Introduction

Announced at Nokia's Remix event in London, at the beginning of October, the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic is a mid-range, music focused phone, running S60 5th Edition on Symbian OS 9.4, with a 3.2 megapixel camera, integrated GPS, WiFi and HSDPA connectivity, and a 3.2 inch touch screen. It's the last item on this feature list which draws attention to what would otherwise be a fairly standard mid range phone.

For the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic is one of Nokia's most widely talked about (and leaked) phones of recent memory. There's no doubt that it is going to garner attention, coming in the wake of the recent spate of touch phones, including, of course, the Apple iPhone. While it's not Nokia's first touch phone (Nokia 7700/7110) or its first recent touch device (Nokia N810), it is the first S60 touch enabled phone and is a significant landmark in Nokia's mobile device story. However, it is worth noting from the start that it is not "Nokia's touch phone", instead it is the first in a portfolio of touch enabled phones from Nokia. This is an important distinction because, while the 5800 can tell us much about Nokia's touch platform generally, it can only be fairly assessed in the context of its own market positioning (music focused, cost of 279 Euro before taxes and subsidies).



General Design and Hardware

The 5800, at 111 x 51.7 x 15.5 mm, is a reasonably small package. It is similar in size to the N78 (113 x 49 x 15.1 mm), but slightly heavier at 109g versus 102g. Volume wise, the 5800 is bigger at 83 cc compared to the N78 at 76.5 cc; it does feel bigger in the hand, mainly due to the greater taper on its edges. While the 5800 is significantly bigger than the typical mid-range phone and would do well to be thinner, it compares favourably to other smartphones and does not feel over sized.

Thanks to its relatively narrow width it is, proportionally, closer to the traditional candy bar shape (long rectangle) than most touch screen based phones (short rectangle). If you think of your typical candybar smartphone, remove the keypad and lengthen the screen and you'll get pretty close to the feel of the 5800. The key advantage of this shape is that, for most people, it will be possible to use the device with just one hand; even those with smaller fingers should be able to reach all points on the screen.



The 3.2 megapixel camera focuses well and takes great pictures in daylight -- indoors is likely a different story, as with most cameraphones, but there's a rather powerful dual LED flash to help out with that.



All of this -- in addition to things like GPS, WiFi and a side-loading microSD slot (there's a free 8GB card included) -- are wrapped up into an elongated, chubby package, hence the Tube moniker. We'd hate to have something of its shape and thickness in a tight jeans front pocket on a regular basis, but we must admit that it's very comfortable to hold and use with a single hand, something that can't be said for all touchscreen phones.

Software

It's S60, so if you were hoping for something else you'll be sorely disappointed. Nokia's done "just enough" to turn the traditional interface into a touchable one with version 5.0, sizing up icons, adding finger-friendly buttons in lieu of traditional menu items and so forth. What Nokia hasn't quite figured out is consistency, requiring double taps in some places, single taps in others. Scrolling through most lists requires dragging a scroll bar, pulling down as the list flies up, but the browser has touch and drag scrolling. Nothing's too frustrating or unreasonable, but this is no seamless experience.



What's new is a touch-sensitive button above the screen that drops down the Media Bar for access to music, movies, photos, the browser and sharing. Not life changing, but quite convenient. There's also a new home screen with a "Fav Four" of sorts across the top and little else. Tap that friend, and you can get a quick look at recent calls, messages and even related RSS feeds. Pretty neat if you're a loner, but there's no way to add more than four friends, or view similar info for your regular contacts that don't make the cut. Luckily, the traditional S60 home screen is also available.



For text input you have four options: handwriting, mini QWERTY keyboard, full screen QWERTY and alphanumeric keypad. The first two are stylus-based (that mini QWERTY is truly mini), while the other two are only available in landscape and portrait modes, respectively. Like we said in the hardware end of things, the resistive touch means using the tips of your fingers instead of the pads, which we find a tad frustrating, but the keyboard in landscape mode is truly gargantuan, and after an hour or two of learning we're guessing you could rattle off some pretty lengthly emails or Great American Novels. Luckily, if you're a T9 fan there's nothing stopping you from keeping the phone in portrait mode and rattling off text messages with the touchable alphanumeric keypad, and the phone is frankly too narrow to work well with QWERTY in portrait. The handwriting recognition looks good enough, but we revert to a 2nd grade writing level whenever we pick up a pen, so that stylus is staying firmly in its holster.

We're not convinced the touchable browser is a step up over existing WebKit implementations on Nokia's other handsets, since the tap to zoom function is slow and unreliable -- and no, you can't select text from web pages to copy and paste. Panning around the page is also jittery, perhaps a tad worse than the G1 -- nobody has managed to pull off iPhone smooth yet in this department. We were using a slightly early software build, so some of these problems might be fixed in the final version, but it wasn't encouraging. Still, there's no denying the advantages of viewing the web on a 640 x 360 LCD.



We tested out an accelerometer-based driving game, but it was overly sensitive and no-fun-at-all -- though we're guessing that wouldn't be a hard fix. The graphics looked pretty good, though. Movies are potentially this phone's killer app, but you'll have to do the conversion just right to get smooth playback at full resolution. We did see some video shot with the phone (that Sea World shot in the gallery) and it looked pretty good.

Conclusion

If you haven't picked it up by now, Nokia isn't going after the power users here. The phone will be marketed under Nokia's "Live" banner, and really concentrates on the most basic communications -- calling and texting -- with a whole bunch of multimedia piled on top. Nokia's Comes With Music helps on that end of things, and the screen certainly helps with video, but this is no iPhone when it comes to to solid media integration or full-featured media player apps. On the communication side, we're sad to see Nokia almost burying some of its S60 advantages. Everything's still there, but Nokia didn't put the gruntwork in necessary to really take advantage a next-gen interface as it relates to keeping track of emails, social networking, IM and the correspondences of more than four people. All that said, Nokia isn't claiming that the 5800 is the be all end all, is releasing it with a very aggressive price point (€279 unlocked), and promises more where this came from.

Info Taken AT Engadget

Nokia 5800 XpressMusic Spec :
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 - American version
Announced 2008, October
Status Available. Released 2008, November
Size Dimensions 111 x 51.7 x 15.5 mm, 83 cc
Weight 109 g
Display Type TFT touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 360 x 640 pixels, 3.2 inches
- Proximity sensor for auto turn-off
- Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate
- Handwriting recognition
Ringtones Type Polyphonic (64 channels), MP3
Customization Download
Vibration Yes
- Stereo speakers
Memory Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
Call records Detailed, max 30 days
Card slot microSD (TransFlash), up to 16GB, 8GB included, buy memory
- 81 MB internal memory
- 128 MB SDRAM memory
- ARM 11 369 MHz CPU
Data GPRS Class 32
HSCSD Yes
EDGE Class 32
3G HSDPA, 3.6 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g, UPnP technology
Bluetooth Yes, v2.0 with A2DP
Infrared port No
USB Yes, v2.0 microUSB
Features OS Symbian OS v9.4, Series 60 rel. 5
Messaging SMS, MMS, Email, Instant Messaging
Browser WAP 2.0/xHTML, HTML, RSS feeds
Games Yes + Java downloadable, order now
Colors Black, Red, Blue
Camera 3.15 MP, 2048x1536 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, autofocus, video(VGA@30fps), flash; secondary videocall camera
- Built-in GPS receiver
- A-GPS support
- Nokia Maps 2.0 Touch
- Java MIDP 2.0
- MP3/WMA/WAV/eAAC+ player
- MPEG4/WMV/3gp video player
- Stereo FM radio with RDS
- TV out
- 3.5 mm audio output jack
- Voice command/dial
- Document viewer
- T9
- Photo editor
- Built-in handsfree
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1320 mAh(BL-5J)
Stand-by Up to 406 h
Talk time Up to 8 h 45 min

NOKIA 5800 XPRESSMUSIC USER LIST!!!

TEAM RED
1. Davidmak
2. Silencer
3. Dan J
4. Smashpop’s Mom
5. Kyno’s Sister
6. Mikelanding
7. Fallen-786
8. Veron83
9. Wolfpac
10. Cybersonic23
11. Vo0de3_x | oum@n
12. Limyusiong
13. Wufei
14. Dollah_reader
15. Mennmenn
16. Pwf
17. Hestia
18. Adrive
19. Ryanso85
20. ahchew
21.planetshaker
22.PIPSGuy
23.liquid_ooze

TEAM BLUE
0.Kyno
1. Zerg1008
2. Panasonic88
3. J_D
4. Snakevenom
5. Jye’n
6. Blackbird
7. Zildj
8. Chezzball
9. Kcsmax
10. Demitri
11. Limyusiong
12. Asus
13. Blazed
14. Bigblock
15. Hayatesanz
16. Yeap9500
17. Squall_kay
18. Cfyong2020
19.aruja_69

PLEASE STATE COLOUR MY FRIENDS
1. Alexchan76
2. Faizalmzain
3. MK84
4. Nubnub75
5. Hayatesanz
6. X10A Freedom
7. Unknowndevices
8. Guest321
9. Ashwath
10. Honghongnet
11. Stryfox
12. Azmanzain79
13. Aruja_69
14. Keeekeee

Nokia 5800 Prob :
1.The high low volume of the earpiece/speakerphone & how to fix it & how to detect the problem

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This post has been edited by Kyno: Jan 5 2009, 09:02 PM

nice work might get one now

This post has been edited by booooster: Jan 2 2009, 01:28 AM

so how is this ? good enougth . im tired .

Nice going. Let the page get's rolling.

yeahh . come on v2 its here

At last V2 now!!!

Here goes the owner list!

Bro, kindly me to the RED group! Proud to be an owner of Nokia 5800.

i wander whether TS owns one himself/herself

Awesome! I'm getting more and more poisoned =s

getting mine tomorow . avaxx . blue . ill update u

What? Already launched? How much????

Goin atlantis also ar bro?

not launched officially just avaxx set not zitron la

yup bro , i called and reserved edy just nw

congrats for the great job. Viva La Tube!!!

Wah..liddat must give atlantis a call..dunno when only I'm gonna go pick it up =s

Any idea what time Atlantis closes?

Zitron and Avaxx also same de lar, both ori.. Til now, do 5800 users find any bad about this phone? Can 3.2MP satisfy your eyes?

Whatever...ori is killing AP set...and stocks must limited. Avaxx price is always a bit cheaper then Zitron...

i hope sms using this phone is great i sms 24/7 non stop . haha

I got PM u no reply leh bro
I do sms like mad also...hahaha!Can the screen be able 2 take it? We havta wait n see...

This forum really poison me so much...count me in as a proud owner of red nokis 5800 as my second phone beside my iphone 3g....

my pm full edy . cannot reply dude. they have few blue stock

Yes ar bro...ok then man

@Kyno
Perhaps you could also list the workable apps and useful apps in the 1st post

Try to shrink the font size to the regular posting size =s

i think it's a good idea to embed the "handwriting calculator" youtube video too... very poisonous...

Saw the handwriting calculator on youtube
Great application

Hi bros thinking of getting this phone. For those who already own it, is it backwards compatible?

I used to play a lot of games and use a lot of applications on my old N95 (S60v3). Can the 5800 support S60v3 games and apps? Cos now got very few S60v5 games and apps...

Wau a v2 at last!!!
Congrats
Wah alot of poison here!!
Haha!!
I think they got backward compatibility!!!
Can run some (s60v3) app + games. It gives u a virtual d-pad button and few extra keys. Just forgot where i read it.
Anyways should call the 5800 owners to test it. Since there are alot here!

camera wise, is n95 8gb much better than 5800?

there's a dull colour effect because of the lens cover on the 5800...

bookmark

congrats on V2

All,

If you intend to use Garmin Mobile XT on 5800, you need to know that Garmin has not released a new version to support S60 5th Edition yet!

No news from Garmin on when to release yet!

wafer

QUOTE(Corn24 @ Jan 1 2009, 08:37 PM)
oh yeah. i went to that shop too. so shock when i heard the price. i thought the price will be rm 13xx

then i went to another branch in tesco pengkalan... rm 1899. rclxub.gif
*



Where is the shop that you went to (apart from tesco pangkalan). I want to know

This post has been edited by hellwaker: Jan 2 2009, 08:37 AM

atlantis accept credit card or not

the atlantis shop is where? 13xx right?

the shop in ipoh that is selling for RM1699 is at JJ

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wow lots of 1 post only members

Which area in Jusco? I will go and have a look when I m free. Thanks

This post has been edited by hellwaker: Jan 2 2009, 08:56 AM

red tube owner checking in.. ap set.

does atlantis sell 5800 ap sets as well??

---

Added on January 2, 2009, 8:57 amhow much was yours?

This post has been edited by alpha_company: Jan 2 2009, 08:57 AM

mine was 1650. bought it early. found shops selling 14xx. but all no stock. so wat the heck, pay little xtra 4 the benefits of hiving it early in my palms. p/s: already installed many apps n games inside. including the handwritting calculator. works great!!

Does your package include BT Headset?

Hey Ipoh members,

Since Ipoh price is like 300 more expensive, why not come over to KL to get them? Gather a few members and buy 1 shot lo~

Hey guys, haven't got one yet (waiting for official launch - I think I'll go and try to get one then!) but was wondering if those who have had tried out the GPS performance yet? Feedback please, thanks.

Blue (Avaxx) owner here

This post has been edited by Zerg1008: Jan 2 2009, 09:38 AM

by the way, any tube users wit firmware v10.0.010? hav u guys try updating the firmware? i tried but it says no updates available..

wow rumah baru

add me in the proud owner list, too.

avaxx, blue

Add me too, avaxx blue

Very satisfied with the phone, although still in the midst of getting used to it after using samsung for quite awhile.

add me in too! i got avaxx blue set.

btw pana seems like the music redemption webpage is down can u try and see can access or not?

haha wish I could but busy with my work.

actually i dun intend to redeem that 1000 music song.

so i didnt bother to scratch it either.

like that give me ur voucher can? please pana?

This post has been edited by snakevenom: Jan 2 2009, 09:24 AM

Appreciate if someone could give me Atlantis contact? Do they accept credit card? Thanks. Will be going there lunch time today. Can't stand the poison anymore. Need the antidote.

? wat u mean ?

wow~ v2 already
nokia always produce nice handphones..
i will get it soon maybe..

I need the ANTIDOTE too!!! But no transport to Atlantis.
Anyone in LYN selling this phone...ori AVAXX???

012-239-2222, chris

and yup, they accept credit card, at 2% charge only

lol can la, buzz me again at night, i am at work now.

any1 knew where to get 5800 avaxx set around k.l ????

woot v2...
so how many ppl gathered to goto atlantis?

yay! love u pana! tq tq tq. hmmm seems like my voucher got problem to register also saying not enough digit.

seems like the whole KL only Atlantis got the 5800 avaxx ah, everyone here wanna go there and buy hahaha. yesterday went also saw 2 boxes sold. i can't imagine today and tomorrow.

This post has been edited by snakevenom: Jan 2 2009, 09:48 AM

Saw the Baby in Puchong, AP set, Blue selling RM1540

just called chris to deal today...

GPS lock is not as fast as my old nokia 6110.

woo GPS required a lot of data usage, i think that is the least feature i'd use. oh hey, i have a standalone Garmin NUVI 205W

i have updated the firmware on my own using flashing software...
it's not recommend for the weak of heart though and it takes a lot of time for the setup but the flashing process is pretty quick

now if your phone is dead you can send it to me, i will flash it for you

Ok. Bumping my question up again, those who already have the phone, please try to answer my question cos it's quite an important factor in deciding whether I get this phone or not. I really need some of the S60v3 apps and there are hardly any S60v5 games now. Thanks.

you have to download the map first or else it will download the map as you go just like google map. if you already installed the map, it will only use 3G/GPRS for the lock process if you enabled A-GPS.

i've answered that similar question.

yes yes yes, Nokia 5800 supports both S60v3 & of course, S60v5.

i've tested it


yay, thanks for the head up.

GPS on phone, is something new to me.

This post has been edited by panasonic88: Jan 2 2009, 10:31 AM

it will support but it won't look good and a waste of screen size.

Definitely better. Although the 5800 has a 3.2 MP camera, the sensor is quite lousy (I guess they couldn't put a good one on for the price they're selling the phone at) compared to the N95 camera, which has picture quality close to that of standalone digital cameras. In fact I sold my sony digital cam since my N95 took such good pictures.

I saw some 5800 cam pics on review sites. Most of the pictures taken indoors are very noisy or grainy. The pictures taken outdoors are alright but complex details (text, facial features, patterns) are blurred.

no. nt included.

Put me in owner list, Avaxx set - Blue.

i wonder how much that chris sell this tube? price for ori and ap? and where is his shop located?

Shop at ss2..just sms me.i'm going there right now..huhu

Thanks guys now I'm really hyped for the phone. Looks don't matter; I just need the apps/games to function.

the price? ap or avaxx?

going to buy today!!cant wait to get touch with it lol

cant u juz update it straight from the fon via wifi?

Go to Lowyat Plaza 1st Floor and look for a shop with the word 'Kingston' which is near the Nokia Concept Store. They are selling RM1499 and they have ready stock. Just give your best in bargaining and you should be able to get it at RM1399.

it's not available for the masses yet...
but since i;ve got nothing to do yesterday and willing to take risk i decided to download all the softwares required and the latest firmware and update my phone...
it took like half day for all the processes.

Where is Zitron's tube?

heard it will be out next week
normally is later than avaxx

Those people who already have the phone can take up-close shots of it please? Those pictures of the phone on the internet are all touched up and those on review sites are the pre-production models. I won't be buying this until the official release so now I can only drool at the pictures now..

Looks like all the red sets are short in supply. Seems like new owners are grabbing the blue sets....

in full size, it won't look good ...that's for sure.
but when u resize it to smaller resolution of course the picture will look better

any clue when the new firmware will be available 2 update directly from the fon?

buy buy buy

i posted this on V1.

some photos taken by the Nokia 5800

only resizing, did not do any touch up











ok hor....

Imaging Tube user gets his/her hands on a pico projector. Connect both using the TV output cable and beamed the video on the a white wall . They can get to experience mini home cinema in their room man.....don't need 24 inch monitor anymore

its looks reli acceptable. if ppl who r out 4 a dedicated camera fon then its not good choice. if 4 music n touchscreen, great!!

yup, camera wise = okok

overall, you pay banana and you get the whole yard of fruit farm