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Movies 007 @ James Bond: Movies Discussion Thread, Bond 25: No Time To Die

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post Dec 25 2011, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Dec 25 2011, 01:24 PM)
For me Gerard Butler is bland. Stathom has a very cool aura around him but he isn't Bond. How about Tom Hardy? He probably looks a bit too young now but come the retirement of Craig he may just be up for it.
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Tom Hardy look too young..i remember a few years back in media said Orlando bloom cud be the one who will be a next bond. its really make me laugh. laugh.gif they shud find the real matured one.
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post Dec 25 2011, 09:30 PM

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to be 007...the guys needs to be handsome and charismatic
Jason Statham and Gerard Butler is good but they have some beard
true james bond dn't have beard and still very man, very charismatic
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post Dec 26 2011, 12:19 AM

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Joseph-Gordon Levitt as Bond...James Bond Jr.

If a reboot is imminent, why not change it all up. But Craig is set for a few more Bond films after Skyfall.






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post Dec 26 2011, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Dec 26 2011, 12:19 AM)
Joseph-Gordon Levitt as Bond...James Bond Jr.

If a reboot is imminent, why not change it all up. But Craig is set for a few more Bond films after Skyfall.
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Remember "George Lazenby"? Now imagine Joseph-Gordon Levitt as James Bond Jr.... what would be the reaction?
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post Dec 26 2011, 10:04 AM

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I Really like casino royale, but QOS was fail, totally blunder of confusion.

Pierce brosnon was a real bond to me, cause im a 90's kid
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post Dec 26 2011, 04:00 PM

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JGL doesn't have that Bond look, so he'll never cut it. Plus he's American isn't he?

Brosnan was a good Bond, but his type will never make it in today's cinema. Now people want a charismatic actor with a more brute edge as well. You can thank Jason Bourne for that. Next to Craig, Brosnan is a sissy.
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post Dec 26 2011, 05:32 PM

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There's a season for everything including actors who play the role of the famous spy (irony)... Brosnan is, in my opinion, the best bond ever but as mentioned before, he will never suit the current season of how action movies are being filmed, shaky camera, gritty and serious injuries, etc. Craig is the best, for this season, but his time will come to an end when a new type of action movies are filmed.

Statham, Butler, Levitt doesn't fit the bill, once again, in my opinion and who in the world actually think that Bloom fits the part?

Fassbender, at this point, seem favourable, only because of the Magneto character he played and how he (Fassbender) was protrayed in the recent x-men movie. Seriously, anyone here knew that he was also in 300? Not until he played Magneto, I assume. If you had only watch him in 300, you might have a second thought of him in the shoes of the spy who likes his martini to be shaken, not stirred.

Oh well, I'm more interested to see Ben Whishaw as Q in Skyfall than Craig in it. Haha.

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post Dec 27 2011, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Dec 26 2011, 04:00 PM)
JGL doesn't have that Bond look, so he'll never cut it. Plus he's American isn't he?

Brosnan was a good Bond, but his type will never make it in today's cinema. Now people want a charismatic actor with a more brute edge as well. You can thank Jason Bourne for that. Next to Craig, Brosnan is a sissy.
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i gotta agree, audience now want serious plot + with dark gritty tone like dark knight style tongue.gif

but when I think 007, i think of brosnan more. He is always cool, he flirts, and he gets the job done, and he always stay neat and tidy biggrin.gif
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post Dec 27 2011, 12:25 AM

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i prefer the latest bond where we can see he got license to kill for something,because he aint perfect 1 shot killed lame a$$ hero now but tougher than any other 007 agent.
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post Dec 27 2011, 08:47 PM

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agree that there have been different interpretations of bond by different actors.
while it can be said that the current actor and his portrayal fits with what sells these days (a'la bourne), then it can be said that bond has fallen victim to mass appeal (changing characters to appease fans of genre). the excuse which is perfectly fine is he is just starting to become the bond we all know.

and to compare above, sean connery really did define bond. his portrayal was the best bond to the majority. he defined bond and made him cool when there were no other characters like him at that time. so it can be said his take is original, a classic and is legendary.
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I agree with the statement above, to me the best Bond of all time is the one portrayed by Sean Connery with Daniel Craig come close at second as he's the totally different kind of Bond.

Sean Connery
Daniel Craig
Pierce Brosnan
Timothy Dahlton
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post Dec 27 2011, 11:57 PM

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how come people easily dismiss roger moore

he and connery are both the most iconic bond actors

daniel craig or brosnan doesn't even come close
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post Dec 28 2011, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(hirari @ Dec 27 2011, 11:57 PM)
how come people easily dismiss roger moore

he and connery are both the most iconic bond actors

daniel craig or brosnan doesn't even come close
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because despite playing James Bond in seven Bond films, he never ordered a vodka martini shaken not stirred and He never drove the most famous of all James Bond cars in a Bond film i.e. a 1964 silver birch Aston Martin DB5 or any other Aston Martin model. The DB5 was made famous by the Sean Connery. #truestory

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post Dec 28 2011, 12:01 PM

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granted sean connery was the first to popularize bond to what it is today. but the franchise longevity and ability to survive until now is because of roger moore

when he took on the role, bond franchise had lost some of its original charm and debonair. and had to compete with other action films at the time with stars like clint eastwood and steve mcqueen

moore's approach to the character may have been too light-hearted or comical compared to connery. but i say that is part of the charm and the appealing thing about moore's bond. and at that, he played it superbly and far better than connery

yes, connery did make classic flawless bond films, but then so did roger moore. the series owes him a lot and yet he is underrated by today's audience

i guess it's trendy to dismiss roger moore's bond on trivial matters. aston martins and martinis? give me a break
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QUOTE(hirari @ Dec 28 2011, 12:01 PM)
granted sean connery was the first to popularize bond to what it is today. but the franchise longevity and ability to survive until now is because of roger moore

when he took on the role, bond franchise had lost some of its original charm and debonair. and had to compete with other action films at the time with stars like clint eastwood and steve mcqueen

moore's approach to the character may have been too light-hearted or comical compared to connery. but i say that is part of the charm and the appealing thing about moore's bond. and at that, he played it superbly and far better than connery

yes, connery did make classic flawless bond films, but then so did roger moore. the series owes him a lot and yet he is underrated by today's audience

i guess it's trendy to dismiss roger moore's bond on trivial matters. aston martins and martinis? give me a break
Have you watched a Moore Bond movie lately?

Reasons why Moore is dismissed:
1) He cannot fight. He is not badass. He is nowhere near believable as a man of action. In For Your Eyes Only, he had this big fight scene at the end and he looks scared. And in most of the car/boat/ski/whatever chase scenes, they use so much green-screen that you simply cannot believe it's him in that scene.

2) He got old. He's the same age as Connery. It's probably the same reason why he can't do action scenes. Again, in FYEO, there was one part where he's running up a flight of stairs, and he's running so slowly. And in A View to a Kill, he had a love scene with Tanya Roberts which looked like old uncle having sex with young chiku.

3) He got fed up. You can tell from his performances that he doesn't like playing Bond. There's no enjoyment in his performance, not in the action scenes or even the love scenes. Even when he's seducing some hot chick (or more likely, some hot chick saja offering to sleep with him), he can barely muster up any enthusiasm.

4) His movies suck the most. Not his fault in this case, but this was the era in which Bond became a cartoon, and the movies became really really dumb.

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I agree. But to me, it's not his fault. It's the fact that it was the 80's. Everything from that era was queer. Some in a good way, others, like his Bond movies, were the opposite.
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post Dec 28 2011, 05:17 PM

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yep again, dismissing moore on trivial matters

if moore had failed, then dalton, brosnan or craig wouldn't have came into the picture afterwards

the moment bond hits the big screen, the character has become more of a wonderfully extravagant charade rather than the complex individual fleming depicted in the books

eventho fleming's bond was a professional killer, he killed out of choice. it was his profession and he was never the cold blooded thug presented by the latest films

bond also have snobbish and misogynist characteristics that were brought out so well by moore in the films with minimal effort

moore's films are fun, perhaps not as amiable now as it were during its era, but at the very least good natured. whether they are the worst bond films is arguable at best
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Dec 28 2011, 02:35 PM)
Have you watched a Moore Bond movie lately?

Reasons why Moore is dismissed:
1) He cannot fight. He is not badass. He is nowhere near believable as a man of action. In For Your Eyes Only, he had this big fight scene at the end and he looks scared. And in most of the car/boat/ski/whatever chase scenes, they use so much green-screen that you simply cannot believe it's him in that scene.

2) He got old. He's the same age as Connery. It's probably the same reason why he can't do action scenes. Again, in FYEO, there was one part where he's running up a flight of stairs, and he's running so slowly. And in A View to a Kill, he had a love scene with Tanya Roberts which looked like old uncle having sex with young chiku.

3) He got fed up. You can tell from his performances that he doesn't like playing Bond. There's no enjoyment in his performance, not in the action scenes or even the love scenes. Even when he's seducing some hot chick (or more likely, some hot chick saja offering to sleep with him), he can barely muster up any enthusiasm.

4) His movies suck the most. Not his fault in this case, but this was the era in which Bond became a cartoon, and the movies became really really dumb.
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ya..the storylines of this movies are the worst, followed closely by Timothy Dalton's.
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post Dec 29 2011, 07:27 AM

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sigh what happened to this world

timothy dalton is probably the only actor that gave the closest (or even the most real) interpretation of ian fleming's bond when he stepped into the role

if anything, it should've been him in goldeneye. heck, it was supposed to be him. it's a shame he turned it down
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A good actor is when the also have good roles/carry a movie before, during & after Bond.



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