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post Mar 21 2011, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(plain_white @ Mar 21 2011, 06:47 PM)
Blood pressure in paediatric patients are according to the centile chart for age or height. The one according to age is more commonly use. The reference value is inside the paediatrics protocol. I thought every clinical year student or doctor should at least know that.... rolleyes.gif
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ah~ I have no idea how to refer to the height percentile though =/ Think I'm suppose to refer back to the growth chart for reference. We have a program to follow a kid from birth till she/he is 2 years old, and we chart the movements and everything else =) which is interesting. Guess it's like a 'pre-pediatrics' learning for me =)
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QUOTE(plain_white @ Mar 21 2011, 08:30 PM)
lol...just to answer your question. for child age 3-5 more or equal 116/76 is condider significant hypertension and more and equal 124/86 is severe hypertension...
http://www.mpaweb.org.my/file_dir/8863103084bc81dd1a9a73.pdf
the download link is here in case you need more details

p/s: busy and stress for my final exam now so lazy to type all
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post Mar 21 2011, 10:18 PM

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Hi! May I know what is the common cause of costocondrtits....Because my friend said she had been coughing and this actually to the costocondritis which already diagnosed by the doctor...but I'm not sure how does this happen....increase intra-thoracic pressure the causing costochondral junctions injury??

But coughing should cause more effect on intra-abdominal pressure...

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post Mar 22 2011, 07:03 AM

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QUOTE(MBBS siang @ Mar 21 2011, 10:18 PM)
Hi! May I know what is the common cause of costocondrtits....Because my friend said she had been coughing and this actually to the costocondritis which already diagnosed by the doctor...but I'm not sure how does this happen....increase intra-thoracic pressure the causing costochondral junctions injury??

But coughing should cause more effect on intra-abdominal pressure...
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Not a doc but last time I had it was due to lack of T3 due to inefficiency in conversion by the adrenal glands. Main cause? Severe stress.
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Mar 22 2011, 08:03 AM)
Not a doc but last time I had it was due to lack of T3 due to inefficiency in conversion by the adrenal glands. Main cause? Severe stress.
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T3 not converted efficiently by adrenal gland? You mean thyroid gland is it? T3 deficiency? How does this related to costacondritis?

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post Mar 23 2011, 05:34 PM

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Have you noticed that AIMST is putting up media advertisements looking for students to sign up for Foundation in Business and Diploma programs in Nursing and Physiotherapy AND no signs of intake for Medical programs?

Even in Education pull-outs in the newspapers, the focus is not on Medical or Dentistry programs not unlike the previous years where the emphasis is on your university of choice for Medic.
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post Mar 23 2011, 06:26 PM

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it is probably that they are already full in these coursers, and thus not open for applications any more........

they are trying to diversify into other courses, which are obviously NOT that popular (no surprise, why go to a ulu god forsaken place to do business or nursing???)...........hence the need to advertise.......
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Probably true. With only 200 places available for medic and the gomen freeze in place, will have a tough time managing the college.

Over the weekend, had the opportunity to speak to the Registrar of the Newcastle University in Johor at an education fair at KLCC. Was informed that medic program will commence intake this September and the fees is about RM90,000 per annum (same as Monash), with a 6 months attachment to Newcastle UK in the 4th year and an option to complete the 5th year over there. Was also told that they have done 2 earlier intakes and the students will be coming back to do their 3rd year locally.

I was told that Medic will be the main program and maybe medical related programs like biomedical sciences may be added on later. No plans to add engineering or business programs as their reputation is on Medic!

The issue is with only 100 places, will it be sustainable? The Sheffield University fiasco in Perak is a grim reminder.
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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Mar 24 2011, 11:18 AM)
Probably true. With only 200 places available for medic and the gomen freeze in place, will have a tough time managing the college.

Over the weekend, had the opportunity to speak to the Registrar of the Newcastle University in Johor at an education fair at KLCC. Was informed that medic program will commence intake this September and the fees is about RM90,000 per annum (same as Monash), with a 6 months attachment to Newcastle UK in the 4th year and an option to complete the 5th year over there. Was also told that they have done 2 earlier intakes and the students will be coming back to do their 3rd year locally.

I was told that Medic will be the main program and maybe medical related programs like biomedical sciences may be added on later. No plans to add engineering or business programs as their reputation is on Medic!

The issue is with only 100 places, will it be sustainable? The Sheffield University fiasco in Perak is a grim reminder.
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Let me see....RM90,000/year or GBP18000/year. Total 5 years is GBP90,000 which is roughly similar to what you pay if you go study in UK. Looks like the only saving is in cost of living.

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Mar 24 2011, 11:21 AM)
Let me see....RM90,000/year or GBP18000/year. Total 5 years is GBP90,000 which is roughly similar to what you pay if you go study in UK. Looks like the only saving is in cost of living.
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In fact I was told it is cheaper in UK at Newcastle for the first 2 years @ GBP 14,000 per year but from the third year onwards, it would double up to GBP 28,000 per year.
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uk med schools have a differential system of fees, (which is more honest, and reflect the actual cost of the actual academic programme), where the 1st 2 pre-clinical years are charged like any other lecture/lab based programme, and the 3 clinical years then charged higher as reflecting the change in teaching........that's what optiplex means, as the averaging out for the 5 years will come also to about 90-100k pounds........

as for living cost, some smaller towns in uk is not much more than kl.......and you also have the option, at least in the 1st 2 years, of doing some part time job to help with expenses........

similarly, those who partner to uk from imu have little savings from the fees.........
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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Mar 24 2011, 11:18 AM)
Probably true. With only 200 places available for medic and the gomen freeze in place, will have a tough time managing the college.

Over the weekend, had the opportunity to speak to the Registrar of the Newcastle University in Johor at an education fair at KLCC. Was informed that medic program will commence intake this September and the fees is about RM90,000 per annum (same as Monash), with a 6 months attachment to Newcastle UK in the 4th year and an option to complete the 5th year over there. Was also told that they have done 2 earlier intakes and the students will be coming back to do their 3rd year locally.

I was told that Medic will be the main program and maybe medical related programs like biomedical sciences may be added on later. No plans to add engineering or business programs as their reputation is on Medic!

The issue is with only 100 places, will it be sustainable? The Sheffield University fiasco in Perak is a grim reminder.
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Hey..there!I've missed out Newcastle University booth in KLCC edu fair. I jz checked their website stating that the requirement is all As.btw,I jz got my result in STPM.3A-&1B..u tink i can still apply or not?
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QUOTE(SK Chen @ Mar 25 2011, 01:53 AM)
Hey..there!I've missed out Newcastle University booth in KLCC edu fair. I jz checked their website stating that the requirement is all As.btw,I jz got my result in STPM.3A-&1B..u tink i can still apply or not?
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ada wang ada medic~ to a certain degree. true story. no offence thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(SK Chen @ Mar 25 2011, 01:53 AM)
Hey..there!I've missed out Newcastle University booth in KLCC edu fair. I jz checked their website stating that the requirement is all As.btw,I jz got my result in STPM.3A-&1B..u tink i can still apply or not?
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I think you will stand a chance. Just like Sunway Monash in the earlier years, sticking to preset qualifications may not be able to get the quota of students. Students would prefer Monash or IMU due to "better" reputation.
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for that kind of money, why not go straight to uk?........(i know, it's much more troublesome applying direct, and they may likely not recognise a- as equivalent to a levels a)

the status of the newcastle msian mbbs is unknown at the moment, as far as uk and other country recognition is concerned........spore will likely not recognise it, on their 'clinical years in home country' requirement........

if you are eventually restricted to just working in msia, i would not bother spending so much money, just go to any one of the ipts med schools........in msia, it matter little the kind of training you receive.....
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post Mar 25 2011, 05:37 PM

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How much are Monash Malaysia's fee?
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post Mar 25 2011, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Mar 25 2011, 05:37 PM)
How much are Monash Malaysia's fee?
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90k per year starting 2011....saw last yr fees list was about 86k....

if monash likely increase 4k of tuition fee for average every 2yrs...by 2015 reach 100k... by da time....i think those future students really better choose to go overseas yawn.gif
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QUOTE(mivec3gs @ Mar 25 2011, 05:53 PM)
90k per year starting 2011....saw last yr fees list was about 86k....

if monash likely increase 4k of tuition fee for average every 2yrs...by 2015 reach 100k... by da time....i think those future students really better choose to go overseas  yawn.gif
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so you think overseas uni won't raise their prices as well.........?
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If our Ringgit strengthens against the Pound and US$. Fat hopes!
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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 25 2011, 08:08 PM)
so you think overseas uni won't raise their prices as well.........?
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how much they gonna raise non of us can tell, but i think this can be part of the local political issue in the the future, let say if the rate of tuition in overseas raise same goes to local ipts, i assume government sending lesser student to overseas and place them more to ipts/ipta, will it be more competition to fight for a place in medic at tat time? den y not the rich and capable one go directly to overseas?

those are well develop countries with assume with the constant rate in raising their tuition fees, what do u think the tuition fees in malaysia for the next 20yrs while u r living in a fast developing country?

well it's just my 2 cent though laugh.gif

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