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post Apr 8 2009, 05:08 AM, updated 2y ago

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There are many topics here of guys whining about being rejected(no matter the reason) and then there are topics where people attempt to teach a guy how to be attractive to women. Despite how these 2 types seem different, they both share a fundamental problem. What is that problem? well let me share it with you...

They have no standards of their own

What does this mean? Well, I'll explain. To reach the widest audience possible, I'll prepare a wall of text assault and a tl;dr version tongue.gif Enjoy smile.gif

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I could probably write this better, but meh its 5am tongue.gif
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post Apr 8 2009, 05:10 AM

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i seee ..... i read this in like .. 5 secs .. good 1 hawkie ...
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post Apr 8 2009, 05:10 AM

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agreed...must play macho man music...what happened to male domination
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post Apr 8 2009, 05:13 AM

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post Apr 8 2009, 05:14 AM

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n1 bro.. this shld open those ppl eyes..
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post Apr 8 2009, 05:15 AM

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Dun whine about not getting any gals in your life bro............u c if wan a gal.......u gota walk the walk .........choose your galfren properly.....i wan ask u sumtin......if a guy doesnt know how to dress well.........we teach him ryte....or he less experience......in talking to a gal...he needs advice ryte.......so my point is we help each another...by sharing our experiences.......and 1st of all y r u in cupid corner........if ur talking about standards......u r better of ......lecturing ppl in college about standards ryte........haha...talking about standards konon......such a retard haaha summore writing in cupid corner hahah
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i'm pinning this thread to reduce the crappy stuff. biggrin.gif if people still can't understand, they need to visit a shrink or few.
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Apr 8 2009, 05:13 AM)
Just buy this and read it. Simple

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Problem with that... people get too caught onto the techniques and totally miss the essence
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post Apr 8 2009, 05:16 AM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 8 2009, 05:15 AM)
Problem with that... people get too caught onto the techniques and totally miss the essence
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That distinguishes the players from the winners.
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QUOTE(Malaysiancasanova @ Apr 8 2009, 05:15 AM)
Dun whine about not getting any gals in your life bro............u c if wan a gal.......u gota walk the walk .........choose your galfren properly.....i wan ask u sumtin......if a guy doesnt know how to dress well.........we teach him ryte....or he less experience......in talking to a gal...he needs advice ryte.......so my point is we help each another...by sharing our experiences.......and 1st of all y r u in cupid corner........if ur talking about standards......u r better of ......lecturing ppl in college about standards ryte........haha...talking about standards konon......such a retard haaha summore writing in cupid corner hahah
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Did I just hurt your feelings because you're setting up a site on "being a player"? tongue.gif

I bet you didn't read what I wrote, or worse, could not comprehend it smile.gif
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post Apr 8 2009, 05:18 AM

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aiya.......no fight only letting know my point
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QUOTE(Malaysiancasanova @ Apr 8 2009, 05:15 AM)
Dun whine about not getting any gals in your life bro............u c if wan a gal.......u gota walk the walk .........choose your galfren properly.....i wan ask u sumtin......if a guy doesnt know how to dress well.........we teach him ryte....or he less experience......in talking to a gal...he needs advice ryte.......so my point is we help each another...by sharing our experiences.......and 1st of all y r u in cupid corner........if ur talking about standards......u r better of ......lecturing ppl in college about standards ryte........haha...talking about standards konon......such a retard haaha summore writing in cupid corner hahah
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lol...and by posting this justify your so called standards? i am amused...
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QUOTE(Malaysiancasanova @ Apr 8 2009, 05:18 AM)
aiya.......no fight only letting know my point
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Same here, just letting you know that your point shows that you don't understand my point smile.gif Which is ok, you'll understand it eventually (I hope)
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post Apr 8 2009, 05:22 AM

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i didnt talk about standards ur fren just did
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QUOTE(Malaysiancasanova @ Apr 8 2009, 05:22 AM)
i didnt talk about standards ur fren just did
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i dun even know him...but from reading your post its partially implyin it already...interesting blog btw...
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post Apr 8 2009, 05:28 AM

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Added on April 8, 2009, 5:53 amhow to get a gal you want......1st Knowledge is Power ......2nd Confidence....and the last thing is luck

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post Apr 8 2009, 07:08 AM

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I'm surprised the guys here didn't already know this. But thanks, I was getting tired of giving advice to people who didn't really want it and would rather whine.
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post Apr 8 2009, 07:44 AM

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Nice one,hawk.

Thats a decent one.
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post Apr 8 2009, 09:50 AM

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1. Knowledge
2. Confidence
3. Luck
4. 'Be yourself'

ph413d!
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post Apr 8 2009, 10:54 AM

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Hugs for Hawkie, this is a worthy piece. smile.gif
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post Apr 8 2009, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Krovaxq @ Apr 8 2009, 09:50 AM)
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1. Knowledge
2. Confidence
3. Luck
4. 'Be yourself'

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how to stop the dupes?

excellent words of wisdom by the hawk, by the way.

sad fact still remains that many people are willing to digest this.

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post Apr 8 2009, 11:24 AM

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Yep!

agreed with most of what he said, the core of all these CC threads lie in his words.

But as people say, truth hurts... it's difficult for the human eyes to absorb, making it hard to come to senses with our brain. smile.gif

+1 Hawk
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post Apr 8 2009, 11:42 AM

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Hawkie! *hugs!* +100!!! Good one. Short and sweet and plus no stereotyping and "know-it-all" stance. Support! Long live hawks! thumbup.gif
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post Apr 8 2009, 11:56 AM

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Thanks guys, I just hope I managed to enlighten a few people smile.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 8 2009, 11:56 AM)
Thanks guys, I just hope I managed to enlighten a few people smile.gif
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i think this would be a quick mandarin summary of your words

你会选人, 人家也会选你



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post Apr 8 2009, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Apr 8 2009, 11:58 AM)
i think this would be a quick mandarin summary of your words

你会选人, 人家也会选你
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ah sorry. doh.gif:

the words

你会选人, 人家也会选你

kinda loosely translate into

you know how to choose people, people also know how to choose you
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Apr 8 2009, 12:03 PM)
ah sorry. doh.gif:

the words

你会选人, 人家也会选你

kinda loosely translate into

you know how to choose people, people also know how to choose you
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Actually what I'm getting at is kind of the other way around... people can choose you, but you also can choose people laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Malaysiancasanova @ Apr 8 2009, 05:15 AM)
Dun whine about not getting any gals in your life bro............u c if wan a gal.......u gota walk the walk .........choose your galfren properly.....i wan ask u sumtin......if a guy doesnt know how to dress well.........we teach him ryte....or he less experience......in talking to a gal...he needs advice ryte.......so my point is we help each another...by sharing our experiences.......and 1st of all y r u in cupid corner........if ur talking about standards......u r better of ......lecturing ppl in college about standards ryte........haha...talking about standards konon......such a retard haaha summore writing in cupid corner hahah
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u make me realise one thing..i am chasin the wrong roads..thx man...
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post Apr 8 2009, 02:16 PM

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hmm... i somehow didn't understand 1 thing leh bro... mean that we should choose 1 that we need based on their internal beauty?
Oh, and just to be ourself? no nid change to attract other girl? is it like dis?

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If changing yourself just to get the attention, I disagree.

If changing yourself into a better person, then yes.

But as TS said, if you yourself has got no life to lead on, how is it possible for you to venture in other people's life? they will find it boring after sometime.

self-confidence play a big role here, which is smth i seriously am lacking... (after a big turn-down in past relationship tsk tsk)
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QUOTE(kirashin @ Apr 8 2009, 02:10 PM)
u make me realise one thing..i am chasin the wrong roads..thx man...
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QUOTE(se_eugene @ Apr 8 2009, 02:16 PM)
hmm... i somehow didn't understand 1 thing leh bro... mean that we should choose 1 that we need based on their internal beauty?
Oh, and just to be ourself? no nid change to attract other girl? is it like dis?
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You choose what you need based on what you need. Everyone has different needs, find out what yours is. Then be yourself. You will undoubtedly change a bit when you are chasing a girl, just make sure you don't sacrifice your standards when you do it.
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like... "I like you bald more than with the hair,eugene"

Tmr straightaway botak chai XD


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QUOTE(Krovaxq @ Apr 8 2009, 02:25 PM)
like... "I like you bald more than with the hair,eugene"

Tmr straightaway botak chai XD
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laugh.gif That's bad if you don't like to be botak laugh.gif
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Nicely written bro!
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 8 2009, 02:29 PM)
laugh.gif That's bad if you don't like to be botak laugh.gif
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haha,ofc. Jz givin a scenario of 'how do u change is up to ur standard,n0t others'. Write sum0re bro,hw long oso i read.cheers
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QUOTE(Krovaxq @ Apr 8 2009, 02:54 PM)
haha,ofc. Jz givin a scenario of 'how do u change is up to ur standard,n0t others'. Write sum0re bro,hw long oso i read.cheers
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When I feel like it la... only reason I wrote this is because I cannot tahan all those topics being created sweat.gif
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Salute to the Hawk!

its better then any thread i read so far about their philosophy on love
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haha botak lol.... err, wad do u all mean by leading a life now? err, i got my life... college student, study... does it consider as life? cos beside studying, i gt ntg to do dy... i think not so called life... hehe
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QUOTE(se_eugene @ Apr 8 2009, 05:29 PM)
haha botak lol.... err, wad do u all mean by leading a life now? err, i got my life... college student, study... does it consider as life? cos beside studying, i gt ntg to do dy... i think not so called life... hehe
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i guess ur current life is "student" which, u have to, concentrate on ur studies, but not to become a bookworm and neglect ur social life i.e. hanging out with friends (in a good way if u know what i mean). I would say u need a balanced life basically, knowing where u r now, n where u wanna be in da future. Set a target or a goal for urself so that no matter what u do, u know that somehow u gotta achieve ur goal in life. And, make sure that target is really what u want, hence u won't easily give up. But be prepared that ur target / goal might change down da road as u walked on.

be urself, stand firm on ur own ground. don't act towards peer pressure as like what Hawk said, it is somehow a "kiasu" act.

I hope that i'm not wrong sweat.gif sweat.gif
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I'm a university Student~! And my goal? To create a name to remember for future generation!! Like Alexander the Great! Desu~ biggrin.gif
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i am who i am..
accept me for who i am or forget it...biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
i too am a college student wat..
for nw studyin is more important for me.. tongue.gif
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It would be great if hawk could write more.

It's good.Short,humble without all the arrogance,no stereotyping,pack with information and straight to the point.Even comes with a tl;dr version. biggrin.gif

Enough of those so called casanova or shit.We need people who knows what are they writing.

I read both versions,by the way.RWI version is better.
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 8 2009, 05:08 AM)
So set some standards, get some self-worth, get a life, and then you'll be able to get someone.
Well said. thumbup.gif


How easy it is to get self-worth and how easy it is to 'get a life' depends alot on a whole range of factors...


Good nutrition. Enough sleep. A solid social life follows.
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QUOTE(se_eugene @ Apr 8 2009, 05:29 PM)
haha botak lol.... err, wad do u all mean by leading a life now? err, i got my life... college student, study... does it consider as life? cos beside studying, i gt ntg to do dy... i think not so called life... hehe
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Why are you studying? Is the subject you're studying something you want to do in the future? Your studies are a part of your life, it SHOULD lead to something. After your studies, then what? Find a job? What kind of job? Get job adi, then what? You need to have some sort of life plan or guideline.

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I'm a university Student~! And my goal? To create a name to remember for future generation!! Like Alexander the Great! Desu~  biggrin.gif
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You want to conquer 1/2 of Asia? G`luck tongue.gif

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Apr 8 2009, 07:05 PM)
It would be great if hawk could write more.

It's good.Short,humble without all the arrogance,no stereotyping,pack with information and straight to the point.Even comes with a tl;dr version. biggrin.gif

Enough of those so called casanova or shit.We need people who knows what are they writing.

I read both versions,by the way.RWI version is better.
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What more do you want? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 8 2009, 08:36 PM)
What more do you want? unsure.gif
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Anything that might be useful. tongue.gif

If you have nothing else to write,it's alright. icon_rolleyes.gif
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good one.... some insporation here
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 8 2009, 01:56 AM)
When I feel like it la... only reason I wrote this is because I cannot tahan all those topics being created sweat.gif
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and that's why I'm so relieved. good job dude ... and don't say you didn't get a hug from me. btw, I won't be in KL any time soon sad.gif
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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Apr 8 2009, 11:38 PM)
and that's why I'm so relieved. good job dude ... and don't say you didn't get a hug from me. btw, I won't be in KL any time soon sad.gif
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Thanks smile.gif
Darn, well just give a heads up when you're coming back smile.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 8 2009, 08:36 PM)
You want to conquer 1/2 of Asia? G`luck tongue.gif

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No just want my name to be in history, awesome thread by the way! thumbup.gif

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Where is ezralimm now? lol
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No just want my name to be in history, awesome thread by the way!  thumbup.gif
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So all SilverHawk is trying to sum up here is this:

BELIEVE IN YOURSELF.

YOU.

ARE.

WORTH.

MUCH.

MORE.

THAN.

YOU.

THINK.




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be.teh.awesome.ftw!
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he posted here already smile.gif
There are other ways to get your name in history tongue.gif
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My rules in LOVE!!!!

1) Never say you love someone if there's no intention to marry him
2) Be sincere. Girls love men who're sincere
3) Be kind, be gentle, love unconditionally
4) Be yourself when you love someone.
5) Never to fall in love, but to grow in love.

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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Apr 9 2009, 01:19 PM)
My rules in LOVE!!!!

1) Never say you love someone if there's no intention to marry him
2) Be sincere. Girls love men who're sincere
3) Be kind, be gentle, love unconditionally
4) Be yourself when you love someone.
5) Never to fall in love, but to grow in love.

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1. check
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3. check
4. check
5. check

can I wub you long time now? wub.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 9 2009, 01:23 PM)
1. check
2. check
3. check
4. check
5. check

can I wub you long time now? wub.gif
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Allow my love to spread and engulf you
Seize me, take me, make me your darling
For my Sanctuary of Paradise awaits you

Forever...pink...and blossoming...my body is yours.... wub.gif

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Where is ezralimm now? lol
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Cum my love, cum to my arms, my darling
Allow my love to spread and engulf you
Seize me, take me, make me your darling
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Forever...pink...and blossoming...my body is yours....  wub.gif
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Apr 10 2009, 07:44 AM)
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Happy4ever is a tranny lar!!!
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Apr 10 2009, 08:50 AM)
Happy4ever is a tranny lar!!!
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Apr 10 2009, 08:50 AM)
Happy4ever is a tranny lar!!!
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Sez Who???

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Apr 10 2009, 09:53 AM)
tranny also can target people one mah, right?  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Apr 10 2009, 09:53 AM)
Sez Who???

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hawky, open a topic of "how to get the boy you want" tsk* brows.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(PIOPIO @ Apr 11 2009, 12:56 PM)
hawky, open a topic of "how to get the boy you want" tsk* brows.gif drool.gif
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That's........gonna unleash the gayness in hawkie..=.=
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QUOTE(PIOPIO @ Apr 11 2009, 12:56 PM)
hawky, open a topic of "how to get the boy you want" tsk* brows.gif drool.gif
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That's........gonna unleash the gayness in hawkie..=.=
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oh NUUUUUUUUUUUUUU sad.gif

what about you open it? tsk* brows.gif

QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 11 2009, 03:57 PM)
Its really the same thing tongue.gif
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NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU sad.gif it's not the same~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

sometimes hor~ you just don't reach the requirement of the guy you really like?

perhaps the personality or the characters? even you qualify those guy's requirements?

why a?

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QUOTE(PIOPIO @ Apr 11 2009, 04:05 PM)
NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU sad.gif it's not the same~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

sometimes hor~ you just don't reach the requirement of the guy you really like?

perhaps the personality or the characters? even you qualify those guy's requirements?

why a?

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Happens for guys also, they don't meet the requirement of the person meets their requirement.

The beauty is when 2 people find out that they meet each others requirements smile.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 11 2009, 04:10 PM)
The beauty is when 2 people find out that they meet each others requirements smile.gif
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haha, its been a while since I last posted in cupid.
Now u have become the GURU.

Allow me to spam a paragraph here:
Most of the gals with new bf like to say:"At first, I don't think he meets my requirement, but when I know him more and more, he is what I want".
So, never ask the girl what is her requirement.
Same goes to gal, never ask a guy what is his requirement.

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haha, its been a while since I last posted in cupid.
Now u have become the GURU.

Allow me to spam a paragraph here:
Most of the gals with new bf like to say:"At first, I don't think he meets my requirement, but when I know him more and more, he is what I want".
So, never ask the girl what is her requirement.
Same goes to gal, never ask a guy what is his requirement.
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I reject the GURU status dry.gif
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happy4ever wan to grow love, can i ask where to buy love seeds? tongue.gif
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Its store deep within the inner crotches of silverhawk. He can grow into any girl you want him to love. blush.gif
Its growin now in my tummy. Very soon we will have little hawkies.. hehehhe wub.gif
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What IF I have lots of money?
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Its store deep within the inner crotches of silverhawk. He can grow into any girl you want him to love.  blush.gif
Its growin now in my tummy. Very soon we will have little hawkies.. hehehhe  wub.gif
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Yo mah brother from another mother.

Your first post only described (although pretty well) how to meet expectations, and setting standards.

Your description on the important criteria of Self Confidence was a lil vague.

and perhaps u shud go into other characteristics required to start courtship, to make the thread fit the title and make it truly "pin" quality smile.gif
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QUOTE(Baronic @ Apr 12 2009, 09:40 AM)
Yo mah brother from another mother.

Your first post only described (although pretty well) how to meet expectations, and setting standards.

Your description on the important criteria of Self Confidence was a lil vague.

and perhaps u shud go into other characteristics required to start courtship, to make the thread fit the title and make it truly "pin" quality smile.gif
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nah, I just want people to develop an inner self, anything else is theirs from there on. Its not my place to tell them what characteristics are required to start courtship because that would depend A LOT on the type of people they want to court in the first place.
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 12 2009, 12:30 PM)
nah, I just want people to develop an inner self, anything else is theirs from there on. Its not my place to tell them what characteristics are required to start courtship because that would depend A LOT on the type of people they want to court in the first place.
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true enough lol. oh hey maybe we shud start a Heralds of Chivalry thread, since some people say chivalry is dead
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true enough lol. oh hey maybe we shud start a Heralds of Chivalry thread, since some people say chivalry is dead
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Go ahead, I'll sokong thumbup.gif
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the quality of threads in CC has dropped like crazy....look at the number of retarded threads around. time to do something serious here. will do it later during my free time
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QUOTE(Baronic @ Apr 12 2009, 02:15 PM)
the quality of threads in CC has dropped like crazy....look at the number of retarded threads around. time to do something serious here. will do it later during my free time
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QUOTE(Baronic @ Apr 12 2009, 02:15 PM)
the quality of threads in CC has dropped like crazy....look at the number of retarded threads around. time to do something serious here. will do it later during my free time
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 12 2009, 02:26 PM)
So glad I'm not a mod biggrin.gif
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I'm gonna gather all the whiners in CC and start a massive opening of retarded threads!!!

That'll keep Baronic busy.

Baronic: "Arggghhhh! You mothaf*rk*ng retarded whiners!!! Stop whining or I'll delete your threads!!!! Delete, delete, delete!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 11 2009, 04:10 PM)
Happens for guys also, they don't meet the requirement of the person meets their requirement.

The beauty is when 2 people find out that they meet each others requirements smile.gif
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but somehow i find that some of the girls, they wouldn't mind to get boys who don't reach their standard~ and some boys they don't mind to get girls who don't reach their standard, as long as the chemistry works well in their relationship~

so if you are talking about reaching the requirement, sometimes that's not really the matter, the matter is whether the chemistry effect happens in both sides.
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chemistry can only get u so far. if you're incompatible, you're incompatible. your patience in giving in to the incompatibility can only last so long. however, it is possible to compromise instead of giving in and reaching some sort of middle ground.

but this can only be done if you at least have a good foundation, chemistry aside
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QUOTE(PIOPIO @ Apr 12 2009, 04:39 PM)
but somehow i find that some of the girls, they wouldn't mind to get boys who don't reach their standard~ and some boys they don't mind to get girls who don't reach their standard, as long as the chemistry works well in their relationship~

so if you are talking about reaching the requirement, sometimes that's not really the matter, the matter is whether the chemistry effect happens in both sides.
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If they don't mind, that means they've reached each others standards smile.gif The standards I speak of here are the requirements in a relationship, no relationship can last if the requirements are not met. Anything else is a bonus.
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 12 2009, 04:42 PM)
If they don't mind, that means they've reached each others standards smile.gif The standards I speak of here are the requirements in a relationship, no relationship can last if the requirements are not met. Anything else is a bonus.
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i thought that you were talking about "how to get the girl you want" XD laugh.gif

like, before entering into a relationship, how you get(attract) the girl you want~ laugh.gif
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QUOTE(PIOPIO @ Apr 12 2009, 04:44 PM)
i thought that you were talking about "how to get the girl you want" XD laugh.gif

like, before entering into a relationship, how you get(attract) the girl you want~ laugh.gif
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You attract a person by being yourself, and you can only be yourself if you know what you want/need smile.gif
Whether it works out is a different story, but as long as the person holds on to what he is, he'll eventually get someone he wants smile.gif

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QUOTE(Baronic @ Apr 12 2009, 04:42 PM)
chemistry can only get u so far. if you're incompatible, you're incompatible. your patience in giving in to the incompatibility can only last so long. however, it is possible to compromise instead of giving in and reaching some sort of middle ground.

but this can only be done if you at least have a good foundation, chemistry aside
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yea true~

but still got different case one~ tsk* tongue.gif


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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 12 2009, 04:46 PM)
You attract a person by being yourself, and you can only be yourself if you know what you want/need smile.gif
Whether it works out is a different story, but as long as the person holds on to what he is, he'll eventually get someone he wants smile.gif
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really? sad.gif why i don't get what i want? @_@

like i know what the requirements are... but still... @_@'''


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QUOTE(PIOPIO @ Apr 12 2009, 04:46 PM)
really? sad.gif why i don't get what i want? @_@
like i know what the requirements are... but still... @_@'''
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maybe you're not certain with what exactly you want & need?
If you know what your requirements are, and you've met the person who fits that requirements and he likes you too, then it shouldn't be a problem?
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 12 2009, 04:58 PM)
maybe you're not certain with what exactly you want & need?
If you know what your requirements are, and you've met the person who fits that requirements and he likes you too, then it shouldn't be a problem?
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i know what my requirements are, and met the person already~ but hor, he doesn't like me, i think? sad.gif don't know why suddenly didn't want to choi me jek~

so yea~ that's weird~

actually i should say, it really depends on the case~ sad.gif
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QUOTE(PIOPIO @ Apr 12 2009, 05:00 PM)
i know what my requirements are, and met the person already~ but hor, he doesn't like me, i think? sad.gif don't know why suddenly didn't want to choi me jek~

so yea~ that's weird~

actually i should say, it really depends on the case~  sad.gif
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well that means he met your requirements but you didn't meet his. So you have to just keep looking for someone who meets your requirement and you meet his. What I'm writing about isn't about getting someone you "think" you want. Its about getting someone you will be happy with the rest of your life. People will often fail a few times before meeting such a person, and some may not even appreciate such a person when they do appear in their lives because they're focused on the wrong things.
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 12 2009, 05:03 PM)
well that means he met your requirements but you didn't meet his. So you have to just keep looking for someone who meets your requirement and you meet his. What I'm writing about isn't about getting someone you "think" you want. Its about getting someone you will be happy with the rest of your life. People will often fail a few times before meeting such a person, and some may not even appreciate such a person when they do appear in their lives because they're focused on the wrong things.
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XD okie, i know what you are talking about here now~

okie~ mislead by the title~ -.-
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y dont have thread how to get the guy i like??
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y dont have thread how to get the guy i like??
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ask piopio to write for you
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 12 2009, 11:12 PM)
cause I'm not a girl tongue.gif
ask piopio to write for you
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QUOTE(kikipi @ Apr 12 2009, 11:31 PM)
hawkie please write one for girls cry.gif
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QUOTE(kikipi @ Apr 12 2009, 11:31 PM)
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yes hawky~ please write one for my honey~ blush.gif
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yes hawky~ please write one for my honey~  blush.gif
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but I'm not a girl wor, how to help unsure.gif
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QUOTE(PIOPIO @ Apr 12 2009, 11:37 PM)
yes hawky~ please write one for my honey~  blush.gif
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write one for me on how to get this sweetie blush.gif
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QUOTE(kikipi @ Apr 12 2009, 11:38 PM)
write one for me on how to get this sweetie  blush.gif
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who's your sweetie? sad.gif

*looking around~*
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QUOTE(PIOPIO @ Apr 12 2009, 11:39 PM)
who's your sweetie? sad.gif

*looking around~*
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yew blush.gif
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hehez, the title too fake de.

I know if you blink to that girl u interested, see she will smile back onot. If she look away, mean u have no chance!

I had done this b4, quite success.
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write one for me on how to get this sweetie  blush.gif
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cannot...
because I want that sweetie blush.gif
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QUOTE(kikipi @ Apr 12 2009, 11:40 PM)
yew  blush.gif
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oh nuuu blush.gif

i feel the passion of your lup~ wub.gif

lup you gao gao~ blush.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 12 2009, 11:41 PM)
cannot...
because I want that sweetie blush.gif
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QUOTE(PIOPIO @ Apr 12 2009, 11:43 PM)
oh nuuu blush.gif

i feel the passion of your lup~ wub.gif

lup you gao gao~  blush.gif
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i lub u too... can u please ask hawkie don't disturb us ? blush.gif
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QUOTE(kikipi @ Apr 12 2009, 11:48 PM)
she's mine  biggrin.gif
i lub u too... can u please ask hawkie don't disturb us ?  blush.gif
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sure~ blush.gif


*shut up hawky* dry.gif


*have time for kiki~*

*waiting her on bed* blush.gif


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QUOTE(PIOPIO @ Apr 12 2009, 11:50 PM)
sure~ blush.gif
*shut up hawky* dry.gif
*have time for kiki~*

*waiting her on bed* blush.gif
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lets go sleep together babe <3
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let's say that you met someone that fits your standard, she's what you need/want, but sadly you're not her standard, so basically you try to improve yourself to fit her standard, but how do you know what are the girl's standard, and how different are her current preception of your standard compare to the standard she wants? it's not like you could ask her directly, you would properly get a "i dunno" for an answer

it's really easy for you to just say, "oh you guys dont meet each others standards, go find another one that do", but what lies beside this standards? what makes someone qualify as your standard, do you know that this standard actually lie to you? even the slightest things like the way you make them laugh, the way you speak, the way you express words in manner that could be implify as attractive to the opposite sex could changes everything..

i think most ppl know what they want/need, what their presumed standard is , but what people dont know, is how to evaluate them..

People tend to judge alot, even if 2 person are meant for each other , they share the same interest, have same standard, what/need bla bla, but they met each other at the wrong time, wrong situation, wrong manner, in affect everything..

like a i said ppl tend to judge alot, and end up make the wrong evaluation of their opposite, with wrong judgment comes wrong relationship.. rclxub.gif



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QUOTE(FeeD @ Apr 13 2009, 12:31 AM)
let's say that you met someone that fits your standard, she's what you need/want, but sadly you're not her standard,  so basically you try to improve yourself to fit her standard, but how do you know what are the girl's standard, and how different are her current preception of your standard compare to the standard she wants? it's not like you could ask her directly, you would properly get a "i dunno" for an answer
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No you don't try to fit her standard mate. It's all relative. Sometimes things don't work out the way we want. It's nothing to do with standards but more with chemistry and circumstance.
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QUOTE(FeeD @ Apr 13 2009, 12:31 AM)
let's say that you met someone that fits your standard, she's what you need/want, but sadly you're not her standard,  so basically you try to improve yourself to fit her standard, but how do you know what are the girl's standard, and how different are her current preception of your standard compare to the standard she wants? it's not like you could ask her directly, you would properly get a "i dunno" for an answer

it's really easy for you to just say, "oh you guys dont meet each others standards, go find another one that do", but what lies beside this standards? what makes someone qualify as your standard, do you know that this standard actually lie to you? even the slightest things like the way you make them laugh, the way you speak, the way you express words in manner that could be implify as attractive to the opposite sex could changes everything..

i think most ppl know what they want/need, what their presumed standard is , but what people dont know, is how to evaluate them..

People tend to judge alot, even if 2 person are meant for each other , they share the same interest, have same standard, what/need bla bla, but they met each other at the wrong time, wrong situation, wrong manner, in affect everything..

like a i said ppl tend to judge alot, and end up make the wrong evaluation of their opposite, with wrong judgment comes wrong relationship..  rclxub.gif
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You don't change to fit her standard, but improving yourself isn't a bad thing. For instance, if you're not well dressed but she likes well dressed people, then changing yourself to dress better is not a bad thing. If on the other hand you're a sociable person and because of her insecurities you change to become less sociable and lose yourself, then its a bad thing. Not all change is good, and not all change is bad.

The thing is, you don't have to know her standard. Knowing her standard/requirements is not important. You just be who you are and who you want to be. If you fit someone's standard, they'll be attracted to you automatically. Then things just proceed from there on.
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it's not about fitting her standard more about worring whether she knew what you really is..and whether you know she really is, do you know that she fits your standard? do she knows that you fit her standard? it's a matter of evaluating a person, correctly

it's really easy to just say, "oh you guys dont meet each others standards, go find another one that do", but what lies beside this standards? what makes someone qualify as your standard, do you know that this standard actually lie to you? even the slightest things like the way you make them laugh, the way you speak, the way you express words in manner that could be implify as attractive to the opposite sex could changes everything..

i think most ppl know what they want/need, but what they know is actually presumed standard, what people dont know, is how to patiently evaluate them..this problem arise not just in relationship but in friendship as well, because sometime you believe too much in what you believe in, which give you false information, when this happens, people cant see the real you even if you are being youselve

People tend to judge alot, even if 2 person are meant for each other , they share the same interest, have same standard, what/need bla bla, but they met each other at the wrong time, wrong situation, wrong manner, it affect everything..

like a i said ppl tend to judge alot, and end up make the wrong evaluation of their opposite, with wrong judgment

that why nowaday there's alot of " oh i met the match of my life, i can assure that we are meant to be together bla bla" after few month , " oh i realize we are not suited for each other" rclxub.gif

basically what i am trying to say is...yes i agree with what silverhawk said, it's true, but that's just the basic..there's still deeper things , i know that the princple is to be what you are, but there's still a lot of vague situation behind this, what if both of you seldom meet, what if the yourself that she knew, is not actually the real yourself, or maybe just a part

sometimes people dont even know what they want, they dont even know that the person standing right next to them is actually, best suited for them....i am actually wanting to read something like that..ahahah

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Its the basic, but its the foundation. You have to stop worrying so much about what the other person thinks of you. If they are perceiving you wrongly, then perhaps it is because you are not expressing yourself properly.

You may know what I'm talking about, but you do not understand it. Look at the questions you're asking and how you keep doubting yourself. There's no confidence and self-esteem.
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it's not worrying, i am not doubting myselves, i am a positive person, but i think alot, i think of all the the probablity, what's the best situation that arise, what's the worse situation that could arise, what went wrong, what's the worse things that could happen to me, what's the reason, when there's a reason, there has to be a cure,when there's a cure , then there should be action taken , if another failure occure then what's the reason of the failure, what went wrong, what can be done to fix the wrong bla bla..

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haha maybe..but have you ever thought about..

what if you smile that day? could that bright shiny teeth of yours possibily make the impression to her that you did not make that day?

what if you didnt came that day? you guys could still be happily ever after celebrating your 2nd aniversary

if i didnt act as a lamer since few month ago, she would have liked me?

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i'm not sure i could i express myself correctly..lol..cause i am quite a multiple personality person..=(

i am being myself most of the time, but the question is, which myselve should i be to which person? complicated aight?

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QUOTE(FeeD @ Apr 13 2009, 01:32 AM)
i'm not sure i could i express myself correctly..lol..cause i am quite a multiple personality person..=(

i am being myself most of the time, but the question is, which myselve should i be to which person? complicated aight?
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You're just twisting yourself and try to depend on others perception and their liking to determine which personality fits best? Not that i doubt such possibilities exist in a person, but how's that going to help you get a relationship at the first place? If you think that making yourself complicated makes you a better person, then get ready to be attracted by other complicated person then or somebody who understood your complication well enough. But the question remains whether such complications exist in you are able to bring you further down the road in a relationship. Are you capable enough to maintain a relationship with your existing complicated traits?

There is a reason why the thread here is all about fundamentals. The technical stuffs are for you to discovers yourself through your own mind power such as creativity, acknowledgment, perseverance and strong will for example. Spoon fed is not going to bring you anywhere. You can't ask Silverhawk to quantify or qualify the necessary traits to attract somebody. Its too advance and that will require years of works not to mention it isn't proven no matter how many surveys are conducted. So many factors are contributed to a single idea which is called attraction. And attraction itself isn't a choice whether you like it or not. (yes yes silverhawk, i know you're trying to tell me where i stole the idea from laugh.gif)

If you need a rough idea on those details, might as well go read books on relationship. That will give you some general traits and ideas and perhaps more detailed ones. You can't expect one to just wrote a technical point of views and quantify/qualify which one suits which ones. I bet even the Harvard grads can't guarantee that since they themselves could be having a hard time within relationships among friends and couples.

Silverhawk's idea is simple and profound enough. Once you know where to start fundamentally, construct your own foundation or standards and from there start building into a person you want to build all these while using your own mind or brain. Sooner later, you will subconsciously or consciously attract somebody that fits yours or yours to hers. Either you'll be the magnet or the one to be magnetize by the other. Till then, that's when you know the importance of chemistry.
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 13 2009, 10:06 AM)
You're just twisting yourself and try to depend on others perception and their liking to determine which personality fits best? Not that i doubt such possibilities exist in a person, but how's that going to help you get a relationship at the first place? If you think that making yourself complicated makes you a better person, then get ready to be attracted by other complicated person then or somebody who understood your complication well enough. But the question remains whether such complications exist in you are able to bring you further down the road in a relationship. Are you capable enough to maintain a relationship with your existing complicated traits?

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this depend how you view of other human surrounding you, if you have a perception of just being yourself, you be yourself, there as to be a minority if not majority that could not comprehend with your personality, therefore you just keep being youself, you dont care whether others hate you, you dont care how many hater there is surrounding, you just keep presuasing your standard, then fine, i have nothing to say..

but i have a different point of view, maybe your right..i do the opposite, when i am talking to a particular friend, i try to figure what that person want in a friend, i try to to remove few of my personality , that person thought it's a piss off , that way i wont lose myself but yet keep others happy, but the thing about my personality is that, it's hard to determine what others wants, even if i knew i could have just known a fraction, i could have use the less complicated way which is just being myself....but...lol....
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QUOTE(FeeD @ Apr 13 2009, 10:54 AM)
this depend how you view of other human surrounding you, if you have a perception of just being yourself, you be yourself, there as to be a minority if not majority that could not comprehend with your personality, therefore you just keep being youself, you dont care whether others hate you, you dont care how many hater there is surrounding, you just keep presuasing your standard, then fine, i have nothing to say..


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but i have a different point of view, maybe your right..i do the opposite, when i am talking to a particular friend,  i try to figure what that person want in a friend, i try to to remove few of my personality , that person thought it's a piss off , that way i wont lose myself but yet keep others happy,


How do you figure it out and exactly how do you try to 'remove' your personalities? Or in other words, you create an illusionary standard to suits others? Unless you have the spiritual capacity and the mental strength to do that without regrets, then i should be silent from here then.

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but the thing about my personality is that, it's hard to determine what others wants, even if i knew i could have just known a fraction, i could have use the less complicated way which is just being myself....but...lol....


Hopefully you will understand that people will never understand each other as a whole. There's a reason why secrecy is important as well. Just like you said, a fraction, which i believe is adequate enough. Believe me, even your parents will never understand you as a whole person. A singular trait is often easy to attract other singular traits. For example, loyal does attracts commitment. But put in loyal and possessiveness and mix it together, it could work as a double edge sword. And the problem is, we humans are not identified by singular traits but the mix of them. This is where things get complicated and most of the time people keep them discreet for others to know. Trying to figure it out, is just a waste of time unless you're very keen in understanding that person and normally we do that when we want to venture in a romantic relationship or finding a long term partner. Even by doing that, we tend to make mistakes.

We are all selfish in nature. We want the best for ourselves hence loving yourself or be yourself works the best to deal with pain and growth in the coming future. Only by doing that you have enough capacity to care for others and share what you have in yourself to others. If you keep trying to make others happy, how long are you going to stand? We're not talking about a few days. We're talking about the coming years as you age and mature. Might as well deal with your imperfections and others imperfection. And if others want to see or perceive you the way they want to perceive, there's nothing you can do unless you change your own self rather than forcing them to believe.
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To me, words is just words, it can't apply / have the same outcome for all people. What might seems to work for some, might not work for others and vice versa. But that doesn't mean that we dont have to try, just know our boundaries, and be realistic about it. It's much healthier than drowning in your fantasies.
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 13 2009, 11:22 AM)
Hopefully you will understand that people will never understand each other as a whole. There's a reason why secrecy is important as well. Just like you said, a fraction, which i believe is adequate enough. Believe me, even your parents will never understand you as a whole person. A singular trait is often easy to attract other singular traits. For example, loyal does attracts commitment. But put in loyal and possessiveness and mix it together, it could work as a double edge sword. And the problem is, we humans are not identified by singular traits but the mix of them. This is where things get complicated and most of the time people keep them discreet for others to know. Trying to figure it out, is just a waste of time unless you're very keen in understanding that person and normally we do that when we want to venture in a romantic relationship or finding a long term partner. Even by doing that, we tend to make mistakes. 

We are all selfish in nature. We want the best for ourselves hence loving yourself or be yourself works the best to deal with pain and growth in the coming future. Only by doing that you have enough capacity to care for others and share what you have in yourself to others. If you keep trying to make others happy, how long are you going to stand? We're not talking about a few days. We're talking about the coming years as you age and mature. Might as well deal with your imperfections and others imperfection. And if others want to see or perceive you the way they want to perceive, there's nothing you can do unless you change your own self rather than forcing them to believe.
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Haha you are actually telling me what i wanted to say all this while. i know that humans will never understand each other, sometimes when you let people understand you more, they will use your weakness againts you, that's what my previous previous post was trying to say, people often put wrong judgement on others, because like you said, we humans are make out of alot of things mix up together into one being, we might act possessively over one person but not over the other, we might be doing things others cant comprehend , we might do things other thought as negative but it's the opposite for us. even if i put myselves as an example, people pass judgement on my personality base on the thread on open but they will never understand things beyong LYN, i like the internet i like the forum, because i let's me savour the feeling of making funs of others, making fun of myselves, making others hate me, which make me have a good laugh, this kinda of feeling could not possibily be achieve in real life .

By being yourselve and have the will to make other happy, you are actually improving your imperfections better, but you have to understand between the balance of not changing yourselve for the sake of other, you have to have your own stand but also keep in mind of your personality that are not going well with others

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QUOTE(FeeD @ Apr 13 2009, 02:37 PM)
By being yourselves and have the will to make other happy, you are actually improving your imperfections better, but you have to understand between the balance of not changing yourselve for the sake of other, you have to have your own stand but also keep in mind of your personality that are not going well with others
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Then since this post of yours describe your willingness to be a whole person or happier, why bother asking here which personality to choose to suit others' standards or perception at your previous post?
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I'm just wondering, meeting to someone standard's so just we could be given higher chances to fit into their life/acceptance? At what costs? Losing our true self and identity? Let say he/she's a hyper social person/meterialistic while we are plain simple in every aspect. It doesn't feel right to change ourselves so we could fit in their lifestyle. Sounds like we ought turn to hypocrits by changing ourselves / styles/ whatever just to fit someone else's perception/approval.

That's not me. If people can't accept me for being the way I am, then so be it..
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QUOTE(FeeD @ Apr 13 2009, 12:56 AM)

sometimes people dont even know what they want, they dont even know that the person standing right next to them is actually, best suited for them....i am actually wanting to read something like that..ahahah
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i wanted to read, something like this..lol
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if there are standards, then it's natural for everyone to aim higher, prolly the best, then here comes the problem, only a few get the best, so the rest need to adjust their standard again ? lol

why not we just be with the person that can make us happy(chemistry) ? make some mistakes, i'm sure we learn much faster this way =P rather to choose a standard and never got into a relationship cause their standard are not meet lulz

human improve by making mistakes not by a good decission, cheers
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QUOTE(nickisthemost @ Apr 14 2009, 10:02 AM)
why not we just be with the person that can make us happy(chemistry) ? make some mistakes, i'm sure we learn much faster this way =P rather to choose a standard and never got into a relationship cause their standard are not meet lulz
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Why do you people keep thinking standards are like something high? If you want to choose someone that makes you happy because there's the right chemistry. THAT IS YOUR STANDARD.

Faham tak?
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 14 2009, 11:06 AM)
Why do you people keep thinking standards are like something high? If you want to choose someone that makes you happy because there's the right chemistry. THAT IS YOUR STANDARD.

Faham tak?
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then people that have gf cause people around them have one is a standard too right lulz ?

maaf bukan saya tak faham, cuma have nak mendapat lebih kefahaman =P
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QUOTE(nickisthemost @ Apr 14 2009, 11:22 AM)
then people that have gf cause people around them have one is a standard too right lulz ?

maaf bukan saya tak faham, cuma have nak mendapat lebih kefahaman =P
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Normally no, it just means they're following what others want. The whole point of this topic is to make you think and reflect upon yourself. What is it you truly want in a partner and how it will fit into your life.
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There are many topics here of guys whining about being rejected(no matter the reason) and then there are topics where people attempt to teach a guy how to be attractive to women. Despite how these 2 types seem different, they both share a fundamental problem. What is that problem? well let me share it with you...

They have no standards of their own

What does this mean? Well, I'll explain. To reach the widest audience possible, I'll prepare a wall of text assault and a tl;dr version tongue.gif Enjoy smile.gif

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Wall of text Assault (I'm a RWIer... you've been warned tongue.gif)
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Problem with that... people get too caught onto the techniques and totally miss the essence
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You choose what you need based on what you need. Everyone has different needs, find out what yours is. Then be yourself. You will undoubtedly change a bit when you are chasing a girl, just make sure you don't sacrifice your standards when you do it.
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Why are you studying? Is the subject you're studying something you want to do in the future? Your studies are a part of your life, it SHOULD lead to something. After your studies, then what? Find a job? What kind of job? Get job adi, then what? You need to have some sort of life plan or guideline.
You want to conquer 1/2 of Asia? G`luck tongue.gif
What more do you want? unsure.gif
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yay...hawkie finally posted his secret ingredient. biggrin.gif

Self worth..but that's what I said to my reply on Malaysian Casanova's post where I stated that self value(just another wording) is most important.

and hawkie's post gets pinned..

Lol kidding,props to you buddy. Yes,self worth is the cornerstone of success no matter which area of your life be it passions,relationships,health or wealth.


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Just buy this and read it. Simple

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actually with all due respect.

No.

This book just shifts the paradigm set and makes you social robots with a set of rules and do's and don't which has a high probability of success in one night stands but basically zero chance of survival in a relationship. I can back up this statement by just asking one to take a glance at the lives of style,mystery,etc who have had tons of sex but cant hold a relationship if their life depended on it.

A really good book that also gets down to the "fundamental point" as Silverhawk puts it is Carlox Xuma's Secrets of the Alpha Male where he spends 60 percent of his book discussing self worth/value and how to impose caliber and stature upon yourself.

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actually with all due respect.

No.

This book just shifts the paradigm set and makes you social robots with a set of rules and do's and don't which has a high probability of success in one night stands but basically zero chance of survival in a relationship. I can back up this statement by just asking one to take a glance at the lives of style,mystery,etc who have had tons of sex but cant hold a relationship if their life depended on it.

A really good book that also gets down to the "fundamental point" as Silverhawk puts it is Carlox Xuma's Secrets of the Alpha Male where he spends 60 percent of his book discussing self worth/value and how to impose caliber and stature upon yourself.
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LMAO! You try to follow that book "the game" la, see if you get lots of success one night stands here in Malaysia.  brows.gif
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 15 2009, 02:25 PM)
Trust me. Carlos Xuma's relationship book pawns Neil Strauss 'The Game' big time.
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Where can I get a copy? blush.gif
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Where can I get a copy?  blush.gif
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You, marehsian?
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Orite orite. You can get it online if you want. Of course through paypal, if you want a more secure transaction.
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They sell u repackaged common sense only. rclxub.gif

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I just rated Goody good! If only there's a "Thanks" button haha.
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Just switch the genders in my first post. What I wrote is actually gender neutral.
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Aku rasa fundamental ni pun bersesuaian dengan transvetite dan homosexualiti. Betulkah pendapat saya?
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 17 2009, 02:41 PM)
Aku rasa fundamental ni pun bersesuaian dengan transvetite dan homosexualiti. Betulkah pendapat saya?
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Apr 17 2009, 02:41 PM)
ain't you already married? so greedy! doh.gif:
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This is a special, no-nonsense, get your "ideal partner" and stuff!

Only a few lines rather than a whole book!

The Love Guru is a Hawk! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 17 2009, 02:41 PM)
Aku rasa fundamental ni pun bersesuaian dengan transvetite dan homosexualiti. Betulkah pendapat saya?
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lol doenst matter. We arent gonna judge you tongue.gif
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QUOTE(The_YongGrand @ Apr 17 2009, 11:43 PM)
This is a special, no-nonsense, get your "ideal partner" and stuff!

Only a few lines rather than a whole book!

The Love Guru is a Hawk! biggrin.gif
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Look,even rabbits like it. biggrin.gif
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When I feel like it la... only reason I wrote this is because I cannot tahan all those topics being created sweat.gif
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Those topics created are like sweat.gif, and fortunately hawk is able to save the day! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Apr 8 2009, 07:05 PM)
It would be great if hawk could write more.

It's good.Short,humble without all the arrogance,no stereotyping,pack with information and straight to the point.Even comes with a tl;dr version. biggrin.gif

Enough of those so called casanova or shit.We need people who knows what are they writing.

I read both versions,by the way.RWI version is better.
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yeah i should agree too. it all boils down to confidence, and more confidence!

me, not really a chick magnet, but i can't be straining too hard to use all the pickup lines and the "standardized" routines because they could make me feel more weird to girls!! laugh.gif

so, i guess i should just do everything like casual and usual!

QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Apr 18 2009, 12:39 AM)
Look,even rabbits like it. biggrin.gif
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Those topics created are like  sweat.gif, and fortunately hawk is able to save the day! biggrin.gif

I wonder if the day is saved laugh.gif

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I wonder if the day is saved laugh.gif
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I wonder also. But still, the day will be saved! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(The_YongGrand @ Apr 18 2009, 10:04 AM)
so, i guess i should just do everything like casual and usual!
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QUOTE(The_YongGrand @ Apr 18 2009, 10:04 AM)
Those topics created are like  sweat.gif, and fortunately hawk is able to save the day! biggrin.gif
yeah i should agree too. it all boils down to confidence, and more confidence!

me, not really a chick magnet, but i can't be straining too hard to use all the pickup lines and the "standardized" routines because they could make me feel more weird to girls!!  laugh.gif

so, i guess i should just do everything like casual and usual!
the wabbit always admire the hawk. biggrin.gif
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Wabbits get eaten by hawks tongue.gif laugh.gif
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That's why he sedang ampu to me... hoping I won't eat him brows.gif
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Does this mean that ... instead of wasting time here in cupid corner reading others' problems ... We should try to achieve something that actually benefits us sweat.gif
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BBQ rabbit is nice to eat thou! drool.gif
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It's okay and considered 'easier' to get a girl for me,compared to guys.

Getting a guy for me, isn't easy. They are as demanding, or more demanding than girls sometimes. smile.gif
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It's okay and considered 'easier' to get a girl for me,compared to guys.

Getting a guy for me, isn't easy. They are as demanding, or more demanding than girls sometimes. smile.gif
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you wanna get a guy?
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well, let's just say that i have a much more different sexual orientation compared to you.hehe whistling.gif
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QUOTE(The_YongGrand @ Apr 20 2009, 12:38 PM)
well, let's just say that i have a much more different sexual orientation compared to you.hehe  whistling.gif
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well, let's just say that i have a much more different sexual orientation compared to you.hehe  whistling.gif
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ahhh.... laugh.gif
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Be reminded that I could get a guy, or a girl, or what/whichever that pleases me. I'm looking for uh... "Doesn't Matter". smile.gif

Girls, I need moar confidence. Guys - I had a hard time getting them since most of the time I'm getting the one with the normal orientation. And worse, it's *hard* to detect their orientation. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(ac_N1 @ Apr 20 2009, 12:43 PM)
but your siggy tells otherwise  drool.gif
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Well, I can't be sticking guys over there. Some overly sensitive people might protes. And I like girls too, so what the hell.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(The_YongGrand @ Apr 20 2009, 12:43 PM)
Be reminded that I could get a guy, or a girl, or what/whichever that pleases me. I'm looking for uh... "Doesn't Matter". smile.gif

Girls, I need moar confidence. Guys - I had a hard time getting them since most of the time I'm getting the one with the normal orientation. And worse, it's *hard* to detect their orientation. laugh.gif


Added on April 20, 2009, 12:45 pm

Well, I can't be sticking guys over there. Some overly sensitive people might protes. And I like girls too, so what the hell..  smile.gif
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don't be competition to both camps! Choose one!

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QUOTE(The_YongGrand @ Apr 20 2009, 12:43 PM)
Be reminded that I could get a guy, or a girl, or what/whichever that pleases me. I'm looking for uh... "Doesn't Matter". smile.gif

Girls, I need moar confidence. Guys - I had a hard time getting them since most of the time I'm getting the one with the normal orientation. And worse, it's *hard* to detect their orientation. laugh.gif
or maybe u can get yourself something that can fly and have silver feather laugh.gif
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or maybe u can get yourself something that can fly and have silver feather  laugh.gif
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oh shi------------
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Oi, you greedy bugger
don't be competition to both camps! Choose one!
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I will get which ever one that suits me anyway, guy or girl! whistling.gif laugh.gif
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Getting a guy for me, isn't easy. They are as demanding, or more demanding than girls sometimes. smile.gif
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Best coming out of the closet gay declaration ever in lowyat.net thumbup.gif


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The last few pages in this thread reminds me of that scene where Xerxes laid his hands on Leonidas.

300: The Untold Stories

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Best coming out of the closet gay declaration ever in lowyat.net  thumbup.gif
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he was out from day 1 lol. I find getting girls easier and 3 have shown interest in me biggrin.gif

IRL is win
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/Rant!

I'm sick of seeing all these threads and responses from men who obviously do not possess common sense, human dignity or any testicles whatsoever.

They write threads like
"I fall in love wif PROSTITUTE, I wan the pain so much, I wan to share it wif u all"
"My girlfren cheat me, I like eating creampie, how to beg her to take me back?"
"Sex is bad"
"How to talk to girls? I am so hopeless that NO ADVICE U GIVE ME WILL WORK, I just want to talk about how useless I am, LA DI DA"
"My girlfren let another man put his d*** into her *****. Is they having seks??? Wut do I do? sad.gif "

And even worse than seeing all these thread titles is reading the responses to them from an equally MORONIC cadre of hardcore clueless posters.

I shall now be handing out demerit points as well as merit points. At the end of the day the whole of Cupid's Corner shall know who the greatest heroes of our times are, as well as whose "advice" is the most dickless in the known universe.

Until there are clear indications and measurements of what HUMAN DIGNITY is, Cupid's Corner shall just have absolutely no standards.

Edit: Nah, I don't even know why I bother. This would be like trying to counter-punch a 35 foot tsunami.

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Apr 24 2009, 05:07 PM)
/Rant!

I'm sick of seeing all these threads and responses from men who obviously do not possess common sense, human dignity or any testicles whatsoever.

They write threads like
"I fall in love wif PROSTITUTE, I wan the pain so much, I wan to share it wif u all"
"My girlfren cheat me, I like eating creampie, how to beg her to take me back?"
"Sex is bad"
"How to talk to girls? I am so hopeless that NO ADVICE U GIVE ME WILL WORK, I just want to talk about how useless I am, LA DI DA"
"My girlfren let another man put his d*** into her *****. Is they having seks??? Wut do I do? sad.gif "

And even worse than seeing all these thread titles is reading the responses to them from an equally MORONIC cadre of hardcore clueless posters.

I shall now be handing out demerit points as well as merit points. At the end of the day the whole of Cupid's Corner shall know who the greatest heroes of our times are, as well as whose "advice" is the most dickless in the known universe.

Until there are clear indications and measurements of what HUMAN DIGNITY is, Cupid's Corner shall just have absolutely no standards.

Edit: Nah, I don't even know why I bother. This would be like trying to counter-punch a 35 foot tsunami.
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No offense but who are you to judge? Hmm?
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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Apr 24 2009, 05:07 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Edit: Nah, I don't even know why I bother. This would be like trying to counter-punch a 35 foot tsunami.
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Because j00 r teh nub with zero real posts.

...and all the "+1" in all the threads in CC means nothing as people dont need your approval. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Apr 24 2009, 06:29 PM)
Because j00 r teh nub with zero real posts.

...and all the "+1" in all the threads in CC means nothing as people dont need your approval. smile.gif
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No offence but when you write like that I snort out my coffee. Every time.

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I shall meditate more on that question. And then I shall CRUSH you. Just like Dhalsim would.

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Look for me, Mistress Happy. Where all your fantasies and dreams will cum through. Literally, cum through!

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Apr 24 2009, 07:15 PM)
No offence but when you write like that I snort out my coffee. Every time.
I shall meditate more on that question. And then I shall CRUSH you. Just like Dhalsim would.

Dear Dhalsim.... give me strength!!!!!
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^ I sense the beginning of the Legend of Streetfighter.
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so one should be yourself and just act the way u are. Not like becoming another person which u think might attract your target.
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Shane McCutcheon approves of this thread

"I donno. the girls just come to me. maybe its because i like to make the feel...special"
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This is so shocking. Who is this Shane McCutcheon, and why does he look like the angmoh version of the "prettiest" girls featured in this forum?

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Know this, Joey-Kun, for it is of great importance. You have sullied mine eyes and serenity with this abomination of a vision, so repulsed I am and violated at the core that I have no words to describe my revulsion. Nothing compares to the horror you have visited upon me, not my nightly dreams of hunchbacked, ancient crones with crooked noses slowly walking up the walls and across the ceilings of my bedroom, nor the living memories of the sounds of bones breaking and wetly grinding against one another.

One day I shall repay the ill favor you have shown me. I tell you this now, so that you will know that day is coming, and so that you may dread it.

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QUOTE(nightzstar @ May 7 2009, 08:28 PM)
so one should be yourself and just act the way u are. Not like becoming another person which u think might attract your target.
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that sums up most of the things discussed in the thread! good! biggrin.gif
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I feel lazy right now but I will update this thread on why I like it, and I will post seriously this time.
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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ May 13 2009, 04:32 PM)
Know this, Joey-Kun, for it is of great importance. You have sullied mine eyes and serenity with this abomination of a vision, so repulsed I am and violated at the core that I have no words to describe my revulsion. Nothing compares to the horror you have visited upon me, not my nightly dreams of hunchbacked, ancient crones with crooked noses  slowly walking up the walls and across the ceilings of my bedroom, nor the living memories of the sounds of bones breaking and wetly grinding against one another.

One day I shall repay the ill favor you have shown me. I tell you this now, so that you will know that day is coming, and so that you may dread it.
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EPIC WIN

LOL XD


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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Apr 24 2009, 05:07 PM)
/Rant!

I'm sick of seeing all these threads and responses from men who obviously do not possess common sense, human dignity or any testicles whatsoever.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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hmm... but sometimes people post up those "i'm hopeless", "i got dumped" topic cos they just wanna share it with someone... i dont think they really want any advice from lyn members... it's just that when we share something, we feel better... that's what psychiatrists do. they just listen and listen, and the patient would feel better even though the psychiatrist didnt actually give him any advice... that's what i think la.. feel free to flame me if im wrong..
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anyway, here are some tips.. looks are not the most important factor... the most important thing is to be nice and sweet to the girl u like, up to the point that u're willing to trouble urself or do something kinda pathetic to make her happy (like cooking some porridge and driving all the way to her house to give it to her when she's not feeling well, etc).. the other guys would probably laugh at u, but the girl would be grateful and she will treat u nicer and then thing will go along just fine... do note that this applies to nice girls only... if the girl is the type who's looking for money or handsome looks, then u're better off without her..
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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ May 17 2009, 01:46 PM)
anyway, here are some tips.. looks are not the most important factor... the most important thing is to be nice and sweet to the girl u like, up to the point that u're willing to trouble urself or do something kinda pathetic to make her happy (like cooking some porridge and driving all the way to her house to give it to her when she's not feeling well, etc).. the other guys would probably laugh at u, but the girl would be grateful and she will treat u nicer and then thing will go along just fine... do note that this applies to nice girls only... if the girl is the type who's looking for money or handsome looks, then u're better off without her..
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Wrong, the most important thing is to be yourself.

You have not understood the material.. tsk tsk tsk shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ May 17 2009, 01:32 PM)
hmm... but sometimes people post up those "i'm hopeless", "i got dumped" topic cos they just wanna share it with someone... i dont think they really want any advice from lyn members... it's just that when we share something, we feel better... that's what psychiatrists do. they just listen and listen, and the patient would feel better even though the psychiatrist didnt actually give him any advice... that's what i think la.. feel free to flame me if im wrong..
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Ok, I will flame you.

YOU ARE WRONG.

This forum is not a substitute tampon to soak up menses and other excretions. Neither is that the role of psychiatrists.

The role of the psychiatrist is to diagnose chronic/acute mental problems and to suggest a proper drug to treat that problem.

These whiny little b****es who would rather whine and cry cry about their problems should be given a swift kick to the nuts because that's all they ever do and guess what? We're not interested!


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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ May 17 2009, 01:46 PM)
anyway, here are some tips.. looks are not the most important factor... the most important thing is to be nice and sweet to the girl u like, up to the point that u're willing to trouble urself or do something kinda pathetic to make her happy (like cooking some porridge and driving all the way to her house to give it to her when she's not feeling well, etc).. the other guys would probably laugh at u, but the girl would be grateful and she will treat u nicer and then thing will go along just fine... do note that this applies to nice girls only... if the girl is the type who's looking for money or handsome looks, then u're better off without her..
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Seriously.... who taught you such stupid things?

What you mentioned has its place, but... THE MOST IMPORTANT THING????!!!!!!

GOD NO!


You are putting the cart before the horse.

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Wrong, the most important thing is to be yourself.

You have not understood the material.. tsk tsk tsk shakehead.gif
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ohh... i thought it works, cos it worked a few times for me... tongue.gif
so what if being myself means being a jerk who doesn't give a damn about other people? should i stick to being myself and wait for the woman of my dreams? and i thought u said so urself about "improving urself to meet their standards".

QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ May 17 2009, 03:09 PM)
Ok, I will flame you.

YOU ARE WRONG.

This forum is not a substitute tampon to soak up menses and other excretions. Neither is that the role of psychiatrists.

The role of the psychiatrist is to diagnose chronic/acute mental problems and to suggest a proper drug to treat that problem.

These whiny little b****es who would rather whine and cry cry about their problems should be given a swift kick to the nuts because that's all they ever do and guess what? We're not interested!
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are u referring to the whole cupid's corner or just this specific thread? hmm... ok then, mind explaining to me the purpose of this forum?

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ohh... i thought it works, cos it worked a few times for me... tongue.gif


People are too fixated on being the nice guy. When will guys realise, they have more to offer than just being "nice"?

It is the people who don't have anything going for them that cling to the idea of OVERDOING nice. Women pick up on this subconsciously. The kinder ones may forgive you of this fault, but then you would be taking advantage of their better nature by refusing to know better.

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are u referring to the whole cupid's corner or just this specific thread? hmm... ok then, mind explaining to me the purpose of this forum?
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I didn't start this forum nor may I speak of its intent and purpose. But if you wish to ask me what it means to me and what I personally think, I will be more than happy to tell you.
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I didn't start this forum nor may I speak of its intent and purpose. But if you wish to ask me what it means to me and what I personally think, I will be more than happy to tell you.
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so u are giving ur speech based on ur personal opinions? what about other people who have their own personal opinions regarding the purpose of this forum? if they think that this is the place to whine and share their problems, is it wrong for them to post up their topics here based on their assumptions of the purpose of the thread? or do u think that only ur opinion is right and only ur opinion matters? besides, other people have the option to reply or not to reply in the threads these whiny people started right? maybe they are whiny, they dont have their own self-standards like u do, the ones u guys have been talking about in this thread. but i still believe they have the right to whine and b***h about their problems in this forum as it is the most appropriate. or maybe mods should open up another forum called "my life sucks and i wanna b***h about it in this forum instead of cupid's corner". then i guess it is wrong for them to post up their topics here. but still, i think that it is inappropriate to just bash them without giving it a thought. no need to get all fired up just bcos a whiny guy started a pathetic topic which is filled with useless replies from other people. they have their rights, which is the right to voice out their opinions and frustrations, no matter how stupid it is. just becos some of u have higher self-confidence and a better understanding of common sense and human dignity and self-worth, it doesnt give u the right to bash those who aren't as privileged. but if u insist to keep on talking about standards, then i just would like to suggest that u explain ur arguments in simple english terms. u're from RWI, and the other guys are from kopitiam and cupid's corner, and we might have some problems understanding the important points in ur arguments, but that doesnt mean that u have to be sarcastic to them when they do not comprehend ur sentences. (this is pretty much for silverhawk, not u bro). peace!
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What???

Who are you addressing here? Silverhawk, or me, or both of us?

Way to rant, buddy. Care to express yourself more clearly next time? rolleyes.gif
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both of u, but the last few sentences regarding english is to silverhawk. anyway, nevermind. g'luck with ur forum. icon_rolleyes.gif
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I'm going to turn into the Incredible Hulk! mad.gif

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ May 17 2009, 04:52 PM)
so u are giving ur speech based on ur personal opinions? what about other people who have their own personal opinions regarding the purpose of this forum? if they think that this is the place to whine and share their problems, is it wrong for them to post up their topics here based on their assumptions of the purpose of the thread? or do u think that only ur opinion is right and only ur opinion matters? besides, other people have the option to reply or not to reply in the threads these whiny people started right? maybe they are whiny, they dont have their own self-standards like u do, the ones u guys have been talking about in this thread. but i still believe they have the right to whine and b***h about their problems in this forum as it is the most appropriate. or maybe mods should open up another forum called "my life sucks and i wanna b***h about it in this forum instead of cupid's corner". then i guess it is wrong for them to post up their topics here. but still, i think that it is inappropriate to just bash them without giving it a thought. no need to get all fired up just bcos a whiny guy started a pathetic topic which is filled with useless replies from other people. they have their rights, which is the right to voice out their opinions and frustrations, no matter how stupid it is. just becos some of u have higher self-confidence and a better understanding of common sense and human dignity and self-worth, it doesnt give u the right to bash those who aren't as privileged. but if u insist to keep on talking about standards, then i just would like to suggest that u explain ur arguments in simple english terms. u're from RWI, and the other guys are from kopitiam and cupid's corner, and we might have some problems understanding the important points in ur arguments, but that doesnt mean that u have to be sarcastic to them when they do not comprehend ur sentences. (this is pretty much for silverhawk, not u bro). peace!
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As much as people have the right to whine, so do we have the right to smack sense into them. Perhaps we're not so gentle with it, but you know why? Its simply because being gentle is what caused them to be like this in the first place. Being nice to them doesn't work, it only enforces their pathetic behaviour. A lot of people here, grew up spoilt & pampered, with unrealistic expectations and assumptions of life and humanity.

You and others can go on scolding/bashing me for being tough on others, feeling superior for being "nice" if you wish. I don't care one bit. Those who I've helped, know the quality of help which I give. I don't have to prove myself to you or anyone smile.gif

Btw, what we have isn't a privilege, its something we worked for that anyone can obtain. Its not like we were born with it. If you think what I wrote was too complex, go read the tl;dr version la. If you can't even understand THAT, I'm sorry la, you're beyond help tongue.gif
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As much as people have the right to whine, so do we have the right to smack sense into them. Perhaps we're not so gentle with it, but you know why? Its simply because being gentle is what caused them to be like this in the first place. Being nice to them doesn't work, it only enforces their pathetic behaviour. A lot of people here, grew up spoilt & pampered, with unrealistic expectations and assumptions of life and humanity.

You and others can go on scolding/bashing me for being tough on others, feeling superior for being "nice" if you wish. I don't care one bit. Those who I've helped, know the quality of help which I give. I don't have to prove myself to you or anyone smile.gif

Btw, what we have isn't a privilege, its something we worked for that anyone can obtain. Its not like we were born with it. If you think what I wrote was too complex, go read the tl;dr version la. If you can't even understand THAT, I'm sorry la, you're beyond help tongue.gif
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ouhh, i certainly +1 to this post.

yeah, those people need to be knocked hard on the head.

quite often guys, they think too much and get all confused. and often tell them also they don't see, really make you wish you could hammer them to shreds.
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ouhh, i certainly +1 to this post.

yeah, those people need to be knocked hard on the head.

quite often guys, they think too much and get all confused. and often tell them also they don't see, really make you wish you could hammer them to shreds.
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there are points to which i agree, and to which i do not. and we all pretty much stand firm to our points of view. therefore, i'll just conclude that we have different points of view, and i'll be sticking with mine for now. smile.gif
@dickson poon, let me hear ur reply before u turn all green and start smashing the keyboard. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 17 2009, 05:32 PM)
As much as people have the right to whine, so do we have the right to smack sense into them. Perhaps we're not so gentle with it, but you know why? Its simply because being gentle is what caused them to be like this in the first place. Being nice to them doesn't work, it only enforces their pathetic behaviour. A lot of people here, grew up spoilt & pampered, with unrealistic expectations and assumptions of life and humanity.

You and others can go on scolding/bashing me for being tough on others, feeling superior for being "nice" if you wish. I don't care one bit. Those who I've helped, know the quality of help which I give. I don't have to prove myself to you or anyone smile.gif

Btw, what we have isn't a privilege, its something we worked for that anyone can obtain. Its not like we were born with it. If you think what I wrote was too complex, go read the tl;dr version la. If you can't even understand THAT, I'm sorry la, you're beyond help tongue.gif
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Wah, you really expressed it way better than I could even hope to. ohmy.gif

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there are points to which i agree, and to which i do not. and we all pretty much stand firm to our points of view. therefore, i'll just conclude that we have different points of view, and i'll be sticking with mine for now. smile.gif
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What do you agree with? What do you not agree with? The purpose of a forum is to share ideas and discuss, its not about changing people's opinion.
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which girl you want is one thing, whether the girl you want wants you is another thing! tongue.gif it won't work if it's just 1 way.

in the end you just have to explore and see which one wants you. biggrin.gif
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^ mods can remove that post please? product spam dry.gif


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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 17 2009, 05:50 PM)
which girl you want is one thing, whether the girl you want wants you is another thing! tongue.gif it won't work if it's just 1 way.

in the end you just have to explore and see which one wants you. biggrin.gif
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You want her, she doesn't want you = sad.gif

You want her, she wants you = thumbup.gif wub.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ May 17 2009, 05:41 PM)
there are points to which i agree, and to which i do not. and we all pretty much stand firm to our points of view. therefore, i'll just conclude that we have different points of view, and i'll be sticking with mine for now. smile.gif
@dickson poon, let me hear ur reply before u turn all green and start smashing the keyboard. tongue.gif
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This is the critical difference.

Those who are wise know that opinions can and do change, for the very fact that we may have them.

But there are also those who are doing nothing more than re-affirming the groupthink of the Idiocracy: a rule based on the lowest common denominator of intelligence. Imagine that. An entire way of life and belief system based not on the wisest course of action nor the most intelligent, nor what can achieve the goals of society, but one that is based on what everybody else can agree upon, no matter how stupid or banal.

THIS is what we have sunk to.

Some people may contend that this is just a forum after all, and thus has no importance.

I differ in opinion. I think that people DO come here to get solid advice and feedback, that people DO expect better, they want insight, thought provoking points of views and quality opinions.

This is the fundamental difference between those of us who can catch the nuances of what is being discussed in here and elsewhere, and those who cannot. To those who cannot or more likely, DO NOT WANT to discern the difference, all points of view are the same, and all are thus of equal value.

This, is manifestly false.

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 17 2009, 05:32 PM)
1. As much as people have the right to whine, so do we have the right to smack sense into them. Perhaps we're not so gentle with it, but you know why? Its simply because being gentle is what caused them to be like this in the first place. Being nice to them doesn't work, it only enforces their pathetic behaviour. A lot of people here, grew up spoilt & pampered, with unrealistic expectations and assumptions of life and humanity.

You and others can go on scolding/bashing me for being tough on others, feeling superior for being "nice" if you wish. I don't care one bit. Those who I've helped, know the quality of help which I give. I don't have to prove myself to you or anyone smile.gif

Btw, what we have isn't a privilege, its something we worked for that anyone can obtain. Its not like we were born with it. 2. If you think what I wrote was too complex, go read the tl;dr version la. If you can't even understand THAT, I'm sorry la, you're beyond help tongue.gif
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1. I agree that u're right in that context, although i still prefer a different approach to these heartbroken whiny people. One which is pretty much the opposite of urs.

2. I understand even the full text version. I was speaking for the people who do not. And the thing which i do not agree is ur approach of "if u cant even do this, u're on ur own. i dont wanna waste my time trying to explain to people like u". doesnt seem very helpful dont u think? that kind of approach is great for a blogger, but if u're a columnist or something, then i dont think the boss would be too happy. anyway, i know u're not a columnist or anything, just trying to give an example. so no need to argue on this one.
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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ May 17 2009, 05:54 PM)
Only genetic neuters do not produce their own pheromones.


oih smarter a bit can or not? see people spam already don't quote them la. give them publicity waffor?

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1. I agree that u're right in that context, although i still prefer a different approach to these heartbroken whiny people. One which is pretty much the opposite of urs.

why?

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2. I understand even the full text version. I was speaking for the people who do not. And the thing which i do not agree is ur approach of "if u cant even do this, u're on ur own. i dont wanna waste my time trying to explain to people like u". doesnt seem very helpful dont u think? that kind of approach is great for a blogger, but if u're a columnist or something, then i dont think the boss would be too happy. anyway, i know u're not a columnist or anything, just trying to give an example. so no need to argue on this one.
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Dude, I spend a significant time explaining things to people doh.gif

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Explanations and patience alone might not be enough. We assume that we can address the problem rationally, that we can win over opinions and help enlighten via rational discourse.

But what the Idiocracy is doing in here has nothing to do with rationality or logical discourse. They are re-affirming their rule simply because they can, and they use brute, crude methods.

They should not be allowed to run amuck like this.
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1. THIS is what we have sunk to.

2. This is the fundamental difference between those of us who can catch the nuances of what is being discussed in here and elsewhere, and those who cannot. To those who cannot or more likely, DO NOT WANT to discern the difference, all points of view are the same, and all are thus of equal value.

This, is manifestly false.

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1. As sad as it sounds, it's the reality, one which is practiced worldwide by the majority of common people. Cant argue with that.

2. Then i guess my point of view puts me in the latter crowd. i believe those will be my final words in this thread. wish u all the best! icon_rolleyes.gif

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why?
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i guess it's becos of my field of studies. i'm a medical student, and from day one, we've been taught not to sympathize our patients, but to empathize them. no matter how ridiculous our patients complaints might be, no matter what kind of stupid thing they did to cause the disease in the first place, we were not supposed to judge nor advice our patients, instead we should try to understand how do they feel, and then try to advise them without hurting their feelings. mind u, in our exam, if we hurt the patient (physically or emotionally), we're gonna fail and we'll have to repeat the whole year. so u'll have to be really careful. umm, i really dont know how to explain this properly, but let's just say that the medical field has changed my views and perceptions regarding this matter. maybe i'm straying a bit from ur question and this topic, but that's all i can say to answer ur question. i used to have views pretty much similar to urs a few years back, but not anymore. but i respect ur approach, and i do believe that ur approach might be the best one, depending on the type of person receiving it.
@dickson poon, im not chickening out, i just think that i dont have anything else to say. sweat.gif
take care guys! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ May 17 2009, 06:20 PM)
1. As sad as it sounds, it's the reality, one which is practiced worldwide by the majority of common people. Cant argue with that.

2. Then i guess my point of view puts me in the latter crowd. i believe those will be my final words in this thread. wish u all the best! icon_rolleyes.gif
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i guess it's becos of my field of studies. i'm a medical student, and from day one, we've been taught not to sympathize our patients, but to empathize them. no matter how ridiculous our patients complaints might be, no matter what kind of stupid thing they did to cause the disease in the first place, we were not supposed to judge nor advice our patients, instead we should try to understand how do they feel, and then try to advise them without hurting their feelings. mind u, in our exam, if we hurt the patient (physically or emotionally), we're gonna fail and we'll have to repeat the whole year. so u'll have to be really careful. umm, i really dont know how to explain this properly, but let's just say that the medical field has changed my views and perceptions regarding this matter. maybe i'm straying a bit from ur question and this topic, but that's all i can say to answer ur question. i used to have views pretty much similar to urs a few years back, but not anymore. but i respect ur approach, and i do believe that ur approach might be the best one, depending on the type of person receiving it.
@dickson poon, im not chickening out, i just think that i dont have anything else to say. sweat.gif
take care guys! biggrin.gif
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That's because the professional role of a doctor is to treat medical conditions, not social ones.

Do you understand how this particular code came to be? You've memorised it well. Perhaps you would know a little about the dark history of the medical profession and its involvement in many hideous, unsavoury practices.

This section of the forum on the other hand is not Mother Theresa's hospice. We are not doctors or psychotherapists. Anybody needing that sort of help would be done grave ill just for posting here.

Because of this, stupid, diseased threads need to be vigorously purged and expunged from here, lest this section become a haven for sickness and mental rot.

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This is so shocking. Who is this Shane McCutcheon, and why does he look like the angmoh version of the "prettiest" girls featured in this forum?

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Know this, Joey-Kun, for it is of great importance. You have sullied mine eyes and serenity with this abomination of a vision, so repulsed I am and violated at the core that I have no words to describe my revulsion. Nothing compares to the horror you have visited upon me, not my nightly dreams of hunchbacked, ancient crones with crooked noses  slowly walking up the walls and across the ceilings of my bedroom, nor the living memories of the sounds of bones breaking and wetly grinding against one another.

One day I shall repay the ill favor you have shown me. I tell you this now, so that you will know that day is coming, and so that you may dread it.
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Walao, so "she" wrapped her breasts tightly to her chest with cloth or something??

All of these things... so unimaginable to me. x_x
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How to get the girl you want!, Yes, the secret is here

i'll try to make the guy version.. tongue.gif
coz i'm bored n feel like writing..
can ah silverhawk??

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How to get the girl you want!, Yes, the secret is here

i'll try to make the guy version.. tongue.gif
coz i'm bored n feel like writing..
can ah silverhawk??
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orite.. notworthy.gif
will finish by Friday/Saturday
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need approval n pre-comment from LYN forumers first.. unsure.gif

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This topic is interesting. Nice one hawk.

May I add something?

The problem with guys are they are never settled with what they have. They always listen to their friends and keep on coming with lame excuses to shun the girl that care most of him.

Maybe He's Just Not That Into You can give a few hints. I do think that the movie is quite resourceful for both men and women.
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ May 23 2009, 02:59 PM)
This topic is interesting. Nice one hawk.

May I add something?

The problem with guys are they are never settled with what they have. They always listen to their friends and keep on coming with lame excuses to shun the girl that care most of him.

Maybe He's Just Not That Into You can give a few hints. I do think that the movie is quite resourceful for both men and women.
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Never "settle" with what you have, and never choose a person just because they care for you.
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Well of course with the exception of certain requirements.

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Well of course with the exception of certain requirements.
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aih silverhawk..
finished my editing for the topic i made...
change the whole thing...
don't want to do how to get the man you want!
drives me crazy rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
seriously..
it drives me nuts by just thinking about it..
i almost switch sides.. ohmy.gif

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Never "settle" with what you have, and never choose a person just because they care for you.
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does that mean choosing one who doesnt care for u? does that mean risking being abandoned by ur spouse in times of turbulence?
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does that mean choosing one who doesnt care for u? does that mean risking being abandoned by ur spouse in times of turbulence?
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No, that means you choose one that you are attracted to/like/love that ALSO cares for you. If you don't really like that person but accept them because they care for you, you will likely cheat on her or break her heart sooner or later. Its a disaster waiting to happen.
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trust me, he/she will earn ur love and respect in time as u'll feel more and more appreciative of how caring and supporting ur spouse is. unless u have a strong dislike towards some1 then thats a diff story.


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QUOTE(C-Note @ May 24 2009, 02:11 PM)
trust me, he/she will earn ur love and respect in time as u'll feel more and more appreciative of how caring and supporting ur spouse is. unless u have a strong dislike towards some1 then thats a diff story.
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That can work, but its not something I would recommend because you're taking a gamble about whether you will come to love them or not. Accepting someone like that is incredibly selfish, because you're taking advantage of their love for you.
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 24 2009, 02:25 PM)
That can work, but its not something I would recommend because you're taking a gamble about whether you will come to love them or not. Accepting someone like that is incredibly selfish, because you're taking advantage of their love for you.
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Thats true. But think again, just because u love some1 for now does NOT mean u'll love em forever either
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Thats true. But think again, just because u love some1 for now does NOT mean u'll love em forever either
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That makes you preposition even worse doh.gif

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 24 2009, 02:35 PM)
That makes you preposition even worse doh.gif
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err i dont geddit sorry
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You're basically being ridiculous. If you say there's no guarantee that you'll love a person forever, that makes your idea that you can "grow to love someone", even more stupid. Because even if you learnt to love that partner, you can still change your feelings for them. It might as well have not happened.


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Thats true. But think again, just because u love some1 for now does NOT mean u'll love em forever either
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that is not for us to know..
nothing is certain...
u will love them forever or u will not
depends on the person to continue his relationship or stop it...

QUOTE(C-Note @ May 24 2009, 02:40 PM)
err i dont geddit sorry
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u will know someday..

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You're basically being ridiculous. If you say there's no guarantee that you'll love a person forever, that makes your idea that you can "grow to love someone", even more stupid. Because even if you learnt to love that partner, you can still change your feelings for them. It might as well have not happened.
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technically saying theres no such thg as guarantee in love. When u start to grow to love someone, that kind of love is solely built on the foundation of trust,personality and loyalty. THAT is what contributes to a long-lasting marriage. u dont love some1 jz because ur attracted to him/her.
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technically saying theres no such thg as guarantee in love. When u start to grow to love someone, that kind of love is solely built on the foundation of trust,personality and loyalty. THAT is what contributes to a long-lasting marriage. u dont love some1 jz because ur attracted to him/her.
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Love also includes attraction and chemistry, without which a relationship DOES NOT LAST. Trust? Personality? Loyalty? Guess what, you can get that all with friends tongue.gif What differentiates your friends from your partner?

Its true that there is no guarantee in love, and that applies to anything way you attain that love. Its stupid for you to assume that people who are attracted to each other will not have the same foundation as someone who learns to love someone. The dynamics of human relationships are quite complex, and I don't think you have the ability to decipher or understand it yet.
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Love also includes attraction and chemistry, without which a relationship DOES NOT LAST. Trust? Personality? Loyalty? Guess what, you can get that all with friends tongue.gif What differentiates your friends from your partner?

Its true that there is no guarantee in love, and that applies to anything way you attain that love. Its stupid for you to assume that people who are attracted to each other will not have the same foundation as someone who learns to love someone. The dynamics of human relationships are quite complex, and I don't think you have the ability to decipher or understand it yet.
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not that he doesn't understand, he does actually. He understood it differently and it is different from one usual understanding of love.
There is much to know about love, but we will not able to decipher or understand it fully.

We can just understand it to the level we called 'marriage and happily ever after' and the rest of it as we know either good or bad. We can decipher or understand love, but mankind making it hard for us to understood things. The difference we have between us and god is too much and from the point we know of it is not even have reach a quarter of understanding towards love.

That's why the brain is 'locked' inside a thick skull in order for humans not to understand more than they should and that's why god created people from various kind, to ensure the different points of view they have to unite then it's love. Love requires unity from all the people around us to able to understand the 'love' we know, not just by a couple of people or some shrink that thinks they have better life in their relationship. But for now, love is what love is; Sex

meh i can write some more but i don't want to mess people's topic. Hope you understand what I wrote here C-Note mellow.gif
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stuff a pair of socks down the front of your pants and thrust!

them girls love that
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stuff a pair of socks down the front of your pants and thrust!

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no, just put a large cucumber inside ur underwear or pants.

Stand in front of the lady and rub it.

Them girls love that.

u can eat the cucumber but not the socks. so better go with the cucumber laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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^ EW DUDE, you'd EAT that cucumber?

HELLA NASTY. TMI dude, TMI!
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^ EW DUDE, you'd EAT that cucumber?

HELLA NASTY. TMI dude, TMI!
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idiots will.

for me, i grew my own 'cucumber' naturally and i let them girls eat it tongue.gif

its actually a scene from Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo at the last part

a gigolo reveals his secret of his big 'stick' which is a cucumber he took out of his pants.

Tried to give it to Rob Schneider (Deuce Bigalow) as a token for a particular reason.

Rob refuse than the gig ate it. The secret kinda work for them girls u know tongue.gif


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^ i don't get how people remember like scenes from movies.

I can't even remember that scene in that movie and I've seen it like twice...
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^ i don't get how people remember like scenes from movies.

I can't even remember that scene in that movie and I've seen it like twice...
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if you were a boy,

you will understand why. I've watch it twice too but still remember most part of it coz the movie was goddamn erotically funny.

especially that 'gay and dangerous poster' it was sensational.

Guys remember erotic things more than they can possibly about maths and sciences. not approved to nerds and geeks. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Ah the age old question..... TS whats ur level (PUA classification) ?
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Ah the age old question..... TS whats ur level (PUA classification) ?
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QUOTE(xmsa666 @ Jun 12 2009, 01:43 AM)
Ah the age old question..... TS whats ur level (PUA classification) ?
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Lol, PUA classification.
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I'm just shaking my head at all the faggy talk in the last few pages. What kind of man uses language like "erotically funny" and "PUA classification"? What the f***?

EROTICALLY FUNNY???? DOES SUCH A THING EVEN HAVE A MEANING? WHAT THE f*** IS SO "EROTIC" OR EVEN FUNNY ABOUT A GUY EATING A CUCUMBER THAT HAS BEEN IN HIS PANTS OR A "GAY AND DANGEROUS"
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As for phrases like "PUA classification": spoken like a true weirdo.

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Jun 14 2009, 07:23 PM)
I'm just shaking my head at all the faggy talk in the last few pages. What kind of man uses language like "erotically funny" and "PUA classification"? What the f***?

EROTICALLY FUNNY???? DOES SUCH A THING EVEN HAVE A MEANING? WHAT THE f*** IS SO "EROTIC" OR EVEN FUNNY ABOUT A GUY EATING A CUCUMBER THAT HAS BEEN IN HIS PANTS OR A "GAY AND DANGEROUS"
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As for phrases like "PUA classification": spoken like a true weirdo.
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Ok Mr.D1cky Less talk and more technique pls

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Here's a technique: get the f*** out of this thread and stop polluting it with your gayness.
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Lol, will you elaborate what you mean exactly by your PUA classification?
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Deadlocks, please don't feed the monkey...

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Jun 15 2009, 06:41 PM)
Deadlocks, please don't feed the monkey...
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That monkey will hand you a banana with shit-smeared hands. x_x

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Lol I'd love to hear his PuA classification too.
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Here's a technique: get the f*** out of this thread and stop polluting it with your gayness.
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I see you named your self D1CK for a reason now there eh ? rclxms.gif
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Wooo, great comeback.

Now stfu and get out!

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Dude, want to be entertained?

Just search "xmsa666" on google
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blink.gif PUA classification? blink.gif

I didn't know there was a standards body for PUAs, what's the ISO number? tongue.gif and, I didn't claim any PUAness also dry.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jun 20 2009, 04:18 PM)
blink.gif PUA classification? blink.gif

I didn't know there was a standards body for PUAs, what's the ISO number? tongue.gif and, I didn't claim any PUAness also dry.gif
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The title of the the Thread is "How to get the girl you want" But i do not see even One mention of the known guru's... Ti's sad ya'all...
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Hmmm... I think that pink panther fellow , Was referring to the categories of Pick up artists , as extolled in the book THE GAME. If I am not mistaken , the vast amount of online material available on the internet point towards the following classes.

1. AFC (Average Frustrated Chump) or CHODE - This is the category of the so called NICE GUY , The passive man who is overwhelmed with emotion and unable to think properly.

2. rAFC - Recovering AFC - Someone who has taken steps to improve his GAME (The series of actions that leads you to get the women most probably sexually). This process is achieved by doing regular SARGES ( the act of going out and randomly talking to women until a comfortable state is achieved enabling you to lead the interaction).

3. PUA (pick up Artist) or DJ (Don Juan) as categorized by the website www.sosuave.net - Apparently this is the goal of all who enter this path. Note that the PUA is a stark difference from the player (also referred to as a social dildo for obvious) reasons.

4. mPUA Maser PUA or mdj (Master DJ) - These are the gurus , who have had scores of sexual relationships and have engaged in all the known perversions of sex.

On a personal level after going through the book entitled "Revelation" by the mPUA Mystery... I can see that the whole theory behind pua'ing is actually Glorified Self Improvement...

Unfortunately this information has been used negatively.

Hope this clears up this issue...

xmsa666 I think they are just unaware of this.

NOTE - I didnt know that this forum allows profanities and strong language.

Peace

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Hmmm... I think that pink panther fellow , Was referring to the categories of Pick up artists , as extolled in the book THE GAME. If I am not mistaken , the vast amount of online material available on the internet point towards the following classes.

1. AFC (Average Frustrated Chump) or CHODE - This is the category of the so called NICE GUY , The passive man who is overwhelmed with emotion and unable to think properly.

2. rAFC - Recovering AFC - Someone who has taken steps to improve his GAME (The series of actions that leads you to get the women most probably sexually). This process is achieved by doing regular SARGES ( the act of going out and randomly talking to women until a comfortable state is achieved enabling you to lead the interaction).

3. PUA (pick up Artist) or DJ (Don Juan) as categorized by the website www.sosuave.net - Apparently this is the goal of all who enter this path. Note that the PUA is a stark difference from the player (also referred to as a social dildo for obvious) reasons.

4. mPUA Maser PUA or mdj (Master DJ) - These are the gurus , who have had scores of sexual relationships and have engaged in all the known perversions of sex.

On a personal level after going through the book entitled "Revelation" by the mPUA Mystery... I can see that the whole theory behind pua'ing is actually Glorified Self Improvement...

Unfortunately this information has been used negatively.

Hope this clears up this issue...

xmsa666 I think they are just unaware of this.

NOTE - I didnt know that this forum allows profanities and strong language.

Peace
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I and many others here know what PUA materials teach, many however get lost in its "glory". Read the first few pages, there was a quick and concise discussion on it.

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QUOTE(Pharoh @ Jun 28 2009, 01:12 AM)
Hmmm... I think that pink panther fellow , Was referring to the categories of Pick up artists , as extolled in the book THE GAME. If I am not mistaken , the vastly online material available on the internet point towards the following classes.

1. AFC (Average Frustrated Chump) or CHODE - This is the category of the so called NICE GUY , The passive man who is overwhelmed with emotion and unable to think properly.

2. rAFC - Recovering AFC - Someone who has taken steps to improve his GAME (The series of actions that leads you to get the women most probably sexually). This process is achieved by doing regular SARGES ( the act of going out and randomly talking to women until a comfortable state is achieved enabling you to lead the interaction).

3. PUA (pick up Artist) or DJ (Don Juan) as categorized by the website www.sosuave.net - Apparently this is the goal of all who enter this path. Note that the PUA is a stark difference from the player (also referred to as a social dildo for obvious) reasons.

4. mPUA Maser PUA or mdj (Master DJ) - These are the gurus , who have had scores of sexual relationships and have engaged in all the known perversions of sex.

On a personal level after going through the book entitled "Revelation" by the mPUA Mystery... I can see that the whole theory behind pua'ing is actually Glorified Self Improvement...

Unfortunately this information has been used negatively.

Hope this clears up this issue...

xmsa666 I think they are just unaware of this.

NOTE - I didnt know that thsi forum allows profanities and strong language.

Peace
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The abbreviations you've just educated us about are in themselves quite profane. The terms "AFC" and "chode" are used to devalue men who are not necessarily unpopular with women, but who merely do not share the thinking and social behavior of these self proclaimed "gurus" and pick-up artists.

Although being unable to attract women can be a devastating handicap to a man's life, the ability to bed women is not the mark or measure of a man's character.

Self-proclaimed gurus like Neil Strauss, Mystery, Ross Jeffries, David de Angelo and Tyler Durden were fully committed to the selling of their ideas and methods, not necessarily to teaching men to truly better themselves.

Insider information and leaked accounts of their conduct also reveal a worse than Machiavellian willingness to mislead and use other people for their own selfish purposes, at the expense of the other.

It isn't an accident that although there are many exceptions, most of their students are dogmatic and rigid and inflexible in their thinking. Certain pathological thoughts and memes are almost certainly transmitted, as well, e.g the popular use of words like "chode" to devalue other men, a strong pre-occupation with the notions of power and social prestige without any of the responsibility, social inflexibility, and a willingness to misrepresent the self or outright lie for the sake of getting "*****". Do you not find this a waste of the human potential?

I will add a qualifier that a lot of these negative traits are already very prevalent in the general population, and may be indicative of the way men have been socialised by general society to perceive virtue and the world in general. Even so, a community that is altruistic in nature and committed to the betterment of men should at least aspire for better.

The book "The Game" is seldom critically reviewed or discussed by people within the "community". Many newbies who read it are fascinated by the idea of using simple methods to turn their very lives around, finally making them attractive to women, finally being that guy living the life they always wanted but did not know how to. They become fascinated with the concept of "opinion openers" and other techniques and they read of the scandals and pitfalls with morbid fascination... but they in the end decide to turn to these very same methods outlined in the book without having the foresight that an adoption of these ideas would in the end lead them down the same path. Most are also unable to discern the misrepresentations, omissions and outright lies in the book. Do you not find this tragic?

The big picture is very important.

While the seduction community can and should be criticised for its failures and weaknesses, it must also be given credit where it is due, and in this, the seduction community must be given much credit. Before the community, men learned how to be men via observing social roles and observing their peers.

What does it mean when MILLIONS of men worldwide come to one realisation at various points of their lives: that they do not understand anything about a thing so important to their own lives, that the very beliefs and things they have been programmed to believe in are wrong and lead them to ruin, that compared to others they are somehow "lacking" and in many cases, even deeply flawed?

It speaks of a dis-enfranchisement on a scale that confounds the mind, and of a dis-empowerment that is so total in its de-humanisation, of an objectification so complete because it reduces and subordinates the value of individual men to their usefulness to "others", that until the purposes of the "others" are served, the man shall not even have the most basic requirement of physical and emotional intimacy and closeness that allows most human beings to truly thrive and prosper.

The internet became a platform for men to cross huge geographical divides and exchange their ideas, experiences and stories. Men can be divided by a million ideas and even personality traits, but we do share common concerns and common hurts that are unique to those born male. The search for sexual and emotional intimacy is one aspect that is almost universal because there is an almost clear dividing line between the haves and the have nots. The seduction community represents our most common failures and weaknesses, but it also represents our desire and willingness to become happier and more fulfilled. The gurus do not "own" the community, despite their level best attempts to do so. They are but small cogs in a great wheel, they are puny in stature and next to nothing to the very forces that control our world.

I support Silverhawk's thread (and vehemently object to the inclusion of PUA drivel) because it is superior and more complete than a lot of technique and ideological based systems many PUA marketers have developed. This thread is perhaps undeveloped, but then again, not a lot of quality questions have been asked. Those that have been asked, you will note, have been answered.


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Well firstly I would like to apologize to SilverBird for cluttering up this thread , that was not intentional , i understand posts with no relevancy to the topic should be removed. Anyway.

Well D1cky , I never imagined that you are capable of good speech , Sure you might be a little bit more wordy than necessary. However I appreciate your time to write such a lengthy and persuasive post , granted IMHO it is a bit subjective.

Pharoh , I think you opened up a can of worms.

My own investigation into this particular field of research has showed me that the information in itself can be used and manipulated according to your goal. Certainly those people who you have mentioned have set their goal as SCORING many points as possible , However they have showed the path , the path that can be traversed using your own judgment ( At this point I would like to say morality comes into play) ,

The books on this subject is filled with techniques and maneuvers , However if we investigate what is the source of them , you will find that it is the shift in your psychology , a new window and a new perspective to look at things. False understanding and obsessiveness over the highly addictive fruit , can often as D1cky has mentioned can lead to the loss of HUMAN POTENTIAL.

All I am saying is , this is a way , A window of hope to those who are buried in layers of misery and darkness with no one to turn , with no effective solution in sight. Do you actually think that the advise in a FORUM from people who have no clue about what they are saying has any use ? Absolutely not ?

So if this body of knowledge did not exist , then what would happen ? What is the solution ?

I am certain you can see that in all fairness , to condemn something that has been used negatively is not recommended action. Take the example of the internet , We all know the rise of the internet is due to the vast of amount of perversions available in them , That does not mean it is inherently bad.

Although I completely agree , that those who are involved in it do succumb to its vainglory , but that is of their own doing , And it is not the fault of the information. I am certain you can all see that.

So those who wish to seek this information , do so at your own risk.

No matter how much I myself love women , PHILANDERING is morally wrong and the cause of the troubles all over the world , INCLUDING MALAYSIA !!!




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^ *Just a placeholder before I write a rebuttal.*

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I really like wat the hawk wrote...but here is my prob, i never fell in love...but since two yrs, i am not certain bout one girl, i think i fell in love with her and i am not sure bout that....i try to avoid her and buat buat tak peduli her, when i wan to talk to her, i just like need to make myself brave first, and sometimes i not even dare to speak to her....i am really confused now....ADVICE? until now i oni talk to her one time....i am really..........dunno how to explain myself lar.... really dunno how our parents get together at the old time...........
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QUOTE(HW-12 @ Jul 4 2009, 06:56 PM)
I really like wat the hawk wrote...but here is my prob, i never fell in love...but since two yrs, i am not certain bout one girl, i think i fell in love with her and i am not sure bout that....i try to avoid her and buat buat tak peduli her, when i wan to talk to her, i just like need to make myself brave first, and sometimes i not even dare to speak to her....i am really confused  now....ADVICE? until now i oni talk to her one time....i am really..........dunno how to explain myself lar.... really dunno how our parents get together  at the old time...........
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she is a quiet girl... that is the prob....i really dunno this is an excuse or not...when i come near her... everything just go wrong
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she is a quiet girl... that is the prob....i really dunno this is an excuse or not...when i come near her... everything just go wrong
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woah..hoah nice catalyst for me to talk to her.. thanks a lot
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QUOTE(HW-12 @ Jul 4 2009, 06:56 PM)
I really like wat the hawk wrote...but here is my prob, i never fell in love...but since two yrs, i am not certain bout one girl, i think i fell in love with her and i am not sure bout that....i try to avoid her and buat buat tak peduli her, when i wan to talk to her, i just like need to make myself brave first, and sometimes i not even dare to speak to her....i am really confused  now....ADVICE? until now i oni talk to her one time....i am really..........dunno how to explain myself lar.... really dunno how our parents get together  at the old time...........
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Define a person with life and without a life threadstarter please enlightenment me .
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wat kind of tough medicine?
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The kind of tough medicine that will really answer the questions behind the questions you asked in this thread.

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hmm.gif is money is one of the factor to get a girl?? but i think money is very important to get a gf, coz no money no cinema with gf, no dinner with gf and also no many more....
most of my money is spent on my xbox and games

one more question, should a hardcore gamer who is still studying in form 6 has a gf???

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hmm.gif  is money is one of the factor to get a girl?? but i think money is very important to get a gf, coz no money no cinema with gf, no dinner with gf and also no many more....
most of my money is spent on my xbox and games

one more question, should a hardcore gamer who is still studying in form 6 has a gf???
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That is so darn true, some gals need to know that too not just the guys...

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The kind of tough medicine that will really answer the questions behind the questions you asked in this thread.
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If a guy wants to get a girl/girls, work on your self-esteem and confidence. If you cannot accept yourself, are you expecting others to? Once learned to be confident, girls will be attracted to you.
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If a guy wants to get a girl/girls, work on your self-esteem and confidence. If you cannot accept yourself, are you expecting others to? Once learned to be confident, girls will be attracted to you.
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This is of course the stock reply, but if you take a look at the contents of this forum, I would say that a lot of guys here have problems not because they lack confidence or self-esteem, but because they willingly take on the role of the serf.
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This is of course the stock reply, but if you take a look at the contents of this forum, I would say that a lot of guys here have problems not because they lack confidence or self-esteem, but because they willingly take on the role of the serf.
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In fact I think it displeases anybody who has ever fought against slavery. rclxub.gif

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I know that this displeases Sun Yat Sen, Mao Zedong and Abraham Lincoln.  rclxub.gif

In fact I think it displeases anybody who has ever fought against slavery.  rclxub.gif
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From memory, something that goes thus:

"He who wishes to be understood strives for clarity. He who wishes to appear wise strives for obscurity. For the masses are a timid and fearful lot. If the water is murky so they cannot see the bottom they will assume that it is deep."


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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Jul 11 2009, 04:22 AM)
From memory, something that goes thus:

"He who wishes to be understood strives for clarity. He who wishes to appear wise strives for obscurity. For the masses are a timid and fearful lot. If the water is murky so they cannot see the bottom they will assume that it is deep."

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jul 10 2009, 04:20 PM)
They are confidently a serf
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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Jul 11 2009, 07:16 AM)
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People without standards have no self-worth. Someone without self-worth has no life. A person without a life, has nothing to share with others. No one wants a lifeless git as a partner.

So set some standards, get some self-worth, get a life, and then you'll be able to get someone.


Best advice ever. I'd like to elaborate on it if I may.

I think most people get stuck in the frame of: "If I could only meet the right man/woman, then my life would have meaning, I would be complete."

If you are single now, and your life does not have meaning now, then adding a relationship is not going to help. It's like putting a brick on top of a house of cards.

Only way to have a happy life is to develop one for yourself 1st, then invite others to come share it with you...which is very hard IMO. Hard because 99% of the time, they turn out to be doing what you used to do before...ie looking for someone to "complete them" or relies on you for validation and self worth. People like this end up draining away all of that energy that you've worked so hard to build up, and leaving you exhausted and frustrated. Which circles us back to standards again =P

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QUOTE(kilojoule @ Jul 20 2009, 09:28 AM)
Best advice ever. I'd like to elaborate on it if I may.

I think most people get stuck in the frame of: "If I could only meet the right man/woman, then my life would have meaning, I would be complete."

If you are single now, and your life does not have meaning now, then adding a relationship is not going to help. It's like putting a brick on top of a house of cards.


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Only way to have a happy life is to develop one for yourself 1st, then invite others to come share it with you...which is very hard IMO. Hard because 99% of the time, they turn out to be doing what you used to do before...ie looking for someone to "complete them" or relies on you for validation and self worth. People like this end up draining away all of that energy that you've worked so hard to build up, and leaving you exhausted and frustrated. Which circles us back to standards again =P
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There are many topics here of guys whining about being rejected(no matter the reason) and then there are topics where people attempt to teach a guy how to be attractive to women. Despite how these 2 types seem different, they both share a fundamental problem. What is that problem? well let me share it with you...

They have no standards of their own

What does this mean? Well, I'll explain. To reach the widest audience possible, I'll prepare a wall of text assault and a tl;dr version tongue.gif Enjoy smile.gif

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Wall of text Assault (I'm a RWIer... you've been warned tongue.gif)
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I could probably write this better, but meh its 5am tongue.gif
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if anybody r interested in the root cause of fundamental problem, u may refer to Love Shyness and http://www.love-shy.com/Gilmartin/toc.html

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if anybody r interested in the root cause of fundamental problem, u may refer to Love Shyness and http://www.love-shy.com/Gilmartin/toc.html
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With all due respect, "love shyness" and not having standards of your own are two very different things.

I will state for the record that I am suspicious about the whole terminology of "love shyness". It looks very dubious to me. In addition, for a man to describe himself as "love shy" is un-masculine and borders on neuterdom.

Also consider what good does such a broad diagnosis do? Now that the problem has been diagnosed, what are the solutions?

You should know that there are millions of men out there who have overcome various specific anxieties to lead fulfilling lives, even in the area of sexuality, love and relationships. Can the same be said of the people who consider themselves "love shy"?
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Reading all the post from 1 to the last really gives me a bright idea.

Thanks for those who post good stuff in this thread. thumbup.gif
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Reading all the post from 1 to the last really gives me a bright idea.

Thanks for those who post good stuff in this thread.  thumbup.gif
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Well, after all those talks, mostly debates... some ideas just come and knock the door. Mostly comes from your long lecture... hahaha. Kinda confusing reading thou, but still I do get the whole idea. That's why it's worth to read someone's argument and debate. That's all i guess. nod.gif
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ermmmm~~
would u mind sharing ur idea ? XD
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Who's idea? blink.gif

There are so many ideas around. haha... afraid to share mine. blush.gif

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theres only 1 way to get the person u like..


and i mean 1 !! really...

DO SOMETHING!

if u dont do something, nothing will happen. smile.gif

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theres only 1 way to get the person u like..
and i mean 1 !! really...

DO SOMETHING!

if u dont do something, nothing will happen. smile.gif
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This is not very helpful.

Doing something and taking the first step is the utmost basic requirement from which everything else comes from.

Just doing "something" is however not the entirety or be all and end all of the matter.

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Jul 25 2009, 09:09 PM)
This is not very helpful.

Doing something and taking the first step is the utmost basic requirement from which everything else comes from.

Just doing "something" is however not the entirety or be all and end all of the matter.
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In that case I believe I have ended up in Afghanistan before finding my way home rclxub.gif

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correct me if I am wrong >> from what I understand of the first post, that I as a guy in order to get the girl that I want, I must firmly remain being myself, firmly remain who I am, and (or) firmly remain what I am, with absolutely no compromise? >> for example, I should continue being the quiet guy, continue being the self-sufficient guy, continue being the self-centered guy, continue being the anti-social guy, continue being the guy who is only interested in his own things, and continue being the guy who is only interested in certain types of people >> because that is who I am, because I am like that, because that is what I am, and because that is me by nature in an unpretentious manner?? >> from what I understand of the first post once again, that I should NOT attempt to try to change or alter myself and my character/personality in order to try to get/tailor-suit myself to the girl that I want?

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correct me if I am wrong >> from what I understand of the first post, that I as a guy in order to get the girl that I want, I must firmly remain being myself, firmly remain who I am, and (or) firmly remain what I am, with absolutely no compromise? >> for example, I should continue being the quiet guy, continue being the self-sufficient guy, continue being the self-centered guy, continue being the anti-social guy, continue being the guy who is only interested in his own things, and continue being the guy who is only interested in certain types of people >> because that is who I am, because I am like that, because that is what I am, and because that is me by nature in an unpretentious manner?? >> from what I understand of the first post once again, that I should NOT attempt to try to change or alter myself and my character in order to try to get/tailor-suit myself to the girl that I want?
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A lot of people need to improve, a lot of people need to change. Many do not, because it takes them out of their comfort zone. You have to find out, what kind of person you are, what you want from life, what you need in life, and where you want your life to lead. When you've figured this out, you can start to achieve your goals step by step.

Majority of the people out there do not think like this. They don't do a proper self-reflection, they don't try to learn about who they are and what they can be. Instead, they look at others to validate themselves, which is generally destructive.

Whatever path you choose, will have its pros/cons. You want to be the anti-social guy even after a lot of self-reflection and thought. That is fine, but you will have to live with the consequences it carries. Likewise, if you want to go around humping every "kitty" you can, it comes with its own consequences as well. Being happy with who you are means you fully accepts the consequences of your choice and actions because you know that is how things will be.


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If and only if you're happy with who you are.

A lot of people need to improve, a lot of people need to change. Many do not, because it takes them out of their comfort zone. You have to find out, what kind of person you are, what you want from life, what you need in life, and where you want your life to lead. When you've figured this out, you can start to achieve your goals step by step.

Majority of the people out there do not think like this. They don't do a proper self-reflection, they don't try to learn about who they are and what they can be. Instead, they look at others to validate themselves, which is generally destructive.

Whatever path you choose, will have its pros/cons. You want to be the anti-social guy even after a lot of self-reflection and thought. That is fine, but you will have to live with the consequences it carries. Likewise, if you want to go around humping every "kitty" you can, it comes with its own consequences as well. Being happy with who you are means you fully accepts the consequences of your choice and actions because you know that is how things will be.
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That is good to hear. smile.gif

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Thank you very much for your profound respond.

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correct me if I am wrong >> from what I understand of the first post, that I as a guy in order to get the girl that I want, I must firmly remain being myself, firmly remain who I am, and (or) firmly remain what I am, with absolutely no compromise? >> for example, I should continue being the quiet guy, continue being the self-sufficient guy, continue being the self-centered guy, continue being the anti-social guy, continue being the guy who is only interested in his own things, and continue being the guy who is only interested in certain types of people >> because that is who I am, because I am like that, because that is what I am, and because that is me by nature in an unpretentious manner?? >> from what I understand of the first post once again, that I should NOT attempt to try to change or alter myself and my character/personality in order to try to get/tailor-suit myself to the girl that I want?
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People change. The concept of the self changes invariably through the experiences a person lives through.

There is no such thing as a man or woman who is the same as before and will be the same in the future.

A lot of people measure themselves as who they are in the present. Who they are now, who they were before, is who they will always be. This is not true.

Perhaps if people understood the fact that nothing stays the same, not even themselves, then they would endeavor to steer their own destinies more, even if just in small, little ways.

Having standards includes having standards for yourself. There's always little things (if not big things) that a person can do to improve his abilities or quality of life or depth of experience.

If people thought like that, then the drive for positive change and dynamism would be as natural as breathing, as opposed to the ever prevalent need for comfort and the familiar.


Added on August 1, 2009, 5:53 amWhen life isn't fair, sometimes you gotta grow a pair...



Never compromise on your wants and needs, never apologise for your desires.

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I am basically trying to "so call improve myself" by being determine to "open up my mind in this respect" to learn some social skills as in "people dealing skills", "communication skills", and "interaction skills" as such... However, to be honest, it is (and it has been) an "uphill battle" for me as I am "simply just not" that type of person... hmm.gif But right now, my parents are placing an extreme amount of emphasis into my head on "Social Skills", "People Dealing Skills", "People Interaction Skills", and "Communication Skills" etc as such... They think that I am "Seriously Lacking" in this aspect, thus I MUST "Bark-Up" in this area... icon_question.gif (Yeah, that is what my parents think.)

So right now I am just trying to 'Improve' myself in this area/aspect. smile.gif Hmmm..., does this go against the theory/advice/suggestion (of this topic)?

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QUOTE(L33T_73 @ Aug 1 2009, 04:51 PM)
I am basically trying to "so call improve myself" by being determine to "open up my mind in this respect" to learn some social skills as in "people dealing skills", "communication skills", and "interaction skills" as such... However, to be honest, it is (and it has been) an "uphill battle" for me as I am "simply just not" that type of person... hmm.gif But right now, my parents are placing an extreme amount of emphasis into my head on "Social Skills", "People Dealing Skills", "People Interaction Skills", and "Communication Skills" etc as such... They think that I am "Seriously Lacking" in this aspect, thus I MUST "Bark-Up" in this area... icon_question.gif (Yeah, that is what my parents think.)

So right now I am just trying to 'Improve' myself in this area/aspect. smile.gif Hmmm..., does this go against the theory/advice/suggestion (of this topic)?
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We are social creatures, so social skills are important.

You have to look deep into yourself and decide why is it you're anti-social. Is it because you're insecure? Is it because you're depressed? Is it because you're afraid of what people think of you? There could be a myriad number of reasons, but you will have to find out what it is.

Types are not fixed. A person can change his self or life direction at any time as he discovers new things about himself and his environment. People change, people grow, but you have to be open to such changes and see if they fit who you are. Changes don't happen overnight.

In respect to your social learnings, I suggest you remove all expectations from it. Rather than do it because "it is good for you", try to enjoy the interactions for what it is. You may find that slowly and naturally you become more social. Everyone has their own "style", find yours.
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QUOTE(L33T_73 @ Aug 1 2009, 04:51 PM)
I am basically trying to "so call improve myself" by being determine to "open up my mind in this respect" to learn some social skills as in "people dealing skills", "communication skills", and "interaction skills" as such... However, to be honest, it is (and it has been) an "uphill battle" for me as I am "simply just not" that type of person... hmm.gif But right now, my parents are placing an extreme amount of emphasis into my head on "Social Skills", "People Dealing Skills", "People Interaction Skills", and "Communication Skills" etc as such... They think that I am "Seriously Lacking" in this aspect, thus I MUST "Bark-Up" in this area... icon_question.gif (Yeah, that is what my parents think.)

So right now I am just trying to 'Improve' myself in this area/aspect. smile.gif Hmmm..., does this go against the theory/advice/suggestion (of this topic)?
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It does not go against the theory/advice/suggestions in this topic at all. smile.gif

I've spoken to a few introverts, most of them older, and they do tell me that learning social skills and even extroverted traits has actually helped them in many ways, even though they still prefer their own company and privacy most of the time. nod.gif

These were men and women who pretty much had no parental or peer guidance in this area, so they had to learn and discover the importance of this need and ability for themselves.

Hmm, I'm curious though. How exactly are you learning social skills at the moment? hmm.gif
Which areas are you perceived to lack, and how are you addressing this?

P.S: Btw, I pretty much agree with everything that Silverhawk said on the matter.

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Aug 1 2009, 05:21 PM)
We are social creatures, so social skills are important.

You have to look deep into yourself and decide why is it you're anti-social. Is it because you're insecure? Is it because you're depressed? Is it because you're afraid of what people think of you? There could be a myriad number of reasons, but you will have to find out what it is.

Types are not fixed. A person can change his self or life direction at any time as he discovers new things about himself and his environment. People change, people grow, but you have to be open to such changes and see if they fit who you are. Changes don't happen overnight.

In respect to your social learnings, I suggest you remove all expectations from it. Rather than do it because "it is good for you", try to enjoy the interactions for what it is. You may find that slowly and naturally you become more social. Everyone has their own "style", find yours.
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perhaps the most obvious reason as to why I am rather anti-social today is in the following story >>

I used to be a social-beast last time, and that trait continued all the way into high-school... I made a lot of friends and have always liked to make friends and have friends... in fact, I was among the most popular of all in high school, among my peers and teachers and all... I placed priority on making friends and establishing relationships with them... well, it all went on that way until toward the end of my high school life...... where EVERYTHING played me out in the following order >>

NO. 1: I have seriously neglected my studies and have been sacrificing it all to all of my heavy socializing activities... (I have also been playing too much with my friends and all...)

NO. 2: I was seriously prank-ed at, made fun of, mocked at, jeered at, socially discriminated, and all toward the very last minute of my high-school life... Probably my friends were already getting fed up of me for being too popular among everyone else in the school (including being favoured and used as a good example by the teachers) and being a popular, humorous, and entertaining character to the girls and all... (Yup, my guy friends all started to gather together in unity to conspire against me; they wanted me OUT.) >> Thankfully I was still alive when I left high-school for higher-education later-on... (Which is where I am at present.)

The bottom-line, I have been bitten by it before, thus now I am very weary/careful of it all... At the stage of higher-education, I made myself very determine to focus on my studies very seriously this time, no more being the social beast, no more placing priority on making friends (to get into trouble again), to be serious, to be proper, to be attentive, and to stay out of trouble. >> So this is what I am today: Quiet and cautious of my surroundings..., to learn to listen more and talk less, to think before I speak (lest I offend people), to pay attention to the lectures, to avoid getting too involved (or at all) in activities not concerning my studies/education, to be on the safe side, to stay out of trouble, to avoid trouble, etc... As such... << (So all of these is where I am today, at present, currently...)

Anyway, I am getting very distracted by girls in higher-education at this very moment... Where the situation seems to demand that I become sociable with good people dealing skills and such... (yet I feel that I am not/no-longer that type/kind of person now.)

Right now, basically what I am doing is to "Stick to my Guns" and be "who I am/what I am" today. (On the other hand, I am also secretly working on my people-dealing skills inside - which is improved over and different from the version I had during high-school.)

You may be wondering why should I be having any problems in socializing and dealing with girls or anybody today, if I had been such a social beast during high-school:

The answers;

Firstly, I only impressed girls during high-school through my character, but never learned how to get into friendship nor relationship with any. TODAY, if I want girlfriend, I will have to LEARN how to get into friendship or relationship with girls (correct me if I am wrong).

Secondly, my high school social life caused so much consequences (racked so mush havoc) to my studies, and lead to such a bad - nasty ending that it has made me weary, careful, and cautious of socializing in college/university; the unpleasant - unforgettable event/experience and consequences of my social experience & social life during high-school has literally changed/alter my beeing and mindset. (It has basically taught me what to do, and what NOT to do; in higher-education life.)

Hence I am "somewhat" anti-social today at higher-education. (It is because of all those that has happened to me.)

I am basically now "Re-Learning" how to socialize, how to deal with people, how to interact with people, how to communicate with people etc as such, and (finally something new) how to get into friendship and relationship with girls. biggrin.gif

BTW, I am really learning a lot from this topic/thread.

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Aug 1 2009, 06:28 PM)
It does not go against the theory/advice/suggestions in this topic at all.  smile.gif

I've spoken to a few introverts, most of them older, and they do tell me that learning social skills and even extroverted traits has actually helped them in many ways, even though they still prefer their own company and privacy most of the time.  nod.gif

These were men and women who pretty much had no parental or peer guidance in this area, so they had to learn and discover the importance of this need and ability for themselves. 

Hmm, I'm curious though. How exactly are you learning social skills at the moment?  hmm.gif
Which areas are you perceived to lack, and how are you addressing this?

P.S: Btw, I pretty much agree with everything that Silverhawk said on the matter.
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Thanks a lot.

Right now, basically, I am trying to learn and improve my social skills by "Opening up my mind and myself" to others out there (especially those in my institution such as my lecturers and group-members) and just try to talk to them, discuss with them, and (or) get involve etc... as such... (sometimes it requires a bit of effort, and it is that little bit of effort that I must be willing to ignite.) Very soon, it would be happening naturally and spontaneously!! thumbup.gif (Then it is no longer a problem.)

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QUOTE(L33T_73 @ Aug 1 2009, 07:29 PM)
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Sucks to be treated as such by people who you would call friends. Still, its now obvious the social problems you have are due to fear, and not because its part of your character. You went from being too social to too anti-social. One extreme to the other. You need to find a balance, too much of anything isn't good for you.



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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Aug 1 2009, 07:53 PM)
Sucks to be treated as such by people who you would call friends. Still, its now obvious the social problems you have are due to fear, and not because its part of your character. You went from being too social to too anti-social. One extreme to the other. You need to find a balance, too much of anything isn't good for you.
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I agree, that is why I am trying to strike a balance today; by trying to be more sociable.
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G`luck mate smile.gif Hope life takes a turn for the better for you.
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Leet 73, I think that you're on the right path. What you experienced in high school must definitely have been quite a shocker.

The most important thing is not to let that get you down. If those friends of yours had malicious intent, then their intention would be to forever change you in such a way.

I pretty much agree with everything Silverhawk has said but I'd like to add two more things:

1. Learn how to be a good judge of character. Not all people are equal, in character at least. The unworthy are not deserving of friendship.

2. It's more fun socialising when you're participating in an activity you like! When a group of people have a similar passion and interest then it becomes much easier to socialise. Who knows you might even make real friends! So go join an activity you're really interested in and talk to the people there. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Aug 3 2009, 02:05 PM)
Leet 73, I think that you're on the right path. What you experienced in high school must definitely have been quite a shocker.

The most important thing is not to let that get you down. If those friends of yours had malicious intent, then their intention would be to forever change you in such a way.

I pretty much agree with everything Silverhawk has said but I'd like to add two more things:

1. Learn how to be a good judge of character. Not all people are equal, in character at least. The unworthy are not deserving of friendship.

2. It's more fun socialising when you're participating in an activity you like! When a group of people have a similar passion and interest then it becomes much easier to socialise. Who knows you might even make real friends! So go join an activity you're really interested in and talk to the people there.  laugh.gif

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Somehow my coursemates all damn passive one lo. I love sports. They don't even want to walk to the sports complex. Hence my passion for sports died on the spot. Along with a lot of other stuffs. Sad.

I don't feel like doing all of these stuffs alone tho. Now I will la, no choice I want to break free from this shithole.
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 3 2009, 02:43 PM)
Somehow my coursemates all damn passive one lo. I love sports. They don't even want to walk to the sports complex. Hence my passion for sports died on the spot. Along with a lot of other stuffs. Sad.

I don't feel like doing all of these stuffs alone tho. Now I will la, no choice I want to break free from this shithole.
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Don't let driveless eunuchs affect you like that. Good choice to break free from their shithole clutches.

Try posting notices and meeting people at the sports complex itself? Who knows, if the staff there are friendly they might even help you out to find a team or summat. Then you no need to be alone oredi. nod.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 8 2009, 05:08 AM)
There are many topics here of guys whining about being rejected(no matter the reason) and then there are topics where people attempt to teach a guy how to be attractive to women. Despite how these 2 types seem different, they both share a fundamental problem. What is that problem? well let me share it with you...

They have no standards of their own

What does this mean? Well, I'll explain. To reach the widest audience possible, I'll prepare a wall of text assault and a tl;dr version tongue.gif Enjoy smile.gif

tl;dr
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Wall of text Assault (I'm a RWIer... you've been warned tongue.gif)
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I could probably write this better, but meh its 5am tongue.gif
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For what it's worth, +1. Short, concise and to the point.
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people cant change. theres science in it. its in the BLOOD. GENES. DNA. CHARACTER. what u are at 3yrold is what u'll be at 80-chinese proverb.

the so-called 'change' is just being pretentious. admit it. Dont try to change for anyone. just be urself
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QUOTE(C-Note @ Aug 10 2009, 12:29 AM)
people cant change. theres science in it. its in the BLOOD. GENES. DNA. CHARACTER.  what u are at 3yrold is what u'll be at 80-chinese proverb.

the so-called 'change' is just being pretentious. admit it. Dont try to change for anyone. just be urself
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Did somebody say genes and DNA?

Well, the environment affects GENETIC EXPRESSION.

People owe it to themselves to put themselves in dynamic environments and situations where they can bring out the best of themselves through experience and learning.

A man or woman does this, they'll get very far in life compared to a chode that doesn't do squat except "be himself".

The latter probably ends up as an aged video game nerd who lost his virginity to a hooker.
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QUOTE(C-Note @ Aug 10 2009, 12:29 AM)
people cant change. theres science in it. its in the BLOOD. GENES. DNA. CHARACTER.  what u are at 3yrold is what u'll be at 80-chinese proverb.

the so-called 'change' is just being pretentious. admit it. Dont try to change for anyone. just be urself
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You're discounting that experiences can change a person a lot as it gives them different perspectives which they may not have seen before.

People can and do change, whether its for better/worse only they will know.
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Anyway,just read the first post again.

Great thread,hawks.

Thanks. smile.gif
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Here's a short video I found very inspiring, that happens to be relevant to the topic at hand



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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Aug 13 2009, 04:08 PM)
Here's a short video I found very inspiring, that happens to be relevant to the topic at hand
nice vid smile.gif
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QUOTE(C-Note @ Aug 10 2009, 12:29 AM)
people cant change. theres science in it. its in the BLOOD. GENES. DNA. CHARACTER.  what u are at 3yrold is what u'll be at 80-chinese proverb.

the so-called 'change' is just being pretentious. admit it. Dont try to change for anyone. just be urself
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People can change, only if they want to. The reason why people do not change it is because they have yet to come to the realization that there is something not entirely right or good with them. If they constantly have this mentality of "Hey, I'm good, I am alright. Things are going well" then there isn't a reason to change, thus there is no petrol to the engine, and no motion.

I am a walking, talking and breathing example of a PC game nerd. Whatever stereotypes you've read and heard about gamers, I represented them all too well. This was a few years back. Along the way, somethings happened and some didn't that propagated me to change.
I'll not lie and say that the old self has completely gone, some remnants and traits are around and it is a conscious effort to battle them.
As much as I type this without trying to boast, enough people have told me and commented that I did change from worse to better - not exceptionally good, but getting there smile.gif

A person who says "I can't change. I am born like this" is in actual fact just lazy and complacent, wanting to blame circumstances rather than to take personal responsibilities for personal actions and well being. You know it's true. It is human nature to always blame everyone and everything around them for all the wrongs, all the frustrations and disappointments - never once looking at oneself and think "Hey, maybe all this was because I made some poor choices which resulted in undesired circumstances"



QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Aug 13 2009, 04:08 PM)
Here's a short video I found very inspiring, that happens to be relevant to the topic at hand
Awesome video Dickson =]

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QUOTE(Tatsumaki @ Aug 14 2009, 02:57 PM)
A person who says "I can't change. I am born like this" is in actual fact just lazy and complacent, wanting to blame circumstances rather than to take personal responsibilities for personal actions and well being. You know it's true. It is human nature to always blame everyone and everything around them for all the wrongs, all the frustrations and disappointments - never once looking at oneself and think "Hey, maybe all this was because I made some poor choices which resulted in undesired circumstances"
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QUOTE(Tatsumaki @ Aug 14 2009, 02:57 PM)
People can change, only if they want to. The reason why people do not change it is because they have yet to come to the realization that there is something not entirely right or good with them. If they constantly have this mentality of "Hey, I'm good, I am alright. Things are going well" then there isn't a reason to change, thus there is no petrol to the engine, and no motion.

I am a walking, talking and breathing example of a PC game nerd. Whatever stereotypes you've read and heard about gamers, I represented them all too well. This was a few years back. Along the way, somethings happened and some didn't that propagated me to change.
I'll not lie and say that the old self has completely gone, some remnants and traits are around and it is a conscious effort to battle them.
As much as I type this without trying to boast, enough people have told me and commented that I did change from worse to better - not exceptionally good, but getting there  smile.gif

A person who says "I can't change. I am born like this" is in actual fact just lazy and complacent, wanting to blame circumstances rather than to take personal responsibilities for personal actions and well being. You know it's true. It is human nature to always blame everyone and everything around them for all the wrongs, all the frustrations and disappointments - never once looking at oneself and think "Hey, maybe all this was because I made some poor choices which resulted in undesired circumstances"
Awesome video Dickson =]
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All my sifu , i need help right here.....
Last few months i have ask u guys bout how to get to a gal that i like... i did it..........

but now the prob is that i am confused.... mmm confused of the way to woo her lar.... some of my frens told me to be woo her slowly.... i do agree

but somehow i send all the signals that has indirect " I LOVE U" message to her, and i also find a thousand of reasons to go to her class to talk to her or anything... but i still feel that she is reacting normal to me (just treat me as a fren)... i start to get closer to her for 2 weeks oni......now i regret that i did something that is obvious to woo her and now the whole skul know already, and she seems to b a little bit not comfortable with all the rumours.... i shouldn't do that.... cuz now she feel got a bit uneasy...
i already set up spy to know wat she feel bout me and i dunno will my spy turn my back and i also dunno whether the spy is effective in collecting data bout her or not... but till now still got no news frm the spy

i am not involve in any relationship b4

somehow i din tell her that i love her directly... now i really wan to tell her everything... my chest is too heavy already and can't control anymore.... i wan to tell her but i scared that i would scared her and my relation with her will become worse...

the holiday is coming this week and if i wan to tell her it would be this thursday...so that she can think properly this holiday

now all my sifu... give ur opinions bout my condition and

the main thing is should i tell her that i love her at this time
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^ Please start a new thread for this instead of cluttering up this one.
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I fall in love with girl that low standard than me but her look is high standard than me... what should I do?
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I fall in love with girl that low standard than me but her look is high standard than me... what should I do?
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doesnt look very good there,mate...
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I fall in love with girl that low standard than me but her look is high standard than me... what should I do?
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haha...did it really work
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Did u read the book? From my reading, all i can see is, it almost for a ppl who go to club. N they have specific approach on how to open. Still half way before i finish the book. But, they are very confident ppl. Almost feel no fear bout rejection. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(saksoba @ Sep 17 2009, 03:52 PM)
Did u read the book? From my reading, all i can see is, it almost for a ppl who go to club. N they have specific approach on how to open. Still half way before i finish the book. But, they are very confident ppl. Almost feel no fear bout rejection.  shakehead.gif
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That books is also for an overseas context, too.
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The first thing I want to make clear is this, do not chase girls or women around like a lost puppy. If you do you will find yourself getting rejected far more than you deserve. We as human beings can be a little weird at times, we generally dismiss things we can have easily and go after things that are harder get.

I do not want to go into psychology in a major way, but suffice is to say, that you and I both know that this is the case. Let's talk examples; I hope that I will be able to illustrate my point properly.

In terms of sales and marketing, if we were launching a new product it would be all about the message and presentation. Secondly, it is another well known fact, that the best sales people in the world with the worst product will always outsell the worst sales people in the world with the best product.

Why, you may ask? They know how to sell, the product is not important it is how they sell the product. To back up this point, how often have seen not so attractive guys - with very beautiful women? These guys know what to look for, they know how to communicate and more importantly they know what that person wants.

They simply do not get into a position where a girl would say, "You're not my type" If they did, they know how to reverse the roles, they reverse it by giving themselves more time to get it back on track. In a bar for example, they may answer this charge by saying, I understand, however do you know the band that is playing.

All they are basically doing is diffusing the rejection by not harping on it, she is saying this because she is uncomfortable and now you need to make her comfortable by not emphasizing the rejection or what she is uncomfortable about.

Let me make another point, it is generally understood, that when people say no, they are saying no based on what they have been presented or told up to that point, what you have to do is present it better and give more information. But you can never do this if she is uncomfortable.

I hope this makes sense to you, to put it simply, you have to sell yourself, you may get rejected initially but that is more than likely because you have not convinced them enough yet.

Guy's if you are serious about getting the girl of your dreams then you need to seriously work on solid techniques to achieve your goal. If you know what a girl is thinking it is far easier to approach her.

If You want to learn the tested psychological secrets of the female mind given to you by a woman because after all only a woman truly knows what a woman wants.

Wanna know what a woman wants/think? google is your best bud tongue.gif
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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Oct 17 2009, 01:23 AM)
The first thing I want to make clear is this, do not chase girls or women around like a lost puppy. If you do you will find yourself getting rejected far more than you deserve. We as human beings can be a little weird at times, we generally dismiss things we can have easily and go after things that are harder get.

I do not want to go into psychology in a major way, but suffice is to say, that you and I both know that this is the case. Let's talk examples; I hope that I will be able to illustrate my point properly.

In terms of sales and marketing, if we were launching a new product it would be all about the message and presentation. Secondly, it is another well known fact, that the best sales people in the world with the worst product will always outsell the worst sales people in the world with the best product.

Why, you may ask? They know how to sell, the product is not important it is how they sell the product. To back up this point, how often have seen not so attractive guys - with very beautiful women? These guys know what to look for, they know how to communicate and more importantly they know what that person wants.

They simply do not get into a position where a girl would say, "You're not my type" If they did, they know how to reverse the roles, they reverse it by giving themselves more time to get it back on track. In a bar for example, they may answer this charge by saying, I understand, however do you know the band that is playing.

All they are basically doing is diffusing the rejection by not harping on it, she is saying this because she is uncomfortable and now you need to make her comfortable by not emphasizing the rejection or what she is uncomfortable about.

Let me make another point, it is generally understood, that when people say no, they are saying no based on what they have been presented or told up to that point, what you have to do is present it better and give more information. But you can never do this if she is uncomfortable.

I hope this makes sense to you, to put it simply, you have to sell yourself, you may get rejected initially but that is more than likely because you have not convinced them enough yet.

Guy's if you are serious about getting the girl of your dreams then you need to seriously work on solid techniques to achieve your goal. If you know what a girl is thinking it is far easier to approach her.

If You want to learn the tested psychological secrets of the female mind given to you by a woman because after all only a woman truly knows what a woman wants.

Wanna know what a woman wants/think? google is your best bud tongue.gif
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This is in the realm of "techniques" which I did not want to touch, because I wanted to touch the fundamentals. If you want to sell your product, you have to know your product, if you don't know your product, you can't make a successful sales pitch smile.gif

Most people, don't know their product.
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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Oct 17 2009, 01:23 AM)
Wanna know what a woman wants/think? google is your best bud tongue.gif
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Oct 17 2009, 07:11 AM)
I have better options compare to google. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Oct 16 2009, 05:32 PM)


Most people, don't know their product.
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agreed in this thats y theres so many 'how to attract a girl' or 'why....' etc this kind of questions in CC =.=

QUOTE(peinsama @ Oct 16 2009, 11:11 PM)
I have better options compare to google. tongue.gif
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Yahoo? hahaha

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Stalkin boleh masuk penjara
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A woman point of views, a guy should have

Self respect, come on if the woman does not like you move on. Why waste time after someone who simply does not want you? They are million of women who will find you unique and attractive.

Move on to the next best thing.
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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Oct 17 2009, 01:23 AM)
The first thing I want to make clear is this, do not chase girls or women around like a lost puppy. If you do you will find yourself getting rejected far more than you deserve. We as human beings can be a little weird at times, we generally dismiss things we can have easily and go after things that are harder get.

I do not want to go into psychology in a major way, but suffice is to say, that you and I both know that this is the case. Let's talk examples; I hope that I will be able to illustrate my point properly.

In terms of sales and marketing, if we were launching a new product it would be all about the message and presentation. Secondly, it is another well known fact, that the best sales people in the world with the worst product will always outsell the worst sales people in the world with the best product.

Why, you may ask? They know how to sell, the product is not important it is how they sell the product. To back up this point, how often have seen not so attractive guys - with very beautiful women? These guys know what to look for, they know how to communicate and more importantly they know what that person wants.

They simply do not get into a position where a girl would say, "You're not my type" If they did, they know how to reverse the roles, they reverse it by giving themselves more time to get it back on track. In a bar for example, they may answer this charge by saying, I understand, however do you know the band that is playing.

All they are basically doing is diffusing the rejection by not harping on it, she is saying this because she is uncomfortable and now you need to make her comfortable by not emphasizing the rejection or what she is uncomfortable about.

Let me make another point, it is generally understood, that when people say no, they are saying no based on what they have been presented or told up to that point, what you have to do is present it better and give more information. But you can never do this if she is uncomfortable.

I hope this makes sense to you, to put it simply, you have to sell yourself, you may get rejected initially but that is more than likely because you have not convinced them enough yet.

Guy's if you are serious about getting the girl of your dreams then you need to seriously work on solid techniques to achieve your goal. If you know what a girl is thinking it is far easier to approach her.

If You want to learn the tested psychological secrets of the female mind given to you by a woman because after all only a woman truly knows what a woman wants.

Wanna know what a woman wants/think? google is your best bud tongue.gif
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I agree!

I am one of the best example. I am ugly like sh*t but still i manage to hang out with hot chicks who are models plus i can get them to my bed easily.

The rule here is:
1. Be yourself
2. Polite & gentle towards girls
3. Must be sweet & romantic
4. Never ever underestimate yourself (Be Confident)
5. Be creative when proposing to girls

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Apr 9 2009, 03:10 AM)
So all SilverHawk is trying to sum up here is this:

BELIEVE IN YOURSELF.

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it takes a strong person to do that because it is easy said but not easy to be done.
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seriously? check my case then. haha. anyone can advice me on my confident level !!
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There is only 1 rule, pursue persistently. If they accept then congratulations! If they reject, pester them or threathen in the worst case scenario. As long as you get her, all is well~
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How come no one open a thread: How to get the guy you want!, Yes, the secret is here??
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How come no one open a thread: How to get the guy you want!, Yes, the secret is here??
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Very easy, just show that you are interested. If you care for him, he will fall for you haha
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How come no one open a thread: How to get the guy you want!, Yes, the secret is here??
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maybe its easier to get guys then gals biggrin.gif
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I don't think so.
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I don't think so.
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Nov 11 2009, 02:11 AM)
Cause women don't like to compete laugh.gif
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Nov 10 2009, 02:27 AM)
How come no one open a thread: How to get the guy you want!, Yes, the secret is here??
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cause its not use. different individuals different case differs whatever you need to do. This thread ain;t gonna work for all girls either.

QUOTE(silverhawk @ Nov 10 2009, 06:11 PM)
Cause women don't like to compete laugh.gif
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Nov 11 2009, 03:55 AM)
So, so wrong.  laugh.gif
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Agreed w/ noob13. Pls, no compete = no fun d biggrin.gif
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Agreed w/ noob13. Pls, no compete = no fun d biggrin.gif
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But I like to compete.
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Write a guide for girls, titled "How to overcome acne".

I think some of them here need to read it.
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Write a guide for girls, titled "How to overcome acne".

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replying to the topic,

i think guys nowadays are too concerned about getting rejected..
kena reject kena reject la.. its not like its the end of the world!!

mayb guys should play hard to get??? be a little bit more mysterious.. get the girl wan to know us more.. crack a few jokes here and there..

how?!? like this can work bo? smile.gif
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QUOTE(squirro @ Nov 11 2009, 12:59 AM)
It is true, as long as you look attractive. You can score the guy you want ^^
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I seriously don't think so too, I mean its true that if a girl looks attractive its easier to get the guy you want, but it doesn't mean you can necessarily get the guy you want. As much as guys judge heavily on physical attraction, I still believe the girls attitude and intellectuality is an important aspect too. Unless, of course the guy is a shallow person who judges a girl completely by how she looks, then that's a different case la.
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haihz too many noobs.



Anyway have guys wonder why some guys can have like 13- 15 exs before meanwhile u dont have any where u see urself superior to him in every aspect.


i had this friend who some of my female friends are crazy over him .

always wonder why are these girls crazy over him where the same girls claim that i am way better looking than him or even financially i am better. But he kept having girls going after him . Even after these girls knew that he is currently having a gf. Or his past history on how he treated the girls but still these girls are still crazy over him.


these was long time ago.

A simple explanation for this scenario is THE METHOD. < still havent complete the book yet so if u really desperate or need help pls feel free to pm me .


consulatation is free but i will need the feed back. the methods are still under experiment







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QUOTE(akidos @ Nov 27 2009, 01:47 PM)
haihz too many noobs.
Anyway have guys wonder why some guys can have like 13- 15 exs before meanwhile u dont have any where u see urself superior to him in every aspect.
i had this friend who some of my female friends are crazy over him .

always wonder why are these girls crazy over him where the same girls claim that i am way better looking than him or even financially i am better. But he kept having girls going after him . Even after these girls knew that he is currently having a gf. Or his past history on how he treated the girls but still these girls are still crazy over him.
these was long time ago.

A simple explanation for this scenario is THE METHOD.  < still havent complete the book yet so if u really desperate or need help pls feel free to pm me .
consulatation is free but i will need the feed back. the methods are still under experiment
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So you are an author then?

How handsome are you?

QUOTE(akidos @ Nov 27 2009, 01:47 PM)
haihz too many noobs.
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Gentleman doesn't claim others as "noobs".

That's why all the gals go to your friend and NOT you, despite how handsome and how financially capable you are.

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QUOTE(akidos @ Nov 27 2009, 01:47 PM)
haihz too many noobs.
Anyway have guys wonder why some guys can have like 13- 15 exs before meanwhile u dont have any where u see urself superior to him in every aspect.
i had this friend who some of my female friends are crazy over him .

always wonder why are these girls crazy over him where the same girls claim that i am way better looking than him or even financially i am better. But he kept having girls going after him . Even after these girls knew that he is currently having a gf. Or his past history on how he treated the girls but still these girls are still crazy over him.
these was long time ago.

A simple explanation for this scenario is THE METHOD.  < still havent complete the book yet so if u really desperate or need help pls feel free to pm me .
consulatation is free but i will need the feed back. the methods are still under experiment
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Probably because you're like a poster, 2 dimensional without any depth laugh.gif
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Probably because you're like a poster, 2 dimensional without any depth laugh.gif
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Agreed, the fact that he just came here and called everyone noob and have to depend on a book to tell him what he needs to do....sigh. Even if u do get the girl, they will be no originality left. Real guys know how to stand by what and who they are
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Erm i need some advice or get some senses knock into me.

Well here goes, i am a very shy person or u could say passive. I wish u guys could tell me how to get to know girls. I have very few girl friends and i find it hard to be friends with girl. If this keeps on i don`t think i will be able to get a gf or perhaps be single forever.
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I wish u guys could tell me how to get to know girls.
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Talk to them.
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QUOTE(choas48 @ Dec 1 2009, 09:11 PM)
Erm i need some advice or get some senses knock into me.

Well here goes, i am a very shy person or u could say passive. I wish u guys could tell me how to get to know girls. I have very few girl friends and i find it hard to be friends with girl. If this keeps on i don`t think i will be able to get a gf or perhaps be single forever.
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Are you able to express yourself well? Because if you are, then just either work in settings you're comfortable in, or slowly expand the circles you are comfortable in.
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In what way u mean by expressing yourself?? As long there are girls i always be a bit uncomfortable.
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So many ebooks on dating online. Which one is the best? I`m interested to get one for my self improvement .Examples is David Angelo`s double dating, Magical

tactics and so on. There should be a review for these dating ebooks on lowyat forum.
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great ,agreed.
im a guy from penang who looks for standard always.
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Its very simple, just give every girl wants- be honest! and take action timely,
respect their siblings, support her among her friends, and lastly be prepare to trust her all times. Hope it helps.
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Its very simple, just give every girl wants- be honest! and take action timely,
respect their siblings, support her among her friends, and lastly be prepare to trust her all times. Hope it helps.
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Bare in mind,

To love and to win is the best,
To love and to lose is the next best.


Just don't give up and always to make the 1st move if you think they are the right one..
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QUOTE(leoboa6 @ Dec 16 2009, 11:44 AM)
Bare in mind,

To love and to win is the best,
   To love and to lose is the next best.
Just don't give up and always to make the 1st move if you think they are the right one..
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And second best is first loser. laugh.gif

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Something I want to share that seems relevant to this post. Mod if you think it is not , feel free to delete it.

This is directed to those individuals who often pose this question.

Q-> "HOW IN THE WORLD WILL I EVER GET A WOMAN .. BOO HOO... In reality IM A BIG GIRLY MAN THAT OFTEN CRIES MYSELF TO SLEEEP HELP !"

A-> GO out to MID VALLEY MEGA MALL or KLCC DURING THE WEEKEND , BELIEVE IT OR NOT THERE ARE LITERALLY 1000'S OF WOMEN WHO ARE JUST DYING TO MEET A GUY LIKE YOU , INFACT A VAST MAJORITY OF THEM HAVENT EVEN HAD A BF .. BETTER STILL.. THEY MIGHT BE VIRGINS (not that i am saying a one who is not is a whore).

Thank you smile.gif


Oh yes and with all due respect to the fairer sex, Sadly their advise on finding relationships for single men are often not very effective. (based on personal experience)

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QUOTE(leoboa6 @ Dec 16 2009, 11:44 AM)
Bare in mind,

To love and to win is the best,
  To love and to lose is the next best.
Just don't give up and always to make the 1st move if you think they are the right one..
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hahaha i agree with u rclxms.gif
but until today i have never approached the girl that i like...i am to worried and nervous wub.gif
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i cant sleep tonite

so let me write some of PrinceHamsap style

firstly, your look ... if you're good looking its a plus point
if you dont, make sure you have a neat clean look

and never have a too serious look, girls will be scared of you.
Show your smile to make people felt comfortable with you

Be interesting, be a humourus person who can makes the girl laugh
but if you're making too much joke, you're just another joker/laughther friend for her
be a listener to her, tell her stories that showing your good deeds/sincerity

when u tell your own story, tell her with enthusiasm.
Dont get too excited or too much of hand movement, it will scared the gal off
if you noticed she's getting boring, cut the story off. Not every person gets into your story

Dirty jokes are ok, but keep it very minimal and not so dirty. Sexist joke are not recommended especialy they just met you. Dont swear even once.

Do show yourself is in relax position. Dont try too hard or so desperate. Girls are turn off with that

if you possess these, she will be fine to come out with you again or calling you frequent for chat

good nite dudes ... its 3am now ... t.b.continue
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prince hamsap so PRO....

just be sincere
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QUOTE(midnitepig @ Jan 12 2010, 03:15 AM)
prince hamsap so PRO....

just be sincere
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Added on January 12, 2010, 6:57 pm
QUOTE(PrinceHamsap @ Jan 12 2010, 03:01 AM)
i cant sleep tonite

so let me write some of PrinceHamsap style

firstly, your look ... if you're good looking its a plus point
if you dont, make sure you have a neat clean look

and never have a too serious look, girls will be scared of you.
Show your smile to make people felt comfortable with you

Be interesting, be a humourus person who can makes the girl laugh
but if you're making too much joke, you're just another joker/laughther friend for her
be a listener to her, tell her stories that showing your good deeds/sincerity

when u tell your own story, tell her with enthusiasm.
Dont get too excited or too much of hand movement, it will scared the gal off
if you noticed she's getting boring, cut the story off. Not every person gets into your story

Dirty jokes are ok, but keep it very minimal and not so dirty. Sexist joke are not recommended especialy they just met you. Dont swear even once.

Do show yourself is in relax position. Dont try too hard or so desperate. Girls are turn off with that

if you possess these, she will be fine to come out with you again or calling you frequent for chat

good nite dudes ... its 3am now ... t.b.continue
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These are very good tips.

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QUOTE(PrinceHamsap @ Jan 12 2010, 03:01 AM)
i cant sleep tonite

so let me write some of PrinceHamsap style

firstly, your look ... if you're good looking its a plus point
if you dont, make sure you have a neat clean look

and never have a too serious look, girls will be scared of you.
Show your smile to make people felt comfortable with you

Be interesting, be a humourus person who can makes the girl laugh
but if you're making too much joke, you're just another joker/laughther friend for her
be a listener to her, tell her stories that showing your good deeds/sincerity

when u tell your own story, tell her with enthusiasm.
Dont get too excited or too much of hand movement, it will scared the gal off
if you noticed she's getting boring, cut the story off. Not every person gets into your story

Dirty jokes are ok, but keep it very minimal and not so dirty. Sexist joke are not recommended especialy they just met you. Dont swear even once.

Do show yourself is in relax position. Dont try too hard or so desperate. Girls are turn off with that

if you possess these, she will be fine to come out with you again or calling you frequent for chat

good nite dudes ... its 3am now ... t.b.continue
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And then you get her to hamsap u.

But te tips really are good. will keep it in mind.
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the fundamental problem of being a nice guy is:

1) you will have a high chance ending in the "just a nice guy" list of hers...and often, women will keep that list in the lowest priority. their mentality is always "nice = boring and safe"

2) nice guys seems out of this world, at least to their mind. so if you try to be a nice guy (dont say try la, lets say just being yrself), inside their head they are thinking, "this guy is for real? can believe whatever he is saying ar" etc etc.
It seems like girls are far easier believing jerks because they seem more "real" compared to nice guys. pretty messed up huh?

3) not all nice guys are actually nice. infact, noone is completely nice. everyone has issues. its a matter of how serious those issues are...and unfortunately, women WILL always look into those issue as BIG issues, and then disregard the other better things about "nice guys". but for badass, their badness is obvious so women will OVERLOOK their issues and try to look for their GOODNESS. again, pretty messed up.

these are my personal opinion, and also partly observation and experiance. i have seen and met and been told so many times...and i can say that no.3 is the problem with most people in facing r/ship problem. so my opinion for those who are looking for a partner...DONT LISTEN on whether to be a BAD/GOOD GUY. its a waste of time. why? simple...dont change yrself for anyone...especially if its changing for the worst. if u genuinely want be a nice guy, go ahead...but not for another women's request.

read no.3 and understand what i meant. GENUINE partners will look into what is good in you...and not just accept you are an overall good guy, but keep looking into yr weakness and at the end of the day, give u craps like "you're a good guy blah blah blah, BUT blah bla blah". although "not so good guys" have advantage because of it, you are still you.

this is not ALL WOMEN, but MAJORITY of it is like that. it is human nature, we only want to see what we want to see, and if it is not there, we will try to "make" it there.

guys are not so serious in this aspect because we are more visually attracted, but girls are emotional, so to them, everything is feeling. they like the good guy feeling, but cannot escape finding problems in them. they dont want to have a jerk as their partner, but keep believing they can change them or keep trying to find 'good' in them.
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QUOTE(eddie_al @ Jan 14 2010, 03:50 PM)
3) not all nice guys are actually nice. infact, noone is completely nice. everyone has issues. its a matter of how serious those issues are...and unfortunately, women WILL always look into those issue as BIG issues, and then disregard the other better things about "nice guys". but for badass, their badness is obvious so women will OVERLOOK their issues and try to look for their GOODNESS. again, pretty messed up.
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alrite ... its 415 AM !!!! and princehamsap kenot sleep !! DAMNNNNNNNNNNN

this is so TRUE ... nice guy are not nice. They are just too EMOTIONALLY GREEDY
and expects a return when treating someone nice. Such being overwhelming nice actually FREAKING OUT the girl,
make them felt bored because they are just agreeing to everything.


Added on January 18, 2010, 4:58 amalrite ... its princehamsap and its insomaniac problem

as talking for first time or if it still in stranger level
its very important not to scared her off so ....
dont dont dont ever compliment her physical attraction

something that i've being told by my ex-coleeek hot malay gal (one i would love to tiap)

tis was a new uncle joining the company, firstly when they met
the uncle compliment her being face feature beautiful, fair skin, nice slim body
the girl was freak out and later the uncle was branded as pervert desperate old hag

so you see here, complimenting physical at first meet, its freak the girl out as she think u wanna eat her
instead, compliment something else like her clothes, her accessories, earrings
somethings thats very out standing to your eyes other then her face, ass and boobs
(pls dont compliment if she just wearing sleeping tshirt and shorts like at home, if u do it then you're just desperate)

it not necessary to compliment, disagreeing with her is also a goodway but do end up with a positive suggestion else it might turn to ugly as she was thinking you was there to shoot her

Example: "i dont think the dress your wearing matches you cause our horrible admin wear the same too. Well I always love to see gal wear pantyhose with blazers and i think it will look great in you. Give it a try if you can"

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holy shiot silverhawk !!! you dam playa !! dun h8 the playa h8 the game huh ?
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hi, i've a question.
I had a date with this girl last week and i think she likes me wub.gif
So i was wondering, how soon should i ask her for a 2nd date so that i wouldn't look desperate?

Any ideas for the 2nd date? icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(me076310 @ Jan 31 2010, 08:04 PM)
hi, i've a question.
I had a date with this girl last week and i think she likes me wub.gif
So i was wondering, how soon should i ask her for a 2nd date so that i wouldn't look desperate?

Any ideas for the 2nd date? icon_question.gif
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stop worrying about stuff like that. If you want to ask her out tomorrow, just ask her out tomorrow. The trick is not about looking desperate or not, its making an invitation that is so enticing, she won't refuse.
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i have prob. After broke with ex few years ago, until today no gf. Any help?
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I have been wondering why there is no pinned thread for girls on "How to get the guy you want"? Is it because for them it is as easy as having money grow on trees? Why is it that guys are the only ones competing for girls? Why are girls always the prize and not guys? Why are guys not the ones holding the trump card to decide which girl gets picked? Is it because there are more single guys than single girls in our society? Someone please enlighten me.


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QUOTE(tangodown @ Feb 11 2010, 10:28 AM)
i have prob. After broke with ex few years ago, until today no gf. Any help?
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Go to Shenzhen to look for one. According to my dad who just returned from there, he said girls in Shenzhen outnumber guys and are dying to marry off from China because they don't want to suffer. Many choices for you pick from. But the gender ratio in the whole of China is grossly biased towards the male side.

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jan 13 2010, 10:20 AM)
And then you get her to hamsap u.

But te tips really are good. will keep it in mind.
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ROFL>.... after that you can hamsap her back.. lol
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[quote=samteng,Feb 12 2010, 10:58 AM]
I have been wondering why there is no pinned thread for girls on "How to get the guy you want"? Is it because for them it is as easy as having money grow on trees? Why is it that guys are the only ones competing for girls? Why are girls always the prize and not guys? Why are guys not the ones holding the trump card to decide which girl gets picked? Is it because there are more single guys than single girls in our society? Someone please enlighten me.

I guess its because girls are like fishes living in the sea and we don't see fishes jumping out of the water right into the fishermans net when there are tasty and juicy baits luring them nearby. Well, you get the idea! sweat.gif
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I have been wondering why there is no pinned thread for girls on "How to get the guy you want"? Is it because for them it is as easy as having money grow on trees? Why is it that guys are the only ones competing for girls? Why are girls always the prize and not guys? Why are guys not the ones holding the trump card to decide which girl gets picked? Is it because there are more single guys than single girls in our society? Someone please enlighten me.
i also wonder...
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um..,mayb coz there's no demand for the thread from the female forumers here for now? biggrin.gif
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um..,mayb coz there's no demand for the thread from the female forumers here for now? biggrin.gif
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got demand, but no one wants to write one laugh.gif
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got demand, but no one wants to write one laugh.gif
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how do you know there is? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(slushie @ Feb 27 2010, 03:16 AM)
how do you know there is?  biggrin.gif
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few pages in this topic got girls asking laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Malaysiancasanova @ Apr 8 2009, 05:28 AM)
thank you


Added on April 8, 2009, 5:53 amhow to get a gal you want......1st Knowledge is Power ......2nd Confidence....and the last thing is luck
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I kinda of agree with that...-__-"...how bout looks? Any opinion people? thumbup.gif
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I kinda of agree with  that...-__-"...how bout looks? Any opinion people? thumbup.gif
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The only thing that really matters is finding the person right for you. have you ever seen a couple that you think the guy doesn't match the girl or vice versa, that is because looks doesn't matter. biggrin.gif
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it depends on how you tackle and what kind of girl you tackle.easy or hard to get
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I am having a skype session with a couch - how to get gals, anyone interested PM me your skype info. Thanks
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dont spam la.

your previous thread also KO already. still spam like this somemore?

you think your coach is what, expert girl tackler with professional record of tackling 100 girls in 1 month? rolleyes.gif
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I am just posting about what this thread is meant - to get girls, why you care so much about my couch? Please don't post with stupidity. I am here just to offer help that can be meant so much to people who need it. I cant help with your organ problem, you can go see doctor about that.

Cheers mate, to those who PM me, hope you enjoy the skype session.
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QUOTE(ssvaley @ Mar 3 2010, 08:25 PM)
I am just posting about what this thread is meant - to get girls, why you care so much about my couch? Please don't post with stupidity. I am here just to offer help that can be meant so much to people who need it. I cant help with your organ problem, you can go see doctor about that.

Cheers mate, to those who PM me, hope you enjoy the skype session.
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Not to rub it in, but you're promoting something that is not accountable for, in view of such secrecy and stuffs.

Not forgetting spamming. whistling.gif
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I am having a skype session with a couch - how to get gals, anyone interested PM me your skype info. Thanks
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you're having a skype session with a couch!?!?! Holy shit, that must be one advanced couch laugh.gif

That pro can teach you how to play the game, but that doesn't mean you'll get the girl you want in your life. Nonetheless, congrats on learning one aspect of the dating scene.
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Look? those who rly cares about look 1st are really dumb lor in my opinion.

No matter how good lookin that guy is,how beautiful that girl is after 40-50 yrs also become Lao Ah pek,Lao Cha Bo la.

somemore hor u never see his/her ugly side,everyone got ugly side de mah.

megan fox,edward cullen, never fart meh,they never dig her nose meh,they also will pangsai and lausai,
everyone does that wadd..

never show nia..when u live together with him/her,eventually u will find his/her not that good lookin anymore.
so what is left is the love for the heart and personality lor.

so dont judge a book by its cover biggrin.gif

it's all aboutt "FEELINGS & BUTTERFLIES!" wink.gif

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QUOTE(Malaysiancasanova @ Apr 8 2009, 05:15 AM)
Dun whine about not getting any gals in your life bro............u c if wan a gal.......u gota walk the walk .........choose your galfren properly.....i wan ask u sumtin......if a guy doesnt know how to dress well.........we teach him ryte....or he less experience......in talking to a gal...he needs advice ryte.......so my point is we help each another...by sharing our experiences.......and 1st of all y r u in cupid corner........if ur talking about standards......u r better of ......lecturing ppl in college about standards ryte........haha...talking about standards konon......such a retard haaha summore writing in cupid corner hahah
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u are a joker... dude... if sharing experiance really make a diff..then every 1 out there will be going out with hot chicks ~ a outcome of relationship depends on how u treat others... how u deal with things ~ in a way to say.. ur personality makes the diff.. not other ppls experiance ~


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QUOTE(Malaysiancasanova @ Apr 8 2009, 05:28 AM)
thank you


Added on April 8, 2009, 5:53 amhow to get a gal you want......1st Knowledge is Power ......2nd Confidence....and the last thing is luck
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lmao dupe... its ur attitude tat counts ! not ur calculation ! lolz!

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Hi,
New here. Actually stumbled across while googling for an IC jpg. Have not been back here for more than a decade and without new IC I might not be able to renew my Passport to the terms I wish. It's a problem since Malaysia does not accept dual nationality. So I decide to stay Malaysian and has to go through this hassle of travel and ID doccuments.
Just to say that you all have a jewel here with Silverhawk. Very sound fundamentals and his opinions are best suited in this country.
Read his posts again and look at the person behind it. Those are the characters that will attract a partner. Whether another similar relationship will last forever, it is not conclusive - takes two to do a tango.
Security( financial ), though not mention, I believe with his qualities, it should not be a problem. I have yet to see a normal woman who would go for a hobo or anyone without a steady job.
His sense of humor.
Not quick to anger.
Listening power
Way of expression or writing to you.
solid fundamental wisdom in this subjet.
Leadership - not dictatorship.
These are the things I found reading through his posts.

I believe these things will attract the opposite sex.

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Personally, on others topics about changing to suit someone else, I think it is not easy. You will find yourself falling back to old habits after a long period.
-Unless you have a spiritual transformation.
A lot of those tech from books are good for short term gains but unlikely to help you sustain a long term relationship

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I am a financial entrepreneur. I believe in historical data to project the future market movement. Same as like we dig deep into the frozen ground in the Artic to bring up rods of frozen data to model a probable cycle of the future.
So let's apply it to ourselves.
Who or what am I ?
Take sometime and jolt it on a piece of paper.
What your mum dislikes? Then your dad.
What your mum likes? Then your dad.
How makes them happy? What is important to them? Expectations on themselves.
How do they react when they are angry? etc
Try to note down all their way of behaviour. In anger, in deep problems etc
Do that quietly with deep thoughts.
Then look at yourself. See what similarities and differences.
This will help you to see yourself and also those hidden traits of yourself that are not so obvious.
You will finally have a list of what you are looking for in your friendships and partner. You will also know yourself. With that you have a CLEAR list to scratch of the women that will be attracted to you that you should not pay attention to.
Eventually when you find the one you think is right, make her do the same list with her parents.
Then you have a list of where you will click well and where you will have potential problems - and seek a way to communicate with each other on those difficult points.
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Try to ADD to what you already are that can improve certain habits. Not try to change to suit.
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There is never a perfect formular or a set rule. It depends on certain region of the world. In the East block and former USSR, the 70s , 80s generation might not be attracted by what is in the first post other than financial security. It was real tough times in those days. You have to be there away from Moscow to see those dire times. If a women picks you or vice versa, she will summit almost completely. The choice is then in your hands to make her happy or hell for her. Many Russian men gave them hell - Vodka !!! is the problem. Women were often beaten.
Today's generation is becoming more "cunning" there !!!
In certain parts of S. America the same applies - financial secrity is priority.

Oops !!
4 am here !!
Good luck to those who are searching

This post has been edited by 2222fx: Mar 20 2010, 10:53 AM
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how to get a girl which flirts ?
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Try this

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1361247.html

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QUOTE(Queenfreak @ Mar 8 2010, 06:40 PM)
Look? those who rly cares about look 1st are really dumb lor in my opinion.

No matter how good lookin that guy is,how beautiful that girl is after 40-50 yrs also become Lao Ah pek,Lao Cha Bo la.

somemore hor u never see his/her ugly side,everyone got ugly side de mah.

megan fox,edward cullen, never fart meh,they never dig her nose meh,they also will pangsai and lausai,
everyone does that wadd..

never show nia..when u live together with him/her,eventually u will find his/her not that good lookin anymore.
so what is left is the love for the heart and personality lor.

so dont judge a book by its cover  biggrin.gif

it's all aboutt "FEELINGS & BUTTERFLIES!"  wink.gif
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i totally disagree on that because most girls always say is feelings, personality and all that is the only thing they look for but looks for me is definitely important...

1. if you are looking for a 1st date and you are given an ah beng or a decent looking guy, are you gonna go for a guy who looks like ah beng or someone who wears a polo t and jeans and a decent look?
2. looks/appearances always carries a significant image to 3/10th of a person's personality that is because how one dresses would reflect on their hygiene
3. 1st impression is always important... INITIATIVE! strike an image to a person's mind is important as well... if your 'standard' isn't strong enough to make an impact to make him/her remember you then how would the next step continue?

you don't want someone who dress in t-shirt and jeans to a wedding dinner right?

everyone has its ugly side and no1 would know until about half a year into the relationship... and all that comes later on... no reason to 'not' judge a book by its cover... its human nature


Added on March 24, 2010, 7:38 pm
QUOTE(2222fx @ Mar 20 2010, 10:45 AM)
Hi,
New here. Actually stumbled across while googling for an IC jpg. Have not been back here for more than a decade and without new IC I might not be able to renew my Passport to the terms I wish. It's a problem since Malaysia does not accept dual nationality. So I decide to stay Malaysian and has to go through this hassle of travel and ID doccuments.
Just to say that you all have a jewel here with Silverhawk. Very sound fundamentals and his opinions are best suited in this country.
Read his posts again and look at the person behind it. Those are the characters that will attract a partner. Whether another similar relationship will last forever, it is not conclusive - takes two to do a tango.
Security( financial ), though not mention, I believe with his qualities, it should not be a problem. I have yet to see a normal woman who would go for a hobo or anyone without a steady job.
His sense of humor.
Not quick to anger.
Listening power
Way of expression or writing to you.
solid fundamental wisdom in this subjet.
Leadership - not dictatorship.
These are the things I found reading through his posts.

I believe these things will attract the opposite sex.

**************
Personally, on others topics about changing to suit someone else, I think it is not easy. You will find yourself falling back to old habits after a long period.
-Unless you have a spiritual transformation.
A lot of those tech from books are good for short term gains but unlikely to help you sustain a long term relationship

******************

I am a financial entrepreneur. I believe in historical data to project the future market movement. Same as like we dig deep into the frozen ground in the Artic to bring up rods of frozen data to model a probable cycle of the future.
So let's apply it to ourselves.
Who or what am I ?
Take sometime and jolt it on a piece of paper.
What your mum dislikes? Then your dad.
What your mum likes? Then your dad.
How makes them happy? What is important to them? Expectations on themselves.
How do they react when they are angry? etc
Try to note down all their way of behaviour. In anger, in deep problems etc
Do that quietly with deep thoughts.
Then look at yourself. See what similarities and differences.
This will help you to see yourself and also those hidden traits of yourself that are not so obvious.
You will finally have a list of what you are looking for in your friendships and partner. You will also know yourself. With that you have a CLEAR list to scratch of the women that will be attracted to you that you should not pay attention to.
Eventually when you find the one you think is right, make her do the same list with her parents.
Then you have a list of where you will click well and where you will have potential problems - and seek a way to communicate with each other on those difficult points.
*********************
Try to ADD to what you already are that can improve certain habits. Not try to change to suit.
*********************

There is never a perfect formular or a set rule. It depends on certain region of the world. In the East block and former USSR, the 70s , 80s generation might not be attracted by what is in the first post other than financial security. It was real tough times in those days. You have to be there away from Moscow to see those dire times. If a women picks you or vice versa, she will summit almost completely. The choice is then in your hands to make her happy or hell for her. Many Russian men gave them hell - Vodka !!! is the problem. Women were often beaten.
Today's generation is becoming  more "cunning" there !!!
In certain parts of S. America the same applies - financial secrity is priority.

Oops !!
4 am here !!
Good luck to those who are searching
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isn't financial security applies to most parts of the world? (ie. cities/modern societies) but way of thinking is different from other parts of the world as I know it to be true. there is too many variables to determine what and how to get a girls/guys. but i believe in the theory of trail and error and therefore i always would try because without trying you will never know the outcome even you predicted it to be 100% failure. and without trail, you will regret, that is why i try not to regret anything i do in my lifes.

most Malaysian aren't exposed and dependant. Maybe due to our Asian culture but after all this years of standing and falling I realized a lot of Malaysians follow a linear line instead of branching out different possibilities and thinking out of the box. (ie. some parts of the world like India/Bangladesh, men hold hands same as to our understanding that girls holding hands during shopping and hanging out time) instead of being open to these possibilities, our influence from Western culture has made us accepting Western culture as norm and others as being 'abnormal'.

you just have to be yourself and not someone your partner wants you to be... its difficult especially when you need to compromise but nothing is easy..

am i doing some preaching? i seem to be doing it nowadays whistling.gif

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QUOTE(hironobu85 @ Mar 24 2010, 07:01 PM)
i totally disagree on that because most girls always say is feelings, personality and all that is the only thing they look for but looks for me is definitely important...

1. if you are looking for a 1st date and you are given an ah beng or a decent looking guy, are you gonna go for a guy who looks like ah beng or someone who wears a polo t and jeans and a decent look?
2. looks/appearances always carries a significant image to 3/10th of a person's personality that is because how one dresses would reflect on their hygiene
3. 1st impression is always important... INITIATIVE! strike an image to a person's mind is important as well... if your 'standard' isn't strong enough to make an impact to make him/her remember you then how would the next step continue?

you don't want someone who dress in t-shirt and jeans to a wedding dinner right?

everyone has its ugly side and no1 would know until about half a year into the relationship... and all that comes later on... no reason to 'not' judge a book by its cover... its human nature

Sure looks are important, just not as important as you think.

Girls base most of their decision on emotions, not that much on rational thought or looks. Sometimes you'll see an average person having more success hitting on women than a good looking guy, why? Cause the average person typically has had to learn how to attract women not based on his looks alone, that alone makes him more attractive.

I speak from personal experience when I say looks aren't that important.

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 24 2010, 07:47 PM)
Sure looks are important, just not as important as you think.

Girls base most of their decision on emotions, not that much on rational thought or looks. Sometimes you'll see an average person having more success hitting on women than a good looking guy, why? Cause the average person typically has had to learn how to attract women not based on his looks alone, that alone makes him more attractive.

I speak from personal experience when I say looks aren't that important.
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Yea, don't get me wrong, i know that look is not on top
but the way they interpret looks makes me think that they don't really say what they think but what people wants to hear...

Totally agree on your perspective of an average person, because I also think that hot girls with average guys and vice versa is quite the norm because an average person has to make up for their flaws in order to attract the opposite...

I don't know about society nowadays but it makes me feel that guys are slowly turning girls into lesbians because of the way they see the opposite... prizes/challenges... because a lot of times they go super nice to the girl but after they got them they become arrogant and turn back to their normal selves and cheat on the girl because of men's ego and thinking of 'since i can kao this chun chick then i can kao other more chun chicks as well and then they cheat on them and make them couldn't trust guys... and in the end making it difficult to even approach them
hrm.....looks like i am finding excuses for my failures? hahaha whistling.gif

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QUOTE(2222fx @ Mar 20 2010, 10:45 AM)
Hi,
New here. Actually stumbled across while googling for an IC jpg. Have not been back here for more than a decade and without new IC I might not be able to renew my Passport to the terms I wish. It's a problem since Malaysia does not accept dual nationality. So I decide to stay Malaysian and has to go through this hassle of travel and ID doccuments.
Just to say that you all have a jewel here with Silverhawk. Very sound fundamentals and his opinions are best suited in this country.
Read his posts again and look at the person behind it. Those are the characters that will attract a partner. Whether another similar relationship will last forever, it is not conclusive - takes two to do a tango.
Security( financial ), though not mention, I believe with his qualities, it should not be a problem. I have yet to see a normal woman who would go for a hobo or anyone without a steady job.
His sense of humor.
Not quick to anger.
Listening power
Way of expression or writing to you.
solid fundamental wisdom in this subjet.
Leadership - not dictatorship.
These are the things I found reading through his posts.

I believe these things will attract the opposite sex.

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Personally, on others topics about changing to suit someone else, I think it is not easy. You will find yourself falling back to old habits after a long period.
-Unless you have a spiritual transformation.
A lot of those tech from books are good for short term gains but unlikely to help you sustain a long term relationship

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I am a financial entrepreneur. I believe in historical data to project the future market movement. Same as like we dig deep into the frozen ground in the Artic to bring up rods of frozen data to model a probable cycle of the future.
So let's apply it to ourselves.
Who or what am I ?
Take sometime and jolt it on a piece of paper.
What your mum dislikes? Then your dad.
What your mum likes? Then your dad.
How makes them happy? What is important to them? Expectations on themselves.
How do they react when they are angry? etc
Try to note down all their way of behaviour. In anger, in deep problems etc
Do that quietly with deep thoughts.
Then look at yourself. See what similarities and differences.
This will help you to see yourself and also those hidden traits of yourself that are not so obvious.
You will finally have a list of what you are looking for in your friendships and partner. You will also know yourself. With that you have a CLEAR list to scratch of the women that will be attracted to you that you should not pay attention to.
Eventually when you find the one you think is right, make her do the same list with her parents.
Then you have a list of where you will click well and where you will have potential problems - and seek a way to communicate with each other on those difficult points.
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Try to ADD to what you already are that can improve certain habits. Not try to change to suit.
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There is never a perfect formular or a set rule. It depends on certain region of the world. In the East block and former USSR, the 70s , 80s generation might not be attracted by what is in the first post other than financial security. It was real tough times in those days. You have to be there away from Moscow to see those dire times. If a women picks you or vice versa, she will summit almost completely. The choice is then in your hands to make her happy or hell for her. Many Russian men gave them hell - Vodka !!! is the problem. Women were often beaten.
Today's generation is becoming  more "cunning" there !!!
In certain parts of S. America the same applies - financial secrity is priority.

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Mar 24 2010, 07:47 PM)
Sure looks are important, just not as important as you think.

Girls base most of their decision on emotions, not that much on rational thought or looks. Sometimes you'll see an average person having more success hitting on women than a good looking guy, why? Cause the average person typically has had to learn how to attract women not based on his looks alone, that alone makes him more attractive.

I speak from personal experience when I say looks aren't that important.
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QUOTE(hironobu85 @ Mar 24 2010, 08:47 PM)
Yea, don't get me wrong, i know that look is not on top
but the way they interpret looks makes me think that they don't really say what they think but what people wants to hear...

Totally agree on your perspective of an average person, because I also think that hot girls with average guys and vice versa is quite the norm because an average person has to make up for their flaws in order to attract the opposite...

I don't know about society nowadays but it makes me feel that guys are slowly turning girls into lesbians because of the way they see the opposite... prizes/challenges... because a lot of times they go super nice to the girl but after they got them they become arrogant and turn back to their normal selves and cheat on the girl because of men's ego and thinking of 'since i can kao this chun chick then i can kao other more chun chicks as well and then they cheat on them and make them couldn't trust guys...  and in the end making it difficult to even approach them
hrm.....looks like i am finding excuses for my failures? hahaha  whistling.gif

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i agree with the 3 of u , i totally do. rclxms.gif It's almost a perfect theory if it's possible to combine the 3 of u. biggrin.gif
But still , the conclusion is ; it all depends on what type of girls u'r really after, seriously. We have materialistic type , kind type , never-go-for-just-the-look type , flirty type , & blah blah blah ... Different types with Different perspectives.There's no 1 ultimate answer to solve the BIG Q here gentlemen... But, this doesnt deny the fact that the 3 of u are extraordinarily GOOD !! real good posts u guys have there! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

I am IMPRESSED. Seriously, i am. Oh , by the way, I am a girl. A girl who's very very glad that guys like these 3 gentlemen here still exist.

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QUOTE(xxx_8088 @ Mar 24 2010, 11:03 PM)
i agree with the 3 of u , i totally do. rclxms.gif  It's almost a perfect theory if it's possible to combine the 3 of u.  biggrin.gif
But still , the conclusion is ; it all depends on what type of girls u'r really after, seriously. We have materialistic type , kind type , never-go-for-just-the-look type , flirty type , & blah blah blah ... Different types with Different perspectives.There's no 1 ultimate answer to solve the BIG Q here gentlemen... But, this doesnt deny the fact that the 3 of u are extraordinarily GOOD !! real good posts u guys have there!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

I am IMPRESSED. Seriously, i am. Oh , by the way, I am a girl. A girl who's very very glad that guys like these 3 gentlemen here still exist.
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too bad most of us are the ones that pick up the trash and fix them back up... i have lots of female friends but never a girl friend... maybe i am just too picky about it?? because like my pet sister~ a lot of people was asking me why don't i go for her when she was single? i even asked myself but its not right if I don't have feelings for her, in the end when i found someone that i really like then i would hurt her instead


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i maybe superstitious n old traditional kind of guy coz i believe evry living person either male or female gods made them 4 each other~
you're not gonna sit 'round n doing nothing u have to work hard for it..it doesn't matter whether you're good looking or not the important is what ur heart desire n before i forget be confident of yourself n mark my words most of the girls love guys with high self esteem so go for it guys best to all thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(MiRyff @ Mar 29 2010, 01:36 PM)
i maybe superstitious n old traditional kind of guy coz i believe evry living person either male or female gods made them 4 each other~
you're not gonna sit 'round n doing nothing u have to work hard for it..it doesn't matter whether you're good looking or not the important is what ur heart desire n before i forget be confident of yourself n mark my words most of the girls love guys with high self esteem so go for it guys best to all  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Got to agree with That... and the 3 that xxx_8088 posted... all very good info... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

As for me... i'm still chasing the girl of my dreams since... The final months of Last year... till now... my last semester here... still
haven't Actually Told her YET blush.gif ... sigh... Dunno WTF I'm waiting for sometimes doh.gif
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QUOTE(SheeKenSays @ Mar 29 2010, 09:11 PM)
Got to agree with That... and the 3 that xxx_8088 posted... all very good info... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

As for me... i'm still chasing the girl of my dreams since... The final months of Last year... till now... my last semester here... still
haven't Actually Told her YET blush.gif ... sigh... Dunno WTF I'm waiting for sometimes  doh.gif
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relaxed n take a deep breath my fren be confident n be yourself
check her mood n have a good conversation with her if ya can include some jokes in it >>most girls like guys with sense of humor nod.gif
if she give you the green light then ask her out that time is the time to confess ur feeling towards her gud luck icon_rolleyes.gif

right place at the right time~

as they say slow n steady

haste make waste thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(MiRyff @ Mar 29 2010, 11:03 PM)
relaxed n take a deep breath my fren be confident n be yourself
check her mood n have a good conversation with her if ya can include some jokes in it >>most girls like guys with sense of humor  nod.gif
if she give you the green light then ask her out that time is the time to confess ur feeling towards her gud luck icon_rolleyes.gif

right place at the right time~

as they say slow n steady

haste make waste  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(xxx_8088 @ Mar 24 2010, 11:03 PM)
i agree with the 3 of u , i totally do. rclxms.gif  It's almost a perfect theory if it's possible to combine the 3 of u.  biggrin.gif
But still , the conclusion is ; it all depends on what type of girls u'r really after, seriously. We have materialistic type , kind type , never-go-for-just-the-look type , flirty type , & blah blah blah ... Different types with Different perspectives.There's no 1 ultimate answer to solve the BIG Q here gentlemen... But, this doesnt deny the fact that the 3 of u are extraordinarily GOOD !! real good posts u guys have there!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

I am IMPRESSED. Seriously, i am. Oh , by the way, I am a girl. A girl who's very very glad that guys like these 3 gentlemen here still exist.
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Aiyoo...why so susah one?? Ok find me a girl. Im not fat, good looking 4/5..still no gal...good? unquestionable. Anything else??
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if a girl keeps on asking who you like & what kind of girls do you like,

does it mean that she likes me?
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when we want to get close to a girl, normally the guy would try to know more/as much as possible about the girl, right? when a girl said she doesn't like to talk too much about herself, what does it means? if don't talk about her, how do I know more about her and get close to her? what other things I can talk to her? really need an advice!
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QUOTE(WereWolf84 @ Apr 9 2010, 08:52 AM)
when we want to get close to a girl, normally the guy would try to know more/as much as possible about the girl, right? when a girl said she doesn't like to talk too much about herself, what does it means? if don't talk about her, how do I know more about her and get close to her? what other things I can talk to her? really need an advice!
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She just needs more time to be comfortable around you, be playful and fun, no need to talk about serious and personal stuffs. Talk about gossips, talk about movies, talk about common hobbies, she'll open up to you once she's ready. For the time being, don't push it.
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Also, how do I show my care towards her while don't talk/ask too much about her? because I wish to know her latest condition whether everything is ok or not for her but don't want to annoy her? really need advices to develop the relationship sad.gif

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impressed by this thread and all the wise words and sadly the truth in the relationship scene laugh.gif
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Added on April 20, 2010, 12:10 pm
QUOTE(WereWolf84 @ Apr 9 2010, 09:50 AM)
Also, how do I show my care towards her while don't talk/ask too much about her? because I wish to know her latest condition whether everything is ok or not for her but don't want to annoy her? really need advices to develop the relationship  sad.gif
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Read more books about Body Language,
using only MOUTH to communicate sometimes is really IRRITATING and ANNOYING
Sorry if offended but it's true.

Try to approach by using BODY LANGUAGE.
Find some books or articles on how to build relationship with that..


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Many people will use body language in flirting, well, it's depends on individual..
Just like when u holding a gun, you can kill people or you can help people..
I'm that kind of slow and steady man, I don't rush in relationship..

Basically a Proper body language can let you be more acceptable in the society,
But NOT OVER-DO it..

Just dont try to be funny and act like a jerk just to entertain people,
That's a CLOWN.

Just my 2cent.

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hot out from the oven!!!! i like it, as it is true.
100+ thank you, silverhawk
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My lame tactic 101, before u know her, shake her hand, and then say "WOW, smooth hand" thumbup.gif old lame tactic but 9 out of 10 chances i found it useful to break the ice
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 8 2009, 05:08 AM)
There are many topics here of guys whining about being rejected(no matter the reason) and then there are topics where people attempt to teach a guy how to be attractive to women. Despite how these 2 types seem different, they both share a fundamental problem. What is that problem? well let me share it with you...

They have no standards of their own

What does this mean? Well, I'll explain. To reach the widest audience possible, I'll prepare a wall of text assault and a tl;dr version tongue.gif Enjoy smile.gif

tl;dr
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Wall of text Assault (I'm a RWIer... you've been warned tongue.gif)
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I could probably write this better, but meh its 5am tongue.gif
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after reading all this ...i still dont get it~~how to get the girl i want~~??
can someone do some ringkasan for me? icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(slayer12 @ May 21 2010, 04:45 PM)
after reading all this ...i still dont get it~~how to get the girl i want~~??
can someone do some ringkasan for me? icon_question.gif
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got tl;dr already still need ringkasan? doh.gif
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what is tl;dr??

i think is that we nid the self standard first then will get the live and so on?

what r the examples of self standard??
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QUOTE(slayer12 @ May 21 2010, 05:18 PM)
what is tl;dr??

i think is that we nid the self standard first then will get the live and so on?

what r the examples of self standard??
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tl;dr = too long; didn't read

I gave a very short version and you still need a summary? doh.gif

If you need people to show you examples of a self-standard... that's not a self-standard anymore is it? Find out what you like to do in life, pursue that.
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haiz...not so easy le.....'do the thing which you like' is more likely for ppl who have graduated and have money...im still a poor little student...haizz....

i just can study, sleep(most),fb and watch tv nia..


Added on May 21, 2010, 6:13 pmhaiyo...very tired of 'relationship' oredi...

if you are in a condition that;

you like her, she like him, then 'him' oredi gt gf(in LDR). but 'him' oso gt feeling to her..and her say to u tat can u take it as a friend talk?
so nw u r the 'spare tyre'...should u continue become the 'spare tyre'?

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QUOTE(slayer12 @ May 21 2010, 05:58 PM)
haiz...not so easy le.....'do the thing which you like' is more likely for ppl who have graduated and have money...im still a poor little student...haizz....

i just can study, sleep(most),fb and watch tv nia..
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Added on May 21, 2010, 6:13 pm
QUOTE(slayer12 @ May 21 2010, 05:58 PM)
haiyo...very tired of 'relationship' oredi...

if you are in a condition that;

you like her, she like him, then 'him' oredi gt gf(in LDR). but 'him' oso gt feeling to her..and her say to u tat can u take it as a friend talk?
so nw u r the 'spare tyre'...should u continue become the 'spare tyre'?

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If you don't want to be the spare tyre, get out.

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sad.gif...ok...
but nt so easy de...we are from the same course....everyday nid to see them and be wit them...very hard de...nt so easy to 'get out'...gt awkward feeling when facing with her...

nw during sem break oso thinking bout her le..if later in class everytime see her then sure worst....
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That's........gonna unleash the gayness in hawkie..=.=
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rule no1: stop being a whiney b****, grow a pair and some backbones.

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QUOTE(naeboo @ Jul 6 2010, 09:04 PM)
rule no1: stop being a whiney b****, grow a pair and some backbones.

this will lead to many glories.
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yes. whine gets you nowhere. go out and find some girls can get you in their pants. smile.gif
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QUOTE(slayer12 @ May 21 2010, 06:18 PM)
sad.gif...ok...
but nt so easy de...we are from the same course....everyday nid to see them and be wit them...very hard de...nt so easy to 'get out'...gt awkward feeling when facing with her...

nw during sem break oso thinking bout her le..if later in class everytime see her then sure worst....
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Guys, Im completely new in Lowyat forum. This is my first virgin post. Im visitin here coz i juz broke up wif my galfrenz a month ago. Now stil sad, but stil i hv to stand up n move on. So, am tryin to look for some cupid stuff which i could learn. Hawk, ur words make me wanna join this forum. Thanks bro.
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QUOTE(darrenboo @ Jul 25 2010, 12:15 AM)
Guys, Im completely new in Lowyat forum. This is my first virgin post. Im visitin here coz i juz broke up wif my galfrenz a month ago. Now stil sad, but stil i hv to stand up n move on. So, am tryin to look for some cupid stuff which i could learn. Hawk, ur words make me wanna join this forum. Thanks bro.
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rclxms.gif ! Hello darren. Yeah sharpen the game. It's game on whether you are in 20's 30's or even 40's. At least you had a girlfriend experience. So, learn from some sifu here (try look for spanker, drian, gundam76, evangelistica n some ladies here haha).. Mastery is all that matters vs learning a few tips from here.

For starters, get to know other girls.. Sad also go get to know around, not necessary must turn gf. Just be fun around the ladies. You might end up with a gem later laugh.gif

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QUOTE(SwooshY @ Jul 25 2010, 02:27 AM)
rclxms.gif ! Hello darren. Yeah sharpen the game. It's game on whether you are in 20's 30's or even 40's. At least you had a girlfriend experience. So, learn from some sifu here (try look for spanker, drian, gundam76, evangelistica n some ladies here haha).. Mastery is all that matters vs learning a few tips from here.

For starters, get to know other girls.. Sad also go get to know around, not necessary must turn gf. Just be fun around the ladies. You might end up with a gem later  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(darrenboo @ Jul 25 2010, 12:15 AM)
Guys, Im completely new in Lowyat forum. This is my first virgin post. Im visitin here coz i juz broke up wif my galfrenz a month ago. Now stil sad, but stil i hv to stand up n move on. So, am tryin to look for some cupid stuff which i could learn. Hawk, ur words make me wanna join this forum. Thanks bro.
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post Jul 28 2010, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(ymc2303 @ Jul 27 2010, 07:53 PM)
There are plenty of survivors of heart breakers here... Help yourselves.. Here, we called it home..smile.gif
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post Jul 28 2010, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(motoslvr @ Jul 28 2010, 04:38 PM)
here ain't no home compared to my home... well at least when im at home, i visit my home page here?
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you misinterpret my post.. oh well, its ok.. suit yourself..
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post Aug 1 2010, 02:07 AM

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Guys, i know that feeling, its so hard to bare it. but once u have open up ur mind, everything r fine.
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post Aug 21 2010, 03:30 PM

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standards? huh? I dont think it helps at all, at some point it does but as in the matter of LOVE it doesnt. It requires more than you can imagine, it needs commitment and feelings need to b involve its not only what you want, its also how the other person feels about it. Basically it works both ways, not one way!
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post Aug 22 2010, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(ctwt1989 @ Aug 21 2010, 03:30 PM)
standards? huh? I dont think it helps at all, at some point it does but as in the matter of LOVE it doesnt. It requires more than you can imagine, it needs commitment and feelings need to b involve its not only what you want, its also how the other person feels about it. Basically it works both ways, not one way!
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