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 Lenovo ideapad Y460/Y560 Thread, Gaming nerd in a business package

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post May 7 2010, 02:40 PM

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For me, it's still not the time to replace my HDD to SSD just a simple fact, capacity. You'll love the speedy boot up, transfer files and accessing HDD but in end, capacity will be your main concern which most games and programs take up many spaces within few months. You can store your programs on another external drive but it's not the best solution imo.

Btw, SSD doesn't make much of a difference in gaming.
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post May 7 2010, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 7 2010, 02:40 PM)
For me, it's still not the time to replace my HDD to SSD just a simple fact, capacity. You'll love the speedy boot up, transfer files and accessing HDD but in end, capacity will be your main concern which most games and programs take up many spaces within few months. You can store your programs on another external drive but it's not the best solution imo.

Btw, SSD doesn't make much of a difference in gaming.
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Hrmm, you have a point, the price/capacity ratio is way too screwed up for SDDs. But, IINM the Y460 comes with a 500GB 5200RPM HD, would the performance boost be noticable if I change it to a 7200RPM unit? Coz I multitask alot and I really appreciate the speedy access times. An SSD would probably reduce alot of heat and increase battery life at the same time., although the price is still too high and the capacity is too low... hrmm... hmm.gif

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Pros & Cons between SSD & HDD.
See which one you prefer. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Maverick_Neutron @ May 7 2010, 03:10 PM)
Hrmm, you have a point, the price/capacity ratio is way too screwed up for SDDs. But, IINM the Y460 comes with a 500GB 5200RPM HD, would the performance boost be noticable if I change it to a 7200RPM unit? Coz I multitask alot and I really appreciate the speedy access times. An SSD would probably reduce alot of heat and increase battery life at the same time., although the price is still too high and the capacity is too low... hrmm...  hmm.gif
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I have used 2.5" 7200rpm HDD.
The performance is no where near the SSD.
For notebook, upgrading to SSD will give you excellent performance gain.
I can't resist to SSD now.

I even upgraded to SSD for my netbook.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/830613/+1267

With SSD, your notebook is no longer notebook. It's running like high performance desktop.
With SSD, your netbook is no longer netbook. It's running like notebook.
Get what I mean? laugh.gif


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post May 7 2010, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 6 2010, 01:04 PM)
wahahah, just get myself a wireless keyboard and mouse, cheap cheap one, but ok la biggrin.gif

this weekend can enjoice liao biggrin.gif
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sam, did u try to game with the wireless keyboard & mouse? say like first person shooter game... any lag or not?
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QUOTE(leng2 @ May 7 2010, 04:04 PM)
sam, did u try to game with the wireless keyboard & mouse? say like first person shooter game... any lag or not?
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good question. I try it with GTA4, seems laggy. But don't knw isit game requirement too high hence lag or what.

Later try play with normal one see how
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 7 2010, 04:24 PM)
good question. I try it with GTA4, seems laggy. But don't knw isit game requirement too high hence lag or what.

Later try play with normal one see how
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Why not lower the settings? use medium?
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lagging as in control's lag, not the graphics lag...
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 7 2010, 03:45 PM)
I have used 2.5" 7200rpm HDD.
The performance is no where near the SSD.
For notebook, upgrading to SSD will give you excellent performance gain.
I can't resist to SSD now.

I even upgraded to SSD for my netbook.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/830613/+1267

With SSD, your notebook is no longer notebook. It's running like high performance desktop.
With SSD, your netbook is no longer netbook. It's running like notebook.
Get what I mean?  laugh.gif
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Bro, any changes in the power consumption after changed to SSD? Should be better in theory right? hmm.gif
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post May 7 2010, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ May 7 2010, 04:24 PM)
good question. I try it with GTA4, seems laggy. But don't knw isit game requirement too high hence lag or what.

Later try play with normal one see how
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GTA 4 does require bit more juice than usual games so it's better to do a benchmark test which comes with it and see which settings play nice with HD 5650. smile.gif
As for keyboard lag, that might related to graphics also, but you can try switch between laptop keyboard and wireless to see the difference.
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ May 7 2010, 08:58 PM)
Why not lower the settings? use medium?
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already use o, but still lagging abit when driving


QUOTE(leng2 @ May 7 2010, 10:21 PM)
lagging as in control's lag, not the graphics lag...
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control lag macam tarak eh

QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 7 2010, 10:34 PM)
GTA 4 does require bit more juice than usual games so it's better to do a benchmark test which comes with it and see which settings play nice with HD 5650. smile.gif
As for keyboard lag, that might related to graphics also, but you can try switch between laptop keyboard and wireless to see the difference.
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hm...yea hor, i shud use the benchmark test see how how....thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 7 2010, 03:45 PM)
I have used 2.5" 7200rpm HDD.
The performance is no where near the SSD.
For notebook, upgrading to SSD will give you excellent performance gain.
I can't resist to SSD now.

I even upgraded to SSD for my netbook.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/830613/+1267

With SSD, your notebook is no longer notebook. It's running like high performance desktop.
With SSD, your netbook is no longer netbook. It's running like notebook.
Get what I mean?  laugh.gif
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If change to SSD, how to clone the HDD data to SSD? Any recommended software to do so?

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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ May 7 2010, 10:29 PM)
Bro, any changes in the power consumption after changed to SSD? Should be better in theory right? hmm.gif
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Theoretically SSD should have slight lower power consumption. But i think it negligible.
However, you'll find SSD runs at much lower temperature. SSD is lighter too.

For notebook, there are not many parts you can replace to boost the performance.
SSD becomes the most crucial upgrade for notebook & netbook.
You just can't skip that.

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Bro, you sound like an ambassador or a priest from the temple of SSD.. heh.. jk chill. But yeah, can't deny the facts that its a big performance boost. If the Y460 has 2 HD bays, it would be a no brainer, but unfortunately has only 1.. so, have to think about it abit.. I might go for it tho, an 80GB module could be bearable... just... biggrin.gif
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post May 8 2010, 02:57 AM

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I wan to ask about the touchpad izzit sensitive as macbook??
I mean for double touch function.. ^^
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post May 8 2010, 03:27 AM

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here is the test on Modern Warfare 2:

NOTE: this is based on Power Plan setting - i've choose Power Saver mode (with a lil'bit changes on it's own current setting)
this test also is on plug-in - without using battery
if i didnt make any changes on the current setting (Power Saver mode),
the temp will be a lil'bit higher (around 3c-5c)
game setting: high

during the test:
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after the test:
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..next will try to test it out on SC - FA (Supreme Commander 2 - Forged Alliance)

biggrin.gif in the future, will test it out on Supreme Commander 2, Dirt 2 ..

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post May 8 2010, 10:03 AM

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@Mie131085

The temp on your laptop does look good but somehow I'm a bit curious why your GPU clock is lower than usual... it should be 450/800 idle and 550/800 load.

If you have a screenshot on GPU-Z showing the HD 5650 info, that will let us know more smile.gif.
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ May 7 2010, 11:35 PM)
If change to SSD, how to clone the HDD data to SSD? Any recommended software to do so?

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Active Image 4.0 / Acronis True Image 2010 / Norton Ghost can do the job just fine.


Added on May 8, 2010, 10:21 am
QUOTE(Maverick_Neutron @ May 8 2010, 12:50 AM)
Bro, you sound like an ambassador or a priest from the temple of SSD.. heh.. jk chill. But yeah, can't deny the facts that its a big performance boost. If the Y460 has 2 HD bays, it would be a no brainer, but unfortunately has only 1.. so, have to think about it abit.. I might go for it tho, an 80GB module could be bearable... just... biggrin.gif
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Storage is not an issue.
You can have SSD in your notebook.
Take out the HDD from your notebook, get an enclosure and use it as external storage.


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post May 8 2010, 11:51 AM

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for notebook, shud be using :

Intel X-25M Gen 2 80GB SSD rite?

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hey sam... how did the game test with wireless keyboard+mice go?

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