ice pain, how long u bulking?

impresssssssssssssssssive

Haih, when la I will get abdominal muscles like John91 and iceypain? Damn fed up liao. Bulking is easy. Cutting is not - just not when you're a person who has no choice but to eat out everyday, everytime, every meal.



Motivation(s) please.

This post has been edited by Florian: Nov 15 2009, 11:44 PM

Cheer up man,cutting is not easy but it is very rewarding.

Been cutting for a while now,from 98 to 85kgs,but now stagnant at 85kgs,I haven't eaten fast food for so long i even forgot what pizza tastes like!

i just had Sausage mcMuffin as breakfast after jogging... oh shi-

I am not gonna sugar coat this, If you want your abdominal muscles, you need to starting working on it. It wouldn;t magically appear, I felt into the same trap of the thought I can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.

Monday's food for thought - Concise version of rationalization from Chris Shugart
before you even begin any physique goal, learn to recognize and squash your use of rationalization

Rationalization is a type of ego-defense mechanism. Basically, rationalization involves creating false but plausible excuses to justify unacceptable behavior. Essentially, you're lying to yourself to make yourself feel better or to relieve guilt.

To relieve his guilt about stealing from the office, a person may tell himself, "Well, they underpay me anyway. It's only fair." Someone may try to relieve his guilt about cheating on his girlfriend by saying, "I'd had a few beers, so I wasn't in my right mind."

When I grasped the definition of rationalization, my ego-protecting, guilt-relieving wall of lies came crashing down. Hard. And once a person grasps the concept, it's almost impossible to un-grasp it.

I saw immediately what I was doing to myself by overeating and not working out. All my excuses became transparent. I became angry and disgusted with myself. It was a hard lesson, but from that day forward I learned to recognize rationalization and put a stop to it.

Here's the power of this recognition: once you're aware of rationalization, it's very hard to keep doing it. And once you stop doing it, it's amazing how quickly you start to achieve your goals.

As with many other aspects of life, rationalization is probably the single biggest roadblock in a person's way when he or she is trying to lose fat, add muscle, get healthy, or increase performance. We always seem to have a good reason to skip a workout or eat something we know is bad for us.

We're not lying to others about why we're doing these negative things; we're lying to ourselves.
Again, this made it very difficult to keep doing it. The act of recognition alone helped me to stop making these thin excuses and get on with changing my behaviors.

Here are some examples of rationalization related to body-transformation:

"I had a good workout today. I can have the Chinese buffet tonight."

"I've had a tough week. I deserve a big meal."

"Celery has, like, no calories, so it's okay to have on the V-Diet."

"I'll start the diet next week or next month."

And that brings us to destructive habit #2. The latter example is a special form of rationalization I call justified procrastination. To procrastinate means to put something off until another day. Justified procrastination is when you put something off -- like starting an exercise program or a diet -- but rationalize the delay. Examples include:

"I'll start the V-Diet after my birthday (or vacation or holiday, etc.)"

"Well, let me eat up all the food in my fridge first, then I'll start the V-Diet next week."

"Lemme wait until after the weekend. I'll start on Monday."

Sometimes, there may be a real reason not to start the diet (waiting for your supplement order to arrive for example.) But for the most part, the time to start any training program or diet is now.

There is great power in immediate action. Ninety-percent of delays are merely justified procrastination, and you must learn to recognize it and squash it, along with regular rationalization.

Really internalize this today and see if you catch yourself rationalizing about things that could be keeping you from reaching your goals.


powerful insights. We all know our fair share of mutants that eat crap and lift ways that some might not approved but still sport a muscular physique. If you are clearly not one, is time to relook into things.

Monday thoughts to ponder about, abit deep but yet powerful.

Cheeerrss

I honestly don't get why many people have a problem with a good diet. At one point, where I gained 58-70KG, this was the diet I stuck with.

Breakfast - Six eggs, scoop of protein shake.
Pre-lunch - Some packed tuna (1/2 cans)
Lunch - Rice and veggie and fish and beef or chicken
Pre-Workout - Bread
Post-Workout - Protein shake and glucose
Dinner - Same as lunch
Before sleeping - Milk.

And for any joker that says this is an expensive diet, it costs about RM15 a day for the WHOLE day. Include shakes it's about RM20. Those that eat and cook at home have it around RM13 including shakes. It's really not that bad, or bad at all even. Let's see if I can clean up my current diet and shed a few lbs of bodyfat. 14 day program.

Absolute truth has been spoken!

Never tell yourself its ok to have big meal after workout as you lots a lot.

So David thought sausage McMuffin was ok after jogging,you're wrong.

I adopted this mindset a long time ago,now i feel guilty if i skip a set or cheat a bit on the weights!



EDIT:

PB,care to share your diet for those 14 days,I'll follow too then we see the end results!

This post has been edited by pedro: Nov 16 2009, 11:29 AM

Have a meal every 3 hours and carbs before and after workout. CARBS only pre-workout and post workout. That's the only difference. Not that different also lah actually from my current one. I was thinking of going totally protein, but then I rmbr it takes about 8-10 days to adapt completely. So if that happens, I'd have a tough time trying to train during that adaptation phase and I'd probably have to stay on this diet for about 1 month minimum.

I've been on only protein for 8 weeks,now I've re-introduced oats as breakfast and pre-workout!

Also re-started protein shakes in the form of EAS 100% whey.

Been clean protein for 8 weeks and it helped me lose around 12kgs!

i think oats everyday but i have to supp with bfast such as bread etc
just taking oats alone makes me feel hungry.
how about u?

My breakfast is my preworkout too.

I have ard 50g of oat + half scoop of whey + 6 whole eggs + a banana.

I tried to reduce my carbs intake for my diet, taking about 20-30g of carbs for prewokout, and it doesnt really turn out well, lost strength and feel lethargic throughout the workout. ><

My stomach is used to small intakes now,so 60g of oats makes me full.
My breakfast is also pre-workout actually,at 5.30am!

how did you manage to reduce the intake? i just cant!
what else do you add to your oats meal?
mine just pure oats (the original one without any adding ingrediants) with water
sometimes feel very disgusting...

I like your persistence despite some hostility from certain members .

here goes

Cold Oatmeal
- Base
1.Blend up a scoop or two of protein powder with water and pour it over some Old Fashioned/Rolled Quaker Oats (or whatever brand, dun be so rigid !). Now, add some frozen berries (optional), 'I buy strawberries and freeze them'

2.Let it sit for 3-4 minutes in the fridge before chowing down

You can always tweak this recipe say if you use vanilla flavour protein, a hint of cinammon and some pan seared banana slices (use a lil butter to cook it).

or
1. In the base above, replace water with milk and put a little peanut butter as u blend it. Pour over your oats, sprinkle some toasted almond flakes(buy them from the supermarket and toast it in an over at 150C ) or sunflower seeds or toasted chopped walnuts
2. Let it sit for 3-4 minutes before consuming.

there you have it. no more microwaving oatmeal.

Who wants some hardcore food?

1 Can of tuna, Ice Cubes, Milk. Blend

Tats actually a AWESOME blend with frozen berries, i always had it only with whey (scivation choco) without microwave it and serve it raw. Now u make me think of going to get my berries. XD Plus it is a good anti oxidant

This post has been edited by jamis: Nov 16 2009, 02:23 PM

Berries which is sold here in our local supermarket is so expensive. Its more expensive then 1 scoop of whey, alternative is cameron highland strawberries. Well that one also getting expensive day after day....

my perfect pre workout meal,
Plain yogurt+oatmeal+raisin!
eat any egg or other protein will make me vomit during intense workout

yiakss...i cant imagine the taste

My Pre-Workout
6pm
Rice + meat@chiken (Nasi Goreng USA) + 2 halfboil egg + lemonade
7pm
Protien Shake
8.35pm
N.O Explode
9PM - workout bebeh