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post Jan 28 2009, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(sysh @ Jan 28 2009, 12:40 AM)
Think after we pool all the niggles and minor problems that we have experienced with the City, we should write / type in to Honda Malaysia so that they can rectify this problem for the next batches..and in the mean time, repair the 1st batch. Anyhow these things are quite normal. The price you pay for being in the exclusive '1st batch'
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Hi All, thanks for the input & comments. This thread is really useful as I'm considering the new City too. So far based on the info in this thread, below are common problems raised.

1) Engine loud when press hard
2) Floating feeling
3) Aircond noise high or not cold fast enough
4) Alarm too soft / no panic alarm button

Just curious. Before the new City, what car are you guys driving?
For 42 litres petrol tank, I think 450-500 kms is not bad at all.
I believe after the engine has run-in, hitting 600kms is possible?


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post Jan 28 2009, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(tillerman @ Jan 28 2009, 01:58 AM)
There are few more consideration:
- Unstable RPM when going up hill
- Recommendation of V-Kool as their authorized tinting is not a good idea, as I have face bad service and bad manner in talking to me and customers. Found dust and end result of tinting were not fine (even after redo the whole car), as there were bubble and soap stain in tinting film (Somemore it was at front screen, image this!)
- Bumpy feeling.
- Dangerous Wiper washing nozzle which shoot out soap to your front screen as it was sharp
- plastic\ rubber at top is peeling off by itself.
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Yup, sorry forgot the rubber lining peeling off thingy which is quite an obvious defect. I've tried Ecotint service & its quite good. There's no bubble or visible dust & it has last for over 6 yrs now. I hope their service stays the same. I'll most likely use Ecotint again on my new car in future.


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post Jan 28 2009, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(D'stalker @ Jan 28 2009, 09:21 PM)
Hi,

I'm a newcomer to this forum and yes a NHC user. Just got the baby E-SPEC PMM colored last week, now already clocked more than 1400km, with driving 70% highway, 30% city/rural. My findings:

1. Suspension is quite hard/stiff & at rear can feel quite bumpy.

2. The highest FC I got as in the VID is 18.5km/l, the lowest is around 11km/l, with max speed 120-130km/hr.

3. The range info which tell u how far more the can go before the tank emptied is quite misleading. I had my fuel indicator light appeared at the range around 80km. In the manual, it stated that when the fuel indicator appear, you shall have around 6-7 litres left in the tank. When the range goes down to 30km, my 5km trip to the petrol station saw the range figure drop from 30km to 10km. And when refuel, it takes me around 33 liters to full it up. Very confusing. Sure gonna ask at 1st service (yes, belum service lagi....)

4. FC i think quite good. After a distance of 497km, it takes me RM58 @ 32.3ltr to refill back the tank. Mind you if the tank truly of 42ltr max, then I still have at least 9 liters left before refuel. So I think 600km for a full tank is not impossible.

5. 95% I stay in D mode. Once in a while in highway I downshift (but still in D mode) to overtake. When you you downshift, there is delay around 1 sec before you feel the changes.

Haven't done my 1st service due to CNY leave. But has confirmed with my SA that it's OK as they are not gonna do any part replacement (oil/filter etc) at 1st service. Just inspection only.

As for now, I'm quite happy this new car....
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Good info/review here. I agree with the FC which is possible to reach 600kms. 400-450kms for full tank is almost similar to my Wira 1.5A which is quite unlikely considering the much newer engine used & the 5AT gearbox. To "soften" the engine noise, is installing sound dampening material at the car's firewall or the engine compartment sufficient? I think so far my major concerns are on the aircond coolness & loud engine noise only. I believe other QC issues can be fixed by service centres except probably the floating feeling. I sat in the previous CVT City before, it feels much more bumpy than current City which I test drive ..


Added on January 28, 2009, 9:51 pmSorry, a dumb Q, where's the switch to on the fog lamp in the NHC?


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post Jan 28 2009, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(D'stalker @ Jan 28 2009, 09:59 PM)
it's the 1/3-inch wide inner ring next to the head lamp switch...u can sure it's on or not by the indicator at the cockpit...I bet in the manual it's stated...
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Just fyi, I haven't got the NHC yet as I'm still considering. That's why am following this thread closely for more info.

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post Jan 29 2009, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(sysh @ Jan 28 2009, 11:32 PM)
IMHO, I think alot of people are experiencing this sort of problem 'cos they 'expect' the car to be perfect. I noticed the NVH for both the Honda City and Jazz using the L15A engine to be a little harsh. In terms of gear change, since we are so used to the CVT box.. now that you can 'feel' the change, alot of ppl say that's no good. I do agree that there are still a little niggle and bumps (ie. peeling rubber strips, door padding got gap etc).. but I guess no car's perfect. The 8G Civic has sh|t loads of problems initially, but still heaps load of ppl have bought it. The same will go with this City. At the end of the day, there will still be grievances...but I think we'll be able to live with it.


Added on January 28, 2009, 11:33 pm
Besides the Honda City, what other cars are you still considering?
Maybe we can help 'persuade' u..hehe!  whistling.gif
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I do hope they can rectify or minimize the QC issues in coming batches. That's 1 of the things that's holding me back from doing the booking now .. wink.gif

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post Jan 29 2009, 08:13 PM

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Anymore pics on the NHC to share? How's the look of NHC parking next with a Vios or Latio or Sentra? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(lkhoe @ Jan 29 2009, 11:26 PM)
I think it would be helpful if those who faced problems mentioned earlier, such as sagging bumper, tint bubbles or what not, to post a pic of how bad it looks.

Did another test drive today in Ipoh, and yeah the aircond is loud and alarm is quite soft, but to me it seems quite tolerable. Really enjoyed the paddle shift.

The degree of loudness of the engine depends on personal taste coz I've driven the Wira, Merc, CRV and Vios quite often, and they all are loud when accelerating hard. Can't expect too much from a 1.5L eh?

I've booked another test drive tomm in Shah Alam, so will rev it up kaukau along kesas b4 making my final decision.
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Do share with us again after your test drive tmr esp in terms of performance (pickup), noise, etc..
I feel that aircond noise at level 3 & 4 will be loud in all cars ..



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post Jan 30 2009, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(lkhoe @ Jan 30 2009, 12:21 PM)
Did the test drive today. Speed was good n turning at roundabouts great. Kena by speed gun on d way but SA din say anything.. hehe. In d end made d booking for E spec. Shld arrive in March as part of 5th batch.
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How do u know ur car in March will be in 5th batch? How do they differentiate by batches?



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QUOTE(silverarrows @ Jan 30 2009, 02:15 PM)
Heard the service sifu said it was due to disc brakes which is not as tight as the drum breaks... same "problem" with Civic or Accord? So I didn't do any adjustment on it.
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I beg to disagree. This should be fixed by them imho.

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QUOTE(foocy2001 @ Jan 31 2009, 11:05 AM)
i) Yes. A good tint is absolutely necessary. Ecotint is good. Make sure side windows are security tint.
ii) PPS coating is a great idea. Our tropical climate does nasty things to the paint. Great shine factor and also help if lazy to wax, like me.
iii) Get a good alarm system (change siren as well). Void the warranty of the alarm system!! Prefer to void the alarm warranty than to lose the car.

The above is exactly what I'll do when I get the car. Other mods can wait but these 3 are first priority.
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For "security tint" for 4 side windows, what are the recommended brands? Does Ecotint has this "security tint" as well?
Some mentioning abt the RM1.5k package for Ecotint (front/rear are ray barrier).

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QUOTE(anson81 @ Feb 1 2009, 12:02 AM)
yes, ecotint does have the security film, called hybrid version, if not mistaken got hybrid 4 and hybrid 6 which the number represent the mil, 4 mil or 6 mil etc.
i am the one who mention the front and back raybarrier. and yes... my SA is my fren and he offer the best deal to me....
About the "PPS", anyone can explain how many brand are available out there? and how much?

About the GPS security, anyone can explain too??

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Thanks for the info. Front/rear raybarrier & sides "hydrid 4" will be a good choice then.

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post Feb 5 2009, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(cppau @ Feb 4 2009, 06:06 PM)
For example, when u pass through a bump or hump. I realise the gear remains at 3rd gear instead of 2nd gear, so i need to press slightly harder on pedal to get it going. Another example- when u going uphill, the gear will change very fast like 1st, 2nd, 3rd so there isn't enough power to go uphill. I need to press harder on the pedal to change 2nd gear and when i release abit on the pedal, it change back to 3rd gear. Is this normal to u all? Hope u all get what i mean. lol.
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This is what I feel when I test drive the NHC last time. Maybe as some say, we should slowly let the speed to build up & not pressing the pedal too hard or too sudden?


Added on February 5, 2009, 7:27 am
QUOTE(sysh @ Feb 4 2009, 07:12 PM)
Oic. Honestly I've not encountered any problem like this.
No sudden jerk or unstable rpm.
But as always, I'll experiment tonight  nod.gif
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Could this the reason ur FC is higher than the rest? Just guessing since it seems ur car is much "smoother" to drive .. rclxub.gif hmm.gif


Added on February 5, 2009, 7:37 amI saw quite a number of NHC on the road these few days. Do u notice the size of the car looks much smaller on the road compared in the showroom or photos? The front looks grand but the rear seems too compact & looks even smaller than a vios/latio/jazz or the previous gen of City.




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QUOTE(dstyx @ Feb 5 2009, 09:28 PM)
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Comparison between NHC & Civic.
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Thanks. Any comparison from the rear?


Added on February 7, 2009, 7:38 am
QUOTE(tillerman @ Feb 5 2009, 07:34 PM)
Send to my car for 1k KM service. So far nothing been change but they did fix my complain:

-Tyre sound. Unable to fix it is from the Good Year tyre.
-At top of the car, we have two line of right hand side and left hand side of plastic. This two is peeling of by itself. They said that it cause by the clip is not fix properly. They have ordered for my car, will wait for their news.
-Car allignment for 2nd time, the car allignment is fixed for free as long as your car does not exceed 3000KM trip.
-Air conditioning not cold enough. They have change the compresor and ensure the gas for air con is full and new. Improve air conditioning.
-Aircond sound. This is unable to fix due to it manufacturing defaulted setting. They tested on new batch of NHC and the first batch of NHC, when both tested, blowing on foot and face the sound is kind of annoying. Hope that Honda Malaysia will get some bug fixing for this problem.
-Engine high FC. They have resetted and tune the FC by computer. I do not know how they did it but, they said its done. I will try out and see whether the FC really improving. Still they said FC will improve after 5k and 10k KM trip services.
-My bumper with some stone hit deep into bumper during delivering the  car to me. They fixed my bumper by redo paint job on the whole bumper (Front). Everything is as good as new.
-Car is bumpy. This can't be fixed but however they tried to reduce the bumpy feel by doing something, so far felt better.

Hope no more problem after this. Cross my finger XD
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So soon already change the compressor? shocking.gif
Do you know what they actually did to reduce the bumpiness?
Thanks.


Added on February 7, 2009, 7:43 am
QUOTE(love_hina @ Feb 5 2009, 10:37 PM)
I haven't.. but my car is in their shop now.. i supposed?
i got the number already ... select number at jpj few days ago  blush.gif

today SA called me to pay the rest of the balance 47k .. i can see my car tomorrow..  drool.gif
*still waiting for interest rate go down*  icon_rolleyes.gif  laugh.gif

o.. got offered ecotint 1.3k .. reasonable??
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Ecotint 1.3k is Raybarrier all round or just front/rear windows?


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QUOTE(mr_anwar @ Feb 9 2009, 12:30 AM)
Wow! How about the tyre noise?
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I notice the tyre used is different between S & E-spec. E-spec is using GY Excellence whereas S-spec's tyre is GY NCT3. GY Excellence is better than GY NCT3 in terms of comfort, noise level, grip, etc. Do correct me if I'm wrong.

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QUOTE(sysh @ Feb 9 2009, 12:59 AM)
I thought S-Spec is using GY GT3?
Since my bro has an S-Spec, sat in it earlier today and didnt feel any difference in terms of noise level as compared to my E-Spec's GY Excellence
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Oops, thanks for the correction.

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QUOTE(new citizen @ Feb 10 2009, 09:19 PM)
this is from HM? cover under warranty as well? rather expensive ya...
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Pricey .. sad.gif

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QUOTE(anson81 @ Feb 11 2009, 11:30 AM)
guys, sharing some picture of my babes,

one of the picture is driving my NHC and saw another lady's owner blue NHC with Modulo kits, Enjoy

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Uh, the blue color NHC looks quite ok too ..
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QUOTE(cppau @ Feb 15 2009, 07:17 PM)
We need change our driving method in order to get use to NHC, this will help you to get better FC. When the first time i drove NHC, the car control me and now i control the car coz i getting use to it already.
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Hi, mind to elaborate on your theory? rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(mugen_tech @ Feb 15 2009, 11:08 PM)
Nice! biggrin.gif
But price difference between NHC & Civic is quite far apart. With this new facelift, it might be even bigger (extra RM30k?)


Added on February 15, 2009, 11:24 pm
QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Feb 15 2009, 11:20 PM)
Yes, you're right. It's coming out mid next month.
I must say that not much changes. Minor engine tuning, rear lamp and front bumper. That's all.

No, please don't cancel order. Stick to your decision. You'll ask me why, then allow me to explain.
1. Once you've cancelled, there's no way to go back UNLESS you re-order. That makes you have to wait again.
2. You're actually prolong your waiting period by jumping ship to order Civic.
3. Save your money for better use in future. It's not a right time to upgrade now unless you've thought long ago.
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I agree especially on pt 3 above.


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QUOTE(aquilaTE @ Feb 15 2009, 11:24 PM)
The overall appearance of the facelifted Civic from the previous is a small difference in my point of view.

Err... what do you mean " it might be bigger"?
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I mean the price gap might even be bigger now between NHC & the facelifted Civic .. (RM30k?) blush.gif


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