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post Feb 22 2009, 05:12 PM

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1-1 or 2-2 not bad!but win will be the best!
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post Feb 22 2009, 05:17 PM

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But I think Inter will be a tough game regardless of which.

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post Feb 22 2009, 05:18 PM

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Wan, you need to play as a goalie to think like Kuzzie.

I'll rush out as well for the ball(which end up goal by Santa Claus)
In fact, goalie have to make decision instantly when there's breakaway/mistake(like the one Santa scored).

With Ferdinand chasing after Santa , Kuzzie need to close the angle and reduce the chances but unfortunately, Kuzzie and Ferdinand doesn't communicate!

Ferdinand and Kuzzie stupid clash if either one of them could be more vocal on it and who's doing what. And Ferdinand mistimed or failed tackled also done the damage partially as well. wink.gif

The whole defence+midfield are the one to be blame IMO. The ball watching is avoidable. Hope that goal wakes the defence up and such chances if given to Inter, be prepared to be slaughtered alive.

Rafael is still weak. His venturing upfront is good but still his defensive needs to buck up.At times I was wondering was he defending or using his body just to shield off the opponent. Yesterday match shows how vulnerable our right side with the constant bombing of Rafael upfront. You give such options to team who utilise wing play and you're dead.
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post Feb 22 2009, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Feb 22 2009, 05:07 PM)
Without the benefit of a replay, I'm pretty sure Carrick was nearest to Oojier after Scholes and Nani but was ball watching (like the rest of the defense). But then, why is Kuszchak the only one who's stupid when Nani gave the ball away, Scholes and Nani being gentlemenly over whom should clear the ball, the rest of the defense ball-watching? Because looking at your post, all 3 made mistakes but Kuszczak's the only one coming off as stupid.

It was a mess of a goal but again, as I mentioned, I don't blame Kuszczak. But again, if we were to point fingers, I'd point them at other players as well whom started the whole mess. It'd be interesting to see the opinions here if Rafael gave away the penalty. Would he be defended or hammered?

And I was mentioning Hargo in response to alien's post stating he could partner Ferdinand as a last resort. Nothing to do with Carrick's play.

P.S.: I don't like Kuszczak as our goalkeeper but I don't see how we could blame him.
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I'm not blaming him, but I think his decision making should be better, but perhaps you can blame it on lack of fitness. Scholes and Nani is the culprit, but why the hell is Carrick in the picture? I might be harsh on Nani (perhaps the reason I'm not a big fan of him), he rarely track back, not only that occasion. He was clearly nearest to the ball, yet he want he gave up the ball to Scholes which he hope can give him back for a fast break (i think). And for god's sake, he thought Scholes in his 20s, and he just played in midweek as well. Asking him to sprint at that distance is asking too much, especially he's not known for his speed even when was young.
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post Feb 22 2009, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(shortleg88 @ Feb 22 2009, 03:18 PM)
he did well against Fulham attacking and defensive wise, think he play better at RB
did SAF actually beat him?  hmm.gif As far as i remember, i don't think so.
But Ferdinand is pushing him wide, that would narrow his angle of shot, he would not have an empty net to aim for if Kuszczak had not rushed out
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it's not SAF...it's Fletcher beat Mourinho.

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yeah...that's one time....draw few and lost quite a few to Jose
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post Feb 22 2009, 06:32 PM

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tak habis2 kecoh la korang nie....we won the match, it's all that matters. u dink those footballers dunno wtf they were thinking at that time? they know it. those ppl sitting beside saf at those audi seating knows it, they'll do smfing about it. it's PIG's 2nd league match for the whole goddamn season. he aint saint, ppl make mistakes. if wanna blame anyone, blame the whole goodamn farking team. they were slacking in last nite match. now, move our @$$ to the inter UCL match in midweek. get over & done with. kids.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Feb 22 2009, 06:22 PM)
it's not SAF...it's Fletcher beat Mourinho.

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yeah...that's one time....draw few and lost quite a few to Jose
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how can i forget that doh.gif , that fluke skilled header tongue.gif
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post Feb 22 2009, 06:36 PM

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Enough guys. I think apart from Rooney everybody had a bad game yesterday, only one, one bad game this year. At least look at the bright side, we won. Job done for this week.
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Talking about Rooney, I think yesterday was the 1st time after a long time that he is taking a few shots/attempts outside the box? Did get close for a few of them.
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QUOTE(stevanistelrooy @ Feb 22 2009, 05:18 PM)
Wan, you need to play as a goalie to think like Kuzzie.

I'll rush out as well for the ball(which end up goal by Santa Claus)
In fact, goalie have to make decision instantly when there's breakaway/mistake(like the one Santa scored).

With Ferdinand chasing after Santa , Kuzzie need to close the angle and reduce the chances but unfortunately, Kuzzie and Ferdinand doesn't communicate!

Ferdinand and Kuzzie stupid clash if either one of them could be more vocal on it and who's doing what. And Ferdinand mistimed or failed tackled also done the damage partially as well. wink.gif

The whole defence+midfield are the one to be blame IMO. The ball watching is avoidable. Hope that goal wakes the defence up and such chances if given to Inter, be prepared to be slaughtered alive.

Rafael is still weak. His venturing upfront is good but still his defensive needs to buck up.At times I was wondering was he defending or using his body just to shield off the opponent. Yesterday match shows how vulnerable our right side with the constant bombing of Rafael upfront. You give such options to team who utilise wing play and you're dead.
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True. Rafael still young and he is weak when defending. He should be learning from Evra on how to defense even your size is smaller than your opponent. I can guess Rafael will sitting on bench this mid week and let experience player..well, only left O'Shea to play there.

True also the Defence and Midfield should be buck up or else they will be dominated by the likes of Vieira and Cambiaso
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post Feb 22 2009, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Feb 22 2009, 06:42 PM)
Talking about Rooney, I think yesterday was the 1st time after a long time that he is taking a few shots/attempts outside the box? Did get close for a few of them.
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He is slowly turning into Nistelrooy type of striker, in fact he has both Rooney and Nistelrooy in him.

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Let's just say IF worst case scenario where none of JOS (heel)/Brown (?)/Evans (ankle) fit in time, how should we lineup the defense? Bear in mind that Gary is out against Inter Milan as well. Unless we gamble on Rafael as RB else:

Fletcher - Rio - ? - Evra

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Sir Alex will face a serious selection dilemma should Jonny Evans be ruled out of United’s Champions League clash with Inter Milan on Tuesday.

The young defender limped off against Blackburn Rovers on Saturday evening with a reccurrence of a recent ankle injury.

“It’s a bit sore,” Evans told MUTV after the final whistle. “I kicked the ground when I tried to make a long clearance and now it’s a bit tender.

“I don’t know [if I’ll be ready for Tuesday’s game]. The doctor said he’d have a look at it on Sunday. We’ll have a better idea then.”

The Reds were always going to face the Italian champions without the suspended Nemanja Vidic, but Sir Alex was counting on Evans to plug that gap. Gary Neville and Wes Brown are also out injured, further curtailing the manager’s options in the centre of defence.

“We’ve got some injury issues,” the boss told Setanta Sports. “I just hope I can get two centre-halves fit for the match. At the moment it’s doubtful.

“I’m hoping I’ll have John O’Shea fit as I won’t have Vidic, Neville or Brown either.”

O’Shea injured his heel against Fulham last Wednesday but if neither he nor Evans is fit for Tuesday, the boss could be forced to emply unconventional measures.


Unconventional measures? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Feb 22 2009, 06:50 PM)
Let's just say IF worst case scenario where none of JOS (heel)/Brown (?)/Evans (ankle) fit in time, how should we lineup the defense? Bear in mind that Gary is out against Inter Milan as well. Unless we gamble on Rafael as RB else:

Fletcher - Rio - ? - Evra

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Fletcher - Rio - MANUCHO - Evra

But that won't happen sad.gif

Honestly, the only worst case scenario is Evra to partner Rio in the middle.

There's no option.

Fletcher - Rio - Evra - Rafael

But, SAF has lots of mind games, so Brown's gonna start.
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post Feb 22 2009, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Feb 22 2009, 06:50 PM)
Let's just say IF worst case scenario where none of JOS (heel)/Brown (?)/Evans (ankle) fit in time, how should we lineup the defense? Bear in mind that Gary is out against Inter Milan as well. Unless we gamble on Rafael as RB else:

Fletcher - Rio - ? - Evra

sweat.gif  icon_question.gif
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If that so we are so fakap. Why it is always happening before UCL game? I mean a center back issue.

But i have a strong feeling either Evan or Brown will make it.
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Feb 22 2009, 06:56 PM)
If that so we are so fakap. Why it is always happening before UCL game? I mean a center back issue.

But i have a strong feeling either Evan or Brown will make it.
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SAF already ruled out Gary AND Brown so either Evans or JOS OR someone else sweat.gif
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QUOTE(stevanistelrooy @ Feb 22 2009, 05:18 PM)
Wan, you need to play as a goalie to think like Kuzzie.

I'll rush out as well for the ball(which end up goal by Santa Claus)
In fact, goalie have to make decision instantly when there's breakaway/mistake(like the one Santa scored).

With Ferdinand chasing after Santa , Kuzzie need to close the angle and reduce the chances but unfortunately, Kuzzie and Ferdinand doesn't communicate!

Ferdinand and Kuzzie stupid clash if either one of them could be more vocal on it and who's doing what. And Ferdinand mistimed or failed tackled also done the damage partially as well. wink.gif

The whole defence+midfield are the one to be blame IMO. The ball watching is avoidable. Hope that goal wakes the defence up and such chances if given to Inter, be prepared to be slaughtered alive.

Rafael is still weak. His venturing upfront is good but still his defensive needs to buck up.At times I was wondering was he defending or using his body just to shield off the opponent. Yesterday match shows how vulnerable our right side with the constant bombing of Rafael upfront. You give such options to team who utilise wing play and you're dead.
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True. Rafael still young and he is weak when defending. He should be learning from Evra on how to defense even your size is smaller than your opponent. I can guess Rafael will sitting on bench this mid week and let experience player..well, only left O'Shea to play there.

True also the Defence and Midfield should be buck up or else they will be dominated by the likes of Vieira and Cambiaso

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