.archimede-uhren.de/EN/Pilot-S.htm (prices start at ~rm1.5k)
- http://www.autran-viala.de (prices start at ~rm1.4k)

great value Chrono watches
- www.uhr.info (rm$1.6k)
- http://www.genius1953.de/
- Guinand watch

Skeleton watches on swiss movement
- SWATCH under US$180
- http://www.steinhartwatches.de/ (limited edition)
- Oris Artelier Skeleton also US$1.5k an up
- Louis Erard 1931 collection usually usd$1.5K an up
- http://www.tourbywatches.com/ usually EUR$1.1K an up
- Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Skeleton (retailing US$5K an up)

Skeleton or open dial on Jap movement
- Orient watch ~US$350 (not really skeleton, just open dial)
- BULOVA ~US$250 and up (open dial)
- Invicta (some are using Chinese movement)

Skeleton or open dial on Chinese movement
- Invicta
- Armitron
- Kenneth Cole (mostly fashion brands)
- Seagull
- Alpha watch usually under US$100
- Theorema watch usually ~US$200
- TRIAS watch (some swiss movement model cost more, mostly Chinese)

Looking for Japanese Mechanical
- www.seiyajapan.com
- http://www.higuchi-inc.com/
- www.orientwatchusa.com

grey market (online)
- thewatchery.com ( I dealt with them b4)
- ashford.com ( I dealt with them b4)
- collectorstime.com
some others review these shops
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.ph...pic,1383.0.html

http://www.europastar.com/europastar/magaz...t_id=1003545084



a nice chart I find useful


This post has been edited by patryn33: Dec 9 2010, 12:26 PM

I just felt 99% of the time ppl here is asking for the affordable stuff.. feel free to post on IWC, PP etc, doubt mod is going to remove it.
well affordable varies from ppl to ppl too.. some its 1k other 10k or more..
there is also a thread in hobbies where ppl ask about Subs, AP etc.. nothing cheap like Citizen, Tissot. the activity there is slow so I kinda play with the name abit to catch attention.

I did also insinuate in quotes... unless thats not understandable by ppl here. mislead too many ppl?

This post has been edited by patryn33: May 8 2010, 08:17 AM

whats the problem here dude .my England is not there. don't really understand the sentence in bold, felt like its missing a 2nd part..

anyway I just quote an example.. RM$10 U happy? seem like there are lots of bones in a egg U are finding.
since MOD and even yourself have problem with the title.. do feel free to make the appropriate suggestion to get it right.

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Added on May 8, 2010, 8:55 amgreat reviews!
do share your experience with online shopping, ppl are worried with taxes etc.
care to elaborate more on that? didn't get stuck in customs?

This post has been edited by patryn33: May 8 2010, 08:56 AM

thats not really true. I used to believe that changing a movement = getting a new watch.
today a ETA 2824 (top grade) is at US$118
a miyota 8215 is just US$37. considering the watch cost US$211, U wouldn't wanna throw it out.
http://www.esslinger.com/miyotacitizenquar...vement8215.aspx
http://www.ofrei.com/page_183.html

Superluminova glows brightly when its charges, but it get dimmer with time.
I don't look at my time immed when I go from daylight to total darkness, usually its after sometime. hard to see anytime by that time.
try that in a theater after 1hr into the show/movie.
With age, the glow just isn't there. its also hard to find qualified ppl to do a good relume job.

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Added on May 9, 2010, 9:50 amcertainly! prices vary alot.. depends on what watch u looking at

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Added on May 9, 2010, 9:56 amit would be easier if U post links to those watches.
I tried to google but they are not showing up. only found the casio watch, the casio the dial look messy to me. Seiko and Casio don't have to worry about reliability. quartz watch like these feel like wearing a mini PC. maybe u can give us a break down of the full functions and the cost.
http://www.nzwatches.com/casio-edifice-men-efe-500d-1av
- world time
- alarm
- chronograph
- auto-calendar (to year 2099)


This post has been edited by patryn33: May 9 2010, 10:31 AM

very rare

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Added on May 9, 2010, 7:23 pmfeature wise casio offer an additional gmt and auto calendar. id price the same, casio better deal in terms of feature.

This post has been edited by patryn33: May 9 2010, 07:23 PM

this is featured in IW magazine
Aviator MiG 29 Axiom Chronograph US$1275
http://www.russia2all.com/aviator-poljot-v..._1375636-m.html



Poljot 3133
http://www.vostok-watches.com/movements-russian-watches.html


This post has been edited by patryn33: May 10 2010, 01:21 AM

russian 3133 chrono for some reason can be pretty pricey. iirc many cost over US$500, if its from Poljot it would cost more, since they are russian 1st watch factory.

Speedbird is a nice homage, will add that on the 1st page. standard grade movement, hope they do regulate it and not just drop in.

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Added on May 11, 2010, 8:09 amgreat look but price pt is higher at EUR$630 (VAT), to bad in Malaysia need to pay the VAT.

I like the Antea 365 on Soprod A10. EUR$620 (VAT inclusive), b4 VAT EUR$521. should take adv since I am in States

I like the Marine Original too, its base on Durowe 7440, german made based on Unitas 6498-1, but its super expensive!
http://www.durowe.com/index.php?b=4&m=n



This post has been edited by patryn33: May 11 2010, 08:13 AM

Pammy like lock..
JP Edmond present the LOCK-ED collection
- all using ETA 2824
- price starts from US$1675

http://www.edmond-watches.com/Lock-ED-en.html

all stowa watches are only avail online thru Stowa.com
the price on it is EUR$1290 or RM$5260++
http://www.basel2010.com/en/stowa-marine-original-7440.php

the Mido Ti is by no means a diver watch.
Its a nice COSC certified watch. although it use ETA 2836 is it COSC grade.
are U looking for such grade? with AR and water resistance of at least 100m?
did U try looking on the 1st page?

I gave a review of mine here
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/873745/+2260

these watches U like are like 10-20x your budget.

for the best deal shop online.

anyway, try orient, Jap made part of seiko group. else here are always Seiko5 watches
http://www.orient-watch.com/products/categ...?category_id=23
http://www.longislandwatch.com/Orient/Orient_Watches-2.htm
seiko5
http://www.pmwf.com/Watches/WATCHSALES/Sei...eSalesTable.htm

U maybe able to get citizen for that budget, but they are non hacking movement. unlike those models u saw, when U pull out the crown the second hand stops, citizen movement (with exception of 9015) will continue to move,

like I suggested to alfredfx, try Christopher ward nearly new can get for around rm$600 for a swiss made auto. stocks run out pretty quick, u need to check in freq to get a bargain. unfortunately C3 Malvern Chronograph is a swiss quartz and price is at rm$500. the auto C5 (white dial I think U like white dial) still in stock and is going for 635.
nice thing about it is 60.60 return and warranty policy.
http://www.christopherward.co.uk/nearly-ne...en/nnc5swt.html
http://www.christopherward.co.uk/nearly-ne...en/nnc3swt.html

don't china stuff look at seagull. they are priced btw 400 to 960.
http://www.usseagull.com/categories.asp?cid=5

This post has been edited by patryn33: May 16 2010, 11:46 PM

nearly new are items bought and customer returned them within 60 days. I got mine nearly new and didn't find any scratches, it looked brand new to me.
if U don't like U, U can return it to get an exchange within 60 days. they have 60 days return policy and 60 mths warranty.
U getting a leather band, don't have to worry its too long. or are U thinking of steel?

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Added on May 17, 2010, 7:21 amU need to provide more info on what kinda of what u seek?
whats eye charming? any functions U seek?
long lasting design? U mean timeless? for rm$4K U can get Longines, Louis Erard, Sinn etc.
irrc your choice is this Mido on ETA 2836 (most likely top grade)
http://www.righttime.com/rt/mido/m83408d811.htm

diver try longines conquest with ceramic dial. L633 movement (mod ETA 2824-2) after discount close to 4K I think.
http://www.authenticwatches.com/longines-c...-l36574566.html


retro look but discountinued iirc,
http://www.authenticwatches.com/longines-s...-l27004536.html


entry level LONGINES HYDROCONQUEST Chrono ~rm3.6K after discount maybe their cheapest chrono watch.


Guinand G-2401 is at ~rm$2k the G-330M is rated at 330m with helium escape valve also at same price. both on ETA 2824-2


their series 20 chrono is at ~rm$3.2K see link below.
40 series reviewed here and they cost ~rm$4.1k. a little history on this brand, they used to make watches for Sinn, maybe Bell and Ross. movement are nicely decorated, U not going to find much work done on Oris and Longines. at 4k U not going to get a chrono on these brands too.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.ph...ghlight=guinand
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=158528

http://guinand-watch.com/index.php?option=...d=63&Itemid=181


looking for a diver with GMT (world time)
try Louis Erard La Sportive GMT, on ETA 2893 (supposedly better than ETA 2824)


don't mind shop grey market, this is a dress watch Baume & Mercier capeland auto (discontinued collection). on a mod ETA 2892 supposedly better than ETA 2824). now at rm$3.8k
http://www.thewatchery.com/Baume_&_Mercier/Watch/MOA08385

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Added on May 17, 2010, 8:15 amits midsize watch. get the C600 i got and its a nice 43mm
or the C8 at 44mm or C40 at 42mm, hard to find ETA 7750 under $2K. an ETA 7750 movement already cost around rm$1.2k.

try archimede they cost ~$1.5K and are at 42mm
http://www.archimede-uhren.de/EN/Arcadia.htm


a 39.5mm Tissot Classic Le Locle leather may cost around rm$1K or less.
btw not shop at below b4.
http://www.classybrand.com/watches/watch_f...41.1.423.33.asp

or Aristo. 44mm manual not auto, russian movement german made. not sapphire crystal, just mineral so can scratch
http://www.gnomonwatches.com/AristoHP7.html



This post has been edited by patryn33: May 17 2010, 09:47 AM

stock come and go, U have to check in daily and get it the soonest U see it.
I am not at home when the deliver too, its put in my mail box.

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Added on May 18, 2010, 8:14 amthe difference is just the date wheel. U may wanna read the below
http://www.watchtime.at/archive/wt_2002_06...profile_eta.pdf
http://www.watchtime.at/archive/wt_2002_06...est_eta2892.pdf
http://www.watchtime.at/archive/wt_2008_06...2008_06_148.pdf
http://www.watchtime.at/archive/wt_2007_05...2007_05_066.pdf

the price, should be close to whats listed. iirc Mido use top grade ETA movements.
http://www.bodying.my/mido-watches-m8340-8...1/watches/23033

just found this longines site with their official list price.
http://shop.us.longines.com/longines-colle.../l36444566.html

I like to look at the movement, with most divers watches the back are covered. depends what U looking for, with this budget 3-4K want brand and value for money Longines is a safe bet. Mido if U want COSC movements. Want more watch and value for $$, can go with brands like mkiiwatches.com or Guinand.

This Frederique Constant Highlife Calendar Moon auto also good buy
http://www.collectorstime.com/new-watches.php

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Added on May 18, 2010, 8:16 amignore the price. I will go for stowa! movement is decorated with blue screws. issue its there is a long wait to get the watch
http://www.german-watches.com/cgi-bin/lsho...Tshowrub--antea



This post has been edited by patryn33: May 19 2010, 11:50 AM

can't predict these nearly new item. stock come when customer return. No one return no stock.
u can set date, maybe by this week nothing show up just get the new item
I like the cream dial, gives a vintage age look.

This post has been edited by patryn33: May 19 2010, 10:19 AM

I remember U, U love 38mm watches.
C3 Malvern Chronograph is at 40mm not too big.
too bad these the nearly new items are out of stock.

C5 - GBP$134.47 / rm$640 (nearly new) or GBP$194.49 / rm$930 (new)
C3 - GBP$104.68 / rm$500 (nearly new) or GBP$148.94 / rm$710 (new)

I like the display back showing the ETA 2724 or SW200



This post has been edited by patryn33: May 19 2010, 10:21 AM

iirc they don't do DHL, just regular post u can get them sent to your office!
U may wanna email them if they do courier via DHL.

anyway there is a curretnt promo on all new sport watches.. 20% off. promo code Sport20

This post has been edited by patryn33: May 19 2010, 11:56 AM

that iron man post is old, its already posted on the prev thread.

iirc, ck77 alrdy clarify here on page 2. no tax!

this B&R? on ETA 988.333 i think after reading around , if so u can find a tissot fitted with the same movement for under us$500.
this retails ~us$4000, discount controlled ~25%..

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Added on May 21, 2010, 10:29 amthe cream in Alligator is in stock, the black in calf leather also in stock.
Alligator is more expensive leather.. kinda cost more ~rm$990
http://www.christopherward.co.uk/nearly-ne...en/nnc5skk.html

This post has been edited by patryn33: May 21 2010, 10:29 AM

@miaopurr

the prices on the new Benarus watch are out.. its US$450 or US$500 (PVD) on special offer from May 21 - June 4, 2010. regular price is US$100 more.
pretty good price for a new miyota 9015 (1st miyota that is hacking)
http://www.benaruswatches.com/remora/

pic of the movement
http://forums2.watchuseek.com/showthread.p...=2035465&page=2