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L33T_73
post Jul 31 2009, 10:23 PM

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correct me if I am wrong >> from what I understand of the first post, that I as a guy in order to get the girl that I want, I must firmly remain being myself, firmly remain who I am, and (or) firmly remain what I am, with absolutely no compromise? >> for example, I should continue being the quiet guy, continue being the self-sufficient guy, continue being the self-centered guy, continue being the anti-social guy, continue being the guy who is only interested in his own things, and continue being the guy who is only interested in certain types of people >> because that is who I am, because I am like that, because that is what I am, and because that is me by nature in an unpretentious manner?? >> from what I understand of the first post once again, that I should NOT attempt to try to change or alter myself and my character/personality in order to try to get/tailor-suit myself to the girl that I want?

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post Jul 31 2009, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jul 31 2009, 10:34 PM)
If and only if you're happy with who you are.

A lot of people need to improve, a lot of people need to change. Many do not, because it takes them out of their comfort zone. You have to find out, what kind of person you are, what you want from life, what you need in life, and where you want your life to lead. When you've figured this out, you can start to achieve your goals step by step.

Majority of the people out there do not think like this. They don't do a proper self-reflection, they don't try to learn about who they are and what they can be. Instead, they look at others to validate themselves, which is generally destructive.

Whatever path you choose, will have its pros/cons. You want to be the anti-social guy even after a lot of self-reflection and thought. That is fine, but you will have to live with the consequences it carries. Likewise, if you want to go around humping every "kitty" you can, it comes with its own consequences as well. Being happy with who you are means you fully accepts the consequences of your choice and actions because you know that is how things will be.
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Thank you very much for your profound respond.

That is good to hear. smile.gif

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post Aug 1 2009, 04:51 PM

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I am basically trying to "so call improve myself" by being determine to "open up my mind in this respect" to learn some social skills as in "people dealing skills", "communication skills", and "interaction skills" as such... However, to be honest, it is (and it has been) an "uphill battle" for me as I am "simply just not" that type of person... hmm.gif But right now, my parents are placing an extreme amount of emphasis into my head on "Social Skills", "People Dealing Skills", "People Interaction Skills", and "Communication Skills" etc as such... They think that I am "Seriously Lacking" in this aspect, thus I MUST "Bark-Up" in this area... icon_question.gif (Yeah, that is what my parents think.)

So right now I am just trying to 'Improve' myself in this area/aspect. smile.gif Hmmm..., does this go against the theory/advice/suggestion (of this topic)?

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post Aug 1 2009, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Aug 1 2009, 05:21 PM)
We are social creatures, so social skills are important.

You have to look deep into yourself and decide why is it you're anti-social. Is it because you're insecure? Is it because you're depressed? Is it because you're afraid of what people think of you? There could be a myriad number of reasons, but you will have to find out what it is.

Types are not fixed. A person can change his self or life direction at any time as he discovers new things about himself and his environment. People change, people grow, but you have to be open to such changes and see if they fit who you are. Changes don't happen overnight.

In respect to your social learnings, I suggest you remove all expectations from it. Rather than do it because "it is good for you", try to enjoy the interactions for what it is. You may find that slowly and naturally you become more social. Everyone has their own "style", find yours.
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perhaps the most obvious reason as to why I am rather anti-social today is in the following story >>

I used to be a social-beast last time, and that trait continued all the way into high-school... I made a lot of friends and have always liked to make friends and have friends... in fact, I was among the most popular of all in high school, among my peers and teachers and all... I placed priority on making friends and establishing relationships with them... well, it all went on that way until toward the end of my high school life...... where EVERYTHING played me out in the following order >>

NO. 1: I have seriously neglected my studies and have been sacrificing it all to all of my heavy socializing activities... (I have also been playing too much with my friends and all...)

NO. 2: I was seriously prank-ed at, made fun of, mocked at, jeered at, socially discriminated, and all toward the very last minute of my high-school life... Probably my friends were already getting fed up of me for being too popular among everyone else in the school (including being favoured and used as a good example by the teachers) and being a popular, humorous, and entertaining character to the girls and all... (Yup, my guy friends all started to gather together in unity to conspire against me; they wanted me OUT.) >> Thankfully I was still alive when I left high-school for higher-education later-on... (Which is where I am at present.)

The bottom-line, I have been bitten by it before, thus now I am very weary/careful of it all... At the stage of higher-education, I made myself very determine to focus on my studies very seriously this time, no more being the social beast, no more placing priority on making friends (to get into trouble again), to be serious, to be proper, to be attentive, and to stay out of trouble. >> So this is what I am today: Quiet and cautious of my surroundings..., to learn to listen more and talk less, to think before I speak (lest I offend people), to pay attention to the lectures, to avoid getting too involved (or at all) in activities not concerning my studies/education, to be on the safe side, to stay out of trouble, to avoid trouble, etc... As such... << (So all of these is where I am today, at present, currently...)

Anyway, I am getting very distracted by girls in higher-education at this very moment... Where the situation seems to demand that I become sociable with good people dealing skills and such... (yet I feel that I am not/no-longer that type/kind of person now.)

Right now, basically what I am doing is to "Stick to my Guns" and be "who I am/what I am" today. (On the other hand, I am also secretly working on my people-dealing skills inside - which is improved over and different from the version I had during high-school.)

You may be wondering why should I be having any problems in socializing and dealing with girls or anybody today, if I had been such a social beast during high-school:

The answers;

Firstly, I only impressed girls during high-school through my character, but never learned how to get into friendship nor relationship with any. TODAY, if I want girlfriend, I will have to LEARN how to get into friendship or relationship with girls (correct me if I am wrong).

Secondly, my high school social life caused so much consequences (racked so mush havoc) to my studies, and lead to such a bad - nasty ending that it has made me weary, careful, and cautious of socializing in college/university; the unpleasant - unforgettable event/experience and consequences of my social experience & social life during high-school has literally changed/alter my beeing and mindset. (It has basically taught me what to do, and what NOT to do; in higher-education life.)

Hence I am "somewhat" anti-social today at higher-education. (It is because of all those that has happened to me.)

I am basically now "Re-Learning" how to socialize, how to deal with people, how to interact with people, how to communicate with people etc as such, and (finally something new) how to get into friendship and relationship with girls. biggrin.gif

BTW, I am really learning a lot from this topic/thread.

Regards.


Added on August 1, 2009, 7:47 pm
QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Aug 1 2009, 06:28 PM)
It does not go against the theory/advice/suggestions in this topic at all.  smile.gif

I've spoken to a few introverts, most of them older, and they do tell me that learning social skills and even extroverted traits has actually helped them in many ways, even though they still prefer their own company and privacy most of the time.  nod.gif

These were men and women who pretty much had no parental or peer guidance in this area, so they had to learn and discover the importance of this need and ability for themselves. 

Hmm, I'm curious though. How exactly are you learning social skills at the moment?  hmm.gif
Which areas are you perceived to lack, and how are you addressing this?

P.S: Btw, I pretty much agree with everything that Silverhawk said on the matter.
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Thanks a lot.

Right now, basically, I am trying to learn and improve my social skills by "Opening up my mind and myself" to others out there (especially those in my institution such as my lecturers and group-members) and just try to talk to them, discuss with them, and (or) get involve etc... as such... (sometimes it requires a bit of effort, and it is that little bit of effort that I must be willing to ignite.) Very soon, it would be happening naturally and spontaneously!! thumbup.gif (Then it is no longer a problem.)

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post Aug 1 2009, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Aug 1 2009, 07:53 PM)
Sucks to be treated as such by people who you would call friends. Still, its now obvious the social problems you have are due to fear, and not because its part of your character. You went from being too social to too anti-social. One extreme to the other. You need to find a balance, too much of anything isn't good for you.
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I agree, that is why I am trying to strike a balance today; by trying to be more sociable.
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post Aug 1 2009, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Aug 1 2009, 08:15 PM)
G`luck mate smile.gif Hope life takes a turn for the better for you.
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Thank you, thank you. notworthy.gif

 

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