2 or 3 years ago, 1 British Pound is worth about 7 Ringgit. Now it is worth about 5 Ringgit. So why say "Fat hopes"?

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Added on March 26, 2011, 5:42 amNot constant. Sometime more, sometime less. Supposedly to adjust for inflation etc that but I doubt it.


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A bunch of my friends are called Dr. already, 1984 and 1985. Completed housemanship. Damn fast when you go overseas to study, no bond also.

that is average......they are now 26, 27..........the average age of a newly graduated doctor in the commonwealth system is 24-25.........it's the same for msia as well........

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Added on March 26, 2011, 8:56 amfull fees at the usual english speaking commonwealth countries have gone up to the actual cost, and plus as well........older forumers may remember the old days when the fees were still subsidised, and how it gradually creep up to present levels.......

it is thus unlikely they will go up significantly any more, except for the inflation adjustments....

in spite of such high fees, there are no shortage of international students applying, sometimes 10 times the actual number of places available.....

at the rate of increase in msian ipts fees, some may not be worth it any more, and one might as well go straight to uk med schools, some of which are 'affordable' at current exchange rates........note that the learning experience in a uk nhs trust hospital is very different from most local hospitals......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Mar 26 2011, 08:56 AM

If u can afford then going overseas is surely the better choice. Though there are a few good ipts like imu or pmc but most local med school are lack of academic staffs. The fees in imu or pmc etc are not cheap either. Better go to australia or uk to study.
But my advice is don't take up medicine if u r not passionate to become a doctor. For those who r thinking of money, fame etc might have to reconsider because in 5 years time, doctors might be jobless. Now already there's a glut of HO in all hospitals. Spending so much money is no longer a good investment

I talked to the deputy head if medicine of Monash the other day. Apparently monash can take in as many students as they want as the lecturer to student ratio is very very healthy. The only limiting factor now is the lack of classrooms. When the new building is completed I won be surprised ifthey take in 200 people.

However for this years intake they only took in about 120 plus when they can fit 160 at the current infrastructure.

Many of the new and expensive IPTS are dependent on Jpa and Mara to provide the students.We will have a better idea when the next batch of scholars are announced. Indonesia may also be a reciprocal beneficiary if the maids agreement is sorted out and the gomen is looking for cheaper alternatives.

i think with 30 medical schools in our country, we don't need to send any scholar to countries like indon, india, russia or egypt anymore. the gomen should improve the facilities and recruit more qualified lecturers rather than those maynmar, india and bangladesh lecturers who don't have much clinical knowledge. by the way, now we r the country with the highest number of medical schools per capita in the world! malaysia boleh!!

Disagree. I was comparing big tasty apples to normal apples. Msian grad still completing their housemanship as of now; not even counting the bond.

what 'bond' are you talking about?....

there will always be 1-2 years difference, in any cohort in any country, depending on one's pathway......

eg, matrik students will graduate 1 year younger than stpm students.....

monash/newcastle/utas students will graduate 1 year faster than other undergraduate entry med schools......(5 vs 6 year course)..........

Msian docs need to serve minimum of years. You know this right?

that is not a 'bond'.........

it is called compulsory service, and is currently 2 years.......

it applies to all doctors, irrespective of where you graduate from..........so those who studied elsewhere, if you have done a recognised housemanship, when/if you return to msia, you will be exempt from housemanship here, but you will still need to do the compulsory service..........

there are exemptions now, for senior doctors......you can check with the mmc website as to what the conditions for exemption are.........

in the near future, it is foreseeable that this compulsory may be abolished, when there become a surplus of doctors i the public sector........i expect this to happen within the next 10 years........

Maid exchange for doc?

not really......

more doctors will be trained in indonesia........

if you are aware of the standard and quality of healthcare in indonesia, you may start to feel fearful now....

there is a good reason why so many indonesians go out to spore/penang/malacca/kuching for medical treatment.......

Ya, I guess that's why whenever I'm in Adventist Hospital in Penang, I feel like I'm in Indonesia!

At least you know that you are getting quality medical care. But for some reason in the local context you have an 'Egyptian' feeling, then you have much to worry!

darknite is referring to the number of indonesian patients in some private hopsitals.....not the doctors working there........

the current crop of senior doctors in msia are mostly still well trained ones from good universities, many from uk/oz.....which is why the indons are coming.....this will change over the next 20 years........

Yea. I got what he was saying. I am trying to visualise a situation when one is treated or attended to by Egypt graduated doctors.

the indons will likely stop coming, for one........

well, that is not surprising. Recently, we were shocked to know that there are 5000 medical students in egypt currently, which translate to approx 1000 per year. the 1st batch i believe gonna graduate soon this year. Just for the info, last year there were around 5000 new HO working in our hospitals. the number might reach 7000 this year. The best part is, more than half are not well trained. god bless malaysia
also, out of the 30(31 soon) medical schools in malaysia, more than half are yet to produce graduates...in 2015, you throw a stone and u'll hit 2 doctors on the street

That's what a doctor told me. By 5-10 years, doctors will be like people so sells toys down the street.