i think with 30 medical schools in our country, we don't need to send any scholar to countries like indon, india, russia or egypt anymore. the gomen should improve the facilities and recruit more qualified lecturers rather than those maynmar, india and bangladesh lecturers who don't have much clinical knowledge. by the way, now we r the country with the highest number of medical schools per capita in the world! malaysia boleh!!

Disagree. I was comparing big tasty apples to normal apples. Msian grad still completing their housemanship as of now; not even counting the bond.

what 'bond' are you talking about?....

there will always be 1-2 years difference, in any cohort in any country, depending on one's pathway......

eg, matrik students will graduate 1 year younger than stpm students.....

monash/newcastle/utas students will graduate 1 year faster than other undergraduate entry med schools......(5 vs 6 year course)..........

Msian docs need to serve minimum of years. You know this right?

that is not a 'bond'.........

it is called compulsory service, and is currently 2 years.......

it applies to all doctors, irrespective of where you graduate from..........so those who studied elsewhere, if you have done a recognised housemanship, when/if you return to msia, you will be exempt from housemanship here, but you will still need to do the compulsory service..........

there are exemptions now, for senior doctors......you can check with the mmc website as to what the conditions for exemption are.........

in the near future, it is foreseeable that this compulsory may be abolished, when there become a surplus of doctors i the public sector........i expect this to happen within the next 10 years........

Maid exchange for doc?

not really......

more doctors will be trained in indonesia........

if you are aware of the standard and quality of healthcare in indonesia, you may start to feel fearful now....

there is a good reason why so many indonesians go out to spore/penang/malacca/kuching for medical treatment.......

Ya, I guess that's why whenever I'm in Adventist Hospital in Penang, I feel like I'm in Indonesia!

At least you know that you are getting quality medical care. But for some reason in the local context you have an 'Egyptian' feeling, then you have much to worry!

darknite is referring to the number of indonesian patients in some private hopsitals.....not the doctors working there........

the current crop of senior doctors in msia are mostly still well trained ones from good universities, many from uk/oz.....which is why the indons are coming.....this will change over the next 20 years........

Yea. I got what he was saying. I am trying to visualise a situation when one is treated or attended to by Egypt graduated doctors.

the indons will likely stop coming, for one........

well, that is not surprising. Recently, we were shocked to know that there are 5000 medical students in egypt currently, which translate to approx 1000 per year. the 1st batch i believe gonna graduate soon this year. Just for the info, last year there were around 5000 new HO working in our hospitals. the number might reach 7000 this year. The best part is, more than half are not well trained. god bless malaysia
also, out of the 30(31 soon) medical schools in malaysia, more than half are yet to produce graduates...in 2015, you throw a stone and u'll hit 2 doctors on the street

That's what a doctor told me. By 5-10 years, doctors will be like people so sells toys down the street.

or they really have to sell toys!! coz the post UD41 will be saturated soon. Which means the government can no longer provide housemanship training for newly graduate doctors. They have to wait for the old HO to complete their housemanship and upgrade to UD44 before new post available. If this trend continues, don't surprise to see MBBS or MD holder trying to sell u toys in the future

Oh wow. Just found out that monash Sunway mbbs gaduates can work at Australia. NO need take extra exams.

When I was there for a talk, I could sense the 'This is why we charge so much, you see. Consider it as an investment' vibe from the speaker.

Paying Malaysian fees but can work at Australia. Not that bad ma.

Care to explain how that works?

Well, the thing with Monash Sunway is you're essentially receiving a Malaysian qualification (lecturers and staff are Malaysians, classmates are Malaysians and patients are Malaysians). I don't see how studying at Monash Sunway makes it any more Australian than the other private medical schools.

And I honestly don't even know where Monash Sunway stands when it comes to internship allocation. I'm sure you have heard of the medical student tsunami in Australia - there may not even be enough internships for domestic students in Victoria.

You may want to check out the internship guide from the Postgraduate Medical Council of Victoria.

http://computermatching.pmcv.com.au/public...ntroduction.pdf

ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR PARTICIPATING IN INTERN MATCH
 Australian Trained (Permanent Resident) Graduate of a Victorian Medical Faculty
 Temporary Resident Medical Graduate of a Victorian Medical Faculty (i.e. international full-fee
student)
 Australian Trained (Permanent Resident) Graduate of an Interstate Medical Faculty
 Temporary Resident Medical Graduate of an Interstate Medical Faculty (i.e. international full-fee
student)
 New Zealand Medical School Graduate (Australian Permanent Resident or New Zealand citizen)
 Australian Medical Council Graduate (Permanent Resident) who requires a 12 months supervised
placement

Now seriously, which category does Monash Sunway fall into? You can't possibly be an international full-fee student because you commenced your studies as a Malaysian student at a Malaysian campus

Interesting note:
IMPORTANT INFORMATION for all full-fee international students who are graduates of Australian
Medical Schools:
Full-fee international medical graduates from Australian medical schools, who are not required to complete an
internship in their country of origin (visa regulations apply), can apply for internship in Victoria.
If you have been sponsored during your medical degree, and you are seeking internship, you must provide evidence
that you have gained approval from your funding or sponsorship agency to undertake internship in Victoria.

It says you need approval from your funding or scholarship agency, makes you wonder...

Lol whether there are enough internship places or not in Australia does not concern me. What interests that this degree is good in the sense that it allows you to work at two countries, no questions asked.

During the 5th year, all medical students from sunway are required to go to Australia for one semester, which is one of the requirements set by the AMC for a student from
Monah Sunway to work at Australia.