Welcome to V21!!!!!!!!!

(previous thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/915716 )



Alpha User List :

A100

A200

A300

A350

A700

A900


p.m. me if you wanna add ur name

Alpha street pricelist courtesy of albnok


>>>Sony Alpha F.A.Q<<< courtesy of Ahmike

Common Kelvin White Balance Settings :


Sony Alpha Lens Line-up : HERE courtesy of vcxv

Below are the official additional accessories* that comes with respective Sony Alpha camera :

Flash hotshoe cover (Sony FASHC1AM) - A100, A700, A900
Remote Commander clip - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700, A900
Eyepiece cover / flash hotshoe cover holder - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700
Cheap Sony neckstrap - A200, A300, A350
Good Sony neckstrap - A100, A700, A900
Wireless Infrared Remote Control - A700, A900

* list provided by albnok

Sony Alpha Support Page and Alpha User Manuals :



as usual, Alpha users who wants the userbar..

A100 :

A200 :

A300 :

A350 :

A700 :

A900 :

This post has been edited by amadeo: Mar 5 2009, 01:54 AM

so quick a.. x tido ke?

mai secawan..



coffee for V21..

cannot... now can la after smells the V21...
for hazril case.. still cannot sleep.. coz he hasnt call his gf lagi...
meh... in a moment... finishing/makeup/touch-up presso slides...

1st page pic spam ..
taken at Jong's Crocodile Farm, Kuching: the jumping crocodile ..
a bit OOF cz i manual focus on the meat ..

wat some sushi for V21....

nice...i think oof is because ur shutter nt fast enough...or the croc too fast

v21!!

This post has been edited by AlphaBeta: Feb 13 2009, 12:55 AM

OLD POST: spam spam spam ... still in page one ...

RESERVE for PIC (else SPAM)

EDITED POST: wrong reply ... shy ...

This post has been edited by ikttan: Feb 13 2009, 01:12 AM

thanks , i like tat crocodile pose .. haha

why tag my post? not my picture also
@Lehtung: btw r u using 55200 to shoot tht croc?

This post has been edited by AlphaBeta: Feb 13 2009, 01:01 AM

its my picture ..

yeah .. 55200 ..

This post has been edited by lehtung: Feb 13 2009, 01:02 AM

wah...nice one la bro....

oi oi oi...i called my gf already la...she's sound asleep...nak layan left4dead....

It was slightly front focused. Not blur due to slow shutter speed. The shutter is already sufficient @ 1/640.

hazril - thanks bro..simple pp by picasa only..

yea..i think it was too..look at the leg..haha thx for the correction..

yeah .. the leg and back so clear .. haha ..
spam again : workers collecting crocodile egg

Yea, nevertheless you managed to capture a nice moment. It'll be even nicer if you didn't chop off the left hand of the croco.

This post has been edited by vikingw2k: Feb 13 2009, 01:15 AM

Wot! Congratz on V21! OK, another shot from my trip to China:

Enter the dragon!

I had to switch DRO off to get the dark silhouette! So strong was the DRO effects of the A700.

This post has been edited by kysham: Feb 13 2009, 01:16 AM

From your exif, you were using evaluative metering? An easier way is just switch to spot metering and meter the bright sun behind

actually how the DRO works ah? i also not sure. +5 means what and +1 means what?

I wasn't too bothered with the metering actually. I just used manual and adjusted the shutter speed & aperture until I get this desired effect (it was a rare occasion where I had some time to spare...). I had tried higher shutter speeds also, but I ended up with the sky being too dark for my liking. I thought this shot was just nice, almost completely blacked out the details on the dragon.

man...how u know he is using evaluative metering??
by the exif i oni know there is a 5 there in the metering mode....

I used DRO to boost the details in the shadows. Meaning you will not get completely darkened off shadows. And the +5 indicates that the DRO was set at the highest level (meaning the camera was trying to extract the most details out of your photo). But you have to be careful because if your shot was underexposed (on purpose or otherwise), then DRO will induce a significant amount of noise into the shot.

DRO only works on jpeg files though. It doesn't have any effects on the RAW files.

oic. next time if got TT u show me more la ok.

unless u are based in sabah...then cnnot lo.

Owh ok. If your intention were to make the dragon completely black out then you can try the method I've mentioned just now. Speaking of composition, it's somehow like hanging there. Anyway nice idea to frame it with the rising sun.

guys...quite worry bout our Alpha system.....
coz recently heard tht Canon support the HD video recording fucntion....
many old-alpharian hop into other brand......
and other brands got many lenses for them to choose....
jz wanna wish tht enginner of Alpha pls design more extra function and lenses for us....

This post has been edited by neo_lam: Feb 13 2009, 01:37 AM

i dun need the HD video recording as i dun record video ..

Quite weird to record video on camera

Hehe...and you gonna buy them all?I mean the lenses

agreed 100%...not necessary needed....better incorporate better options eg:LCD hood,better LCD reso or anything which makes using a DSLR much more fun....

Well, you wouldn't know how many lenses you will be getting in future right? It's good to have a lot of choices rather than having a few choices

This post has been edited by vikingw2k: Feb 13 2009, 01:45 AM

Yup,that's right,but at the moment the range of lenses is more than enough for me And yea,I don't talk gears,I love photography,that's it

If you don't talk gears, you would have just stay with a PnS instead of upgrading to DSLR. It takes two to tango and the two main elements to tango in photography is the photographer and equipments

Good point,but I didn't mean that.I will only get those gears which enough for me,obviously PnS wasn't enough for me that's why I came into dslr world,not fancy about those high tech high end lenses,maybe I am not that rich to talk about these?I not sure

You'll start to fancy bigger and longer lenses once your wallet grow fatter, just like how you fancy DSLR over PnS once your wallet grew fatter

It's all about budget. Once you have the budget, you might consider to upgrade. If you don't have the budget, you'll give thousand of excuses to not to upgrade.

True also My next target is tamron 1750 maybe? For event photography? Earn some extra pocket money maybe

That's a sweet lens. Good lens for walkaround, weddings and event photography. Just make sure you test kaw kaw before buying as some of the copies suffer from back / front focus

I just got myself back a Tammy 17-50mm f2.8. My forth time owning this lens. Still loving the transformers focusing sound effect

Oic,should find 1 sifu together when busying this. I thought of getting it after mastering the flash skills. At my age I think some of my friends especially female friends are getting marry soon,time for me to earn $$

its true tht we cant own all the lenses....
my next target also would be Tamron 1750....nice lense....

Yes, I could try to underexpose the shot even more if I wanted the silhouette completely black. But like I said, the sky would had been too dark for my taste. Either that, or I wait for an even later time to shoot this same photo (which I wasn't too keen on). It was a setting sun, not a rising sun for this shot. But yeah, thanks for your tips. Will keep that in mind.

... and talk about gears. It is true that both Canon & Nikon had came out with video recording for some of their dslr cameras. And I foresee this trend will continue to grow. It was like what happened with liveview just a couple of years ago. Look at where the liveview technology is nowadays! Sony didn't go with the convention when they created their own liveview system. The innovation in Sony's liveview system was that it uses a separate, smaller sensor to generate the liveview picture stream. This enables the Sony cameras to focus just as fast in liveview mode as normal, non-liveview mode. You will notice that the liveview system used by Canon & Nikon will always entails a certain amount of focusing lag because they employed the actual image capturing sensor of the camera (hence defeating the conventional, much faster AF system in these cameras in the process).

Of course, in adopting the liveview system that Sony used at the moment, they paid the price of their liveview system not being able to record any video in HD mode (since the picture streamed in the liveview mode is not a high resolution stream).

So there you have it. The reason why it will not be easy for Sony to simply just add in HD video recording into the present crop of alpha cameras. But we may never know. Perhaps the next incarnation of alpha cameras will use another method to achieve HD video recording. You think Sony will want to sit still and do nothing about this new fad? I won't bet my money on thatt.....

One thing for sure, I won't decide on a camera because it has HD video recording or not. The same reason I won't decide on a camera based on if it has liveview or not. I simply don't use it enough to put it as a main reason to get a dslr. I want video, I will get a proper video cam. If I want liveview.... well, I don't really want liveview!

... again about lenses. Don't worry lah, Sony's lenses line-up is already bulging up. Sony already has the most desirable line-up of Carl Zeiss autofocus lenses that users of other systems can only drool about. The CZ2470 + A900 combo alone had caused quite a lot of working pros to switch system or maintain a 2 system working line-up. Read about it on the net. I didn't make this up myself. I think even albnok witnessed with his own eyes a working pro (who was using a full fledged Nikon system) who bought an A900.

Bottom line is, don't worry about who is jumping ship to which system. The important part is you and I are enjoying our times taking photos with our cameras. That's what count. Let Sony worry about other people not picking up the Alpha system. We are already on board, so lets relax and enjoy photography!

OK, I'm too long winded liao. Just want to release a long essay upon you guys before I hit the sack. Good night guys.

SpOOkY: Sunlight is not 2600-2800K! That's tungsten/incandescent bulb light.

chiggy, I find it odd since daylight is 5500K or so. The flash should be slightly warmer at maybe 6500K.

Superb shot, lehtung! The crocodile is kinda cute jumping up and reaching for it like that!

sidewinderz: A brighter lens will let the camera detect focus faster.

I am a night shooter but F2.8 is not bright enough; gotta have at least F1.8.

neo_lam: Use Live View to set the Kelvin WB - it is really helpful! Once you get the hang of it, you'll know that 4500K M6 is a flourescent tube, for example, or 2700K is an orange bulb...

0168257061: The Carl Zeiss 16-35mm F2.8 SSM ultra-wide angle full-frame lens is supposed to have a higher price point than both the 24-70mm and 70-200mm lenses. The price is not released yet, but my personal estimate is RM6xxx. Remember that it's a Zeiss and they've always been strong on wide-angle lenses. The Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM has already started selling elsewhere, so it should be very soon that the 16-35mm would be for sale.

And yay, I made it to page 2!

very long essay woo syam...

p/s:IF got a lot of money,can just buy all the company and make it one giant company...i ripit IF got a lot of money...later sure ada yg bangang critic my post....

question about shashinki ...
how to pay using credit card at shashinki ?
quite confusing with it , in payment information page only got
- public bank
- maybank and .etc

credit card payment is made through paypal , then what should i choose ?

if i pay through RHB online banking , where should i put their email address and how to prove to them tat i had paid ?

You're just one call / one sms away to Shashinki to clear your doubts.

Don't worry, they won't swallow you if you are first timer.

bagi hantam dia panjang2.....!

ok lah. tido time. good night guys!

What you guys hantam-ing?

i had sent an email to them already
just wanna ask those who have experience buying from shashinki here ..

edit: swt .. email replied ..

This post has been edited by lehtung: Feb 13 2009, 02:38 AM

What are you planning to get from them?

blower and lenspen ..

Why don't you get from those shops in Sgwang / LYP?

wow...nice and long comment.....
really kena hentam kao kao by u lah kysham.....
now oni i realised tht we r photographing....not plyin with techs.....
those problem should let Sony settle not us....
but pretty sure Sony wont let them laugh too long lah....

Melaka Night Shooting-(1).....C&C pls..
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i'm currently in Sarawak..
around how much the price for both things in KL ?
if there is quite big different then i will consider buying it in KL during march ..

here are both things i am trying to buy:
Lenspen Standard Original
Matin Super Giant Blower

Melaka Night Shooting-(2).....C&C pls..
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this IS low yat =p inevitable that tech talk will dominate.

would like to see more discussion on method in this thread though.

This post has been edited by luzzio: Feb 13 2009, 02:59 AM

Well, that depends. Even if the name of this place sounded so, it still boils down to the residents here to make it to look like it or otherwise

amadeo, u didnt bring albnok's post about WB setting ka?

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Added on February 13, 2009, 3:22 amim not a big fan of sony, so idont care if sony doesnt produce HD video recording DSLR..because i really dont need it for the time being..if two years from now sony didnt produce that function also, and that time i need that function, i dont mind to change to another system..

im choosing the brand because of the quality and the value for money, not because the brand itself..

dont worry, every ship got their own marketing strategy..

haha..sorry for merepek2 di pagi hari..LOL..

This post has been edited by vandechrome: Feb 13 2009, 03:22 AM

so can i know wat makes u buy Alpha system??
jz curious wanna know y all bros here like Sony.....
for me i like Sony coz of its natural colour looking pictures....
and i am using their PnS since year 2004....
and i love Alpha logo....damn yeng lah....

half-year bak... i heard bout their minolta colors last time... n their good entry level camera..
won award somemore... n price-wise quite good with my always insufficient budget...
afterall... i oso been using sony pns since 2000 lagi.. aahha.. slowly build own brand poison..
hahhaah.. but not really la.. i did my mini research comparing like D60 la this la that la..
then i came to conclusion A350.. but last minute i changed my mine to get A300 instead..

i hate that weird senget bench coz it's papan kinda show the horizon..
yet it is senget... if the floor for me does matter la.. somewhat i dun like it coz kinda annoying to my eyes..
just my 2 cents only

This post has been edited by dingenius3: Feb 13 2009, 05:36 AM

bro kysham: hope you dont mind,i like the pic but i think the silhouette can be darker, right now, i still see quite a fair bit of the dragon, maybe it is just me, i prefer a almost total black silhouette.

besides, the bottom part of the dragon looks abit confusing, the legs is overlapping the body causing it to look like 1 piece of something only. try avoiding having overlaps in silhouette? i think it will look perfect..
nice shot!just my 2 cent...

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Added on February 13, 2009, 7:37 amsorry bro, i commented before i read this post.


Bro albert:sorry i cant recall if i did mention that sunlight is 2600k ...but this is what i posted in v20:
2600k - halogen (car headlight)
4300k - daylight in the morning
6000k - pure white
8000k - white + bluish
1000k - purplish+ pinkish
something like that
sorry for any confusion...



This post has been edited by Sp00kY: Feb 13 2009, 07:43 AM

someone sell his f58 for rm800.......

where?

Got some photos to share but my company's proxy doesn't allow uploading

Don't worry about commenting on my photos. I love comments. It helps me improve. It is not like as if I'm the best photographer in the world and that I posted up my shots to impress you guys. Come on.... I posted it up to share and hopefully if you guys have any idea how to improve it, then you guys can give me the suggestion to improve it, like what bro vikingw2k and yourself is doing. I like it!

And you are right about the bottom of the photo being a bit messy. Hmm... I was trying to give it a bit of "ground" to anchor the dragon. Actually I initially called this photo "The Rise of the Dragon" in my flickr site. But looks like the "ground" part where the dragon is supposed to rise from is a bit too messy. Thanks for the pointers!

DAMMIT!! i lost the opportunity to snap some piccies of LTDL...
just now at kepong-bandar sri damansara area...
i got stuck in the traffic jam as the police blocked it since 8:40-9:30...
i wished i could turned bak n grab my cam~~
i took video instead with my handphone.. LOLZ...

ps: lesson of the day = bring ur camera everywhere !!

I once took a photo while I was inside a public toilet! Well, the view outside the public toilet @ 438 meters high was spectacular! So yes, try to bring your camera with you as much as possible. You never know when photo opportunity will come!

This post has been edited by kysham: Feb 13 2009, 09:55 AM

i was stuck at PBD there. Din know they close the other side of the road also.. Tot can rush there after my class at 9 to get some shots. Had to detour out to NPE instead to get back home.

hi guys need your opinion.. what is the best deal? get a new a700 body stick to kitlens or buy a 16-80mm Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* and stick to a100 body..
thanks alot

This post has been edited by seram: Feb 13 2009, 11:07 AM

bought a200 because its really worth for my budget and my so called noob in photography..it has everyting in one body just for oni rm1999 (last time i bought la). i like it because all control button can be reached by my right fingers, so i can change my setting faster..what i like most is where the dial toggle located, very comfortable to use it rather than nikon's and canon's..

and i can have such a big community and free workshop!

This post has been edited by vandechrome: Feb 13 2009, 11:08 AM

For me, I would save up a bit more for a Full Frame and the CZ 24-70mm F2.8, the 16-80 is nice but it's still a DT lens. Sorry, I kena FF poison bad so my next upgrade is FF or bust! My A100 will be the only cam until then, hehehehe.

hi shootkk thanks for the advise..
we have a same gear but upgrade from a100 to a900 with cz 24-70 is too muchh money spend aledi.. 9k for body and 6k for lens wow.. 15k

hi guys,congrats on the new thread!

i'm planning to buy a tripod soon,my budget is around RM200+

any recommendations?

Aiyah, slowly lar.... save first for the FF. May not be A900... who knows Sony may just intro a budget FF, hehehehehe. Then only save up for the CZ lor.... I have one FF lens that I can use - my KM50mm F/1.7

shootkk, if you let the FF poison flow in your body for too long without cure, then it will become maligned....

anyone know ihsan_29 contact number?

can u tell me wat is LTDL??

LTDL = Le Tour de Langkawi

anyone know ihsan_29 contact number?

shootkk, on one hand, you only have one full-frame lens.

On the other hand, you only have one APS-C lens.

i hate that weird senget bench coz it's papan kinda show the horizon..
yet it is senget... if the floor for me does matter la.. somewhat i dun like it coz kinda annoying to my eyes..
just my 2 cents only

thanks your comment..

Just curious, if you hate it, why do you still want to shoot it then?

Perhaps you could work out more on the composition rather than clicking away.

Apply some Rule or Third, once you mastered it, break it!

Like that 'ngam, ngam' lar...

I put the 50mm on the FF and it can take candid's with just right framing.
I put the 18-250 on the APS-C for wide angle
If push comes to shove, I put the 18-250 on the FF for better high ISO performance.
And the 50mm on the APS-C becomes and short telephoto that's good for portraits.

That's is until I get the 24-70mm.... THEN I will be clawing for a FF telephoto!

That's why my lens wishlist is just the 24-70 plus the 70-300. Coz that's all I'll need.

thx !
i'm still a beginner and noob in SLR , now still in learning process ..

"i hate that weird senget bench coz it's papan kinda show the horizon..
yet it is senget... if the floor for me does matter la.. somewhat i dun like it coz kinda annoying to my eyes..
just my 2 cents only " this is comment from dingenius3 .. bro..

"thanks your comment.." this is my reply....

my reply lost some words or quote.... misunderstanding.. haha sorry.. anyway, thanks your comment too.

You're most welcome. Think before you snap. Try a variety of angles to see which one is nice.

Ok guys, Common White Balance settings by albnok are now on the first page...

guys.. new product?
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=931129&hl=