i dunno about wildcat and his campaign for supps
but as for angrydog, i guess his uber genes helped a lot no?


watching his pics only makes me wanna add more food in my 6 meal a day plan
damn

ENOUGH BITCHING!

You guys must have lose sense of what this topic is meant for and what this section is for.

Take all your personal war out of here. Continue in MSN, start a forum or blog and continue arguing there for all I care.

This post has been edited by b00n: Jun 7 2010, 09:48 AM

U need carbohydrate for ur post workout and from ur diet plan, my advise is to reduce ur carbs intake and take more protein for the meal after. lol, Ice cream has too much of sugar, tats y i m asking u to take olive or coconut oil (they produce huge amount of calories). But if u r not gaining any fat by having spaghetti or brown rice at night, then no worries, coz in my case, i m super sensitive to carbs and any extra can c me getting fat obviously.

Angrydog grew on KFC...

Lol! He tells me he gnaws on a live cow sometimes.

hey guys.. im training hard but when i checked my body stats i gained about 2.5% of fat in a week.. from 11-13.5%

i take alot of protein and milk.. i think i gain like 90% fat and 10% muscle only.. i gained 1 kg and all are fat =(

I am already very skinny.. is it possible that my genetics are so bad that I can only gain fat but not muscle.. i don't wanna be at 50kg with 20% fat

the only positive results i get is im getting stronger.. but other than that.. not much i guess.. dem..

Its ur diet.

Show us ur diet plan and how many time u workout a week.

wake up : 500ml milk + whey and soy protein (all together about 25g protein) and 1 tablet of fish oil

12pm lunch : rice with vege + meat + brown rice

3pm : 500ml milk + whey and soy protein

7pm dinner : rice with vege + meat + soup

9-10.30pm : work out

right after.. maggi goreng + 500 milk + whey and soy protein then sleep

Note:
- I do have snacks like nuts and fruits sometimes.. bananas too
- I don't take bodybuilding protein.. I take the health one by herbalife
- I'm following stronglifts 5x5 program working out 3 times / week
- My strength is still increasing
- I'm just afraid of gaining alot of fat.. I know i should eat more but if I'm gaining fat by eating this little then I'll gain alot more if i increase my food intake ~.~
maybe got building muscle problem genetic disorder -.-

You're not training like a bodybuilder. 5 x 5 is a good program, if you don't want to look like a bb'er that is. Not dissin it but you're not going to gain what you're hoping to achieve brother.

Take out that damn maggi goreng. The only time I eat a triple maggi goreng is on weekends. Fish oil also before sleep. If you're the type who puts on fat too easily, go easy on the milk and go for more egg whites instead.

My breakfast sometimes hits more than 60 grams of protein. Ain't enough carbs and protein in there bro.

hm.. lemme giv a brief history of myself..

i was very small last time.. one of the smallest and weakest in class (high school).. im about 40 kilograms.. some of my classmates are 70.. without going to the gym..

they are naturally this big (got muscle mass at ard 18% fat - don't know how they become so big without going gym) and im this small.. shitty genetics.. ok to be fair there are some who are like 50 kg also

i'm not sure if i gain fat easily or not but i was at 41kg at 7% fat and now 13.5% at 48kg.. not sure if thats gaining fat easily

i don wanna be a bodybuilder.. i jus wanna gain weight.. too skinny.. but if gain an unhealthy amount of fat.. then no point la.. got other risk of diseases..

how many max egg yolk per day can we eat?

it looks to me u drink more than u eat man.
for breakfast may u can have a few eggs plus wholemeal bread or oat.
tea break u can have fruits and nuts.

hm ok.. I will try to incorporate it into my diet.. but those extra calories won't make me gain more fat? ~.~

Sigh gooni3. You can't get big so easily. It takes years to build lean muscle mass. Bodybuilding is a lifestyle, not just working out in the gym.

You'll want most of your calories to come from nutrient sense foods.

i cant imagine y anyone would call u fat if u weigh only 50kg.

How much protein can we actually digest in one meal? Isn't 60g above the roof? I sometimes limit myself to 30g+ max.

hm.. ok i get it now..

means its hard to build muscle but after u build it after years of hard work..

the good thing is even if u don't maintain it u also won't revert back to like when u first started.. maybe just lose half of it..

am i right to say this?

If not mistaken, i read it from tmuscle, it is depend on ur size, 30g is not a maximum, just tat too often ppl using 180 lbs as example and end up 30g per meal.

ultimately its all up to you dude. its your body and you should treat it the way you want to. If you feel you're fat, fine; go do some cardio in addition to weightlifting. As long as you're leading a healthy lifestyle i dont see how its gonna do you bad. Some bb'ers make it a habit to jog 5 miles whenever they have access calories. (ref: scooby, i read it in his webbie).

as for myself, i have tried bulking up too. to the point im force feeding myself. Feel damn bloated the whole day. True, I gained mass, but with that a belly as well. So I included cardio 2 times a week + bball whenever I can make it, and it feels GREAT! Lost the tummy, gained stamina and better cut. I wouldn't mind bulking up slower, but I'm damned sure I want to enjoy the progress.

and about the drama
chill guys. sometimes to know your mistake and admitting it makes the man. what terry said made a good impression. There's so few of us. We shouldn't be making enemies here of all places.

Well bro, thought about how some ifbb pros take more than 400 grams daily? Even if they eat 8 times a day, 8 x 30 = just 240 grams.