Use 3M instead... My car is not hot under the sun for half day... I got the sample tinting with me as they provided.

Nice pics, ZeroSP.
How good are those 3M mats.. anything special about it?

Random! Been seeing a few new City's on the road, and damn I must say it's a handsome car. Park it next to a Vios and the Vios looks positively shite.

Those 3M mats have rubber dots down there, so it will not move easily. And 3M mats can trap the dust or sands upon you step your shoes on it, and you can just clean it by vacuum or just use a brush. Simple and easy. They cut to fit your car.

Clocked up about 800 km on my new baby already, and this is what I have to report on my car...

1. Fuel consumption - City driving = 11.2km/L... Highway driving = 15.3km/L. The best I could manage was 17.1km/L at one point. hehe..

2. Ride is a little too bumpy for my liking, but car feels quite stable when taking sharp corners at speed.

3. The rubber lining outside the car at the top my front windscreen is coming off, i just noticed it a while ago. Managed to fiddle with it a little and tuck it back in. Will complain to my SA.

4. Engine seems is quite noisy, not sure if its because the engine hasn't "break in", or poor sound dampening. Engine is quite silent if u tap gently on your accelerator/at lower speeds, but when you try to overtake or when you climb steep hills, the engine sound becomes very obvious.

5. No complaints on the cooling of the air-conditioning - yes it still can't beat my old Wira in terms of cooling effect, but its good enough for me. And yes, as chris_x mentioned, yes, its a little loud at 3rd / 4th speed.

6. I'm not sure if my alarm is working. Will have to check with technician / SA. I've tried doing what tai kor andyjyneo suggested - i.e; sit in the car, activate alarm and start moving - I can't seem to hear anything... Or is it the alarm is too soft to be heard?!?

7. In D mode, gear response is pretty satisfactory.

8. In S mode, there seems to be a slight time lag when using the paddle shifters. It takes maybe 1-2 secs before u feel the gears change.

9. Agreed with tillerman - the rear and front driving view is hard to judge despite a week driving my car.

10. I went to quickly check my bumper after reading bro chris_x's comment on his slipped bumper - it's still pretty much in tact, thank god.!

mind sharing the spec of the 3M tint, esp the infra red rejection?

at the same time, TS might want to add in some more reference

http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/LSERIESG2/index.html
(might give a rough idea how much new city's km/l)

and some review
http://asia.vtec.net/Reviews/3GCityFirst/index.html

tillerman,
thanks for the feedback!
tint
it could be the vkool installation was not really proper, causing the heat not rejected well or the tint is yet to be fully functional ?

FC wise
we should be looking at 18km/L, at least... (referring to TOV's technical review of L15A)

Nice. Think I might get one. Can preserve my original Honda mats..
Ok, you've prolly mentioned it before (but im too lazy to scroll back to the pages).. how much did it cost u?
and where did you get it done?

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Added on January 27, 2009, 11:08 pmLol.. eventhough I'm a City owner, but I don't think the Vios it 'that' bad.
The only thing that turned me off about the Vios was it fugly behind (the lights were atrocious) and the somewhat dated interior. Besides that, I have no qualms about it. Ok, maybe the 4AT too..

This post has been edited by sysh: Jan 27 2009, 11:08 PM

Say, anyone planning on chaning their air filter element(but not the whole air box) soon? I'm researching to check whether the size is different from the previous city and current jazz.

Seremban

i dun know. they said some tinting like stick a screen protector on your screen right? but this type is look like the windscreen is "sprayed" with black/blue colour..
for tinting, he said cost RM1K. the best discount ..
for leather seats, i'm not going to get it. quite a waste of money. probably will change to leather after 3-4 years ...
what should i request for some more? pls advise. going there on thursday

think i'll respond to u thru pm.. easier to type..

hmm, actually after changing all screen window still manage to get to spot out few minor dust. The most obvious is at front ant rear. I still feel that not satisfy.

When you said look for them back, which v-kool service center you are refering to that your father car dun find such problem for v-kool tinting? I fixed mine at Jalan Meru Klang, Klang, Selangor. wonder how can I totally not get any problem like dust, bubble or soap spot that they did not fix this problem even after redo?

This post has been edited by tillerman: Jan 28 2009, 12:01 AM

1. Honda cars are tuned more towards sportier ride while Toyota is tuned towards comfort. That's why Honda cars usually have good handling but sacrifice on comfort while Toyota cars are good on comfort but not so great on handling.

2. Your fuel consumption is good. You should be able to achieve 480km on a full tank easily. If it's on highway, I think hitting 600km also no problem.

3. The front parking sensor for the Altis isn't good but isn't as sensitive as I like it to be. If you want to get front sensors, I suggest u get 4 cell version as those will be more sensitive.

My question and opinion:

- What is the total range you can go for one full tank pump? How much is your one fuel tank pump?
- Anyone have the best way to have highest FC? I was wondering that is NHC possible to beat to beat IDSI which make record of 26.9KM/L? If it isn't, it should at least make it to near 21km/l to 24km/l
- Sharp corner is stable!
- The rubber lining is peeling off too. I forgot to state this just now. Will complain to my SA too
- Honda website and advertisement promises better aircond feature such as quietness and faster cooling compare to previous gen, but doesn't sound promising. No matter how will complain to my SA.
- For the alarm you have to wait for a momeny till it be initiated 10 to 15 seconds, then you will find it working. No matter how soft it was when u stand outside of the car or sitting inside this car you will still hear it.
- Wonder if anyone facing problem when driving up to hill when. When you stop your car up toward a hill, which your car is narrow up, in D mode gear, anyone car start dropping back? Heard from one of my friend having this problem. So far I just tested in normal hill not those Genting type. Heard that this is because NHC is too heavy 1140 for S spec and 1160kg for E spec.
- S mode eat up a lot of fuel. Lagging for 1 seconds will take, may be this is because of DBW tech???
- Yes rear and front is really crazy man!! Possible if can get front sensor will be good : ) but still we have to wait till warranty is over.

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Added on January 28, 2009, 12:17 amI feel that in city driving it is painful. FC is not efficient. I never hit 480km range, but the most is 400 +- Km ( this is adding up city and highway driving~~ so sad)

4 Cell version? hmm, wonder if install this kind of accesories will void warranty? I believe that it involve a lot of wiring. Do you or anyone have any idea on pricing and information about this? I saw once on Mercedes E class of my friend car, the sensor was good and they have light indicator on this Merc dashboard

Hope to hear more from you guys

This post has been edited by tillerman: Jan 28 2009, 12:17 AM

Think after we pool all the niggles and minor problems that we have experienced with the City, we should write / type in to Honda Malaysia so that they can rectify this problem for the next batches..and in the mean time, repair the 1st batch. Anyhow these things are quite normal. The price you pay for being in the exclusive '1st batch'

1. The most i get was 12.2km/l only. As long as I stay on highways (with no jam) longer the FC is lesser. =(

2. Unlike Toyota, Honda is made for better handling and therefore reduces comfort.

3. No problem with the bumpers but the double sided tape of my rear car plate is peeling off. Wondering if during service they can stick it again for me.

4. That's normal for the NHC.

5. Agree. Alarm is too soft.

6. No problem with a/c. Cools pretty fast but when turn to both leg and front cooling it is loud.

7. When "tekan" engine revs up to around 4k rpm and is loud (noisy). Got no paddle shift (Grade S)

8. Handbrake seems stiff but doesn't lock the tires hard enough. Need to do some adjustments during 1k service.

9. Quality of production in terms of workmanship is pretty poor. Nothing much can do about it I guess.

Wanna ask you guys. If I am to do tinting and waxing, technically which 1 should I go for first?

Any idea how do we know when they're producing second batch and we're getting second batch? From the SA? HM?

By the way guys there is a question I wanted to ask long ago, why is there necessary to cover up our number plate when posting picture? Mind explaining please?

Yes, please. Because you don't want to attract unnecessary attentions to see what's your car like and have.

Good idea. Anyone have the idea how to do this and how to make it effective. I believe there were much more problem yet to come, just need time to explore around, but last time I heard that we need to make a team or a big group before they can actually or focus on our complains.

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Added on January 28, 2009, 1:33 amNo idea on that. For the car plate, hidden means, the necessity of privacy. : )

This post has been edited by tillerman: Jan 28 2009, 01:33 AM

Hi All, thanks for the input & comments. This thread is really useful as I'm considering the new City too. So far based on the info in this thread, below are common problems raised.

1) Engine loud when press hard
2) Floating feeling
3) Aircond noise high or not cold fast enough
4) Alarm too soft / no panic alarm button

Just curious. Before the new City, what car are you guys driving?
For 42 litres petrol tank, I think 450-500 kms is not bad at all.
I believe after the engine has run-in, hitting 600kms is possible?

There are few more consideration:
- Unstable RPM when going up hill
- Recommendation of V-Kool as their authorized tinting is not a good idea, as I have face bad service and bad manner in talking to me and customers. Found dust and end result of tinting were not fine (even after redo the whole car), as there were bubble and soap stain in tinting film (Somemore it was at front screen, image this!)
- Bumpy feeling.
- Dangerous Wiper washing nozzle which shoot out soap to your front screen as it was sharp
- plastic\ rubber at top is peeling off by itself.