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English Clubs Manchester United Street Talks, 14/03 Man Utd v Liverpool | 20:40 ESPN

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post Feb 22 2009, 02:44 PM

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God I hate Kuszczak! Rio had him covered.. barely, but still why the hell did he come out and then go to ground leaving Santa Cruz with an empty net to aim at? Someone should tell Kuszczak to stay cool and stay on his line especially when there is already a defender following the striker. Arrghh! Stupidx1b. Gave them confidence after that.

Luckily we won. Santa Cruz is hard to play against.
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post Feb 22 2009, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Wan @ Feb 22 2009, 02:44 PM)
Luckily we won. Santa Cruz is hard to play against.
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Without Vida and Rio wasn't too comfortable with the aerial battle, its expected I guess sweat.gif

And is there something wrong with Evans's ankle? Its the same old ankle injury he had last time out. They better get to the bottom of it to get it sorted out properly.

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post Feb 22 2009, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Feb 22 2009, 02:41 PM)
Park ALWAYS plays in big European games - no exception.
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Legendary myth. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Wan @ Feb 22 2009, 02:44 PM)
God I hate Kuszczak! Rio had him covered.. barely, but still why the hell did he come out and then go to ground leaving Santa Cruz with an empty net to aim at? Someone should tell Kuszczak to stay cool and stay on his line especially when there is already a defender following the striker. Arrghh! Stupidx1b. Gave them confidence after that.

Luckily we won. Santa Cruz is hard to play against.
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I wouldnt exactly say that "Rio had him covered" becuz some strikers delay their shots while some prefer to seize the chance at a given opportunity...But I agree with what you said about PIG being a little too rash in his decision. I guess being on the bench all the time din help his confidence..

Yes, Santa Cruz is good, but we all know what Sam's teams are made out of...Just like during his Bolton days.

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post Feb 22 2009, 03:15 PM

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Scholes and Nani didn't deal with the loose ball, sometimes that happens, but Kuszczak still should have stood still for a while. He ended up crashing into the tackling Rio.. leaving Santa Cruz with an open net. It's like letting a robber into your room with your naked GF inside.
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post Feb 22 2009, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(grinner @ Feb 22 2009, 11:42 AM)
at the san siro, agreed o'shea is the better choice (just) since he is marginally better defensively, also the aerial presence... but at home, i'd go with rafael... o'shea can't bomb ahead like the young da silva can...
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he did well against Fulham attacking and defensive wise, think he play better at RB


QUOTE(beck_ken @ Feb 22 2009, 02:37 PM)
remember...we not only play against Inter Milan, we play against Jose Mourinho's Inter Milan. Although their result is typical Mourinho's style but do remember one thing. SAF's Man Utd only beat Jose Mourinho one time only with all the encounter..let it be Porto or Chelsea.
SAF knows that.
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did SAF actually beat him? hmm.gif As far as i remember, i don't think so.

QUOTE(creap @ Feb 22 2009, 02:52 PM)
Legendary myth. laugh.gif
I wouldnt exactly say that "Rio had him covered" becuz some strikers delay their shots while some prefer to seize the chance at a given opportunity...But I agree with what you said about PIG being a little too rash in his decision. I guess being on the bench all the time din help his confidence..

Yes, Santa Cruz is good, but we all know what Sam's teams are made out of...Just like during his Bolton days.
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But Ferdinand is pushing him wide, that would narrow his angle of shot, he would not have an empty net to aim for if Kuszczak had not rushed out

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We can't really blame the goal on PIG, we din deal with the lose ball the midfield,given Scholes experience,he should dealt with it. Kuszczak came out too early as Rio got Santa Cruz covered, mayb lack of game is the reason for his decision to came out to block the ball. IMO, goal keeper need on field experience, and Kuszczak din have those since joining us, yes he is a regular in Wes Brom but you will get rusty if din have enough game time.
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post Feb 22 2009, 03:38 PM

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i quite suprise to see SAF didnt rest key players for the inter match..does that mean he quite confident for the sansiro battle.. tongue.gif
anyone knows the website where we can see the stats in a match (shots, passings, tackles) with the position it took place in the field area.
(i remember someone posted it here before...)

QUOTE(shortleg88 @ Feb 22 2009, 03:18 PM)
did SAF actually beat him?  hmm.gif As far as i remember, i don't think so.
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what do u mean? remember this line, "pass like fletcher" tongue.gif


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post Feb 22 2009, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(shortleg88 @ Feb 22 2009, 03:18 PM)
he did well against Fulham attacking and defensive wise, think he play better at RB
did SAF actually beat him?  hmm.gif As far as i remember, i don't think so.
But Ferdinand is pushing him wide, that would narrow his angle of shot, he would not have an empty net to aim for if Kuszczak had not rushed out
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Precisely!

QUOTE(rayz1031 @ Feb 22 2009, 03:21 PM)
We can't really blame the goal on PIG, we din deal with the lose ball the midfield,given Scholes experience,he should dealt with it. Kuszczak came out too early as Rio got Santa Cruz covered, mayb lack of game is the reason for his decision to came out to block the ball. IMO, goal keeper need on field experience, and Kuszczak din have those since joining us, yes he is a regular in Wes Brom but you will get rusty if din have enough game time.
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Maybe he was a bit rusty, but still he saw the play in front of him develops. Rio was following Santa Cruz, and pushed him wide already. Why the hell did he need to come out and then crash into the tackling Rio.. doh.gif

Nani should have dealt with the loose ball, but he saw Scholes coming to it too.. guess they got mixed up. But the goal was still stoppable. Kuszczak didn't need to rush out at all. Santa Cruz was going wide.. doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(Wan @ Feb 22 2009, 03:41 PM)
Nani should have dealt with the loose ball, but he saw Scholes coming to it too.. guess they got mixed up. But the goal was still stoppable. Kuszczak didn't need to rush out at all. Santa Cruz was going wide..  doh.gif  doh.gif
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When I first saw on the TV that both are moving towards the loose ball, I was expecting the ball to be cleared off the danger area but in the end none of them actually do anything. Mis-communication on who to do it perhaps? rclxub.gif
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post Feb 22 2009, 03:46 PM

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I don't blame Kuszchak. I find it hard to do so when:

1) Nani and Scholes didn't deal with it
2) Carrick was in lala-land

He did what I would have expected of him - narrowing the angle and standing up-body wide as long as he could but when against a player of Cruz's calibre, sometimes it makes you look silly.


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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Feb 22 2009, 02:48 PM)
Without Vida and Rio wasn't too comfortable with the aerial battle, its expected I guess  sweat.gif

And is there something wrong with Evans's ankle? Its the same old ankle injury he had last time out. They better get to the bottom of it to get it sorted out properly.
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for man united quest for 4 more title this season , the 1st leg away trip to inter looks like a potential banana skin.

really hope SAF will play PJS and DF in midfield as both are reknown workhorse who could track back to assist the defence already weaken with the absent of vidic , probably scholes and carrick will feature as well . can't help thinking owen H will be a fantastic option to have with the opposition being an italian club and inter looks a big and physical side who could overrun our midfield

as much as i like bebatov to play , in such a match i feel the bulldog like tevez will be more suitable and ofcoz we'll play rooney who at this moment is indispensable

although i feel less confident with vidic not playing and seeing that evans could be injured , somehow or someway i believe man united will grind out a result or at least leave us with something to fight on , on the return leg at OT

then again CR7 will rise and soar to get us the all important away goal

all said, i will be very satisfied with us just winning the BPL and the UCL , anything more will be big big bonus which will cement the present squad and the gaffer as football IMMORTALS. impossible but yet achiveable

GGMU
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post Feb 22 2009, 04:10 PM

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Actually in the next game, i prefer Brown the most but i think he lacks of match fitness or is he injured currently? Really hope Evans is okay or else we have no choice but to play O'shea at the CB. if that so, we need to play Rafael on the RB.

Regarding P.I.G, i think SAF has his own reason why he played P.I.G instead of Foster or VDS. That reason i can think of is he wanted to give P.I.G some games, P.I.G only had 2 or 3 games this season and i feel sorry for him. He never complained he was on the bench all the time because he knows, Foster is given more priority ahead of him. It's not easy to find this kinda player and as a third choice goalkeeper i think he has done his job for the sake of the team.
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post Feb 22 2009, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Feb 22 2009, 03:46 PM)
I don't blame Kuszchak. I find it hard to do so when:

1) Nani and Scholes didn't deal with it
2) Carrick was in lala-land

He did what I would have expected of him - narrowing the angle and standing up-body wide as long as he could but when against a player of Cruz's calibre, sometimes it makes you look silly.


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Oh Hargreaves, where art thou?
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Carrick was in lala land? What was he supposed to do? Used his crystal ball and then move to cover Nani's & Scholes' asses and knew that Evra can't stop the advancing guy?

Sure the first 2 guys didn't deal with it, but it was still stoppable. Rio had him covered, barely, but still Santa Cruz was going wide.. and Kuszczak made a mess of it, crashing into Rio. Well done.

I'm not expecting him to be VDS, he's a good GK himself. But that decision to come out, and go to ground really I don't understand at all. Rio had him covered, until he made that last ditch tackle, which pushed him wide, but Kuszczak after seeing the move all the way, still decide to go to ground and crash into Rio leaving Santa Cruz with an empty net. Even Hargo with his super duper running wouldn't get in time. Kind of bizarre how you blame Carrick on that.

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Hope Manutd draw against Inter.

Manutd 1-0 Inter or Manutd 2-0 Inter..

Best results ! Hopefully draw ler considering vida will not feature against Inter.
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QUOTE(redscorpion @ Feb 22 2009, 04:54 AM)
quoting ur post from previous thread, yeap i went there to COD with someone, few weeks ago too. its too obvious eh that no one else wearing black away kit with cantona? tongue.gif
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post Feb 22 2009, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(szeki @ Feb 22 2009, 04:33 PM)
Hope Manutd draw against Inter.

Manutd 1-0 Inter or Manutd 2-0 Inter..

Best results ! Hopefully draw ler considering vida will not feature against Inter.
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Don't understand your post here.

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post Feb 22 2009, 04:59 PM

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lol he either wans to draw or win...sure la either draw or win wat else=.=
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QUOTE(Wan @ Feb 22 2009, 04:16 PM)
Carrick was in lala land? What was he supposed to do? Used his crystal ball and then move to cover Nani's & Scholes' asses and knew that Evra can't stop the advancing guy?

Sure the first 2 guys didn't deal with it, but it was still stoppable. Rio had him covered, barely, but still Santa Cruz was going wide.. and Kuszczak made a mess of it, crashing into Rio. Well done.

I'm not expecting him to be VDS, he's a good GK himself. But that decision to come out, and go to ground really I don't understand at all. Rio had him covered, until he made that last ditch tackle, which pushed him wide, but Kuszczak after seeing the move all the way, still decide to go to ground and crash into Rio leaving Santa Cruz with an empty net. Even Hargo with his super duper running wouldn't get in time. Kind of bizarre how you blame Carrick on that.
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Without the benefit of a replay, I'm pretty sure Carrick was nearest to Oojier after Scholes and Nani but was ball watching (like the rest of the defense). But then, why is Kuszchak the only one who's stupid when Nani gave the ball away, Scholes and Nani being gentlemenly over whom should clear the ball, the rest of the defense ball-watching? Because looking at your post, all 3 made mistakes but Kuszczak's the only one coming off as stupid.

It was a mess of a goal but again, as I mentioned, I don't blame Kuszczak. But again, if we were to point fingers, I'd point them at other players as well whom started the whole mess. It'd be interesting to see the opinions here if Rafael gave away the penalty. Would he be defended or hammered?

And I was mentioning Hargo in response to alien's post stating he could partner Ferdinand as a last resort. Nothing to do with Carrick's play.

P.S.: I don't like Kuszczak as our goalkeeper but I don't see how we could blame him.

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