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post Dec 14 2008, 11:08 AM, updated 16y ago

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Hi everyone, I have always been thin, and i wanna be bigger just to look normal. flex.gif

I have gone on a weight gain diet & exercising 4x a week. My weight is going up but not as fast as i like to, lots of it are going to my stomach. When i look in the mirror i see a drum on my stomach. cry.gif I wish my muscles are getting bigger too but it seems to take ages. What should i do to speed up the process ?

Is there sth i should change with my diet or is it my exercise ? rclxub.gif sad.gif

Please help me, i really appreciate any comments.
Height - 180cm
Weight - 57kg

My schedule is as follows :-

Monday
- squat (3x12)
- forearms (curl2x16, reverse curl 2x12, hand gripper 24x per forearm)
- flat bench press (3x12)

Tuesday
- lateral raise (2x8), back military press (1x11)
- chinning (3x8)
- triceps (2x8), biceps (2x10)


Thurs (same as mon)
Fri (same as tue)

Normally the last rep of every set is a forced rep.

Diet is like this :-

Breakfast
-6 nuts, 1 banana, 2 tablespoons milk powder, 1 spoon flaxseed, 2 scoops UN gain fast, 2 scoops oat

Tea
- corn / sweet potato

Lunch
- rice + 2 meat + 1 vege

Tea
- corn

Preworkout
- 2 scoops oat, 200 ml milk, 2 scoops UN gain fast

Postworkout
- 2 scoops carboslam, 2/3 scoop whey, colostrum

Dinner
- rice + 2 meat + 1 vege + 1 slice papaya/ 1 guava

B4 sleep
- 2 scoops oat, 2 tablespoons milk powder, 2 scoops UN gain fast, 1/3 scoop whey


Thanks for reading. Any criticism is most welcome cos i wanna improve. Tq very much. icon_question.gif

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post Dec 14 2008, 11:12 AM

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This is my recent foto.


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post Dec 14 2008, 11:19 AM

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Sorry, i not very good in this. Here is another foto.


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post Dec 14 2008, 02:24 PM

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you don't look that thin man, in fact i envy your physique and height. with proper diet and training you'll look ripped in no time. good luck! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Dec 14 2008, 11:08 AM)
Hi everyone, I have always been thin, and i wanna be bigger just to look normal.  flex.gif

I have gone on a weight gain diet & exercising 4x a week. My weight is going up but not as fast as i like to, lots of it are going to my stomach. When i look in the mirror i see a drum on my stomach.  cry.gif  I wish my muscles are getting bigger too but it seems to take ages. What should i do to speed up the process ?

Is there sth i should change with my diet or is it my exercise ?  rclxub.gif  sad.gif

Please help me, i really appreciate any comments.
Height - 180cm
Weight - 57kg

My schedule is as follows :-

Monday
- squat (3x12)
- forearms (curl2x16, reverse curl 2x12, hand gripper 24x per forearm)
- flat bench press (3x12)

Tuesday
- lateral raise (2x8), back military press (1x11)
- chinning (3x8)
- triceps (2x8), biceps (2x10)


Thurs (same as mon)
Fri (same as tue)

Normally the last rep of every set is a forced rep.

Diet is like this :-

Breakfast
-6 nuts, 1 banana, 2 tablespoons milk powder, 1 spoon flaxseed, 2 scoops UN gain fast, 2 scoops oat

Tea
- corn / sweet potato

Lunch
- rice + 2 meat + 1 vege

Tea
- corn

Preworkout
- 2 scoops oat, 200 ml milk, 2 scoops UN gain fast

Postworkout
- 2 scoops carboslam, 2/3 scoop whey, colostrum

Dinner
- rice + 2 meat + 1 vege + 1 slice papaya/ 1 guava

B4 sleep
- 2 scoops oat, 2 tablespoons milk powder, 2 scoops UN gain fast, 1/3 scoop whey


Thanks for reading. Any criticism is most welcome cos i wanna improve. Tq very much.  icon_question.gif
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If you are new to bodybuilding, it's better if you follow rippetoe's program. You are taking quite a lot of carbs, try to get more protein like egg etc.
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post Dec 14 2008, 03:07 PM

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6 nuts? 2 scoops oats? Are you kidding me? Increase the quantity la if you wanna bulk.
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post Dec 14 2008, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(noobcake @ Dec 14 2008, 02:24 PM)
you don't look that thin man, in fact i envy your physique and height. with proper diet and training you'll look ripped in no time. good luck! biggrin.gif
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Ha.. really ?
I think i left out my head in the foto, mayb dats y look ok. When i put my shirt on, i look like humpty-dumpy. My waist only 28" !

QUOTE(yeeck @ Dec 14 2008, 03:07 PM)
6 nuts? 2 scoops oats? Are you kidding me? Increase the quantity la if you wanna bulk.
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Ok..
What should i eat more ?
I m worried cos my stomach is getting bigger.
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28" is not that tiny waist....Dennis Wolf was 29" and he is like 120kg


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QUOTE(ExpZero @ Dec 14 2008, 02:38 PM)
If you are new to bodybuilding, it's better if you follow rippetoe's program. You are taking quite a lot of carbs, try to get more protein like egg etc.
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ok, i will go look for more info about rippetoe program. What is the best way to take egg ? Should i boil / take it raw ?

QUOTE(bata @ Dec 14 2008, 03:55 PM)
28" is not that tiny waist....Dennis Wolf was 29" and he is like 120kg
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Really ? tongue.gif Got hope for me then. If i can just be 50% of him, i wil b very happy.
Actually my bones are very small. Sometimes when i look at a girl's wrist, theirs is bigger than mine.
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post Dec 14 2008, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(ExpZero @ Dec 14 2008, 02:38 PM)
If you are new to bodybuilding, it's better if you follow rippetoe's program. You are taking quite a lot of carbs, try to get more protein like egg etc.
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Listen to him. Get on Rippetoe's + bust your ass + eat a lot of protein = success.
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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Dec 14 2008, 03:51 PM)
Ha.. really ?
I think i left out my head in the foto, mayb dats y look ok. When i put my shirt on, i look like humpty-dumpy. My waist only 28" !
Ok..
What should i eat more ?
I m worried cos my stomach is getting bigger.
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You should only eat more on protein and healthy food. Not other junk food. Increase on protein (lean meat, egg, milk), increase on good fat (olive oil, almond nut....) but do not over eat. Reduce carbs to breakfast and preworkout, postworkout for maximum culking.

QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Dec 14 2008, 04:09 PM)
ok, i will go look for more info about rippetoe program. What is the best way to take egg ? Should i boil / take it raw ?
Really ?  tongue.gif  Got hope for me then. If i can just be 50% of him, i wil b very happy.
Actually my bones are very small. Sometimes when i look at a girl's wrist, theirs is bigger than mine.
Sigh..
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You should take it as hard boiled egg, but I take it as scramble(I can't stand the smell of hard boiled). You shouldn't take raw egg as it increases the risk of contracting samonela, a deadly illness that can kill you. You may refer to this thread raw egg thread

Remember, what you eat is what you are.
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post Dec 14 2008, 10:55 PM

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I can't wait to start on the rippetoe program. Thanks to everyone's support here, notworthy.gif i m going to start it tomorrow.

A brand new beginning, yeah ! CAn't wait..

I have resolved to do the following changes based on feedback i received so far :

- I tweaked my diet & increased the protein to 2.3g / kg bodyweight. I have thrown out corn/potato for an egg + oats for teatime. *hope my high cholesterol won't b worse* Rippetoe recommended lots milk. I'm taking about 3 glasses now. *cholesterol* shocking.gif

- I will increase my calories, breakfast will b the biggest - more than 600kcal. Also will be takin a tablespoon of olive oil with my breakfst. In total, my day's cal will be 2,400. Hope i can maintain this.

- Bought omega3&6 oil. Will take it with postworkout meal.

- Running out of nuts. Must stock up my food tomorrow - buy eggs, almonds, papaya.

- I just finished my un gainfast, so bought on serious mass.

I hereby declare to follow rippetoe religiously :
Mon - squat (3x5), bench press (3x5), deadlift (1x5), dips (2x8). Will figure out tomorrow whether can do dips between my bench posts shakehead.gif
Wed - squat (again ? 3x5), stand military press (3x5), bent row (3x5), chin (2x8 yeah my fav)
Fri - same as mon

Saw some youtube abt how to do deadlift (looks dangerous) & bent row (also dangerous). Hope can do it correctly.

Ok, 11 already. *resolve to sleep at 11 everynite* Going to pack my tupperware with oats for office teatime, drink my milk, then go sleep.

Wish everyone a nice day tomorrow.. yawn.gif
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Well, all the best, do update us with your progress
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post Dec 15 2008, 11:04 AM

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Free in ofis, so sneaked some research on bent rows. Am so worried hurt my lower back.

Seems got 2 versions. This scooby guy recommend pulling the bar to the stomach & his body is totally horizontal. Wow,, very strong back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJCv1vdYVS0&feature=related

This 1 a bit different, the arms spread out a bit wider.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUFUiotRPdE&feature=related

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post Dec 15 2008, 01:12 PM

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Bro, you've got a nice body shape. Make full use of that. Ectomorphic here too. You have my support all the way, don't give up, achieve those dreams!
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post Dec 15 2008, 04:59 PM

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Don't worry about cholesterol if you are working out and taking oats.
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post Dec 15 2008, 08:16 PM

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Tanks everyone, for your tips & encouragement. I read the posts at least 2x to make sure i do not miss out anything. Please give me the heads up if there is something i can do better / differently ya.

I jus fin my 1st rippetoe exer today. So exhausted & my pants were wet & left a patch on the floor when i sat down but still wanna do more exercises hmm.gif but stopped myself.

- squat 3x10x25kg (i know i can go heavier but i can barely jack the barbell up my shoulders. wondering how to solve this problem)
- bench press 3x8x33 (the last set i nearly couldn't push the bar up so stopped at 7reps)
- deadlift 3x8x20, then 25, then 30 (was so worried about hurting my back. disappointed cos the exer did not give me any pump. scraped knee. i can't seem to master this)
- decline press 1x8x35 (i felt really strange upside down & had problems balancing my barbell. also had some problems with my left shoulder at the lowest point)

Overall, i felt great. Was tempted to do lateral raises cos my shoulders are narrow. Played around with my bench, tried to do some dips hanging between the posts but can't. a bit disappointed because i have not done this exer b4. I wonder if dips r better than decline bence press.

Goin to take a refreshing bath & when i'm free figure out the correct weight to get between 5-8 reps for each exer. Oh gotta shop for papaya & eggs too drool.gif


Added on December 15, 2008, 11:08 pmMng - took my 600cal blended drink
Tea - too full for tea (gotta b more disciplined)
lunch - normal mixed rice, i ate it all in no time (above average servinhg)
tea - missed my oats !
5pm - took milk + oat + 2scoop Serious Mass
dinner - Had a big serving of claypot rice chick + herbal soup

Went shopping for food, hypermart ran out of bananas & broccoli sad.gif

Made myself 2scoop milk + 1 scoop oat + 1 scoop SM for supper.

Overall not happy with myself for not sticking to my diet. Also passed my bedtime.

Resolve to be more disclipined.




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Dude, that is NOWHERE NEAR a Rippetoes workout
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post Dec 16 2008, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Dec 16 2008, 12:22 AM)
Dude, that is NOWHERE NEAR a Rippetoes workout
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Why.. where .. tell me pls.
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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Dec 16 2008, 02:27 PM)
Why.. where .. tell me pls.
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/371250

the first post in that thread is a summary of rippetoe's (with slight alterations).

its slightly different than what you did recently.

deadlift is difficult to execute (but not impossible!). i sometimes scrape my shins too. try not to get any back injuries. form is 100% important for any exercises. don't curl your lower back, keep it straight.
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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 16 2008, 04:39 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/371250

the first post in that thread is a summary of rippetoe's (with slight alterations).

its slightly different than what you did recently.

deadlift is difficult to execute (but not impossible!). i sometimes scrape my shins too. try not to get any back injuries. form is 100% important for any exercises. don't curl your lower back, keep it straight.
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Hi hi, are u all referring to the sets & reps ? i m still grappling with the correct amount of weights cos nvr done exer with so little reps. unsure.gif When i reached 5 reps, i still wasn't satisfied so i went for another few more. This was esp so with the deadlift as i dared not go too heavy (for my size), so i increased it gradually to find my ground. Hopefully next week i can get it correct blush.gif

I read dat the dip is an optional exercise it but i dun have a dip bar at home. For time being i will use the decline (actually dip / decline is better ?)as a substitute until i can find it somewhere. Checked the websites of fitness equipment suppliers but they dun have it. Anyway i'll keep looking ard.


Added on December 16, 2008, 9:45 pmThis mng woke up, felt some pump in my arms. Dunno if its the change of my exercise regiment or cos of the creatine in sm.

Today had meeting till 7+, on way home went to buy 2pc murtabak for dinner. Steamed the broccoli for 4 mins + olive oil (wil reduce to 3 mins nxt time cos prefer the raw taste). Checked my kitchen supply, got strawberry, banana, papaya, 2 packets almonds .. good.

Diet check
b'fast - a sprinkling flaxseed, 6 almonds, 3/4 glas milk, 2 scoop groat, 2scoop sm, 4 strawberries
tea-1 egg
lunch - fish, 2 dimsum, rice, veg
tea - 2 scoop sm, 1.5 scoop oat. not sure if shld take milk, decided not to cos not exercisin today
dinner - as said + papaya + health drink
supper - ltr wil have 2 scoop milk, 1 scoop oat, 1 scoop sm

Remind myself dun forget my omega pills.


Added on December 17, 2008, 7:19 pmTried my best to be as precise as possible to follow rippetoe's program - succeeded in finishing in less than 1hr but i felt as though i cheated myself cos my workouts last time are all 1.5 hrs but it surely wasn't easier than last time. Surprisingly, i sweated more actually.

Squat - 3x8x33kg
I'm still working on reducing the reps but had problems with moving the barbell from my bench press every time i squat. Didn'nt have the confidence to add the weight & walking to the open area. Basically what i did was increase the height of my bench posts, squat between the posts & then reverse myself from the bench. There were some scary moments ..
The hardest part of this exercise for my was the weight of the bar on my back. It really hurt.. I wonder how everyone does it with such a heavy weight. shakehead.gif

Stand military - 3x8x20
Was tempted to cheat by seating but found out standing was ok.

Bent row - 3x10x30, 40
Will increase the weight nxt week & bring the reps down. REally worked my lats. Still have worries about hurting my back.

Chinning - 2x8
After the rows, i felt i would have problems with chinning, & it turned out true. I was only able to do 5 true chins, the rest were cheats. The last was done by me jumping up & letting myself down slowly haha.. After the 1st set, my arm was really pumped so i concentrated on lifting up with my elbows/lats instead of biceps. It helped a bit but still .. doh.gif cheated on last few pulls.

b'fast - the same blended drink. Put less flaxseed since i took omega tablet. This was as bad as the barbell squat. I had to order myself to drink it all down.
tea - egg
lunch - rice, drumstick, vege, potato/taufu
tea - 1scoop oat with a bit of sm for flavour. Found out its not filling. Will add milk nxt time. 600g papaya
preworkout - 2scoop oat, 2 scoop milk, 2 scoop sm, 10g whey
postworkout - 2scoop carbslam, 2 scoop sm, 1teaspoon colostrum. 30g whey. Sipping it as i type
dinner - yet to decide what to eat most probably some hawker fare.
supper - 2scoop milk, 1 scoop oat, 1 scoop sm, 10g whey


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Decided i need to remind myself of my goals, so put up some posters (the forearms always make me xcited whenever i look at it) in my room courtesy of egonutrition. Are their things cheap enough ?


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LOL cool poster! "I'm not here to talk" thumbup.gif

I am not an expert so I cannot really give you comments on your workout. But if you feel you're doing it right and you can benefit from your workout, then keep it up! flex.gif

I don't know about barbell squats, since I do mine on the smith machine. Maybe you should stick to your current weight until you get a better form and better balance before moving on to lower reps.
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LOL cool poster! "I'm not here to talk"

I am not an expert so I cannot really give you comments on your workout. But if you feel you're doing it right and you can benefit from your workout, then keep it up!

I don't know about barbell squats, since I do mine on the smith machine. Maybe you should stick to your current weight until you get a better form and better balance before moving on to lower reps.


Haha.. ya i liked the macho quote too. Unfortunately i dun have anyone to talk to at home doing my workouts.

Thats the bad thing of exercising at home, no one to refer to or correct me. Thats y i really appreciate this forum, esp my dear wallpaper89 biggrin.gif


Added on December 18, 2008, 5:32 pmDaily read to share..

First and foremost, remember that when it comes to vitamin C in orange juice, no commercial preparation can match the goodness of homemade freshly squeezed orange juice.

This is quite expected, as this juice is fresh, pure, unprocessed and free of preservatives. It must be noted, however, that vitamin C is extremely sensitive to light, heat and oxygen.

So exposure to air can reduce the vitamin C content of any type of orange juice at the rate of 2% a day.

Among the commercially processed varieties, the frozen concentrated orange juice has the maximum vitamin C, followed by juices reconstituted from orange concentrates, and last, the ready-to-drink canned or carton-packed juices.

The same holds true for vitamin C in fruit juices in general, not just for orange juice. So while buying processed fruit juices, don't forget to check for the 100% fruit juice label and the date of packing.

To prevent the degradation of vitamin C in fruit juices, always store them in the refrigerator and consume within a week of opening the pack. Freezing preserves the vitamin C, while exposure to air destroys it.


This is good news to me cos i like to buy a big papaya & juice it over several days.. Light & O2 destroys vitamins. If you can't finish a sliced fruit, keep it in an airtight container in a fridge.


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Where u get the poster dude? smile.gif
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Dec 19 2008, 10:15 AM)
Where u get the poster dude? smile.gif
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The staff at egonutritions give me a poster whenever i go there buy sth..


Added on December 19, 2008, 1:21 pmFeeling a bit under the weather, took panadol y'day. Woke up feeling heavy headed & hot, stole another soluble panadol frm a colleague, yum..


Added on December 19, 2008, 10:44 pmBy noon, A ok.

However a bit blur & mixed up my exercises.

My diet same as my usual but mng added more strawberries & 2 bananas, so thick & sticky. After workout, steamed some broccoli immediately & drizzled olive oil cos too hungry to wait for dinner.

squat - 3x8x35kg
military press - 3x8x23
bench - 3x8x33
deadlift - 2x5x40
decline press - 2x10x33

At last i discovered an exercise that worked my outer pecs. The decline press really gave a good top body workout, even the lats feel pumped. I kept sliding down the decline which was quite funny. Hopefully, i'll add some width to my frame, compared to the flat bench that only thickens my chest.


Added on December 19, 2008, 10:51 pmSomething better than carbohydrate !

Yes, sth that will provide hundreds of calories without eating, that will rocket u thro ur workouts, that makes the kilos feel half their weight.

It is JUST FOR LAUGHS on tv.

I was watching the programme while working out & despite adding another exercise to the normal routine, i didn't feel taxed at all. Sailed thro my weights laughing away & all done within the hour.

Yeah whistling.gif

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Just back frm lunch & some time to reflect over my workouts the last 2 weeks.

I discovered i m leading a much more healthy lifestyle. I have been to the toilet regularly due to increased eating & more water. Its also due to healthier eating of fruits, nut, oat etc i think. In the past i would strain & spend a long time doing 'big business' till it hurts.

Meals are regular too because of my gain weight intention - previously i would jus wake up & had brunch or just laze ard the tv till 3 b4 eating anything. I'm lucky i still don't get gastric.

I'm thankful to bodybuilding for this change & resolve to continue the diet & workouts to reach my goals. I amazed to think now that bodybuilding is not just a physical activity but needs lots of spirit to improve physically, involves knowledge of nutrition & human body to go to the nxt level & most of all, its a healthy activity.

I can't wait to start working out tomorrow.
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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Dec 21 2008, 02:48 PM)
Just back frm lunch & some time to reflect over my workouts the last 2 weeks.

I discovered i m leading a much more healthy lifestyle. I have been to the toilet regularly due to increased eating & more water. Its also due to healthier eating of fruits, nut, oat etc i think. In the past i would strain & spend a long time doing 'big business' till it hurts.

Meals are regular too because of my gain weight intention - previously i would jus wake up & had brunch or just laze ard the tv till 3 b4 eating anything. I'm lucky i still don't get gastric.

I'm thankful to bodybuilding for this change & resolve to continue the diet & workouts to reach my goals. I amazed to think now that bodybuilding is not just a physical activity but needs lots of spirit to improve physically, involves knowledge of nutrition & human body to go to the nxt level & most of all, its a healthy activity.

I can't wait to start working out tomorrow.
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Good to know. Bodybuilding isn't some hobby or something just done on the side. It's a lifestyle. =)
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Dec 21 2008, 02:58 PM)
Good to know. Bodybuilding isn't some hobby or something just done on the side. It's a lifestyle. =)
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Hi darklight ! Yup, in 1 word lifestyle. Haha.. I too full of words liao


Added on December 22, 2008, 11:26 amDaily readings..

Vit C supplements are only 50% effective, compared to fruits that are 100% usable by the body. Wow..

http://www.science.edu.sg/ssc/detailed.jsp...parent=3&cat=30
Known by most scientists, but virtually unknown by the public, is the fact that the ascorbic acid molecule has an asymmetric carbon atom. This means that ascorbic acid molecules could have two stereo-specific forms, namely the L-form and the D-form. Biosynthesis in plants produces the L-ascorbic acid, which is beneficial to our bodies. Ascorbic acids synthesised in the lab normally compose of 50% L-form and 50% D-form. The D-ascorbic acid is designated as useless and discarded by the body, as most research shows.

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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Dec 21 2008, 02:48 PM)
Just back frm lunch & some time to reflect over my workouts the last 2 weeks.

I discovered i m leading a much more healthy lifestyle. I have been to the toilet regularly due to increased eating & more water. Its also due to healthier eating of fruits, nut, oat etc i think. In the past i would strain & spend a long time doing 'big business' till it hurts.

Meals are regular too because of my gain weight intention - previously i would jus wake up & had brunch or just laze ard the tv till 3 b4 eating anything. I'm lucky i still don't get gastric.

I'm thankful to bodybuilding for this change & resolve to continue the diet & workouts to reach my goals. I amazed to think now that bodybuilding is not just a physical activity but needs lots of spirit to improve physically, involves knowledge of nutrition & human body to go to the nxt level & most of all, its a healthy activity.

I can't wait to start working out tomorrow.
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Yah lo, normaly beginning is hangat tahi ayam. Its not yet the end of day & i feel tired already..  dunno ltr can carry the weights or not.
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Its recommended to train if ur exhausted/fatigued/no motivation, just keep the weights lighter. Well at least that's what Darklight says.  tongue.gif
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Aiyah.. juz saw ur advise now. I did the opposite & added weight instead ohaha.. n the result was predictable..
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Aiyah.. juz saw ur advise now. I did the opposite & added weight instead ohaha.. n the result was predictable..
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Breakfast - my usual rojak drink right on waking up. No more strawberries, put 2 bananas
tea - 1 egg
lunch - nasi paprik, telur dadar
tea - eh, i forgot my oats
preworkout - 2 scoop sm, 2 scoop oat, 10g whey
postworkout - 2 scoop carb slam, 30g whey
dinner - pork, vege, rice
supper - wil take 2 scoop sm. not sure whether to reduce my oat / milk, so.. 1 or 2 scoop oat, 1 or 2 scoop milk. Worried abt my tummy

Damn. forgot my omega pill again. vmad.gif

Looking at my diet, not much difference frm any other day, but had a hard time figuring out my fatigue today. Since noon already lethargic right up tp exercisin time. Haih.. Can it b cos i left out my tea time oats ?

squat - 3x7x38
Increasing my weights as planned to bring the reps down. I might be reaching my limit cos at 5 reps, i had to pause for 2 deep breaths b4 resuming. I oso found that i can squat up easier if i bring up my backside hmm.gif Hope i dun get big bum2

military press - 3x7x23
Tried the front press & back press. When doing the front press, i felt like a bamboo & had to stiffen my body. Scared wil snap into 1/2. I prefer behind. The feel is ohlala.. u gotta try it rolleyes.gif

bent row - 3x7x43
This is the 1st time i can feel my back muscles, though i'm not sure if this exercise is meant for my lower back. I think if i con't to do this exer, i will be able to flex my back just like a bicep haha ! Anyway, i think i've jumped too far ahead cos i cant complete the reps in good form. Must.. reeachhhh .. my abs.. aaaaaa

chinning - 2x8
Its already more than 1 hr & i've yet to finish my workout. Feeling angry wit myself, i forced myself to finish soon as possible. Managed to do 5 reps, take deep breath hanging on the bar & cont the last 3. Too bad d 2nd set i had to let myself down awhile b4 con't the last 3 reps.

This w'day must make up for this setback. Must find my form..

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hey don't worry about not completing your workout under an hour's time. its not necessary to get it over with ASAP lol.

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Rather than rushing things its better to focus on ur form. If ur workout past 1 hour, u can start drinking whey during the workout to prevent ur body going catabolic. That's just my opinion anyways.
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hey don't worry about not completing your workout under an hour's time. its not necessary to get it over with ASAP lol.
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Rather than rushing things its better to focus on ur form. If ur workout past 1 hour, u can start drinking whey during the workout to prevent ur body going catabolic. That's just my opinion anyways.
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Ok, will keep them in mind. I jus worried d longer i take the more restless i bcome. Las time i thought i must rest more between exercising to have more energy & in the end my workouts stretched frm 1.5 -> 2 hrs. In d end, kinda lost interest to continue. Anyway will try to keep to 1min rest interval.

Ya oh, how come i din think of taking some drinks when exercising ! Aiyo..


Added on December 24, 2008, 10:28 amY'day was at an x/mas gathtering & recd comments dat i look better now compared to las time - "like sick", someone even said "horrible". Hah.. lucky no one said dat to my face last time or i would ave lost my will to live.

Someone tried to grab my arms "hey, ur arms r bigger". It made all my effort worth it & strengthened my resolve to continue working out hard cos i knw i m stil some way frm looking normal.

My wish now is dat hopefully the fat ard my neck & tummy don't get bigger..

Today muz b more disciplined ! Las 2d slept at 12 & i can feel its not enuff rest cos feelin a bit blurry in ofis. SLEEP EARLIER

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Calcium can aid fats breakdown, if that matters.
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Meals
mng - liquid meal
tea - boiled egg
noon - free burger + fries
tea - duno y always missed it
preworkout - sm + oat + whey (ran out of milk in ofis)
workout - a glass milk
postworkout - whey + carb slam
dinner - fried meehoon
supper - oat + milk + whey + sm

Workout
squat
3 x 7 x 38 (did versions of full & horizontal squat. found out hori is more taxing, must use this more frequently)

bench
3 x 8 x 33 (did 2 versions, to the sternum & collarbone. collarbone gives a tighter feel. will inc this in future)

deadlift
3 x 5 x 30,35,40 (beginning to get the hang of things, stil scraped chin but lightly only. i forgot that its only recommended to do 1x5 but somehow i got carried away & enjoyed the exercise. wil keep this frequency cos i felt it is doing good for my back)

decline press
3 x 8 x 33 (this time my right shoulder felt funny, better watch my form)

Strange.. instead of having a sore leg (my weak part) i'm having sore arms (my strongest part) but i sure like the feeling of fullness ther. Time to make my papaya shake b4 its too late & can't down my supper oats.

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Calcium can aid fats breakdown, if that matters.
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Really ? This should be easy then. I drink quite a lot of milk, the low fat type. I think soya bean is also a type of milk but dunno got calcium or not.

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Why would your friends say you look sickly? You look fine in that pic on page 1 to me... But glad that your hardwork paid off. There's still a long way to go, so don't get complacent just yet k. Keep it up bro!

Oh and for the deadlifts, don't worry about it. If you feel fine then its probably alright. If you are doing 3x5 and you want to limit it to only one set in your next exercise, you could try increasing the weights drastically. But don't worry about doing 3 sets, darklight did PLENTY of sets on his deadlift day once and still came out in one piece. sweat.gif

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There's a myth that soya food reduces sperm count ... and gives man boobs ( female hormone doh.gif ) I don't know .. but I avoid them lol.
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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 25 2008, 12:32 PM)
Why would your friends say you look sickly? You look fine in that pic on page 1 to me... But glad that your hardwork paid off. There's still a long way to go, so don't get complacent just yet k. Keep it up bro!

Oh and for the deadlifts, don't worry about it. If you feel fine then its probably alright. If you are doing 3x5 and you want to limit it to only one set in your next exercise, you could try increasing the weights drastically. But don't worry about doing 3 sets, darklight did PLENTY of sets on his deadlift day once and still came out in one piece.  sweat.gif
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Haha.. thats the sad thing abt extremely ecto, open shirt look so toned. When wear shirt, suddenly the head look out of proportion to the body. I look like an adult in a kids body, just dat taller only. My parents say i look like a dadah addict but i just take it as ribbing. When other ppl say that.. it sounds serious liao. Yah, i'm not even 60, so i can pass off as a somalian if i m darker. cry.gif

QUOTE(JustForFun @ Dec 25 2008, 12:42 PM)
There's a myth that soya food reduces sperm count ... and gives man boobs ( female hormone doh.gif ) I don't know .. but I avoid them lol.
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I think there is some truth leh, tell u a secret, i drank lots soya last time. And a few ppl said i'm a bit soft. One of my colleagues even said i'm like gay rclxub.gif (no offence to gays ok, cos my fren also a gay & 1 of his gay frens is sort of giving signals). Now i try not to drink anymore unless i'm outside & thirsty + hungry cos its quite filling.


Added on December 26, 2008, 10:04 amToday while blending my drink, it leaked frm the bottom ! Aa.. Gone all my precious food. Damn, so broken hearted cos i quite hungry already & there r 500ml of nutrients there.

On the bright side, i felt so angry too, feel like screaming. Maybe my testosterones coming back after banning soya frm diet.


Added on December 26, 2008, 10:48 pmTired..
Jus fin dinner.
Dang, how to drink my supper ltr..

Fin my exer quite late.
squat 3x6x40
mili prez 3x8x23
bent row 3x8x35 (reduced weight & try to do strictly. brought my back as horizontal as possible)
chin 2x8

All exercises done satisfied, but chin still weak. Did a list of exer & weights to track for workouts, pasted near bench. Go watch tv now wait for rice to digest.

breakfast - blender leaked. did simple oat + milk + sm drink. ate banana in ofis
tea - none sad.gif
lunch - normal mixed rice
tea - in another ofis, no oats
preworkout - oat + milk + sm + bit of whey
post - carb + whey
dinner - mixed rice
supper - ?? ayo..

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So full after dinner. Hsemate hungry so accompanied him for 'tai chow'. I'm afraid i won't b able to take my protein drink for supper.

DIET
b'fast - woke up early though hol & took my oat,nuts,milk,weight gainer. out of bananas so put in more oat
tea - a big egg from healthy chicken
lunch - big serving of chicken, pork rice. very oily. xtra cal for me rclxms.gif
pre workout - oat, weight gainer, milk
during workout - as suggested by myvi took a drink - papaya shake + honey (a bit funny smell)
post - carbohydrate, whey, colostrum
dinner - as said
supper - c how

WORKOUT
squat - 3x6x40 (struggling wit d last reps wit worth it)
bench press - 3x7x35 (right shoulder felt funny once, not warmed up properly / bad form ?, last time used to b left one unsure.gif)
deadlift - 3x7x40 (ok la, getting more & more smooth in my lifts)
decline press - 3x8x35 (lovin this exer. after fin ever set, stretched my chest muscles at the bar. wrapped my leg up around the preacher curl pad to prevent myself from sliding & felt my back more comfy as my spine is not curled backwards too much. this doesn't quite sound rite & i'm sure there will be stares if i do it in a gym)

The workout drink seems to help, my exer stretched to 1h40m but still got energy till the last exercise. This is even though i increased my weights/reps. Or izzit i'm rclxm9.gif due to the holidays, all the energy stored frm just doin nothing.

Feeling sleepy after the big dinner. Hope it will b a good nights sleep cos been feeling very hot these 5 days, which is affecting my sleep. Wonder if my body is trying to burn up all the calories i'm forcefeeding it..

Hmm.. what r others doing ? Gonna check their posts for some motivation...

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You seem to be having fun with the decline bench press. I've never tried it before, I'm gonna follow you and do it next week and see how it feels xD
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You seem to be having fun with the decline bench press. I've never tried it before, I'm gonna follow you and do it next week and see how it feels xD
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Ya, its oways syok to try new exer. Can feel muscles never felt b4. flex.gif B a bit more careful wit the barbell cos for me i feel like a bit out of balance with my head below my body.


Added on December 31, 2008, 6:41 pmDIET
mng - flaxseed, nuts, 2big bananas, groat, milk, sm
tea - none cos went out
lunch - char koay teow (more oil for me)
tea - none
preworkout - milk, oat, sm, whey
workout - papaya, honey
post - carb, whey, colostrum
dinner - to b ascertained
supper - oat, milk, sm, whey

WORKOUT
military press - 3x7x25 (mixed up my exer again but glad i did press 1st cos i nearly can't complete the last rep with increased weight, normally press facing a mirror & can c my face red & puffed)
squat - 3x6x40 (the exer that always make me sweat a lot, dared not increase weight cos can feel its taxing after military)
bent row - 3x8x38 (used to do a narrow grip but today held the bar near the weights. haven't discovered any difference, yet)
chin - 2x8 (always look forward to doing these cos it means the end rclxm9.gif )

Today mixed up the sequence again & increased the weights for military press. Hit my head when the bar was comin down & had to give myself a few moments to steady my balance. With the bigger weight can feel it taxing my deltoid but the bigger feel is in my arms. Don't like this. Must find out how to pump my shoulders.

It was a hot day & feeling not so motivated. So in middle of workout, went o blend my papaya add honey. Dun like the smell but the cold drink perked me up. Went back to attack my bent press.

Chinning. Alway giving me trouble cos i can't do full 8 reps without stopping. Surprisingly, the last set i did up to 7 reps but had to come down as my fingers can't take it. vmad.gif Rested 2 seconds & finished it. I think the papaya gave me some rclxm9.gif

Today took my omega pill. GOOD BOY

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Woke up to a new day in a new year. Feeling happy because its another 365 days of opportunity to better myself and achieve some things i have been dreaming of.

Today i weighed myself & am at 60kg which is my intermediate goal & this years resolution is :

- To reach 65kg soon
- To go bigger from there
- To feel good & be a more confident person

There are others too, concerning career & some too personal to say out, but there is a year's chance for me to make things work.

Maybe i'll add some more wishes on CNY, which is another new year haha..

HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone !
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I like the way u express yourself.
Very genuine and determined.
Keep up the good work and happy new year!
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Lol I am planning to do decline with smith so safety and balance-wise there should be no problem, although it might lack the effectiveness barbells can give.

keep up the good work for the year ahead! thumbup.gif
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lol, always a good read checking up on both you guys journals (wallpaper and mr potato) since we share all the same goals and body types.

keep it up guys and let 2009 roll! biggrin.gif
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Woke up to a new day in a new year. Feeling happy because its another 365 days of opportunity to better myself and achieve some things i have been dreaming of.

Today i weighed myself & am at 60kg which is my intermediate goal & this years resolution is :

- To reach 65kg soon
- To go bigger from there
- To feel good & be a more confident person

There are others too, concerning career & some too personal to say out, but there is a year's chance for me to make things work.

Maybe i'll add some more wishes on CNY, which is another new year haha..

HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone !
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With regards to "- To feel good & be a more confident person", here are some info that I would like to share with you. It's from an article that I read previously:

1. Change the way you describe yourself especially when you are under certain circumstances - stop apologising for yourself and giving yourself negative labels. Share positive information of yourself with friends around you
2. Be kind to yourself when your feelings are dented or hurt to recover your confidence - do not punish yourself repeatedly for your mistakes. Rewards yourself not just for achievements, but also when you know that you've tried hard
3. Take good care of your body - follow good eating habit, do exercise regularly, and give yourself adequate sleep and rest. Remember to go for your periodic medical check-ups so that you are aware of your current health status
4. Stimulate your mind - do crosswords, reading, take up new language or courses
5. Learn to relax - do exercises or any other activitites that you enjoy doing regularly to release tension
6. Adopt self-protection strategies - in terms of home security features and your own financial protection for old age, sickness, or unexpected disasters
7. Continuously improve your self-presentation/appearance - you may ask feedbacks from friends or seek advice for the best appearance which suits you the most
8. Utilize the power of body language - voice projection and eye contact
9. Be prepared - make contigency planning as a habit so that you are always well-prepared for the worst. Do rehearsal before you are going for speeches or presentation
10. Become a calculated risk-taker - don't be afraid of changes which are good for improvement. When you make a mistake, note the lessons you've learned
11. Be assertive in your requests - be calm and polite even when you are dealing with the people you don't like. Be direct and persistent. Offer compromise if you can. Do not get carried away with your high confidence level. Being confident does not mean that you always get your own way!

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I like the way u express yourself.
Very genuine and determined.
Keep up the good work and happy new year!
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Lol I am planning to do decline with smith so safety and balance-wise there should be no problem, although it might lack the effectiveness barbells can give.

keep up the good work for the year ahead!  thumbup.gif
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lol, always a good read checking up on both you guys journals (wallpaper and mr potato) since we share all the same goals and body types. 

keep it up guys and let 2009 roll! biggrin.gif
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Hey, noobcake, u really r a ecto ? I read that u did 100kg bench press ! Why don[t u keep a journal here so we can curi some ideas frm u ? laugh.gif

QUOTE(yongbn @ Jan 1 2009, 09:20 PM)
Hello mrPOTATO,
With regards to "- To feel good & be a more confident person", here are some info that I would like to share with you. It's from an article that I read previously:
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I went through your blog & there's quite a lot of advanced workout concepts there. Thanks. Btw, r u the guy in the banner ? He looks chinese.

Thanks everyone for the encouragement ! Thanks for c0ming by & the support given. All the best to u all good-hearted ppl out there ! icon_rolleyes.gif

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I went through your blog & there's quite a lot of advanced workout concepts there. Thanks. Btw, r u the guy in the banner ? He looks chinese.
You are welcome. No, the guy is not me. Long way to go for my back to be like his. He he.
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After going thro wallpaper89's journal, i realised i have been chasing weight increase at the expense of fat.

My waist is bigger than ever, the meat rolling over the pants now. With the shirt on its not visible & i'm enjoying the fuller look but still, i wonder if i'm doing it the right way. sad.gif

Hmm.. shld i continue with what i'm doing now & risk increasing waist or overhaul my diet. It was not easy for me to gain weight & now that its working, i'm afraid if i change something, whether it will affect my future progress. Haih..


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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Jan 2 2009, 01:28 PM)
After going thro wallpaper89's journal, i realised i have been chasing weight increase at the expense of fat.

My waist is bigger than ever, the meat rolling over the pants now. With the shirt on its not visible & i'm enjoying the fuller look but still, i wonder if i'm doing it the right way.  sad.gif

Hmm.. shld i continue with what i'm doing now & risk increasing waist or overhaul my diet. It was not easy for me to gain weight & now that its working, i'm afraid if i change something, whether it will affect my future progress. Haih..
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Felt like this too.. But my waist has always been size 30. Though I can see flabby tummy..I think need to add one cardio session each week. U do cardio Potato? HIIT? smile.gif
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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Jan 2 2009, 11:35 AM)
Hey, noobcake, u really r a ecto ? I read that u did 100kg bench press ! Why don[t u keep a journal here so we can curi some ideas frm u ?  laugh.gif
LOL, was wondering what you were talking about. did a search, my friend must have been messing with my friggin account! sweat.gif

can currently bench about 60kg, aiming to reach the 80's this year - HVT is a great regime to increase strenght. you should check it out after rippetoe.

yea, i'm an ecto. small bone structure. sad.gif

i think you should use weight as a measure of progress, rather check yourself up in the mirror and get feedback from people around you.

i've a couple of gym buddies who are like us, but managed to gain like 15 kgs of mass. thing is, its mostly fat (fat cheeks and flabbier tummies), an in fact i would say they looked far better when they were skinnier. the best is to aim for 0.5kg muscle gains each month. i've finally touched 60kg (from 55) after 6 months of training!

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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Jan 2 2009, 02:28 PM)
Felt like this too.. But my waist has always been size 30.  Though I can see flabby tummy..I think need to add one cardio session each week.  U do cardio Potato? HIIT?  smile.gif
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Cardio meaning sth like situps ? I worry burn my calories & none left for my weight gain leh. I think there r only 2 options, either cardio like u said or reduce my calories (lazy man way). Still undecided.. if cardio have to workout longer .. sad.gif

QUOTE(noobcake @ Jan 2 2009, 03:08 PM)
LOL, was wondering what you were talking about. did a search, my friend must have been messing with my friggin account!  sweat.gif

can currently bench about 60kg, aiming to reach the 80's this year - HVT is a great regime to increase strenght. you should check it out after rippetoe.

yea, i'm an ecto. small bone structure. sad.gif

i think you should use weight as a measure of progress, rather check yourself up in the mirror and get feedback from people around you.

i've a couple of gym buddies who are like us, but managed to gain like 15 kgs of mass. thing is, its mostly fat (fat cheeks and flabbier tummies), an in fact i would say they looked far better when they were skinnier. the best is to aim for 0.5kg muscle gains each month. i've finally touched 60kg (from 55) after 6 months of training!
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You are very patient ! Tell u, i have been so thin so long i can't wait to rid my thin stick look but i dun like my tummy either. This is a very hard choice..

Your weight is same as me but your bench is 2x mine shocking.gif Care to share a shot of your chest please ? It must b real developed !
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Had a headache at noon & wonder if shld cancel my workout. But surprised it went away when i reached home. Straight away took my energy drink & watched tv while waiting to start exer.

WORKOUT
squat - 3x7x40 (maintain weight since not confident but went for 1> rep)
bench press - 3x8x35 (1> rep, muz inc weight nxt time)
deadlift - 3x8x43 (lower back feeling more & more pronounced since i started)
decline press - 2x8x38 (i love this exer, the feeling of tightness is amazing. thinking whether to switch places with the bench press)

Took 1h25m. Distracted by Just for laffs rolleyes.gif shakehead.gif smile.gif

DIET
morning - 2strawberries, 2bananas, 6almonds, tablespoon flaxseed, 2scoop sm, 2scoop oat, 2spoon milk
tea - too rush to boil egg
lunch - rice, vege, chick wing, more pork, hungry but not fin rice
tea - none
preworkout - 10g whey, 2scoop sm, 2scoop oat
during workout - guava juice
post - leftover guava mixed wit 30g whey, 2scoop carb, 1teaspoon colostrum OMEGA TABLET rclxms.gif
dinner - might have famous sri petaling claypot rice
supper - suspect my tummy is mainly due to eat & hybernate. reduce to 1spoon milk, 10g whey, 0.5scoop oat, 1scoop sm

Sleepless y'day as usual, woke up by cries of help after midnite, went up & down aprt to check, saw nothin. Today to sleep earlier.

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Cardio meaning sth like situps ? I worry burn my calories & none left for my weight gain leh. I think there r only 2 options, either cardio like u said or reduce my calories (lazy man way). Still undecided.. if cardio have to workout longer .. sad.gif 
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you don't have to reduce your protein intake, just reduce some of your carbs will do. forumers here would suggest you don't take as much rice for dinner as the carbs will not be used after dinner (inactivity period) and hence the carbs will accumulate, leading to your tummy situation lol.

eh btw you live in sri petaling?? i live there, and i don't know of any famous claypot chicken rice here also o_O normally for claypot chicken rice i go to PJ old town. they have a shop there famous for it thumbup.gif

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Started working out in a bad mood. Water was cut off by management by mistake. Gonna *&^&% them tomorrow.

DIET
morning - my morning shake
tea - egg
noon - indian rice, lamd, chicken, vege. shld be very hi calories smile.gif
tea - take out to reduce cal
preworkout - oat, milk, sm, whey
post - whey, colostrum, carb
dinner - fren's homecooked prawn mee
supper - milk, whey, sm, oat

WORKOUT
squat - 3x8x40 (added reps, slight pain while doing every rep at the lowest back, 1st time happening, can't understand y)
military press - 3x8x25 (increased rep, ok except for last set of last rep)
bent row - 3x8x40 (increased weight yet no back pain rclxub.gif)
chin - 2x8 (for the 1st time i can complete all 8 reps ! unfortunately can't sustain in 2nd set. wonder what i should do once i can do both sets all reps properly)

Time - 1 hr i think

I think the bent row is working abt the same muscles as the chin therefore affecting my ability to chin effectively. Perhaps will switch places with the deadlift since it doesn't appear to clash with the other workouts. Then i will have more energy to do the chinning.

Day A
squat, bench press, bent row, decline press

Day B
squat, military press, deadlift, chinning


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cardio = jogging, swimming, etc, exercises that pump your heart rate. usually involves a lot of calories burning, thus your fats at your tummy can be burned off. i personally prefer swimming > jogging lol.

you don't have to reduce your protein intake, just reduce some of your carbs will do. forumers here would suggest you don't take as much rice for dinner as the carbs will not be used after dinner (inactivity period) and hence the carbs will accumulate, leading to your tummy situation lol.

eh btw you live in sri petaling?? i live there, and i don't know of any famous claypot chicken rice here also o_O normally for claypot chicken rice i go to PJ old town. they have a shop there famous for it  thumbup.gif
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I'm planning to reduce my cal by 100, most probably during the not so important times further from exercises. Yah, carbs r the culprit i suspect. I think my stomach has been well-trained & like lots carbs haha.. Dun wan to burn too much energy, c how, mayb after gaining more mass then only i go for cardio activities. Xcuse for taking the easy way out brows.gif

Actually i'm jus nearby, in bkt jalil. The sri pet claypot is just at a cnr coffee shop t-junction facing the houses. Always lots ppl but they r fast. Surprisingly, they r indons but can talk canto ! Cheap $4.50 with salted fish + dried sausage. Add ons inc fried fish & various soups. Really grt for carbs & protein icon_idea.gif

Tomoro muz eat..

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Feeling under the weather cos slept very late last 2 nites & nearly skipped my workout but dunno y ahead went to exercise. Telling myself i have to stop doing this & be more disciplined if i don't want to feel lethargic at work & sabotage my workouts.

DIET
morning-1 banana,4 strawberries, 2 scoop sm, 2 scoop oat, 6 nuts, flaxseeed
tea - 1 egg
lunch - wanted to eat mixed rice cos more balanced but colleague wan chicken rice, so follow
preworkout - 2 scoop sm, 2 scoop oat, 10g whey
during - 3/4 glass guava juice
post - 30g whey, 2 scoop carb, 1 teaspoon colostrum. nearly forgot OMEGA tablet ! 1 glass guava juice
dinner - going to have claypot rice
supper - 1/2 scoop oat, 10g whey, 1 scoop sm, 1 tbsp milk

WORKOUT
squat - 3x5x43 (up weight)
bench - 3x5x38 (up weight)
deadlift - 3x6x45 (up weight)
decline - 2x5x40 (up weight)

So glad i did not skip my workout cos its quite productive. Gonna up my reps nxt workout.
Duration : 1h15m

edit : too full after mixed grill dinner. Went to sleep without supper

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Your weight is same as me but your bench is 2x mine  shocking.gif  Care to share a shot of your chest please ? It must b real developed !
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i'll post a pic if i manage to reach an 80kg bench!
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The bodybuilders of yesteryears... so nicely proportioned. Fuyoh !


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haha, my chest is far from being developed. though there have been huge improvements from before, still genetics plays a huge factor in making one's chest look godly. as for benching, 60kg is about the average weight an american teen, who is similar in weight and size like us, (without prior lifting experience) can normally lift.  laugh.gif

i'll post a pic if i manage to reach an 80kg bench!
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Arnold drank lots of milk. He drank beer after workout too !

So i'm gonna follow in his footsteps & increase my milk ! Hahaa.. no beer for me though. Full cream milk is full of goodness but i dun wan those saturated fats so i'm ordering a casein protein blend & gonna make that the mainstay of my supplement. Milk throughout the day without more fats to my waist. Will it work ? Can't wait to see the effect..

Will add the casein to my postworkout too, a bit worried how it gels. At same time changing my exercise to 4d/wk - 1,2,4,5. My legs r progressing with 3 workouts / week but other parts lagging & i always feel itchy on non workout days, so 4d/wk shld satisfy my hunger. Will add sth to my shoulder routine, which is currently my worst body part cos with the bloated stomach adding thickness to my body, i look even narrower.



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Arnold drank lots of milk. He drank beer after workout too !

So i'm gonna follow in his footsteps & increase my milk ! Hahaa.. no beer for me though. Full cream milk is full of goodness but i dun wan those saturated fats so i'm ordering a casein protein blend & gonna make that the mainstay of my supplement. Milk throughout the day without more fats to my waist. Will it work ? Can't wait to see the effect.. 

Will add the casein to my postworkout too, a bit worried how it gels. At same time changing my exercise to 4d/wk - 1,2,4,5. My legs r progressing with 3 workouts / week but other parts lagging & i always feel itchy on non workout days, so 4d/wk shld satisfy my hunger. Will add sth to my shoulder routine, which is currently my worst body part cos with the bloated stomach adding thickness to my body, i look even narrower.

Please let the casein arrives faster..
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Milk is fine as your alternative source for protein, instead of just relying on eggs and meat. For less fat %, get Low Fat milk. The one by Dutch Lady is good if you are OK with vanilla taste. HL milk has higher protein % per servings relatively, so you can opt for HL as well.
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Hi yongbn, doing some reading up juz now & ya.. seems like lots good abt milk. Heard HL milk a bit more expensive. I haven't tried it b4, mayb buy 1 pack try. For taste i like Nestle better than Dutch Lady cos its creamier even though both r low fat type.

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Milk is very good to complement whey & has lots glutamine.
http://www.bodyactive-online.co.uk/supplem...ents/casein.asp
As a good basis for hypothesis combining both whey and casein in a sensible ratio would provide the positive benefits from both of these proteins. In all honesty many people are already doing this without actually realising. They mix 25 - 30g of good quality whey protein with about a glass to a pint of milk and have created a drink with an extra 8 - 16 g of slower acting casein. Where whey lacks the amino acid phenylalanine, casein is rich, and where casein lacks BCAA's, whey is rich, making a very good combination ..... Casein comprises 20.5 % glutamine, higher than whey, soy or egg proteins, especially in the peptide form.

However, surprisingly milk is not good for sleeping as often said rclxub.gif hmm.gif
Interesting to note that casein contains a 5:1 ratio of tyrosine to tryptophan and could be considered to be one of the highest 'stimulating' proteins available. Tyrosine is an amino acid that signals the brain to be awake and alert..

Anyhow also read abt milk causing many problems in a health & fitness thread. Going to find out more.

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DIET
b'fast - usual shake
tea - egg
lunch - mixed rice
preworkout - oat, milk, sm shake
during - 1 glass guava shake for energy
post - 1 glas guava shake, carb, colostrum, whey
dinner - this time must eat claypot rice. been yearning for it
supper - oat, milk, sm, whey

WORKOUT
squat - 3x7x43 (do both parallel & full squat, funny, thought full squat is harder but i find parallel harder, last set last rep got stuck halfway up & had to step forward to esc sweat.gif must think of a contingency plan if this happens again)
military press - 3x5x28 (mistakenly loaded 33kg & wondered y i couldn't move the bar doh.gif felt going to have trouble for rest of workout so went to juice a guava)
bent row - 3x8x43 (it can't b rite. my rows is same weight as squat ? my legs r lagging badly)
chin - 2x8 (i can do it all without coming down yayyyy... of all exercises this is the most fun hanging on the bar like a monkey)

TIME
1h20m

edit
lucky remember to take omega pill
drizzled olive oil on claypot rice

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Hi yongbn, doing some reading up juz now & ya.. seems like lots good abt milk. Heard HL milk a bit more expensive. I haven't tried it b4, mayb buy 1 pack try. For taste i like Nestle better than Dutch Lady cos its creamier even though both r low fat type.

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Milk is very good to complement whey & has lots glutamine.
http://www.bodyactive-online.co.uk/supplem...ents/casein.asp
As a good basis for hypothesis combining both whey and casein in a sensible ratio would provide the positive benefits from both of these proteins. In all honesty many people are already doing this without actually realising. They mix 25 - 30g of good quality whey protein with about a glass to a pint of milk and have created a drink with an extra 8 - 16 g of slower acting casein. Where whey lacks the amino acid phenylalanine, casein is rich, and where casein lacks BCAA's, whey is rich, making a very good combination ..... Casein comprises 20.5 % glutamine, higher than whey, soy or egg proteins, especially in the peptide form.

However, surprisingly milk is not good for sleeping as often said rclxub.gif  hmm.gif
Interesting to note that casein contains a 5:1 ratio of tyrosine to tryptophan and could be considered to be one of the highest 'stimulating' proteins available. Tyrosine is an amino acid that signals the brain to be awake and alert..

Anyhow also read abt milk causing many problems in a health & fitness thread. Going to find out more.
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Correct, HL is more expensive. The easiest way to compare the fat or protein levels is true it's foods label. So, spend a few minutes looking at it.. smile.gif
Certain people are milk-intolerant too, so you may want to take note on this if you seldom take milk that frequent. Cheers.
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Congrats on the successful smooth chinnings! What grip do you use for that btw? I used to do hammer grips for biceps and it took me really long just to be able to do 2x8 comfortably. If you use wide-grip to work your lats, I think it's even harder to execute.

For the squats, if you aren't living alone it might be a good idea to get someone to spot for you, so if it isn't going right the spotter can lend a helping hand. Do you use a squat rack or do you lift the barbell from the ground? If its the latter, it will be difficult on you when you want to squat heavier weights next time, and might even be the limiting factor preventing you from squatting heavier than you actually can.
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Correct, HL is more expensive. The easiest way to compare the fat or protein levels is true it's foods label. So, spend a few minutes looking at it.. smile.gif
Certain people are milk-intolerant too, so you may want to take note on this if you seldom take milk that frequent. Cheers.
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I have been forced to drink milk since schooldays, so my stomach is quite frenly to them biggrin.gif But even then, the milk did not help me gain weight. B'cos of dis, i'm more convinced than ever that a good hard exercise is the final answer in the jigsaw. I think i'm stil not working hard enuff.

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Donkey's milk is best !
http://ezinearticles.com/?Does-Colostrum-R...rol?&id=1766083
Cow's milk, however, is not the best substitute for human milk. Most scientific research supports the notion that donkey's milk is.

Donkey's milk is very similar to (human) mother's milk in its content of lactose, proteins, minerals, and omega-3 fatty acids, and in its immune-stimulant properties. Of all commercially available milk products, donkey milk is lowest in fat. Donkeys do not carry the diseases of cows. Donkey colostrum has an additional property of causing red blood cells to release the chemical nitric oxide, or NO.

NO dilates arteries, opening them to greater circulation, compensating for any hardening of the arteries. And donkey milk has even greater power to cause the release NO than donkey colostrum.

No kind of colostrum actually lowers cholesterol, but the release of NO accomplishes the desired result. Bovine colostrum has this effect in cows, but donkey colostrum, and, better, donkey milk has this effect in humans.



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Congrats on the successful smooth chinnings! What grip do you use for that btw? I used to do hammer grips for biceps and it took me really long just to be able to do 2x8 comfortably. If you use wide-grip to work your lats, I think it's even harder to execute.

For the squats, if you aren't living alone it might be a good idea to get someone to spot for you, so if it isn't going right the spotter can lend a helping hand. Do you use a squat rack or do you lift the barbell from the ground? If its the latter, it will be difficult on you when you want to squat heavier weights next time, and might even be the limiting factor preventing you from squatting heavier than you actually can.
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I dun like doin the narrow grip cos i feel its more difficult ohmy.gif haha.. duno y. Another reason is when i stil in hometown i put a metal bar at the staircase area & did the narrow grip & feel the bar bouncing, also bent a bit. After dat i use the wide grip till now. Might wan to try the narrow grip once i install a tougher bar in my place now and see the difference cos its bent already blush.gif

Talkin abt the squat, this exer gives me the jitters everytime. *what if cannot come up. wat if i lose balance..* Even below 30kg i cannot hoist it to my shoulders liao so i pull up my bench bars & squat the barbell up from ther. Duno how long this can last though. Really crack head how to solve this ? Sometimes my hsemate ard when i exer but shy to ask him help. He's a damn stout bugger but prefers jogging to lose weight while i m d opposite ahhaa..

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Narrow grip works more biceps, wide-grip works the lats so basically just do whichever one that you aim to hit.

Well that's good, you can ask him to help out then lol. For the long-term however, it would be better to get a squat rack or to join a gym, or to try other variations of squats. I believe there are other squats which do not necessarily require a squat rack, or at least to a lesser extent than that required by the back squat. You could try asking pizzaboy, he's a squat-mania apparently lol.
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I am having the same problem here. I think I can squat heavier but positioning the weight overhead to behind the shoulder position is really grueling. Safety is more important especially if ur training at home.
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Got my nitrocore at last frm kangaroo express to replace my weight gainer. Shld change their name to donkey express so slow. The pack is real heavy though same sized with on whey. Muz b real milk inside rclxm9.gif

Reduced my daily cal to 2,200 but still, found out i wil have to eat lots more to replace the cal frm weight gainer previously. Daily to have 4bigbananas, 90g oat, 2glasses milk in addition to some shakes & whey. Protein jumped to 2.4g/kg bodyweight shocking.gif oh oh..

The good thing is i can reduce my supper cal - dun wan my tummy to grow anymore.

Hope to get replacement from supt after work for my defective blender. Lots things to eat so need it badly. Oso need to fix my shelves dat r breakin apart, might as well drill my heavyduty chinning bar too. Then exercise.

Gonna b bz nite...

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How's the taste? Nitrocore is sustanained release protein rite? wah building ur stack..like pro brows.gif You're on weightgainer last time? Better just make a banana+whey+oatmeal shake.. yummy man
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Yup, gonna ask pizzaboy abt my leg progress, its real slow & frustrating. Cos of dis y'day workout dare not increase any weight but wil try to inc reps though.

Oh, i stil haven't finished my weightgainer. I must have tried nearly all the different types sold, some are real good but only b'cos of its hi sugar, some r tasteless but suits me fine as i dun like sweet things.

I can't wait to try nitrocore, mayb in 1.5 wks time after i fin my serious mass, which is not a bad product. Too bad nitrocore does not list a breakdown % of its different proteins, duno how much milk is in it.

Haha.. u like shakes too ha. I have to eat more oats when i start nitrocore cos the protein is very high, so have to limit its amt & supplement with oats. Yup, i love bananas too !


Added on January 13, 2009, 9:28 pmYesterday's WORKOUT.

squat - 2x7x43
bench press - 2x5x40
deadlist-2x5x48
decline press - 2x6x40

Limited to 2 set cos i wanna fix my racks & install chinning bar.
Time : 50 mins

DIET
Too tired to remember, still recovering frm yesterday.


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A bit upset cos both my new blenders out of order. Phillips is unreliable, cheap yes ! Told by salesperson panasonic is better. My calories esp in mng is affected cos i need to eat lots when i wake up.

All workouts are progressing except squat. Yup, better not push it too far, play on safe side & maintain weight. Probably nxt workout can increase the reps & build up my strength.

DIET
Mng - 2 scoop oat, 100ml milk, 2 scoop weightgainer (no almonds flaxseed bananas to blend. took bananas to office but squashed by tupperwares vmad.gif )
tea - 1egg
lunch - 7 pcs yong tau foo, 2 pcs cheong fun
preworkout - 2 scoops oat, 100ml milk, 2 scoops weightgainer, 10g whey
postworkout - 2 scoop carb, 1teaspoon , 30g whey
dinner - noodles, papaya
supper - 0.5 scoop oat, 2tablespoon milk, 10g whey, 1 scoop weightgainer

WORKOUT
squat - 2x7x43 (reducing by 1 set every wednesday frm now on as suspect squats 3x/wk is too taxing & impeding my progress)
military press - 3x6x28 (inc rep)
bent row - 3x5x45 (inc weight)
chin - 2x8 (whats happening ? today hafta come down after 5 reps b4 con't. mayb new bar is too slippery. mayb its an excuse. must do it all nxt ti me)

Time : 1h

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Bro, if ur too concern about the progress; maybe u should deload 1 week.

Reduce your weigths down to 70% effort, on the following week u can try upping the weigths a little. Its usually done to break off plateau.

So its usually5-6 weeks max effort, 1 week deload..then continue back to max effort. Try asking darklight. I am still noob but that's what I read anyways.
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If doing squats 3 times per week is too taxing drop it to 3 times every 2 weeks, ie do it only on alternate workout days. Last time when I was on Rippetoe's I found it too taxing for me as well sweat.gif

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Agree. Though it's a good exercise but when it's too taxing, it does not turns out effective as well. Perhaps you can change one or two of your exercises, for example using dumbbells instead of barbell, swapping the order of exercises, imposing dropsets, supersets.. these might just help to get you back into the rhythm and perform even better! Eventually, as you progressively exercise, I am sure you will be able to understand what's best for you. smile.gif

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Bro, if ur too concern about the progress; maybe u should deload 1 week.

Reduce your weigths down to 70% effort, on the following week u can try upping the weigths a little. Its usually done to break off plateau.

So its usually5-6 weeks max effort, 1 week deload..then continue back to max effort. Try asking darklight. I am still noob but that's what I read anyways.
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If doing squats 3 times per week is too taxing drop it to 3 times every 2 weeks, ie do it only on alternate workout days. Last time when I was on Rippetoe's I found it too taxing for me as well  sweat.gif
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Agree. Though it's a good exercise but when it's too taxing, it does not turns out effective as well. Perhaps you can change one or two of your exercises, for example using dumbbells instead of barbell, swapping the order of exercises, imposing dropsets, supersets.. these might just help to get you back into the rhythm and perform even better! Eventually, as you progressively exercise, I am sure you will be able to understand what's best for you. smile.gif
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Hi myvi, I went back my journal to check when i started rippetoe, it was just mid dec. So fast i hit the wall already. Have to admit my legs r the worst part besides my shoulders but past 1mth i noticed a bit of muscle coming up & was very happy. Why..y... so fast stop.

I think i will just maintain my exer another wk till cny, then deload when back in hometown. At dat time mayb no mood to exer oso.

Thx wallpaper / yongbn for ur advices too. I'm coming up with a new exercise routine to reduce the squats / wk but will reuse back most of rippetoe's exercises cos personally i found out that they really worked for me. Mayb mix match a bit + other exercises for variety & a bit more advanced concepts (wil have to read up on these cos realli no idea). All these after cny. Until then no rest for my lazy muscles !
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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Jan 15 2009, 11:13 AM)
I don't believe in walls at the end of paths. You have not hit a wall yet, and you never will, because at the end of one path begins another wink.gif
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LoL wallpaper.. u must be really old to say something like dat..u sound like my uncle tongue.gif
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Jan 15 2009, 07:37 PM)
LoL wallpaper.. u must be really old to say something like dat..u sound like my uncle  tongue.gif
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Haha... surprised u didn't say that i m uncle too cos i'm a real uncle. Anyway, thx for the motivation. Today's exercise was passable, probably cos my body knows its going to enjoy a break soon smile.gif


Added on January 16, 2009, 9:06 pmDIET
mng - 1 glas milk, 2 scoop sm, 2 scoop oat. without the blender had to patiently swallow all the oats down. not so tasty cos i can't blend bananas together
tea - was in hq, no time eat egg but had free mi hoon, chicken, sandwich, karipap drool.gif
lunch - free restaurant meal icon_idea.gif fish vege rice p9ork tofu
tea - egg
preworkout - 0.7 glass milk, 2 scoop sm, 2 scoop oat, 10g whey
post - 2 scoop carb, 30g whey, 1 tblsp colostrum
dinner - dunno yet, mayb tapau noodle + olive oil
supper - 3 tablesp milk, 5g whey. takin out oats totally

WORKOUT
squat - 3x8x43
bench press - 3x8,6,8x40 (2nd set got problem, ate a banana & went back to 8 reps last set. psychological biggrin.gif )
deadlift - 3x7x48 (eadlift was satifsying, can't sit properly after 3 sets. Had to support myself on the bar)
decline press - 2x6x40
wrist crunch - 2x20 (to do after this, forgot)

Dang, right shoulder dull ache doin bench press, then left shoulder ache while doin decline press mad.gif Since nearly all exer reps went up, satisfied.
Ah yes my omega. Very important cos i not taki9n flaxseed.

time : 1.5 hrs (blame it on just for laffs)

edit : took chicken chop instead of noodle


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Chicken chop is better than noodles. More protein, less carbs, you wanted to get rid of that tummy anyway rclxms.gif Summore got salad/coleslaw I assume drool.gif
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Yo, if you're feeling uncomfortable with flat barbell benches you might want to drop it for a different exercise. Just found out from darklight that it may cause injury. This was his post on the progress pics thread:

QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jan 18 2009, 07:30 PM)
Tell your trainer, drop the flat bench press, the unnatural movement predisposes one to injury, many bodybuilders hav ended their careers due to injuries from that exercise. You can replace it with decline bench press or flat dumbell bench for a more natural movement.


You could try replacing it with DB benches, I've just tried it recently too and it feels much more natural than using a barbell/smith machine. The only downside is that I have to use lighter weights otherwise cannot balance it lol.
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My tummy is bigggest ever now. Even my other jean that used to b the loosest is now tight. Anyway, its the effect of the weightgainer i think, but gotta thank it too for giving me hope that i can stil gain weight despite being an ecto.

The chick chop was good but at nearly 3x the noodle's price it better be smile.gif


Wow, u covered all the posts here ? Looks like there r quite good info ard. Mmm.. i stil dun wan to give up on the bench press for time being. Give it another try on w'day & c how it goes. Mayb i'll try to b stricter with my movement & hope it helps me thro.


Added on January 19, 2009, 11:00 pmToday was tempted to skip training. After all my cny break is near so it won't make much difference. My heart can't decide so in the end the brains made the choice to WORK OUT ! NO SLACKING. 1 MORE WORKOUT !

DIET
mng - 1banana, 2tbsp milk, 2scoops sm, 2scoops oat
tea - forgot to take my egg
lunch - rice, pork, tofu, veg
tea - taken out
preworkout - 2scoop oat, 200ml milk, 5g whey, 2scoop sm
post - 2scoop carb, 25g whey, 1tsp colostrum
dinner - fish head mihoon + xtra fishcakes
supper - broccoli, olive oil, 2tbsp milk, 10g whey

WORKOUT
squat - 3x5x45 (upped my weight. broke out of my stagnation at last ! referred to pizzaboy my problem as advised my wallpaper & did as told http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/649712/+260)
military press - 3x6x28
bent row - 3x6x45
chin - 2x8 (the previous full 8 reps without rest must ave been a fluke cos can't do it. resorted to jumping up bar & lettin myself down)

time : 1h10m
weight : 61.5 kg y'day morning, 62 kg tonight. Hah.. is it possible to gain 0.5 kg in 1d ??

I have finished the whole tub of serious mass at last. What a relief. Drinking 12lbs of sth takes as much effort & discipline as exercising itself.

I'm looking forward to tasting my new supplement nxt ie nitrocore. Hopefully this new stage i enter, together with a new exercise regiment will produce faster results & less of fat storage at my tummy. Anyhow, positives still more than negatives. Bigger tummy but less thinner body. Jus worried what all the carb is doing to my body - diabetes, intestinal flora, absorption of other nutrients. I feel more tired & warmer than usual during this period. Could it b cos my body is trying to cope with all these additional calories ?

After cny i'll b able to make some comparisons.

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I think it is normal to see yourself being plump a lil' bit especially while your are in training period. Unless you are saying that your tummy looks like "alchoholic belly".. haha.. Anyway, Happy CNY folks!
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haha maybe its 0.5kg of water.

Don't know u rest at the bottom during squats. You might want to check Rippetoe's video on how to squat, try search it. Another good important point is u have to imagine as if the weight is on the lower back, and lift the weight..feel it on the lower back. The video is at bb.com forum if u want to look at it.

Thinking about weightgainer since my weight is still stuck at 62kg after so long. So is it worth it bro? Seriousmass or UN RealGains?
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QUOTE(yongbn @ Jan 20 2009, 09:49 PM)
I think it is normal to see yourself being plump a lil' bit especially while your are in training period. Unless you are saying that your tummy looks like "alchoholic belly".. haha.. Anyway, Happy CNY folks!
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Jan 21 2009, 09:43 PM)
haha maybe its 0.5kg of water.

Don't know u rest at the bottom during squats. You might want to check Rippetoe's video on how to squat, try search it. Another good important point is u have to imagine as if the weight is on the lower back, and lift the weight..feel it on the lower back. The video is at bb.com forum if u want to look at it.

Thinking about weightgainer since my weight is still stuck at 62kg after so long.  So is it worth it bro? Seriousmass or UN RealGains?
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Ya myvi, It looks to me like the rippe squat is different from the normal ones. I saw 1 rippetoe vid, the fella tilt his back a lot till its abt 25% from vertical while in other squats its just a bit tilt. If tilt so much, it looks like very tough, put a lot of strain on the lower back but thats what he recommends. I prefer doing it as vertical as i can but surprisingly, in my earlier days of squatting, when i have trouble coming up, i tilt my back down & found it easier to come back up. It sure is a confusing exercise blush.gif rclxub.gif Wil have to do more research & studying the vids..

Oh, ya weightgainers helped me lots. I knw natural food is ze best. In fact i bought lots of barli, wheat & green beans frm the supt & cooked them myself to try save some $. Just simply cant eat as much calories as the weightgainer, its jus 2 scoops beans but after cooking they expand -> 3 bowls dessert. Imagine 3 bowls of beans 3x per day. I gave up after only 2d.

I think its worth a try some of the brands. Those i tried that worked are serious mass (cheap), real gains (with casein) & gain fast (lots supporting nutrients). REad muscle juice works too. Avoid great gains at all costs ! It is like drinking sugar water. Appeton sucks too. I hope u won't get a big tummy after that laugh.gif

Will be offline for more than 1wk cos hometown no pc. cry.gif

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE !
May health, great bodies & prosperity come to u all !

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happy new year mate, nice progress. post some pics soon yea! tongue.gif

p/s: i feel weight gainers are a rip-off - its sticky, hard to mix and expensive. with the abundance of food in malaysia, i find that the only real supplement i need is whey for pre/post workout. just my opinion anyway haha.
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hmmm weight gainers a rip off?
hmmm... well maybe its different for different ppl...
i was as thin as u bro...now at least ive put on some....if u just take weight gainer u sure will grow fat wan.....

i just kept gymming and eating protein..(ON whey) it seemed to work for me..changed from 64 to 69 kgs..

but at those times i was gymming wrongly...aih......wasted 1 year...
the only thing that decently developed were my mid trapezius
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QUOTE(noobcake @ Jan 24 2009, 08:41 PM)
happy new year mate, nice progress. post some pics soon yea! tongue.gif

p/s: i feel weight gainers are a rip-off - its sticky, hard to mix and expensive. with the abundance of food in malaysia, i find that the only real supplement i need is whey for pre/post workout. just my opinion anyway haha.
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Err.. i think it will be a while b4 i dare to show more fotos. Still looking like an ecto. But at least relatives say i look much better than last time which is a consolation.

I won't b gettin anymore gainers, scared after my bloated stomach look. In fact i have a bit of love handles already blush.gif

QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Jan 24 2009, 10:30 PM)
hmmm weight gainers a rip off?
hmmm... well maybe its different for different ppl...
i was as thin as u bro...now at least ive put on some....if u just take weight gainer u sure will grow fat wan.....

i just kept gymming and eating protein..(ON whey) it seemed to work for me..changed from 64 to 69 kgs..

but at those times i was gymming wrongly...aih......wasted 1 year...
the only thing that decently developed were my mid trapezius
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During cny have been doing some light exercises hoping to maintain my form when i resume my workout. Presses, pushup, burpee, situp, waxing my & father's car (if it counts) etc. Can't wait to lay hands on my barbell.

Came up with tweaked diet, calories down to 2,240 frm previously 2,400+ to avoid tummy flare-up. Shld b less carb now, will check detailed diet tommorrow.

DIET
mng - 2scoop oat, 1tbp flaxseed, 8almonds, 2banana, 0.5scoop nitrocore, 2tbp milkpowder
tea - egg
lunch - usual mixed rice (meat,tofu,vege)
preworkout - 2.5scoop oat, 0.75scoop nitrocore, 200ml milk
during - 2banana
post - 2scoop carb, 1scoop whey
dinner - claypot chicken rice, papaya
supper - 1tsp olive oil, broccoli, 1scoop nitro

WORKOUT
squat - 3x8x45 (1st set ok, thought 2nd set wil improve but not really, last set stuck midair on last 3 reps but managed to p..us..hh up)
bench press - 3x5/5/2x40 (this is bad..)
bent row - 3x6x45 (this is a relatively easy exercise to cheat so i would say some of the reps doesn't count)
incline press - 3x8x30 (at last, so this is how it feels like. my hands all wobbly. i knw my upper chest is shit. didn't feel the pump after the taxing bench press. need to inc weight nxt workout)

It was a letdown today cos i felt no energy & mood to exercise ohmy.gif After all the anticipation. Disappointingly my plan to maintain strength during cny didn't work. NEVER TO STOP EXERCISING AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. A reminder.

Another shock. Weighed myself - 60kg. I lost 1.5 kg !!
NEVER TO STOP EXERCISING !!
Anyhow now i can tie my shoelaces without holding my breath as b4, so maybe lost a bit of fat/flesh there ? hmm.gif But i lost some strength too. During these 2 weeks is it possible to have lost muscle too ? mad.gif Not to say that i have much muscle haha..

Nxt wk is payback time. Gonna torture my muscles & wake them up. brows.gif

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DIET
mng - 2scoop oat, 1tbp flaxseed, 8almonds, 2banana, 0.5scoop nitrocore, 2tbp milkpowder
tea - 0
lunch - bakuteh
preworkout - 3scoop oat, 0.75scoop nitrocore, 200ml milk
during / post - 2scoop carb, 1scoop whey, omega
dinner - duno yet
supper - 1tsp olive oil, broccoli, 1scoop nitro, 1tbp milk

WORKOUT
military press - 3x6x28/25/25 (found i can't handle 28 properly, dropped wt)
deadlift - 3x7x48 (ok)
lateral raise - 3x6x5 (have trouble on 1st set, better on 2nd, more confidence on 3rd)
chin - 3x6 (managed all reps unlike last time)

Today's workout was better than yesterday mayb cos they r not as taxing without squat & bench press. Miss my squats. Hope i can stil grow without doin squats every workout. Probably inc wt for deadlift & treat it as a part squat exercise.

This is start of my 4day split, hope things progress smoothly from here.

Will do wrist exercises on my off days to improve my forearms.

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dinner - chick chop + egg
supper - full. omit broccoli, olive. had papaya+nitro shake


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Did a calculation of my calories breakdown.

While i was on weightgainer
Carb 63%
Protein 22%
Fat 14%

Current plan
Carb 56%
Protein 26%
Fat 19%

Wonder if i shld tweak it further.


Added on February 7, 2009, 9:28 amTime to reduce my fruit intake at night. It really spoilt my mood to think that i have been sabotaging myself with all those shakes before bedtime, & i had 1 big watermelon juice at dinner + 1 big papaya shake b4 sleep. Apples & bananas are the worst.

Daily Reading
Fruits are fattening !
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_articl...ils_of_fructose

If you have a lot of fructose in your diet, it only has one place to go: your liver. If your liver glycogen levels are full, which is the case all times of the day except before you eat breakfast, then that fructose is turned into fat!

Fructose may be one of the reasons your body is not dropping the stubborn body fat you've been fighting for weeks, or even months.


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LMAO! Chill la, don't worry too much about the fruits. If you're doing dumbbell lateral raises for shoulders, use lighter weights and aim for more reps, 10-15. If you use heavy weight your form will be cacat and it won't be as effective, or at least that's what my personal experience and observations tell me. Even now I'm still doing 5 or 6 kgs x10+ only.
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Why ur trippin on the fruits bro?

Fruits would be the least of my concern.. my opinion is if ur trying to gain weight ur going have to get fats too.. it would be hard to gain lean muscle mass on a bulk diet..especially for real skinny people.

The fructose stuff should only be a concern if you're cutting..
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Don't be so calculative on your foods consumption la dude... mana shiok like tht... just try to keep things moderate and well-balanced... and enjoy yourself!

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Hahha.. ya. I sound like a picky food maniac now.

Here's another 1.

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Flaxseed may increase risk of prostate cancer & macular degeneration

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/flaxseed-oil-000304.htm
Although studies have found that regular consumption of fish (which includes the omega-3 fatty acids EPA and DHA) may reduce the risk of macular degeneration, a recent study including two large groups of men and women found that diets rich in ALA may substantially increase the risk of this disease. More research is needed in this area. Until this information becomes available, it is best for people with macular degeneration to obtain omega-3 fatty acids from sources of EPA and DHA, rather than ALA.

http://www.futurevisionsfoundation.org/Sup...entationEFA.htm
I still see a great deal of information pushing flaxseed oil, which contains a great deal of ALA, in the nutritional literature. Flax, and other seed oils, high in ALA, have been touted as a wonderful way to get your omega 3 EFA’s. However, ALA is only useful to us insofar as we can convert it to EPA or DHA. A lot of studies get done on rats first, and only later on humans. The rat studies showed that dietary ALA was wonderful! Rats utilized the ALA well, and they seemed to thrive. Only a few years later did we realize that humans convert flax seed oil to the essential EPA and DHA very poorly. Only about 10% of ALA is converted by humans. New information has come to light, as well, that ALA seems to worsen prostate cancer. Even the rats got larger prostates on flaxseed! As a consequence, I do not recommend flax seed oil very often.

Looks like flaxseed is not as good a choice as fish oil ..

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DIET
mng - 2scoop oat, 1tbp flaxseed, 8almonds, 1bigbanana, 0.5scoop nitrocore, 2tbp milkpowder
tea - egg dim sum
lunch - lala mihun
preworkout - 2.5scoop oat, 0.75scoop nitrocore, 250ml milk
during - guava shake
post - 2scoop carb, 1scoop whey
dinner - duno
supper - omega, 1scoop nitro, 1tbp milk

WORKOUT
squat - 3x6x45 (sub par performance)
bench press - 3x6/6/5x40 (above par)
bent row - 3x8x45 (again cheated, ok la on par)
incline press - 3x8x33 (on par)

By next workout, things shld b back to normal.

Remembered the forum mentioned nando's is considered healthy, checked their website - delivery $25 inc 500ml coke. Wow, i think its cheaper outside & i dun need a sugarfull soft drink. Bath & go hunt food.


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DIET
mng - usual 500cal shake
tea - -
lunch - wantan noodle (not enuff)
tea - egg
preworkout - oat, milk, nitro
during - guava juice
post - guava juice, carb, whey
dinner - not yet
supper - milk, nitro, omega

WORKOUT
military press - 3x8x25 (feeling stronger)
deadlift - 3x5x50 (up weight, really felt the back straining this time, good)
lateral raise - 3x5x6/8/8 (feeling confident of form, thx wallpaper for ur suggestion, will up reps further, thx too to yongbn for the tips)
chin - 3x7 (all ok)

Feeling under weather, mc, but today was a good workout.

Edit
dinner - noodle+ chick wing


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DIET
mng - 2scoop oat, 1omega, 8almonds, 1huge banana, 0.75scoop nitrocore, 2tbp milkpowder
preworkout / tea - none, started exercising 45min after breakfast
during - strawberry / guava juice
post - 2scoop carb, 1scoop whey, leftover juice, egg
lunch - most probably mixed rice
tea - 2scoop oat, 2tbp milk, 0.5scoop nitro
dinner - bubba gum
supper - 0.5scoop nitro, 2tbp milk

WORKOUT
squat - 3x6x45 (stil can't get back to pre cny form, beginning to get intimidated by this exer)
bench press - 3x7/7/4x40 (nothing to shout about)
bent row - 3x8x45 (not satisfactory)
incline press - 3x7/5/7x35 (can't complain much since raised wt)

This was the worst workout since i started my journal. No energy, no interest, no drive..... Mayb its cos i think too much abt work, abt my leaking pipe, or issit i'm not used to workout in the mng ? *Mad2 angry2* Taking some juice during exercise did not help. Only brute willpower to finish the workout drove me on.


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LOL ya man, sometimes I get intimidated by the squat too. Very taxing exercise. Don't worry bout it bro, at least you finished your exercise for the day. Working out is about persevering through the hard times as well! Be motivatedddddd~!
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Thx for bringing the whole pic into view. Hmph.. i think i caused the hard times unto myself cos it looks that i only have trouble in my day A workouts but not day B eg on tue & today. Gonna reorganise the exercises nxt wk.I suspect that doin deadlift the nxt day is hindering recovery of squat. Might look into my preworkout diet too for days A cos i dun have problems earlier when using weightgainers, probably a cal deficit.

DIET
mng - usual 500cal shake + omega
tea - -
lunch - cheecheongfun + lots yongtaufoo
tea - -
preworkout - oat, milk, nitro
during - papaya / strawberry juice
post - carb, whey
dinner - chick rice
supper - milk, nitro

WORKOUT
military press - 3x10/10/9x25 (up reps)
deadlift - 3x6x50 (dare not do too much, the waist feels like wanna putus from my butt, lucky back muscles held up)
lateral raise - 3x9x5 (up reps, can c dat my left lateral delts r growing a bit & balance out the front delt)
chin - 3x8 (up reps)

TIME
1h20m

Will have to prepare myself mentally for the nxt squat. The moment the bar rests on my shoulders, shocking.gif it feels so heavy ! & i start to think 'die die'.

Gonna buy more egyptian strawberries, much bigger firmer & keeps longer than american / korean / camerons berries. Out of bananas too.
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Good to hear that your lateral delts are improving. Be extra careful during execution of deadlift. If done wrongly or you feel too taxing, it could damage your back wink.gif
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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Feb 13 2009, 10:34 PM)
Will have to prepare myself mentally for the nxt squat. The moment the bar rests on my shoulders,  shocking.gif it feels so heavy ! & i start to think 'die die'.
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Bro how long have u been doing fullbody? Maybe can change to HVT or MaxOT edi?
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Bro how long have u been doing fullbody?  Maybe can change to HVT or MaxOT edi?
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I think 2 mths roughly, but it feels just like not long ago haha.. I seem to enjoy these exercises. Also dun wan to quit now that i'm fired up, cos i'm stuck in a rut in an exercise. Wanna do my revenge b4 i even contemplate walking away mad.gif rolleyes.gif


Added on February 16, 2009, 9:10 pmDIET
mng - usual 500cal shake (forgot omega vmad.gif muz take tonite)
tea - egg
lunch - chick rice + pork
preworkout - 3 scoops oat, 2.5 tbp milk, 1scoo nitro
during - papaya juice
post - carb, whey
dinner - duno yet, wil consult my klang valley food guide
tea - leftover papaya juice
supper - milk, nitro

WORKOUT
squat - 3x8x45 (hooray ! back to cny strength. rewarded myself with papaya juice)
military press - 3x5x28 (up wt)
deadlift - 3x5x53 (up wt)
lateral raise - 3x10x5 (at last full 10 reps for all sets, might up wt nxt workout)

TIME
1h25m

Today was satifsying, at last broke out frm my rut - the evil scary squat. Did a lot of preparation to face up to my fears :
- Had bigger servings in my preworkout meal.
- psyched myself 'y if i can deal with other exercises, y not squat ?' Treated this as if i were a freshie experiencing squattin for 1st time.
- used my anger b4 squatting & just push my legs like a beast.
- to be insured, i dropped out the 1/2 squat which is harder i find, did all 3 sets full squats.
- Took deep breaths in between reps.

Felt great in my mind & gut, shld take chick chop dinner later.

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LOL reward yourself papaya juice only? tongue.gif

Those full body workout can be taxing bro.
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Hahha... sweet juice mah. Funny, lately the papaya not so sweet anymore. Will ask the aunty to choose for me nxt time.

DIET
mng - usual shake, out of bananas, put papaya instead
tea - egg
lunch - noodle (discipline slipping, ate at 2, to buck up)
preworkout - 3scoop oat, 200ml milk, 0.75scoop nitro
during - papaya shake
post - whey, carb, leftover papaya shake
dinner - mixed rice if can find
supper - 0.5scoop nitro, 2tbp milk, broccoli + olive oil

WORKOUT
bench press - 3x7/7/6x40 (not much improvement)
bent row - 3x8x45 (as usual, cheat here&ther, but feel the weighty exer is beneficial nevertheless. funny, the right delt feels the strain)
incline press - 3x7x35 (shld have done this exercise earlier last time instead of decline, feels its good for my chest tie-in to the shoulder)
chin - 2x8 (my fav closing exer rclxm9.gif confirmed that the grip is much improved with pinkies firmly over bar)

Will turn my attn to bench press as the nxt target to improve. The tough part is dat its quite hard on the wrists. Must also b disciplined to leave surfing & go eat within 1 hr after workout.
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Hopefully, looking at it will help condition my body to that end. Mind over matter biggrin.gif
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^ Holy shit now that makes me sooo jealous. I want that kinda body too! Still a long way to go...
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Can one lah icon_idea.gif malaysia boleh, u boleh, kita boleh ahhaa.. We just have to think more abt it, just like the pregnant mothers look at cute baby fotos hoping their babies would come out cute too, we can use the same principles.. think, dream more..


Added on February 19, 2009, 8:18 pmDIET
mng - same shake (forgot omega, muz take tonite)
tea - egg
lunch - bakuteh
preworkout - 2.5 tbp milk, 0.75scoo nitro, forgot my oats
during - guava/banana juice
post - carb, whey, juice
dinner - duno yet (to eat within 1 hr!)
tea - leftover papaya juice, broccoli
supper - milk, nitro, omega

WORKOUT
squat - 3x8x45 (dared to do half & full squats already)
military press - 3x6x28 (aim for 8 reps then add wt)
deadlift - 3x6x53 (challenging blink.gif , like it , hate it)
lateral raise - 3x10x5 (no energy to do more reps though i've been aiming for dat)

TIME
1h35m (forgetting my preworkout oats really stretched my workouts)

edit - dinner lamb cutlets

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Ikan kembong (mackerel) is better than salmon !
http://nutriweb.org.my/publications/mjn001...jn12n2_art5.pdf
pg. 5
kembong : 1,450mg omega/serving
salmon : 930mg omega/serving


But how come this fish is so cheeeap ? hmm.gif


Added on February 20, 2009, 5:17 pmDaily Reading
Seems that some theories downplaying the absorbtion/usefulness of ala is misplaced.
http://apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/APJCN/Proc.../Sinclair86.pdf
It has become recognised that ALA is metabolised by other pathways which may be quantitatively more important than the formation of DHA.... with estimates of the proportion of ALA being metabolised via this pathway being several fold greater than that to DHA..

There are so many conflicting studies, dunno which to believe..

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DIET
mng - shake
tea - egg
lunch - cheong fun + yongtaufoo
preworkout - 3scoop oat, 200ml milk, 0.75scoop nitro
during - guava/banana shake
post - whey, carb, leftover shake, milk, omega
dinner - duno
supper - 0.5scoop nitro, 2tbp milk, broccoli + olive oil

WORKOUT
bench press - 3x8/8/7x40 (aiming 888 nxt wk)
bent row - 3x8x45 (always cheating, but only for the wide grip)
incline press - 3x8x35
chin - 2x9 (2nd set last 2 reps had to come down rest)

Time 1h10m

Marketing list - papaya/banana/berry/egg/oat/milk.

To put up a progress pic to mark my physical progress / lack of it.

edit - dinner claypot chick rice


Added on February 20, 2009, 8:06 pmBurning the 63kg foto image into my mind. Noticed quite unusual clavicles. Reminds me of terminator - this guy must b wearing ecto-exoskeleton.

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No picture bro? hehe not confident nuff?
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Summor u've uploaded 2 of your benchmarked photos.. paiseh we compare is it? haha..
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Ya lah haha.. not as easy as i thought, putting my puny fotos.
Earlier i was thinkin, no pain no gain, pain physically then only can grow.. But this is psychological pain leh, duno can take or not.
Scared i dun like wat i c.. unsure.gif
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I took picture 3 weeks ago..seems kinda cheesy taking progress picture. Same as you la, still some lagging body part esp the chest. Wait la simpan dulu.

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Bodybuilders are eating tyrannosaurus regularly !
http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegreatbeyon...ns_dino_he.html
Analysis of a protein from Tyrannosaurus Rex confirms that our modern chickens ..

Can't understand y chick breast has more protein than legs. After all the chick can't fly but run.

Edit - checked calorieking, seems that both breast & leg have 25%-27% protein, same. My mistake.


Added on February 21, 2009, 10:01 am
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I took picture 3 weeks ago..seems kinda cheesy taking progress picture. Same as you la, still some lagging body part esp the chest.  Wait la simpan dulu.
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Hahaa.. yes, we'll use them as 'B4' fotos in the future biggrin.gif Mayb i'll take my back c how. My front is horrible cos of smal shoulder, stomach bloat & also the chest droopy cos upper part is not developed.

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Your right lats look better than your left... must be the angle. Too bad no before pic for comparison lol.
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Dude you're bigger than i thought. Nice lats. I am little skinnier than u lor..
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Can see your traps building too... nice picture hanging on the wall at your living hall btw.. haha
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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Feb 22 2009, 07:04 PM)
Your right lats look better than your left... must be the angle. Too bad no before pic for comparison lol.
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Yah, its the angle effect. Actually my left lat is thicker/better formed. My whole body is really unequal, left different frm right. It makes me sigh sometimes. I'll try to c if got old foto, but all with clothes on hhaha..

QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Feb 22 2009, 11:02 PM)
Dude you're bigger than i thought. Nice lats. I am little skinnier than u lor..
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Thx myvi smile.gif. Talking abt size, i've stopped growing since stopping my weightgainers. Will have to think of sth .. Eh, u r heavier than me rite. I think my weight is mostly behind (c my lovehandles ? blush.gif )so i believe your front side & legs are better than mine.

QUOTE(yongbn @ Feb 22 2009, 11:10 PM)
Can see your traps building too... nice picture hanging on the wall at your living hall btw.. haha
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I was a hunchback & the traps seems to accentuate this slightly but at least its not so bony as last time. I try to consciously stand up straighter cos of this. Oh.. dat was a carving i got back from phuket holiday smile.gif Waa.. u exercise ur eyes ah, can c so clear.


Added on February 23, 2009, 7:23 pmGotta fin entering my journal in 10mins. Take bath & have dinner within 1hr of my workout.

DIET
mng - 2scoop oat, , 8almonds, 1bigbanana, 0.5scoop nitrocore, 2tbp milkpowder (forgot flaxseed, to take omega at nite)
tea - -
lunch - cheongfun yongtaufoo + olive oil
preworkout - 2.5scoop oat, 0.75scoop nitrocore, 2tbp milk
during - 1 banana
post - 2tbp milk, 1scoop whey
dinner - broccoli, jawa mee, chick wing
supper - omega, 0.5scoop nitro, 2tbp milk

WORKOUT
squat - 3x10x45
military press - 3x7x28
deadlift - 3x8x52
laterals - 3x11x5

Time 1h25m

Really struggling with workouts, sweated as when i started rippetoe. Anyway, most reps increased, so no complaints. Shld increase wt nxt time.


Added on February 26, 2009, 2:51 pmThe first step to getting big is to really believe that becoming massive is possible. You have to accept the idea that you, too, have the privilege of being huge. Forget about genetics and body types. Set your own personal goals and work as hard as you can toward achieving them. The mind always gives up before the body. Remember that. If you have doubts, if you don't really believe, then you will fail. You create your own limits. rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Feb 22 2009, 07:04 PM)
Your right lats look better than your left... must be the angle. Too bad no before pic for comparison lol.
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Err.. i've added my earlier foto for comparison. Might take it out .. feelin a bit uncomfortable showin it.


Added on February 26, 2009, 10:19 pmDIET
mng - same shake + omegga
tea - egg
lunch - indian rice, took mutton, fatty maa good for me
preworkout - 2.5 tbp milk, 0.75scoo nitro, 2scoop oats
during - banana
post - glucose frm 4rings, whey
dinner - salmon, vege
supper - milk, nitro

WORKOUT
squat - 3x8x48 (recovered frm aching legs 2d ago, take advantage of 2nd wind, inc wt)
military press - 3x8x28
deadlift - 2x5/6x53 (wind gone, pooped)
lateral raise - 3x4x8 (up wt as intended last workout)

TIME
1h15m

Started workout onli 2hrs frm preworkout meal. Affected my energy, after squat / military, no energy for deadlift anymore. Probably also cos of squat too taxing. Actually took a banana b4 exercising but it didn't help..

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Since stopping weightgainers, seems that it is uphill getting bigger. Surfed up some diet plans like anabolic / zone but not really sure if they r suitable for ectos. I think my food intake is not good enough, relying on supplements for xtra calories, probably lacking in real nutrients. Wil look up more on this. I wonder if anyone is following any special diet plan.

Anyhow, saw a member's journal & his delicious home cooked food. So las 2d, made up my dinner modelled on his fish/vege concept. Made a mess in the kitchen & the fish in bits, veges soggy.

Nevertheless, i eat anything , so finished them. Wil cook more often.


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LOL your cooking looks like its poisoned or something hahahahahah! xD Anyway better than me, I can't cook at all... Great quote there though, thanks! thumbup.gif
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Ectomorph like me also. How much weight you gained so far?
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Bro have try cooking a whole chicken? Cook it (steam, boil whatever) and can store it for the whole week..Place in plastic containers and store in the fridge. Haven't try this myself but gonna start next week maybe with half chicken first.
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We should have an ectomorph club or something where all the hard gainers gather... ahahaha... Well on the bright side, at least we can eat anything and still not get fat.
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DIET
mng - shake, omega
tea - egg
lunch - mixd rice
preworkout - 3scoop oat, 1scoop milk, 0.75scoop nitro
during - banana
post - whey, glucose
dinner - duno
supper - 0.5scoop nitro, 1scoop milk

WORKOUT
bench press - 3x6x43
bent row - 3x8x45 (will b a long time b4 i able to row heavier, but form is improving, trying to bend down more cos now hitting the traps more)
incline press - 3x7x38
chin - 2x10/8+3

Time 1h15m

Only managed to start exercisin 2.5 hrs after preworkout meal, worried it wil b a repeat of yesterday so swallowed the last nearly rotten banana that i thought of throwing. And took postworkout drink b4 workout is done. After switching to glucose which is lighter on my stomach, i yearn for dinner earlier compared to adding carbs last time which is a good thing or else i will linger & let dinner wait. 1 mth from now to add milk too and c if thers any difference.


Added on February 27, 2009, 9:11 pm
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LOL your cooking looks like its poisoned or something hahahahahah! xD Anyway better than me, I can't cook at all... Great quote there though, thanks! thumbup.gif
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Caught the fish with explosive mah smile.gif The natural taste of the fish is good ! I just sprinkled some italian spice (supposed to b for spaghetti) & the aroma made it more appetising. Actually i can't cook too, only can steam / boil my dishes but good thing is its fast to prepare. D quote copied somewher 1. Hope hope..

QUOTE(Kelv @ Feb 26 2009, 11:00 PM)
Ectomorph like me also. How much weight you gained so far?
Your quote and determination spark up my spirit.
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I was 49kg b4 starting weightgainers. Took 1yr -> 57kg. After i started rippetoe, i gained 4.5kg (+tummy) in 1.5 mth. Then lost 1.5kg during my break. Hey kelv, i saw ur 'wanted' foto. Not bad lah yr bod. If tone ur muscles u'll look even better !

QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Feb 27 2009, 08:18 AM)
Bro have try cooking a whole chicken? Cook it (steam, boil whatever) and can store it for the whole week..Place in plastic containers and store in the fridge. Haven't try this myself but gonna start next week maybe with half chicken first.
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Actually i thought of it too ! nod.gif Today's star saw giant is selling the cheapest chicken. Might go do shopping tomorrow to stock up. I just hate the cleaning up so much afer cooking. Pls do do a posting of your dish !

QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Feb 27 2009, 07:33 PM)
We should have an ectomorph club or something where all the hard gainers gather... ahahaha... Well on the bright side, at least we can eat anything and still not get fat.
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Ahaha.. really not ? Hey, sounds interesting ! Can b an ecto thread or gathering like u said. But ppl will stare leh, so many coconut trees in 1 spot. They'll think , addicts aaah hmm.gif sweat.gif

Hay, nice connecting with u all ! I'm gonna go for dinner now. Hafta to stick wit my 1hr eat rule.

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Ahaha.. really not ? Hey, sounds interesting ! Can b an ecto thread or gathering like u said. But ppl will stare leh, so many coconut trees in 1 spot. They'll think , addicts aaah


This one time i walk a dark streets in JB got a person ask if i want to buy drug blink.gif
That's one of "experiences" that have me started me on this hobby. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Feb 27 2009, 07:33 PM)
We should have an ectomorph club or something where all the hard gainers gather... ahahaha... Well on the bright side, at least we can eat anything and still not get fat.
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Yeah, ecto gathering.
We workout in a gym then go food hunting and stuff ourselves full with high calorie food.

Or gather for a buffet lunch/dinner after a serious workout... let the restaurant have a run for its money! X^D
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Ayoyo.. darknight ah u prowling ard the dark corners of the city. My experience was i got threatened to turn over my wallet and there were aunties around, yet i was the 1 targeted.

Hi iamyuanwu, hope ur enjoyin ur china stay. Buffet sounds like a lot of fun icon_idea.gif .. When r u comin home ? How do we get this club up & running ? I think wallpaper can b chairman la since he came up with this idea notworthy.gif


Added on March 2, 2009, 8:29 pmDIET
mng - mornin shake
tea - egg
lunch - udon
preworkout - 2scoop milk, 0.5scoo nitro, 2scoop oats
during - banana + papaya juice
post - glucose, whey, leftover juice
dinner - kembong, egg, vege
supper - milk, nitro, to take omega

WORKOUT
squat - 3x5x50 (up wt, theres no stopping me now, targetting 1x my bodyweight)
military press - 3x4x30 (up wt)
deadlift - 3x8x53 (thought to do 2sets, lazy but lucky feel fresh still, so fin all 3)
lateral raise - 3x4x8 (left shoulder lagging in strength & form, lateral delts not working well to offset front delts)

TIME
1h30m

Will cook dinner ltr. Got ready all my ingredients for dinner this week - fish, chicken & vege enough for 4days. To cook quality meals on workout days as outside food is mostly starch & < meat. Shit. Just finished sipping my 600ml fruit juice + protein = lots carb too laugh.gif


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Eh I wasn't being serious about the club lah lol! Are you guys for real?
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mng - shake, omega
tea - egg
lunch - nasi lemak
preworkout - 3scoop oat, 2scoop milk, 0.75scoop nitro
during - papaya juice
post - whey, glucose, juice
dinner - chicken, vege, olive oil
supper - 0.5scoop nitro, 2scoop milk

WORKOUT
bench press - 3x7/5/5x43 (lacklustre performance, shoulders stiff, cos of this decide to stop aiming bar to collarbone, frm now on to touch sternum for full rom)
bent row - 3x8x45 (i think i'm near parallel to flr this time, will take vid nxt workout to check form)
incline press - 3x7x38 (sets 1&2 feel strange at the shoulders, only managed to feel at ease on 3rd set)
chin - 2x9/8+3

Time 1h20m

Overall, not as my normal performance, just don't have the oomph during workout. Anyway, not worrying much. All reps must go up on thurs. Start cookin once chick thaws.


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Eh I wasn't being serious about the club lah lol! Are you guys for real?
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LOL, no way man! I don't want to be orang kerusi or what haha!

Btw on what angle do you do your inclines? Normally don't need to incline it so much, just a little will do.

For flat barbell bench press, I think pressing it from the collarbone is too high up your chest. The bar should be at the midsection of your chest, aligned with your nipples or something. Elbows about 60 degrees from body, and forearms 90 degrees from the floor (keeping it pointing as straight upwards as possible) when executing the movement.

Anyway darklight said before that the barbell bench press is prone to injury, and that doing flat bench presses with dumbbells would be preferable.
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We should have an ectomorph club or something where all the hard gainers gather... ahahaha... Well on the bright side, at least we can eat anything and still not get fat.
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count me in. rclxms.gif
we have underweight corner b4, but now gone


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Well it seems there's quite a lot of ectos here too! Our new moderator pizzaboy is an ecto as well I believe? xD
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haha...yess kinda a few ectos la..
i think im one also la..
learning from you guys also la..

i think my diet been really bad la..
wake up at lunch..so eat breakfast at 12noon haha..
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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Mar 3 2009, 11:23 PM)
LOL, no way man! I don't want to be orang kerusi or what haha!

Btw on what angle do you do your inclines? Normally don't need to incline it so much, just a little will do.

For flat barbell bench press, I think pressing it from the collarbone is too high up your chest. The bar should be at the midsection of your chest, aligned with your nipples or something. Elbows about 60 degrees from body, and forearms 90 degrees from the floor (keeping it pointing as straight upwards as possible) when executing the movement.

Anyway darklight said before that the barbell bench press is prone to injury, and that doing flat bench presses with dumbbells would be preferable.
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Thanks for that info. Last time i do those i got a funny feeling on the elbows..maybe its because the placement is wrong like u said. I prefer dumbells too, but my barbell plates wont fit my dumbell bar.. rolleyes.gif


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Oh wow, health&fitness is like an ecto gathering ground. .. underweight corner sounds like a viable proposition like dat. Hey, Bata & pizza ecto ? But seriously, they dun look dat thin leh.

Thx for the tips wallpaper. I'll hafta to watch my form in more detail frm now on cos I'm aimin for heavier weights if possible. Oh yah, i jus incline my bench on the lowest notch, dun wan to hit my front delts too much. Eh, wallpaper, how abt openin an underweight cnr ? Tht would b a good start for us ectos smile.gif

Bro Alzaim, i used to b have dat same habit too. Mayb u can put a glass of milk in the fridge b4 u sleep or those 250ml packs bedside, set a mornin alarm, gulp down d milk & u can con' zz again.

Ey.. how come ur dumbell & barbell bars different ? Not std 1 meh ? Mine is same size.


Added on March 5, 2009, 9:38 pmDIET
mng - mornin shake
tea - -
lunch - mixed rice
preworkout - 2scoop milk, 0.5scoo nitro, 2scoop oats
during - banana + guava juice
post - glucose, whey, leftover juice
dinner - chick, egg, brocc
supper - milk, nitro, to take omega at nite, standardise frm now on cos oways forget

WORKOUT
squat - 3x6/6/6x50 (sweating at the scalp, damn irritating)
military press - 3x5x30 (can hear like tiny crushing plastic sounds frm my shoulder, muscles tearing ? good2.. repair & bigger after this)
deadlift - 2x8x53
lateral raise - 3x4x8 (did xtra 1 rep each set for left shoulder)

TIME
1h15m

Can feel my squats improving but the xtra strain affecting my deadlift. So after 1 set of deads, went straight to laterals & after dat finished off the deads, but still can do only 1 more set.

Today was 3rd time cooking. Cut off the fats from chick thighs & boiled with lawang. Cannot finish, to take the bal after dis. Learnt my lesson cos on monday, just threw the thighs with kayu manis inside pot & boiled. The oily smell nearly made me puke & 1/2 way eating was sweating shakehead.gif forcing the meat down.

Noticed that its usual after eating big meals my tummy is so much larger. Resigned to the fact that i won't b able to gain weight without a tummy & distended intestines. Nevertheless, hope my other parts will outgrow the tummy in future.

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Didn't realise u reached 50kg squats..lol i am lagging behind lor =_=
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Squats and deads both work the quads a lot. If i'm not mistaken rippetoe's workout routine is actually only one set of deadlift with 5 only reps right? As opposed to the squats, you should be able to go heavier on the deadlift because it is easier to get into position without the help of any fancy equipments. All you need for deads is a barbell, some weights (preferably round-shaped) and an even floor.

Btw I won't be opening an underweight corner la lol...
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Didn't realise u reached 50kg squats..lol i am lagging behind lor =_=
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Not really lah, you r placing emphasis on other exercises mah. For me, i put it as the 1st workout cos i reali need to make it bigger. My knee joints r bigger than the muscles .. imagine a real famished african. Glad to say that the bones r filling up & dun look so obvious now but since my bones r small, legs stil look smal.

QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Mar 6 2009, 11:29 PM)
Squats and deads both work the quads a lot. If i'm not mistaken rippetoe's workout routine is actually only one set of deadlift with 5 only reps right? As opposed to the squats, you should be able to go heavier on the deadlift because it is easier to get into position without the help of any fancy equipments. All you need for deads is a barbell, some weights (preferably round-shaped) and an even floor.

Btw I won't be opening an underweight corner la lol...
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Yup, ur right dead is supposed to b onli 1 set. I think i mixed things up already. Ok, gonna reduce my workout to 2 sets then smile.gif save my energy for shoulder cos i reali need to pay more attn to it. Trima kasih ! Hahah.. ok la no underweight cnr.. for time being haha.. but if u wan to launch it later oso can ahaha..

DIET
mng - 2.5scoop oat, 2scoop milk(big scoop !), 1tbp flaxseed, 0.5guava, 1banana, nitro
tea - -
lunch - mixed rice
preworkout - 4scoop oat (smal scoop), 1scoop milk, 0.75scoop nitro
during - guava juice
post - whey, glucose, juice, egg
dinner - duno
supper - 0.5scoop nitro, 1.5scoop milk, omega

WORKOUT
bench press - 3x6/6/7x43 (to sternum now, a bit taxing cos rom but feels better overall, thx for reminding wallpaper)
bent row - 3x8x45 (took vid to monitor, tried as hell to parallel but unsuccessful, had brief ache tryin too hard, try to lower progressively in later workouts, anyway the weights feel light now, good sign of strength increase)
incline press - 3x8/7/7x38
chin - 2x10/8+3

Time 1h10m

Was told by a girl my skin is smoother & looks like got oily sheen on it. Told her i taking all types of oil - olive,flaxseed,omega.. 'No wonder' she said. Hhahaa.. bodybuilding is starting to make me feel like a girl.

edit - dinner fried noodle + egg

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ehh mr potato..
whats ur progress for now?
from what to what now haha..
and goals?
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ehh mr potato..
whats ur progress for now?
from what to what now haha..
and goals?
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I was 49kg b4 starting weightgainers. Took 1yr -> 57kg. After i started rippetoe, i gained 4.5kg (+tummy) in 1.5 mth. Then lost 1.5kg during my break.

That was on 27feb. Weight stil same but perut buncit smaller ordy.

My goal is just to look normal, so that if ppl c me, he won't think 'this guy is so thin' but instead 'this guy has a good bod..' cool2.gif Need to make myself heavier to fill the bones.
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hhaha...not bad la...
how tall are you..

im 167cm and roughly 60kg at the moment..
but still damn skinny...i think too active in sports la...
yesss just need to eat more right...but must slowly build the abilities to put down those food...
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Bro alzaim, ur definitely better off than me. I'm 180cm at that weight sad.gif Any plans to take up weights ? It'll help ..
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yeaaa...im taking up weights...
well i was 55 i think a year ago...
i notice i gain alot of weight during national service..
proper timing for meals is very important i guess..

now 60kg trying to gain 5more kg..

Mr potato which gym do u go to?

btw you are ermm kinda young right?

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Good for u ! I wil have to sort out my meals to resume my kg journey. Not eating properly lately.

No la, i workout home, can watch tv same time ahhaa. Young ? I wish. I'm uncle already, wrinkles wil start appearing on my face soon unsure.gif .


Added on March 9, 2009, 9:05 pmDIET
mng - shake
tea - egg
lunch - mixed rice
preworkout - 2scoop milk, 0.5scoo nitro, 2.5scoop oats
during - guava juice
post - glucose, whey, leftover juice
dinner - mayb dim sum (meat3 !)
supper - 1.5scoop milk, nitro, OMEGA !

WORKOUT
squat - 3x8x50 (good good no give up)
military press - 3x6x30 (aiming for 8 but too bad)
deadlift - 1x8x53
lateral raise - 3x10x5 (went back down on weight to hit lateral delts properly, damn my front delts for disturbing !)

TIME
1h15m

No electricity, so exercised with candle. Got xcuse to shorten workout & do 1set deads only. Go shop for chicken or fish later. Kinda hard to stick to cooking my meals. Will is ther, somehow jus wasn't able to do it consistently

edit-dinner lamb chop. too late to shop

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Not really lah, you r placing emphasis on other exercises mah. For me, i put it as the 1st workout cos i reali need to make it bigger. My knee joints r bigger than the muscles .. imagine a real famished african. Glad to say that the bones r filling up & dun look so obvious now but since my bones r small, legs stil look smal.


I keep changing my routine la.. i cant stand doing one routine for a long time. I get bored easily..i want to try some new exercises. Now i think i want to do 4 day split from the usually 3

Chest/tricep
Back/bicep
Shoulders/Traps/forearms
Legs

Optimally i should do something like Rippetoe or 5x5, but dont think i can stand squatting 3 times a week. sweat.gif
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Haha.. ya i noticed u like experimenting. Well, eventually u'll find sth that works & u like & then eventually u might just stick to it. Anyway, i think there r other exercises that will work the legs too, mayb u can eg exer the legs consistently every cycle but may change the type of workout frm time to time eg, squats in 1st mth, & then if bored -> leg extensions & other mths front barbell squat/dumbell squat etc though the variety might be restricted as compared to the many machine options at gyms. Or mayb heavy weight/low reps then moderate weight/hi reps the nxt wk. The idea is to keep hitting the bodypart to b improved without fail even if its done with different workouts. Actually i'm thankful i'm doin squats 2x instead of 3x per wk too ! Hhaha.. biggrin.gif What i do is to keep hitting higher reps every workout until i can't avoid it , theeeeen only i increase the weights. Its less stressful this way.


Added on March 10, 2009, 8:40 pmDIET
mng - 2.5scoop oat, 2scoop milk, 1tbp flaxseed, 1banana, nitro
tea - egg
lunch - mixed rice
preworkout - 2scoop oat (smal scoop), 1.5scoop milk, 0.55scoop nitro
during - guava juice
post - whey, glucose
dinner - duno
supper - 0.5scoop nitro, 1.5scoop milk, omega

WORKOUT
bench press - 3x7x43 (stuck 0.5s 1/2way up on 2nd last rep, stuck 1s 1/2way up on last rep, nearly called out to my hsemate for icon_question.gif )
bent row - 3x8x45 (feels easy nowdays, but will stick to this wt cos wanna conserve energy n improve following workouts)
incline press - 3x8x38 (can c some result on upper chest already)
chin - 2x10/9+2 (aiming 10 10)

Time 1h5m

Feeling hot stil but gonna bath & rush go shopping for food tonite.


Added on March 10, 2009, 11:09 pmBought 500g chic fillet - $10 ! Can buy whole chicken. Pokai..
Dinnner was ayamas+vege=$13

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DIET
mng - mornin shake (woke up late, amt less than usual)
tea - - sad.gif
lunch - mixed rice
preworkout - 1.5scoop milk, 0.5scoo nitro, 2scoop oats
during - banana + guava juice
post - glucose, whey, leftover juice
dinner - chick, french bean + brinjal, 2slices cheese
supper - 1.5scoopmilk, nitro, to take omega

WORKOUT
squat - 3x8x50
military press - 3x6x30
deadlift - 2x8x53
lateral raise - 3x10x5

TIME 1h25m

Did my off day wrist exercises today as will have co. training a few days.
reverse curl - 2x18x8
curl - 2x16x13
hand gripper - 28reps

Gonna cook my inaugural chick breast for dinner.

Edit - so full, can't finish my tasteless chick breast. Gonna miss my supper sad.gif Wil need to spend time looking at recipes. To pack protein/milk/oat/banana etc for nxt few days co training

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Tasteless? How u cook? Try marinate with barbeque sos or honey.. I am also dumb founded on the chicken preparation.
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DIET
mng - shake, mihon, egg, sausage
tea - friend wanton, popia
lunch - mixed rice + lots fruits
preworkout - 2scoop oat, 1.5scoop milk, 0.2scoop nitro
during -
post - whey, glucose
dinner - fish, rice , vege
supper - 0.5scoop nitro, 2scoop milk, omega

WORKOUT
bench press - 2x8x43
bent row - 2x8x45
incline press - 2x9x38
chin - 2x10/8+3

Time 1h5m

Feeling lethargic n yawn.gif jus back from course. Did not have good sleep cos of colleague snoring. Decided to do 1set of everything just so not to miss workout, in the end did 2. Bravo ..? Hit bed early today...

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DIET
mng - strawberry, almond, milk, banana, nitro, oat
tea - egg
lunch - indian rice. surprised myself cos not feelin full despite big serving
preworkout - 1.5scoop milk, 0.4scoop nitro, 2scoop oats
during - papaya juice
post - glucose, whey
dinner - chick, broccoli
supper - milk, nitro, cheese, omega

WORKOUT
squat - 3x6x53 (up wt)
military press - 3x7x30
deadlift - 2x8x53
lateral raise - 3x10x5

TIME 1h15m

Feeling stronger overall.

Thx for ur tip myvi, unfortunately i forgot to marinate my chick wit some sauce or watever earlier. Will cook it dry type wit onions/garlic & c how. sweat.gif Stil got a few days supply of chick- wil marinate tomorow's meal later, hafta unfreeze it 1st. Leceh..

Edit - chick won't thaw in fridge. C tomolo how. Can't finish chick but it was more tasteful & colorful. Veery full. Duno can take supper or not.

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mng - shake
tea - egg
lunch - yongtaufoo (not enuff)
preworkout - 2scoop oat, 1.5scoop milk, 0.5scoop nitro
during - papaya juis
post - whey, glucose, juice
dinner - spag, drumstick, broccoli, cheese
supper - 0.5scoop nitro, 2scoop milk, omega

WORKOUT
bench press - 3x8/7/4+2+2x43 (had the scariest day of all since i started workout. on 1st set lost all energy during 5th rep, halfway up my arms gave way & barbell went down slowly to chest, was scared couldn't breathe but thk god i could, rolled barbell to abs, tried to get up, couldn't, rolled it to stomach, tried to lift bar but won't budge, after a few tries only managed to up myself & rolled bar to legs. 3rd set same thing happened, luckily this time in better frame of mind, rolled bar all the way to tummy, got up a bit, then used bicep curl to lift bar frm body. rclxub.gif )

bent row - 3x8x45 (hoping i'm not off form & luckily rows r ok)
incline press - 3x4/3+1/3x40 (what is wrong with my chest ?! no energy)
Depressed, went to watch jus for laffs to cheer myself.

chin - 2x10/10 rclxm9.gif

Time 1h25m

Could'nt figure out whats happening.... Its a strange day.

Ok, gonna cook my salted chick drool.gif


Added on March 18, 2009, 8:26 pmWeighed myself +2kg. Yayy

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We can't always be at our best every other day so I think its normal to sometimes perform below expectations. And be more careful with the bar next time lol!

Oh and congrats on the 2kg increase! big achievement for us ectomorphs haha...

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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Mar 18 2009, 09:05 PM)
We can't always be at our best every other day so I think its normal to sometimes perform below expectations. And be more careful with the bar next time lol!

Oh and congrats on the 2kg increase! big achievement for us ectomorphs haha...
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Hiy, tq for the kind words. It was a great feeling to gain back the 2kg i lost during cny. Been feeling sick lately, missed 2d workout last wk, worried a repeat of weight loss, so today did my workout after dinner but less 1 set. Glad to note my strength is stil there.

DIET
mng - almond, milk, banana, nitro, oat
tea - egg
lunch - mixed rice
preworkout dinner - yong tau foo
during - guava juice
post - glucose, whey, juice
supper - instant mee (inspired by myvi hahaa..) milk, omega

WORKOUT
squat - 2x8x53
military press - 2x8/7x30
deadlift - 2x8x53
lateral raise - 3x10x5

TIME 1h

Head felt like it was in the clouds floating kinda feelin but it was good to know i did not stray away from exercising too long. Sweated like a dog, but instead of dripping at the tongue, it came out frm every pore of my body.
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The Jay Cutler secret is out. He's so big cos he zz for 10 hours !

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Haven't improved on my sleepin time much, so stil got much room for growth whistling.gif

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DIET
mng - shake
tea - -
lunch - mixed rice
preworkout - 2scoop oat, 1.5scoop milk, 0.2scoop nitro
during - guava, banana juice
post - whey, glucose, juice, egg
dinner - duno
supper - 0.5scoop nitro, 2scoop milk, omega

WORKOUT
bench press - 3x8x43
bent row - 2x10x45
incline press - 3x8/5+3/5+3x38
chin - 2x10+2/7+5

Time 1h15m

Uneventful workout, feel relieved.

edit - dinner jawa mi + olive oil. Gave me 1 egg some more. Wow, today 2 eggs. Wil reduce supper milk b4 zz

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ur bench weight
kg or lbs?
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Hi alzaim, its kg. Hey, dun forget to eat sufficiently to top-up ur energy reserves b4 benching since u went cardio today.
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WORKOUT
bench press - 3x8/7/4+2+2x43 (had the scariest day of all since i started workout. on 1st set lost all energy during 5th rep, halfway up my arms gave way & barbell went down slowly to chest, was scared couldn't breathe but thk god i could, rolled barbell to abs, tried to get up, couldn't, rolled it to stomach, tried to lift bar but won't budge, after a few tries only managed to up myself & rolled bar to legs. 3rd set same thing happened, luckily this time in better frame of mind, rolled bar all the way to tummy, got up a bit, then used bicep curl to lift bar frm body.  rclxub.gif )
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They way you described it sounded so funny. I also kena before. That time super noob, but kept increasing weight weekly. Then 'wham'... 1 fine day tak cukup tidur --> Next day's bench press I got stapled under the bar.
Had to roll it all the way to the thighs then put it on the floor, and deadlift it back up to the rack. Now thinking about it... it was quite funny, but it was damn scary at that time. laugh.gif
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mrPOTATO... u r taking whey protein rite? not sure u are aware of this or not, actually there are supplements called L-glutamine which is good for post-workout recovery.. L-arginine and BCAA are well-recommended too..
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Mar 25 2009, 09:16 PM)
They way you described it sounded so funny. I also kena before. That time super noob, but kept increasing weight weekly. Then 'wham'... 1 fine day tak cukup tidur --> Next day's bench press I got stapled under the bar.
Had to roll it all the way to the thighs then put it on the floor, and deadlift it back up to the rack. Now thinking about it... it was quite funny, but it was damn scary at that time. laugh.gif
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Luckily not in the gym else it would be real embarassing. After golek the bar got red marks all the way frm chest to leg haha.. Hmm.. now that u mentioned it - lack of sleep in ur case, i think mayb i was going to b sick, that mus b d explanation.

QUOTE(yongbn @ Mar 25 2009, 09:18 PM)
mrPOTATO... u r taking whey protein rite? not sure u are aware of this or not, actually there are supplements called L-glutamine which is good for post-workout recovery.. L-arginine and BCAA are well-recommended too..
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I din really know dat, thx for the info. I m holding back frm spending more on supplements, cost ctrl haha.. i'll take a look into it, c how. Hey, heard the durians in Blk Pulau r flowering !

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realli?? haha... then it's abt time for u to pay a visit over here again!
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realli?? haha... then it's abt time for u to pay a visit over here again!
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Added on March 27, 2009, 8:08 pmDIET
mng - flaxseed, strawberry, almond, milk, banana, nitro, oat
tea - egg
lunch - mixed rice
preworkout - 1.5scoop milk, 0.4scoop nitro, 2scoop oats
during - papaya juice
post - glucose, whey, jus
dinner - chick, potato leaves, spaghetti
supper - milk, nitro, cheese, omega

WORKOUT
squat - 3x6/6/5x55 (up wt)
military press - 3x6/5/5x30 (wat the heck. body playing roulette ? different body parts playing tricks on me each workout)
deadlift - 2x8x53
lateral raise - 3x10x5 (been stagnant some time, to inc reps, shoulders my top priority now)

TIME 1h10m

Took out my 1wk frozen chick leg to cook ltr. Haven't been doing research, boil again rclxub.gif


Added on March 28, 2009, 7:57 pmDIET
mng - shake
tea - - (getting lazy to eat my egg nowdays, to rectify)
lunch - mixed rice
preworkout - 2scoop oat, 1.5scoop milk, 0.4scoop nitro
during - papaya juice
post - whey, glucose, juice, egg
dinner - duno
supper - 0.5scoop nitro, 1.5scoop milk, omega

WORKOUT
bench press - 3x8/7+1/6x43
bent row - 2x10x45
incline press - 3x3/2/7x38 (left lateral delts aching)
chin - 2x10/7+4

Time 1h10m

Damn2 strength not as good as 2 wks ago but body feels tighter as though ther is some improvement to muscles. Suspect its my milk/nitrocore intake that has been going down (takin smaller portions nowdays), furthermore bodyweight has increased. Not enuff nutrients ? Seriously considering glutamine after doing some reading of its healing properties cos got some smal aches here & ther. Increase my protein intake 1st, c how.

Edit - dinner lamb shank, skipped supper

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DIET
mng - flaxseed, strawberry, almond, milk, banana, nitro, oat
tea - egg
lunch - mixed rice
preworkout - 2scoop milk, 0.4scoop nitro, 2.5scoop oats
during - papaya juice
post - glucose, whey, jus
dinner - ?
supper - milk, nitro, potato leaves, omega

WORKOUT
squat - 3x6x55
military press - 3x7/7/5x30
deadlift - 2x8x53
lateral raise - 3x11x5

TIME 1h20m

Upped my preworkout figuring i need more energy. I wanted to believe it worked but too bad my shoulders decided act otherwise - sucked in military press but compensated with an xtra rep in lat raise. Squats stabled, i think can increase reps nxt.

Wil be takin antibiotics startin tonite. To buy yogurt/yakult. Lets c if i can maintain form after this.

Edit - dinner fried noodle, got 2chick wings for supper, dunno can fit potato leaves/milk or not

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Don't go gym when sick or when feeling lethargic.
It'll take longer to get well. Just do light exercises like slow walking, light cycling, window shopping, leisure activities.

Anyway, try squeezing your butts when doing military press. It makes the press feels easier. =)

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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Mar 30 2009, 11:14 PM)
Don't go gym when sick or when feeling lethargic.
It'll take longer to get well. Just do light exercises like slow walking, light cycling, window shopping, leisure activities.

Anyway, try squeezing your butts when doing military press. It makes the press feels easier. =)
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Thx for the advice .. but too late cos i jus did my exer haha.. I read some bodybuilders say they never miss their workouts in yrs even when sick so I wanna b a man too laugh.gif Anyway, i'll stop if i really can't go on, till then..

The squeezin butt thing, is it i hafta tense my butt and make it solid, sort of make it hard ? Sounds quite tricky. I'll try nxt thurs.


Added on March 31, 2009, 8:00 pmDIET
mng - shake
tea- egg
lunch - mixed rice
preworkout - 2scoop oat, 2scoop milk, 0.5scoop nitro, banana
during -
post - whey, glucose
dinner - dim sum, potato leaves, vitagen
supper - 0.5scoop nitro, 1.5scoop milk, omega

WORKOUT
bench press - 2x7/7/7+1x43
bent row - 2x10x45
incline press - 3x7/7/8x38
chin - 2x10/8+4

Time 1h10m


Hmm.. chest back to normal. Left shoulder aching less. Is this a miracle or what ? The only difference is i'm on antibiotics & vitagen/yakult .. shakehead.gif Will go shopping & stock up on yoghurt then haha.. whatever helps even if its psycho. Take out & soak potato leaves frm y'day, hafta force myself eat more vege.

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DIET
mng - almond, 300ml yoghurt, 1banana, 0.5scoop nitro, 2scoop oat, 400ml soya bean
tea - egg
lunch - noodles
preworkout - 400ml soya bean, 0.5scoop nitro, 3scoop oats, yoghurt
during - -
post - reduced glucose, 1scoop whey
dinner - mixed rice
supper - 0.5scoop nitro, 200ml soya bean, omega

WORKOUT
squat - 2x7x50, 1x9x40
military press - 3x9/10/9x25 (less ache on shoulders, a wt between this & last workout's shld b comfy enuff, dun wanna damage my joints esp as i doin behind neck presses)
deadlift - 1x10x40
lateral raise - 2x11x5

TIME 55m

Had to lay off milk for time being so m worried abt sufficient energy. And soya bean, 1 of the things that i had feared contributed to my soft behaviour in the past, had to be recalled as substitute.

Anyway , din really feel too much of a difference during workout, mayb cos i had lots of yoghurt+soya. Oso reduced weights might have helped. Yup, heeded someone's advice blush.gif better to take it easy awhile & recover sooner. Not sleepin well. Hopefully will b better by this weekend & can resume my milk. The feeling of 'security' is just not ther without it.
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HAahaha.... Why sick cannot take milk wan? Btw, I asked darkie before and he told me behind neck presses are dangerous and makes you prone to injury.
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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Apr 2 2009, 10:44 PM)
HAahaha.... Why sick cannot take milk wan? Btw, I asked darkie before and he told me behind neck presses are dangerous and makes you prone to injury.
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My sinus givin me problems, after drinkin milk more mucus come out.. haih.. Oh yah, i read abt the back press thing too. Thats y i'm a little worried, sometimes benching also ache a bit but its normally during 1st set only. Will be careful with my shoulders.. I think i'm taking on too much weight. Will reduce and c the effect how.


Added on April 4, 2009, 8:35 pmDIET
mng - 1yakult, 200ml soya bean, 1tbp flaxseed, 4tbp yoghurt, 10almond, 1banana
tea - -
lunch - chick rice + egg
preworkout - 3scoop oat, 200ml soya, 2tbp yoghurt, 0.5scoop nitro
during - banana
post - whey, glucose
dinner - chick rice
supper - 0.5scoop nitro, 200ml soya, vitagen, omega

WORKOUT
bench press - 2x8/9/8x40
bent row - 2x12/12/10x40
incline press - 2x10/10/12x30
chin - 10+4

Time 1h5m

Keeping my weights down & reps up. Feelin so much more comfy doing the exercises. Ahh.. but ayy.. how come still 1h5m ? Gotta look into really timing my rest periods.

Been wondering if i really shld lay off a while, a feeling of lethargy is somehow over me. Mind kinda muddled what's my decision, & compounded by regression of strength.

This is not a good thing. Ok, take a short break then & spend some time on my neglected aprt & car.

WILL COME BACK REFRESHED & READY FOR BATTLE !!




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Take a good rest. If you need it, you need it lol.
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Back with a vengeance, renewed vigour, accumulated spirit. Yeah ! Today was a good start to a brand new season. Spent some time to think abt my priorities, what i haven't been doing to achieve my goals. It a new chance to do new things, revisit my fav exercises & release my pent-up hunger to touch my weights again.

For my new season, i'm supposed to do these :-
-watch my rest timing
-plan my diet carefully & make sure they r in d fridge
-look into any new supplements / new food sources
-learn frm other's journals, n i've picked up some things to try
-sleep earlier.. discipline problem. shld set alarm for sleeping, not just waking
-eat within 1hr (if possible) haha.. got exception mah, write my journal & rest 40m, bath, drive to eat, by time reach destination 1hr liao

DIET
mng - 10almonds (yes ! no more puny 8 almonds), 100ml soya (finish bal. tonite & replace wit yogurt tomorrow), 1banana, 0.5scoop nitro, 3scoop oat, 1tbp flaxseed, 0strawberry (can't find fresh ones), 1tab probiotic. i'm taking out milk & try to reduce in my diet cos of sinus. lets hope it does not impact too much.
tea - egg
lunch - noodles (so little meat ! disappointed)
preworkout - 1scoop milk (to increase gradually, sinus mah), 0.5scoop nitro, 2scoop oats
during - papaya juice
post - jus, whey
dinner - to hunt ltr
supper - 0.75scoop milk (not those teeny weeny scoops leh), 0.3scoop (protein intake high liao, mus ctrl) nitro, omega

Ok, for workout A have changed the order. Giving priority to my narrow shoulders, so raises comes 1st. Was worried will affect squats but nuh, squats was easy. Getting cocky already. Have to acknowledge i ave reduced weights. Nvm, aiming for higher reps in coming exercises, soon !

WORKOUT
lateral raise - 3x11x5
squat - 3x7x50
military press - 3x8x25 (the exer that concerns me is this, cos of joint ache. suspect its me explosively jumpstartin the 1st rep. in 2nd set, pushed bar from shoulders slowly when startin & it felt better. nevertheless only time can tell)
deadlift - 2x8x50 (as always, the last exer is my fav)

TIME 57m (good2. try not to linger too long & it felt cartoonish when lookin at clock , eh 3 mins already ? 1 min is fast ! When i look at the min hand, it literally moves in front of my eyes. Anyway, must enforce 1m rule strictly tomorrow.

Ok, go gogooo 1hr up. Bath, then buy chicken, spice, fish, vege, tongkat ali (ini curi org punya punya idea) ...... Tonite to fine tune my calorie calculations.

edit - dinner lamb cutlets

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Tongkat Ali for postworkout? What does it do? I thought all it does is give 'tenaga batin' biggrin.gif
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Aaa.. this tongkat got magical powers 1. If i can remember, it gives feelin of wellness, encourage blood flow, promote testosterone, makes zz more syok.., ya other type of syok too haha.. lots more, jus can't remember. Actually i hope it can make me feel more energetic b4 workout lah, cos body + mind tired after 5. Wil report on effect, c got or not.
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Wow, sounds too good to be true haha. If its effective I should start taking it too! Where do u buy it from btw?
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Thx for the advice .. but too late cos i jus did my exer haha.. I read some bodybuilders say they never miss their workouts in yrs even when sick so I wanna b a man too  laugh.gif Anyway, i'll stop if i really can't go on, till then..
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Aaa.. this tongkat got magical powers 1. If i can remember, it gives feelin of wellness, encourage blood flow, promote testosterone, makes zz more syok.., ya other type of syok too haha.. lots more, jus can't remember. Actually i hope it can make me feel more energetic b4 workout lah, cos body + mind tired after 5. Wil report on effect, c got or not.
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Tongkat Ali for postworkout? What does it do? I thought all it does is give 'tenaga batin' biggrin.gif
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test booster aka tenaga batin la...lol.. its all in testosterone man. test also make u horny...
now many test booster in market use tongkat ali + tribulus extract. one of them is NutreX Vitrix

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[quote=wallpaper89,Apr 9 2009, 11:02 PM]
Wow, sounds too good to be true haha. If its effective I should start taking it too! Where do u buy it from btw?
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Got at any pharmacy, a few brands available till cannot settle on which to buy. I got it already, so can start nxt week. Ask the salesgirl, the one helped me look for it with a happy smile tongue.gif Actually read ballsbuilder posting he usin it. Mayb he can tell us more..

[quote=yongbn,Apr 9 2009, 11:37 PM]
tht's the way, bay-beh!
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Hahha.. long time no c. Still go exercise not ?

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test booster aka tenaga batin la...lol.. its all in testosterone man. test also make u horny...
now many test booster in market use tongkat ali + tribulus extract. one of them is NutreX Vitrix
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Hmm.. looks like its used widely. Shld b good then. Hope my undies can take it yea !
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Yeah babeh ! Everything A ok. Only thing is the left shoulder joint achin a bit on incline press. Disappeared after dat. Funny..


DIET
mng - 3tbp yogurt, 1tbp flaxseed, 10almond, 2banana, 0.5scoop nitro, 3scoop oat
tea - egg
lunch - mixed rice
preworkout - 3scoop oat, 2scoop milk
during - papaya jus
post - whey, jus, probiotics
dinner - ?
supper - 0.3scoop nitro, 0.5scoop milk, 3scoop yoghurt, omega,

Funny, 1g of yoghurt yields jus 0.6cal. And i thought i can use it in place of milk. Milk oh milk, be good to me yah.

Ok, changed my workout, just 1 actually, out wit bench press. It was an agonising choice, cos its an important exercise in rippetoe, but in the interests of not getting stale, sth had to go. I guess mr rippetoe will disown me for not following his workouts strictly. Anyhow dumbell flys have always fascinated me. Was it a good choice ?

WORKOUT
chest flys - 3x15/20/20x3 (woo.. yes, its good ! no joint ache, no discomfort at all ! what a miracle. no tricep help, totally the chest only, & bicep loh. the only problem is.. my baby weight haha..)
bent row - 3x9x45 (a very fuss free exer)
incline press - 2x10/12/12x33 (good good)
chin - 11/8+4

Time 47m (controlled timing makes sense now, the urgency just spurs me to keep the energy level up, no lazing & xcuses to entertain)

Quite satisfied wher my exercise direction is going. Only thing is my dinner preparations gone haywire. The chick/fish at hyper is just not fresh. Will spend time lookin ard for ingredients nxt 2d after work. Realising that hard exercise without bulking jus wil show nothin.

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Lallaa.. *smurfy song* Happy too cos my dinner this time is soo delicious. Hmm.. i believe i can b a good coooook brows.gif Actually the flavouring did the trick cos i've marinated them earlier.

Actually theres more chick & vege but can't stop eatin them b4 takin foto
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DIET
mng - 10almonds, 4tbp yogurt, 2bananas, 0.5scoop nitro, 3scoop oat, 1tbp flaxseed, 4strawberry, 1tab probiotic.
tea - egg
lunch - mixed rice
preworkout - 1.5scoop milk, 3scoop oats, forgot take tongkatali
during - 1banana
post - jus, whey
dinner - 220g chick, 80g (long bean, spinach, mushroom), grapeseed oil, olive, 50g spaghetty (having a more positive outlook eating more is possible after a very welcome meal)
supper - 1scoop milk, 3strawberry, omega, shit forgot to thaw yogurt so none for tonite

WORKOUT
lateral raise - 3x12x5
squat - 3x9x50 (can do more reps lah ! lazy bum)
military press - 3x9/9/10x25 (ok, no ache)
deadlift - 2x8x53 (been conservative & careful wit my deads all the while, payin off, not givin me any aches / regressing, so increased wt)

What i have learned so far .. don b too greedy, dun take on too much wt too fast & progress will come. Becoming a more patient man. Finalised my diet plan, aiming 2,500cal/day ie 41cal/kg. Nearly back up to my early rippetoe days, hungry for bodywt increase ! To shop for a few more things & thurs shld b the day my proper diet starts. Yeah !

time 1h13m

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Damn the food looks good! SO what's your weight now? Any progress in appearance?

Btw, I feel cardio can make u have an even bigger appetite! I've been doing some cardio lately, noticed some improvement in appetite. thumbup.gif
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The onion smel makes it more appetising smile.gif Too bad no movement in weight. Am trying to eat harder now, haha. . yah eat hard not workout hard. Eating is tough business. Hmm cardio ha.. i like swimmin but thinking abt it makes me tired ohohhhoo. C my tummy got behave or not, if it gets bigger mayb i'll have to start some cardio. Thx for the advice !


Added on April 14, 2009, 10:18 pmDIET
mng - damn yogurt stil frozen, 1tbp flaxseed, 10almond, 2banana, 0.5scoop nitro, 3scoop oat, 1.5scoop milk, probiotic, strawberry
tea - egg, 1slice cheese
lunch - noodles
preworkout - 3scoop oat, 2scoop milk, longjack
during - -
post - whey, glucose, 2tbp yogurt
dinner - same yesterday cos marinated 4d chick supply+vege except vege in soup today. shit couldn't finish vege till now. muz b my late lunch. indiscipline detected
supper - 0.5scoop nitro, 1scoop milk, 3scoop yoghurt, omega,


WORKOUT
chest flyes - 3x12x5 (inc. wt. so worried too heavy, but can do though left shoulder a tiny clicking sound)
bent row - 3x10x45
incline press - 3x12x33
chin - 11/7+5 (chinning not progressing well)

Time 55m

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Eh chest flyes isolation ler... For beginners like us better if we focus more on compound work. At least that's what I hear from the other forumers here anyway...
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I think chest flyes is a really good exercise. But it being the first exercise doesn't really suit me. Do compound first, then isolation later. I think it prevents injury also, cuz it works the shoulders too, and without warm up you could get injured easily. I do presses first, followed by flyes, supersetted with pushups.
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Eh chest flyes isolation ler... For beginners like us better if we focus more on compound work. At least that's what I hear from the other forumers here anyway...
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I think chest flyes is a really good exercise. But it being the first exercise doesn't really suit me. Do compound first, then isolation later. I think it prevents injury also, cuz it works the shoulders too, and without warm up you could get injured easily. I do presses first, followed by flyes, supersetted with pushups.
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Hi bros, thx for the heads up !

Actually what i really wanted to do were dips (heard so much abt its goodness) but can't do it at home, so turned to flyes instead cos it looks like simulating the sweeping/flapping movement, at least partially. Sum more i suspect i got stuck in a rut liao with bench press. See how, i might revert back to presses if i tire of it.

Ohoh.. yup john, i think ur right abt warm ups, cos usually my left shoulder aches only in 1st set eg in incline press / laterals. Wat i do now is jus some calisthenics b4 starting. Let me start with flyes 1st for time being ya cos i just can't wait to do it everytime, the freshness thing.. If the click persists, i'll switch it to inclines 1st. So far its the only exercise that got me smiling while doing it.. i love it haha.. .
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DIET
mng - shake
tea - egg
lunch - mixed rice
tea - sweet potato
preworkout - 1scoop milk, 3scoop oats, tongkatali
during - banana, guava
post - banana, guava, glucos, whey
dinner - chick breast frozen, went out for claypot chick rice, fish
supper - 1scoop milk, omega, yogurt

WORKOUT
squat - 3x10x50 (can do more more ! lazy bum !)
lateral raise - 3x12x5
deadlift - 2x8x53
military press - 3x10x25

Mixed up my exer sequence. Auto went to do squat instead of raises. First time i fin squats within 15m, but after that forgot the 1m rule & wasted time.

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WORKOUT

Days 1&4
lateral raise - 3x12x6
squat - 3x8x55 (fear of weighty squat, to increase wt)
military press - 3x11x25
deadlift - 2x6x65 (at last did sth over my bodyweight)

Days 2&5
incline press - 3x13x35
bent row - 3x7x48
chest flyes - 3x8x8
chin - 11, 10+2




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MAX OT

Day 1
leg extension - 20x65
leg curl - 3x10x30
front squat - 3x10x30

Day 2
bench press - 3x11x45
flye - 3x11x9.5
reverse wrist curl - 3x11x15

Day 3
deadlift - 2x5x80
row - 3x9x55
chin - 10,10,8

Day 4
lateral raise - 3x8x8.5
military press - 3x7x30

Day 5
tricep extension - 3x9x12
1handed skullcrusher - 3x10x8.5
tricep press - 3x6x30
wrist curl - 3x10x17

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QUOTE(swks26 @ Mar 28 2010, 09:22 PM)
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bro i started around ur weight as well, 58kg.. now at 61kg. I think your diet is pretty okay, u might wanna try gomad. smack at least 3 eggs for breakfast, and perhaps dont rely so much on shakes. oh and really bigger portions per meal, cuz eating multiple meals isnt your issue haha.

ive been training seriously since early feb, tbh only 1 mth+ of continuous training, took about 2 weeks off, went for a detox plan. 1 mth into my training i was at 60, then i went for detox and lost 2kg. now im at my 2nd week of training since after detox and entering my 3rd. around 61kg ish. Im a skinny dude too with a bit of belly fat, but I believe in the 'muscle burns off fat' thing, just trying to get stronger and build more muscles, loads of compound movement cuz we skinny dudes need them hehe.

I used to try to work up a workout plan, but there were too many parameters involved, too many exercises, what rep range, what weight to use.. I know Im a lazy guy and I'm allowing myself to lose out on the knowledge I can learn if I learn these up... but I couldnt stand being skinny anymore (tho I still am), so I stuck onto a 5x5 beginners str programme instead. Works so far for me and instead of learning up the proper form for so many exercises, I stuck to this and I am still learning the proper form for these basic comp exercises. Imagine if I continued on a split body part workout programme. Id die. I don have anyone spotting me currently, just making do wit wtv I can get.

IMO, when u reach a plateau too long, its time to re evaluate. For gaining weight, could be the diet or the workout plan. I believe you have been here earlier than I have and you have more experience than I do, but from one skinny guy to another, I just thought I shared my two cents. I may just hit my plateau soon. Time to re evaluate! biggrin.gif

Keep training bro!

EDIT: just saw your progress pics.. damn I have a long way to go.. you're not really that ecto after all dude hahah.. anyways I think rippetoe was pretty good on you, considered other 3x5 or 5x5? madcow,stronglifts..? just suggesting bro!

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Hi Chezz, thanks for reading, sharing yr thoughts and giving me your input. Its true that i need to do some hard-thinking about what i've been doing. Something's obviously not working - though i'm fitter than ever, i ave not achieved my prime objective of gaining more weight.

It would be presumptious to say i know the answers cos i would have done the correction, but its also an excuse on my part & lots of wasted effort cos i m aware there r things i m not taking seriously that ought to have been done, the top of the list of which is enough rest. I'm still stuck to the pc way past zz time. I still remember my rippetoe days when i sleep at 10.30 & wake up soooo refreshed in the morning that i just pop right out of bed like a wine cork. Instead, now i go back to sleep after waking up cos being so tired.

And .. and .. also god. Why la give us ecto bodies. We know we are somehow different when we see a meso's chest as wide as 2 heads but our chest can only fit in 1.3 heads haha..

Also got some mental handicaps i will ave to throw out of my mind, namely the phobia of getting a tummy. Having a tummy is what got me putting on some kgs so its time to add the size of my meals like last time and work on the tummy later. Ur right, eggs, everyone is talking abt them. I'm gonna have 6eggs everyday but definitely not all the yolks.

Also .. haha.. so many alsos, but at my age i got to be more careful with how much i eat. Well, to hell with that for the time being. I'll put in another year's stuffing my intestines and gain me some weight first. Some regrets here cos i ought to have been serious with weights earlier in my life instead of now when career&$ is whats on most ppl's mind my age, the cells r not as fresh & hormones dropping like an anchor. I'm waiting for my health test nxt week & if its clean, theres no more holding me back.

Anyway, to hell with all these rubbish messing up my mind.

I read your journal Chezz, congrats on your progress ! Got to say u have the enthusiasm & drive to do what u gotta do smile.gif I was gonna start on 5x5 but probably amend it to 4x8/10 & go for the burn cos i've been trying out 5x5 for the past week & i don't seem to get the buzz like when i was doing rippetoe. Anyway, thts just my experience, cos it worked for many others, different ppl different burgers.

We'll do what we can then right ? Ie WORK HARD, enuff REST & more FOOD !

To another year of no excuses, no surrender & more sweat ! Onwards to our journey !

 

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