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 Lenovo ideapad Y460/Y560 Thread, Gaming nerd in a business package

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post May 8 2010, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(leng2 @ May 8 2010, 12:08 PM)
hey sam... how did the game test with wireless keyboard+mice go?
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no control lag o
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post May 8 2010, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 8 2010, 12:12 PM)
no control lag o
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good to hear that... which brand+model u using and how much?
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post May 8 2010, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 8 2010, 11:51 AM)
for notebook, shud be using :

Intel X-25M Gen 2 80GB SSD rite?
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Both 80GB X-25M and 64GB Kingston SSD Now+ are the good SSD.

I have both. x-25M in my 5745G and Kingston in my netbook.
x-25M has the fastest read speed.
Kingston SSD+ is slightly slower but it has balance performance in both read/write.

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QUOTE(leng2 @ May 8 2010, 12:18 PM)
good to hear that... which brand+model u using and how much?
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i using nub brand nia, cheapest in the market i think. forget the name d @@

but just bought another one, logitech one, cheapest version too. haha.

gona get another 1 soon biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 8 2010, 01:11 PM)
Both 80GB X-25M and 64GB Kingston SSD Now+ are the good SSD.

I have both. x-25M in my 5745G and Kingston in my netbook.
x-25M has the fastest read speed.
Kingston SSD+ is slightly slower but it has balance performance in both read/write.
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i see....thanks smile.gif

gona consider liao tongue.gif


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post May 8 2010, 02:11 PM

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wow..this ssd seems like a great deal. what is the price market now? oh and do u guys know any free softwares to recover deleted files
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post May 8 2010, 02:14 PM

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I just booked the Y460 and paid the deposit for the RM 3599 version. I was planning to get the SXPS 16 with ATI 5730 but I don't want to play the waiting game forever. Y460 is the only laptop readily available locally with ATI 5650. Other laptops like ASUS or 4820tg Acer are either out of stock or only have the ATI 5450 option.

I tried to find reviews of this laptop online but so far I can only find news listing about Y460. Thus I relied mostly on this forum thread to know more about this laptop. From what I gather, Y460 runs hot but if I use a laptop cooler, it should be fine. Will there be throttling issues like the SXPS when the cpu goes above 80C?

Lastly, I heard that dx11 games run faster than dx10. However a lot of times, I heard low to mid end cards like 5450 and 5650 are unable to use dx11 though on paper they can. I'm confused by these two seemingly contradictory statements. Could an expert enlighten me please? Thanks.

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QUOTE(TealTurino @ May 8 2010, 02:14 PM)
I just booked the Y460 and paid the deposit for the RM 5599 version. I was planning to get the SXPS 16 with ATI 5730 but I don't want to play the waiting game forever. Y460 is the only laptop readily available locally with ATI 5650. Other laptops like ASUS or 4820tg Acer are either out of stock or only have the ATI 5450 option.

I tried to find reviews of this laptop online but so far I can only find news listing about Y460. Thus I relied mostly on this forum thread to know more about this laptop. From what I gather, Y460 runs hot but if I use a laptop cooler, it should be fine. Will there be throttling issues like the SXPS when the cpu goes above 80C?

Lastly, I heard that dx11 games run faster than dx10. However a lot of times, I heard low to mid end cards like 5450 and 5650 are unable to use dx11 though on paper they can. I'm confused by these two seemingly contradictory statements. Could an expert enlighten me please? Thanks.
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Care to list down the spec for this Y460 @RM5599 shocking.gif..i tot its only RM3599 the highest shocking.gif..typo??? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 8 2010, 10:03 AM)
@Mie131085

The temp on your laptop does look good but somehow I'm a bit curious why your GPU clock is lower than usual... it should be 450/800 idle and 550/800 load.

If you have a screenshot on GPU-Z showing the HD 5650 info, that will let us know more smile.gif.
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hi . . . i having the same problem as mie 131085 it seem like my GPU in idle mode is 100/150 and 300/300 at load. and i wondering where can i download the latest GPU driver for this laptop. thx tongue.gif

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i think i found the problem edi . . . its the graphic card power play option. Even though im using plugged in mode but before i use plugged in mode im using battery so after plugged in, i need to manually change the plugged in to maximize performance. LOL i duno why . . . by default it shud detect itself. BTW does anyone know where can i download the latest GPU driver for this laptop . . . Thx smile.gif

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QUOTE(TealTurino @ May 8 2010, 02:14 PM)
I just booked the Y460 and paid the deposit for the RM 5599 version. I was planning to get the SXPS 16 with ATI 5730 but I don't want to play the waiting game forever. Y460 is the only laptop readily available locally with ATI 5650. Other laptops like ASUS or 4820tg Acer are either out of stock or only have the ATI 5450 option.

I tried to find reviews of this laptop online but so far I can only find news listing about Y460. Thus I relied mostly on this forum thread to know more about this laptop. From what I gather, Y460 runs hot but if I use a laptop cooler, it should be fine. Will there be throttling issues like the SXPS when the cpu goes above 80C?

Lastly, I heard that dx11 games run faster than dx10. However a lot of times, I heard low to mid end cards like 5450 and 5650 are unable to use dx11 though on paper they can. I'm confused by these two seemingly contradictory statements. Could an expert enlighten me please? Thanks.
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Wow, at RM5599, it's the most expensive Y460 thus far....mind to share what's the spec? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(bluesky413 @ May 8 2010, 02:43 PM)
hi . . . i having the same problem as mie 131085 it seem like my GPU in idle mode is 100/150 and 300/300 at load. and i wondering where can i download the latest GPU driver for this laptop. thx  tongue.gif

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bcoz i notice when u choose the power plan setting,
it also will affect the graphic card performance..
..try take alook at ur power plan setting.. on advanced power setting
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post May 8 2010, 03:21 PM

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this laptop so many weird noise from inside la.. u guys have any noise?

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post May 8 2010, 03:33 PM

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It's a typo. Should be RM 3566.
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post May 8 2010, 03:48 PM

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i had tested it with GTA4 :EFLC with the following setting

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after i change to some setting to medium , it seem like not much change

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Even though it's 20+ FPS but it also quite lag, the movement is like teleporting.

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teleporting? not so cham la...

but my FPS 27 oooo
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post May 8 2010, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(bluesky413 @ May 8 2010, 03:48 PM)
Statistics
Average FPS: 23.26
Duration: 33.23 sec
CPU Usage: 67%
System memory usage: 68%
Video memory usage: 57%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1366 x 768 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: High
Shadow Quality: High
Reflection Resolution: High
Water Quality: High
Texture Filter Quality: Anisotropic x4


Even though it's 20+ FPS but it also quite lag, the movement is like teleporting.
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Try change the AF setting to none and see how it performs. Try use High Performance mode and see how it goes too. smile.gif As for GPU-Z, even the latest version isn't able to accurately detect most mobile graphic's spec.

@synz

What kinda sound you're mentioning? HDD? Fan?


Btw, I've confirmed you can OC HD 5650 to 5730 w/ the same heat produce(idle/load) so it's safe thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 8 2010, 05:09 PM)
Try change the AF setting to none and see how it performs. Try use High Performance mode and see how it goes too. smile.gif As for GPU-Z, even the latest version isn't able to accurately detect most mobile graphic's spec.

@synz

What kinda sound you're mentioning? HDD? Fan?
Btw, I've confirmed you can OC HD 5650 to 5730 w/ the same heat produce(idle/load) so it's safe  thumbup.gif
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probably a noob question but how do u overclock hd 5650?
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Wow really? But how bout the voltage? Any changes? My guess is no changes if no heat difference produced...hmmm
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QUOTE(TealTurino @ May 8 2010, 02:14 PM)
I just booked the Y460 and paid the deposit for the RM 3599 version. I was planning to get the SXPS 16 with ATI 5730 but I don't want to play the waiting game forever. Y460 is the only laptop readily available locally with ATI 5650. Other laptops like ASUS or 4820tg Acer are either out of stock or only have the ATI 5450 option.

I tried to find reviews of this laptop online but so far I can only find news listing about Y460. Thus I relied mostly on this forum thread to know more about this laptop. From what I gather, Y460 runs hot but if I use a laptop cooler, it should be fine. Will there be throttling issues like the SXPS when the cpu goes above 80C?

Lastly, I heard that dx11 games run faster than dx10. However a lot of times, I heard low to mid end cards like 5450 and 5650 are unable to use dx11 though on paper they can. I'm confused by these two seemingly contradictory statements. Could an expert enlighten me please? Thanks.
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Y460 will not throtle the CPU speed even it is hot(more than 90C) , that's why it can produce a lot of heat when stressing

if you want your y460 to produce less heat, then you can manually throtle your cpu power, it definitely procduce less heat, but poorer performnace too.

you can either choose performnace or heat reduction, you can't have both
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Had another gaming session for >2 hours playing AC 2. Screenshot took while I'm just past 2 hours mark.
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Game @all high settings 1280X720. OCed to HD 5730 and lowered CPU speed. GPU ave. 68C so the heat is bearable thumbup.gif .

@rubrubrub

the answer is already on last few pages.

@Izwan898

No need voltage tweak.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 8 2010, 10:03 AM)
@Mie131085

The temp on your laptop does look good but somehow I'm a bit curious why your GPU clock is lower than usual... it should be 450/800 idle and 550/800 load.

If you have a screenshot on GPU-Z showing the HD 5650 info, that will let us know more smile.gif.
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Here is my GPU HD 5650 Info:
Left - Maximize Performance, Right - Maximize Battery Life
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i made changes on power option (on advanced power settings):
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also can be changed at Catalyst control (Power Play):
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yep, by doing this, it does affect the game performance, tongue.gif

this setting (Maximize Battery Life) is good for for some games that utilize less than 300MHz GPU Clock
by doing this, user can have a more longer battery life nod.gif

for heavy games, better use Maximize Performance (400 - 500MHz) instead tongue.gif


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